Good news: Franken now leads by triple digits
posted at 2:56 pm on December 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
280 and counting. Not only is this fantastically depressing, it’s fantastically confusing: Franken’s picking up votes by the hundreds because the board’s currently examining ballots challenged by Coleman, i.e. ballots which most everyone thinks are Franken votes but which weren’t counted before because Coleman found some nit to pick about them. They’re not done with those, so expect the lead to grow further this afternoon. Game over for Norm? Nope — there are another 5,000 ballots to be reviewed next week that were initially challenged by one of the candidates and then unchallenged because the nit picked in each case was simply too stupid to waste everyone’s time on. How are those ballots expected to shake out? In Coleman’s favor — but probably not enough:
Specifically, I have Franken taking a lead of about 430 votes after all challenged ballots are processed this afternoon. This includes “blue folder” ballots flagged (mostly by the Coleman campaign) for special circumstances. The Canvassing Board ruled this morning that they will evaluate blue folder ballots based on the markings on the ballot only, and will not consider the special circumstances behind them, which are outside of its jurisdiction and instead the subject for a court challenge. As such, very few of these types of challenges are likely to be successful, at least in the immediate term. Coleman has significantly more blue folder challenges than Franken, and so this is likely to add to Franken’s total.
I then have Franken losing a net of about 385 ballots once withdrawn challenges are processed, as Franken has more withdrawn challenges that Coleman, most of which are Coleman ballots. This would leave him with a small surplus.
Net result predicted by Nate Silver: Franken by 40 to 70 votes. Except that it’s unclear whether Silver’s factoring in the 1,600 absentee ballots that were initially rejected by the board but now also have to be counted, per standards agreed upon by Coleman and Franken, according to the state supreme court’s ruling yesterday. Which means, notwithstanding Coleman’s team assuring us that all will be well in the end, we’re looking at total uncertainty until January at least.
Let’s find out just how many pessimists we have on this site. Poll prediction: Franken, 80/20.









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Hitler had only one ball
The other was in the kitchen wall
His mother cut it off when he was not very tall
Al Franken has two
But they are very small
And Chris Matthews has none at all
Cheshire Cat on December 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Did you get banned from DU or HuffPo?
I’ve never tried to post there and honestly the DU rules seems way overboard.
mycowardice on December 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Red Dawn in morning, Russkies take warning…
Anyway I liked John Milius’ The Wind and the Lion better (didn’t hurt to have Sean Connery star in it) and his screenplay for Apocalypse Now is still a stunner.
starfleet_dude on December 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM
You say this as if Minnesotans aren’t used to cold shoulders. Trust me, when you have to get up in the morning and it’s -20F with a 25mph north wind, enduring ill will is easy.
starfleet_dude on December 19, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I guess Sandy Berger has been hiding things again!
Princeps on December 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Dude!
High-five, fist bump!
The brotherhood of below zero rules!
Bruno Strozek on December 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM
No, they moderate every opposing viewpoint and then simply don’t post it. Really democratic. Can’t wait till you guy try to run the whole country like that.
What in the h*ll are you talking about, son? Does going out into left field with some nonsense that means nothing to anyone make you feel like you’ve made some highbrow remark?
hawkdriver on December 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Honestly, I’ve never prayed for God to actually curse someone. But, there is a first time for everything, I suppose.
Heaven help me, but Franken and Minnesota deserve to fail and fall apart. (And this comes from someone from the eternally cursed state of New York.)
Pope Linus on December 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I wasn’t aware that liking movies was “highbrow” for you hawkdriver. My sympathies.
starfleet_dude on December 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM
The 35W bridge fell down last year. Built a new one already.
starfleet_dude on December 19, 2008 at 5:18 PM
You’re a genius my man. Here you go in very small words.
What..did..it..have ..to..do..with..what..I..said?
hawkdriver on December 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Nuke the state of Minnesota. Nuke them back into the Stone Age.
Percy_Peabody on December 19, 2008 at 5:27 PM
No, really. What’s wrong with your state Ed?
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM
You mean the votes that were in someone’s car? That’s 32 votes. What other crap are you aware of?
YYZ on December 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM
By hook or crook, they (the dems) will steal this election.
Gothguy on December 19, 2008 at 6:19 PM
It just wasn’t enough that Obama won, was it? Now they just have to inflict Al Franken upon us?!
BRB, gotta go drink myself into a coma.
ZK on December 19, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Percy… before you nuke this state…. tell me where you live so I can visit you and smack you in the face multiple times as a Conservative in the state you wish to nuke. Do you want me here to be a subversive or what? Just what is your hard on with MN anyway??
MNDavenotPC on December 19, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Of course he will win. It’s rigged.
Alana on December 19, 2008 at 8:29 PM
THANK YOU!
Percy, do you think everyone who lives here is a certified card-carrying-Code-Pink-Fellow-Traveler-libfool? It might surprise you that not everyone here is. Believe me, living in the Twin Cities is no picnic for conservatives – its like living in New York, but without the Democratic gov who loves taxing everything in sight.
Blue-eyed Infidel on December 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM
This is the third go round for counting the votes, isn’t it? I guess three is the charm for the clown.
jbh45 on December 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM
to those here who wish grave harm on the state of MN — STFU.
equally, to those 10,000 laker posters here — y’all look REAL BAD right about now, and you’ll look MUCH WORSE if al indeed walks away with this. one would hope it would energize the right-center organizations in MN to ensure something like this doesn’t happen again, but to piss away 700 votes, the majority of which appear to have occured under rather suspicious circumstances, speaks pretty ill of yer s.o.s. and the election apparatus …
/jmo of course …
Buckaroo on December 19, 2008 at 9:02 PM
No surprise here. The old adage applies: if you torture the data long enough it will confess to anything.
Just keep counting those ballots until you come out on top. Yet another trick the leftists in the Dem Party learned from the other Marxist tyrants around the world.
Harpazo on December 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
+1
Harpazo on December 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
“Harpazo on December 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM”
thx., but i would much rather see norm and co. get their crap together, get back to a 200 or so vote lead with the remaining challenges, and get the canvassing board to call this quits before it becomes an even larger farce …
/chances of that happening? sadly, rather slim …
Buckaroo on December 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM
So what’s the better at this point on it going all the way to the US Supreme Court. (Wonder what Justice Kennedy will say because come on, the way the court is now the law is whatever Kennedy says it is.)
Dave_d on December 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I’m certain that, after Franken’s cronies finish ensuring that “hanging-chads” are counted, they’ll go after the “un-punched chads”.
After all, if someone didn’t actually “vote” for Franken, we all know that they “intended-to-vote” for him.
Right?
realitycheck on December 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM
http://www.secstateproject.org/
Mark Ritchie is part of this.
They’ve been planning this year for the last seven years.
They will get away with it because
people like all of you do not listen to people like me.
Let me know when you are tired of losing.
TimLenox on December 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
err, I meant “What’s the betting at this point…” (No way Franken is stopping at anything less and Coleman wouldn’t either if he has any sense.)
Dave_d on December 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
For the record (and the guy who just called my cell phone)
I was NOT saying that you should call me when you are tired of losing and ask me what strategy we need to win.
I simply meant that the people in our party get obsessed and with trivia on the other side of the aisle and distracted from what is really going on.
We need to unite in strength because they are already united with game plans and strategy planned out on a massive scale and we need to get a clue.
No, sir, whoever called me, we are NOT going to kill Democrats. We do not advocate violence against our fellow citizens. We do not need, want, or promote killing our political enemies.
You either
are a Democrat who has a warped view of Republicans or
a warped Republican who gives Republicans a bad name.
Either way, calling someone’s cell phone to promote mass murder is not going to endear you to anyone or solve anything.
TimLenox on December 20, 2008 at 2:54 AM
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” attributed to Josef Stalin, but that is debateable. Still, it’s insightful.
Red State State of Mind on December 20, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Even if you’re a conservative, if you live in Minnesota, you’re part of the problem. The state still needs to be nuked back into the Stone Age. But I suppose we could give conservatives 24 hours to get the hell out before the missiles fly.
Percy_Peabody on December 20, 2008 at 10:17 AM
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