Alaska Senate poll: Palin 55, Murkowski 31
posted at 6:31 pm on December 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
Via the Standard. The bad news? It’s a dKos poll. The good news? Kos’s pollster ain’t half bad.
Good thing for Murkowski that she and Palin aren’t rivals, aside from the occasional preemptive declaration of war.
Palin would crush Daddy’s Little Girl in a primary. Remember, Lisa Murkowski was appointed to the seat by her father when he was elected to his ill-fated term as governor. Palin’s successful primary challenge to father Murkowski was aided in great part by the backlash to that nepotism. The voters passed a ballot initiative stripping the governor of the power to make such appointments in the future. So given a credible Republican challenger, Murkowski melts.
Since Palin vanquished Murkowski’s father, there would be some poetry to also taking out his daughter, but I suspect Murkowski would be vulnerable to other top Republicans. I’d guess at this point that even if Palin passes on the Senate, Murkowski will have to fight for her party’s nomination.
She wins in a waltz in the general election too, of course. I’ve made the case before why, contrary to popular wisdom, it could be a good move for her, but it makes more sense if she’s planning to skip the presidential race in 2012 and build her national cred for a run four years later instead of trying to bounce from governor to Senator to president in the span of two years. Surprisingly enough, we haven’t polled this one yet. Have at it.
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new picture!
she beat your daddy and she would beat you too
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 6:35 PM
The only reason Murkowski is so high is because Alaskans recognize the name.
jimmy the notable on December 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM
No point in wasting her in the Senate. That’s a lost cause anyway, and belonging to the same club as Franken and Caroline Kennedy doesn’t do much for her resume. Let her season and ripen, then see where we are in 2016. Can she only serve 2 terms as Guv?
a capella on December 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Why is Kos even polling this? To try to egg Palin into running?
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Falling oil prices and Alaskans’ payment next year. Let’s see how popular she is then.
lorien1973 on December 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM
2010/12 cannot come fast enough.
Any predictions as to what the political landscape will look like then?
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Well, there’s always:
Remain governor in 2010
Challenge Begich in 2014
Run in 2016, or even 2020
DaveO on December 19, 2008 at 6:43 PM
They are terrified of her and likely scared shi*less that she will win.
Frankly, I’d love to see the donks now make the argument she is somehow underqualified to be a Senator given “sweet Caroline”…
sven10077 on December 19, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Young defeated Parnell for the nomination by 0.28%. This polls gives Young — not even sworn in for his next term — a 6% advantage for the primary in 2 years. A month later gives him a 5.8% gain?
amerpundit on December 19, 2008 at 6:45 PM
She’ll have like 10 kids by then.
And Piper will almost be ready for office by then, too :P
I don’t think she is running though, for a national office, ever again. I called it after the election and I’m sticking to it.
lorien1973 on December 19, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Will Obama support “change” in 2012?
artist on December 19, 2008 at 6:46 PM
I’m curious lorien…is there any politician you do approve of?
I think the only way she can win is if she turns the media’s visceral hatred of her into a positive. She needs to humiliate them, somehow.
jimmy the notable on December 19, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Uh Oh! A Saracuda thread
Waiting for the thread to be jacked by trolls in 5,4,3,2,1,…..
HornetSting on December 19, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Palin is young and smart and in no hurry. She will not run for president in 2012. She will be Romney’s vp for 8 years and then president for 8 years.
peacenprosperity on December 19, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Kos poll,…
Why?
Palin/Nugent 2012.
christene on December 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM
She won’t run in 2012… She’s running in 2016.!
An Era of Hate on December 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Politicians, at best, are tolerable. So, do I approve of any? Not really.
Palin is more tolerable than others. But whatcha want? Me to jump through hoops over a poll in Dec 2008 about a 2010 or 2012 election?
I’d rather make with the funny!
And, yep, I’ll stick to my prediction that she’ll never run for a national public office again.
lorien1973 on December 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM
She put money away for that contingency. She’ll look even better next year to Alaskans.
Spirit of 1776 on December 19, 2008 at 6:54 PM
With newspaper subscriptions withering and Big 3 News TV losing viewer, by 2012 a new media might dominate.
Like… like…. the blogosphere!!! maybe….
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I’ve got no problem with that. These days, there’s something suspicious about anybody who would want to go into politics. I’m not exactly jumping through hoops over anything either…I’ve got no faith that anybody elected will ever remotely cater to the things that I care about (Keeping the amount of money the federal government spends over four years the same would completely shock me), so even if Palin is some kind of savior for us, there’s no way the rest of the crooks would ever let her do anything meaningful anyway.
jimmy the notable on December 19, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Awwww, but you’ll miss all the fun….
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Senators are never very good presidents, nor do they win often. Keep her in the governor’s seat for now.
MadisonConservative on December 19, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Sarah will run in 2012 because Obama will be a disaster with the help of congress and senate democrats.
Not to mention there must be some corruptive activities in and other things in Obama’s closet that might come out. Chicago is not a clean city.
Also, conservatives stayed home this election season. 2010 and 2012 might change things if republicans find their conservative ways.
jencab on December 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Governors makes better president candidate then Senator. If Republicans have a chance they should pick a governor over senator even if Sarah is a Senator who is running for president. So Sarah should keep the governor job because that is the only way Republicans win over dems. Senators DO NOT WIN, Governors DO. Just ask Dole, McCain, Kerry. Ya BO won this year only because OUR PARTY WAS STUPID and nominated a SENATOR.
BroncosRock on December 19, 2008 at 7:01 PM
How badly do you think the Democrats will screw this county by 2010…………….?
……………………… If Palin wants it, it’s hers for the talking in 2012.
Seven Percent Solution on December 19, 2008 at 7:01 PM
I only say she should run in 2016 because Obama might be unbeatable at that time and the Governor needs to fix her public image.
An Era of Hate on December 19, 2008 at 7:04 PM
TGIF!
Pass the tequila, Kini. Cheers.
HornetSting on December 19, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Wait a minute,its a dKos poll,but the pollster ain’t
half bad,on that alone,me thinks thats awfully strange!
Lets see,typically,a Kos poll is crap,and a CNN poll would
be sh#t!
—————————————-
This is truly politically perplexing,umm,I think,SarahCuda
will run in 2012,thats if theres anything left,after Obama
runs America into the ground and complete’s all the ‘Changes’!
canopfor on December 19, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Americans like Republican governors … our last senator elected President was Harding
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Remember this gem of a quote?
Could be 2018 by Obama’s understanding of the Executive Branch.
The first order of business is to never read any of Kathleen Parkers opinions.
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
WARNING,EARLYWARNING TROLL RADAR
on U.S.S Hot Air is detecting a
gaggle of trolls inbound,*general quarters*,
man your Troll stations!A Hem,He he:)(a bit of Sarc!)>
canopfor on December 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Oh crap,I’m not to pc,woman up your Troll stations as well,
apologizes to the lady’s of H/A:)
canopfor on December 19, 2008 at 7:13 PM
LOL Nice :)
Allah is more in love with Palin then he lets on me thinks…
Dritanian on December 19, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Look at how much they did in the past two years! Now they were elected to more control in congress and the senate, as well as the presidency. They are really going to screw things up badly.
Obama has no clue what he is doing and will just be sitting next to his wife in fashion runway shows, since she is the next “fashion icon.” (If people like dressing up like floral upholstery.)
Yes, he’ll be very busy e-mailing Scarlett Johansson and speaking with other celebrities such as Ludacris and Jay-Z.
jencab on December 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM
I lift my hearty glass of Christmas grog to you both!!!
I think Palin will stick to her values and will be in the running come 2012. She was just paired with a senator that was well beyond his expiration date.
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Ah say, ah said ah says, that woman gives me the vapors.
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 7:19 PM
She can be more effective asa governor. Her ideas (and by extension ours) would die in the Senate given the democrat majority.
SouthernGent on December 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Whatever Sarah does, I will donate money to. Her ideas are my ideas.
But if crap really hits the fan and “The One” goes crazy in the WH, I think all Conservatives should move to Alaska and make it the last frontier.
Mercy4Me on December 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Trying…… not…… to……… go……….there!………..
Kini on December 19, 2008 at 7:21 PM
That’s Future Senator Dudette to you!
Blake on December 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Remember this gem of a quote?
Kini on Dec 19,2008 at 7:10PM.
Kini: Eight to ten years!
This will be like Clinton,at 3:00AM,while America sleeps,
the Washington Post,or New York times,comes out the next day
reporting that Hopey has elected himself 10 more years for
the good of the country!
And,btw,if President Bush,misspoke and said that,the moon
bats would’ve gone apesh#t,and the BDS would have them at
the cliff,screaming the words ‘dictator’!:)
canopfor on December 19, 2008 at 7:28 PM
You’d e-mail scarlett as well if you had married aunt esther…
sven10077 on December 19, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Best choice IMO. Obambi picked a bunch of Clinton and Bush retreads for his government so he’s going to be just as much of a political cypher as he’s always been. Don’t expect any screwups big enough to cost him reelection: not with the Bush/Clinton training wheels on.
Plus, leaving her as governor, while objectively better “executive” experience, does nothing for her national presence. If all of you are serious about Palin already being qualified to be VP, then the near future for her should be Public Relations and convincing everyone else of that. It’s easier to do that as a pork-buster/deficit-warrior/corruption-hunter in the Senate.
Lehosh on December 19, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Now that’s change I can believe in. Dead to Fedzilla!
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Gov. Palin, bless her heart, is so not ready to run for POTUS. 2012 should not be a consideration for that office. My best argument to naysayers was “Look at McCain’s mom. He’s going to make it through the term.”
I saw her speak. She’s fabulous. Amazing. She has no national record to speak of. 2016 is the earliest she should seek the office, regardless of how vulnerable the incumbent appears in 2012.
EconomicNeocon on December 19, 2008 at 7:52 PM
After seeing this picture, the woman has no fear.
My thoughts- run for governor again in 2010, and when she terms out in 2014- run for Begich’s seat in the senate and President in 2016
kcarpenter on December 19, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Psst…No national record???
Neither did Ronald Reagan…
In fact, most Americans prefer Governors over Senators. History bares this out.
kcarpenter on December 19, 2008 at 8:00 PM
man she just SMASHES murkowski in basically every category after looking at those cross-tabs. I always take a daily kooks poll with a grain of salt, but I bet this is probably how the race would probably look.
ousoonerfan15 on December 19, 2008 at 8:05 PM
GW Bush, Gov. Texas
WJ Clinton, Gov. Arkansas
RW Reagan, Gov. California
History speaks!
hockey2k5 on December 19, 2008 at 8:08 PM
AP, you wrote a ‘Cuda thread and didn’t say “the ‘Cuda?” Surely, you could have worked it in somehow. I know you love to say “the ‘Cuda.”
I love that thubmnail BTW. It is so – I don’t know – classic American patriot. We love you Sarah!
Mr_Magoo on December 19, 2008 at 8:10 PM
This is hardly a shocker. She is well loved in Alaska. They’d pick her over just about any politician. I offer as evidence of this the fact that the left are trying to get that idiot Monegan of Troopergate fame to run against her if she decides to seek re-election in 2010.
Running that stooge against her is basically a declaration that they don’t think anyone could beat her.
I have this strange feeling that if she were to run for the presidency, she would draw upon a reserve of new first time voters. The sort who are not interested in politics and don’t vote, but will be drawn to her message. This is how she won all of her previous races.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I don’t know about 2016. Start with assuming that Obama completely alienates his base, as he appears to be determined to do, and taxes us into near-oblivion, and we win by a landslide in 2012. Then either we get a winner, and she’s to supportive to compete — or we get a real lemon, and the voters are ready for another Dem in four years.
I like the idea of her getting a little DC “cred” (even though it’s far less actual cred than being a governor), but I’d prefer seeing her smiling face again in 2012 more.
Tanya on December 19, 2008 at 8:12 PM
to = too
Tanya on December 19, 2008 at 8:13 PM
I lift my hearty glass of Christmas grog to you both!!!
Kini on Dec 19,2008 at 7:17PM.
Kini: And a hearty Great White Northern Ontario Christmas
toast right back at ya,EH!:):):):)
canopfor on December 19, 2008 at 8:18 PM
and our current president’s national record is ?
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 8:18 PM
current “president-elect” even
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM
I used to think his use of “the ‘Cuda” was a show of endearment too. He never uses it anymore, and I think it’s because he no longer likes her.
It’s sad. He seems much snarkier lately. I think we should raise money to send him on an Alaskan cruise this summer. Give him some ‘Cuda face time. Let him do a Hot Air interview with the Guv. He’ll come back happy and smiling with a fridge full of moose hotdogs and Alaska Amber.
Come on, folks. Everybody give $20 to the Allah Alaska cruise fund.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Red State State of Mind on December 19, 2008 at 8:20 PM
I really question if she really wants to be a Senator. She still has two young kids who wouldn’t see her much if she was in Washington 4 or 5 days a week. Who knows though. I am one who prefers she stays in Alaska and stays as Governor for at least 2 more years.
ousoonerfan15 on December 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Caribou Barbie and The Nuge in 2012.
Not sure why, but I am still grinning just thinking about how fun that would be.
paragon27x on December 19, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Being the Senator from Alaska is all about bringing home the bacon. A junior Senator is a lousy position. She won’t be in charge of any committees. She’ll be lower on the totem pole than even “Senator Franken” (Saints preserve us! I’m using the name in casual conversation because I’m trying to inoculate myself in case it actually happens).
It’s much better to remain governor. She doesn’t need to go to Washington to stay in the national spotlight. She’s in the national spotlight wherever she is. She’s hardly left Alaska since the election and yet she’s still an object of interest.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
You’re absolutely right. And how many of our great Presidents came from the Senate, anyway? As mentioned earlier in the thread, good Governors are oftentimes* well suited to become Presidents because they understand how to accomplish goals as Executives.
* Void in Georgia
Red State State of Mind on December 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. I think it would be a big mistake to make a move for a Senate seat. Not that she couldn’t handle herself, but right now the Senate is controlled by the dems. If she where successful she would become a huge target for the dems to try and damage politically. They are already trying as you well know; Turkey gate; now they are trying to make a race scandal out the e-mails being passed around like in any office. So, I think it would be a better political choice to remain Governor and gain more executive experience and distance herself dem controlled political machine. We all know she already faces an uphill battle for 2012 nomination and will need to remain free of as many scandals as possible.
lwssdd on December 19, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Man, AP is starting to cost me a lot of money. First the campaign button for his Senate run and now a cruise. He better bring me back a beer from Alaska.
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Hit the nail on the head!
paragon27x on December 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM
I’ll see yur Dude and raise ya..
DUDE!
normsrevenge on December 19, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Only if we’re lucky. The world could use a few more cute Palin kids. And Piper’s going to be a natural at politics, I’m predicting.
But leave it to a liberal to make having children sound so EEEEEEVIIIILLL.
Gina on December 19, 2008 at 8:44 PM
This is interesting, but not surprising: two reporters that traveled with Palin are writing a book about it. Here’s Conroy’s blog from the trail, and here’s Walshe’s (You have to scroll through each page to find her posts. She didn’t have a separate page from all the other Fox producers – that I could find anyway.).
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 8:47 PM
It’s for the good of the entire Hot Air community. He was happier when he was showing the ‘Cuda more love. Happy AP = Happy HA.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Cool! Can’t wait to read it. Ever since I saw that documentary “Journeys with George” back in 2001, I’ve felt that being a campaign reporter has got to be one of the coolest jobs evah (at least for a political junkie).
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 8:55 PM
I get the impression from reading their blog entries that they both liked Palin, at least on a personal level, by the end of the campaign. So, while I think they’ll probably dish a little campaign dirt, overall I think they’ll give her a fair shake.
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 9:01 PM
to echo others, the senate is POISON for her. she gains NOTHING by going there for 1 year, 2, 12, 20, more, less or in between!
i would defer to alaskans — if she were to run for re-election in ’10, would y’all be ok with her ramping up for a ’12 prez run pretty much 6 mo. after inauguration? if so, then she should go for it …
Buckaroo on December 19, 2008 at 9:22 PM
“Red State State of Mind on December 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM”
void in AR too!
/jus’ sayin’ …
:-)
Buckaroo on December 19, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Senate in 2010 followed by a presidential run in 2016.
I fail to see how a woman who slashed her way through corrupt Alaskan politics, mostly against her own party, would suddenly become tainted in Washington. There is no way that the Senate would change peoples perceptions in regards to most viewing her as a outsider.
Among that band of idiots in the Senate, Palin would stand out. The Republicans have some great prospects in the House but not so much in the Senate (aside from DeMint).
It’s similar to the logic behind putting Caroline in the Senate except Palin is qualified and isn’t boring. She would be able to select any given issue and make it a big deal.
V15J on December 19, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Because – as I have been saying for lo these past 4 months – her support among Dems far surpasses that of the palin fanboys’.
benny shakar on December 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I hope she does run at some time. Cuda rules! I read today that her Daughter’s fiance’s mother was busted for drugs! So, the media might make that a big deal.
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Because – as I have been saying for lo these past 4 months – her support among Dems far surpasses that of the palin fanboys’.
benny shakar on December 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM
A TROLL has arrived. Thought I smelled Troll……..
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Dude, you got a lot of work to do if you want to push this thing to 200 comments.
Oh, that’s right – you’re Benny freaking Shakar, the pu**y ninja troll who posts and then goes and self-flagellates for three hours.
Can we get some real trolls in here? Where’s alphie? At least she had some character.
fiatboomer on December 19, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Or PopTech…remember, the Ron Paul supporter for Romney with the fake Palin resume that had beauty pageants as professional experience? Haven’t see PopTech for a while.
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Noneya was good for a few laughs too. And lowandslow was a lot of fun.
benny, you wankar. Your trollery is getting pathetic. Try harder, damn it.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
We need to keep this in mind the next time someone complains about trolls. Trolls are fun. Perhaps we should start a HuffPost/Hot Air exchange program. We’ll send joey and meltenn over there a few days out of the week, and they can send some more of benny and noneya’s friends over here.
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Noneya was the anti-religious bigot, right? I remember that lowandslow is the one who says Palin is anti-free enterprise.
Yeah, the troll quality has been dropping off. We need better sparring partners, though lowandslow did force me to up my game by actually reading up on the gas pipeline.
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
ramrocks on December 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
A few days ago, Noneya said something that was rather pleasant!
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Sarah should be a Grand Mother this weekend. That is cool being a grandmother. I love my grand babies.
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Can I have some Jack waiting on me when I get back?
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM
She’ll be the first official GMILF!
Mr_Magoo on December 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I have a poll up … I would greatly appreciate your input
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Yeah, the Trig Truthers are sweating that, since it’s only eight months since Bristol’s “first pregnancy”. They have a fallback position, though – some of them have been saying that Bristol faked this pregnancy, and they’re stealing or buying a baby from somewhere. It might have been arranged at the Wasilla Bible Church and the fire was staged to destroy records of the transaction.
Others have already been saying that Willow was actually Trig’s mom, not Bristol.
Anyway, prayers and best wishes to Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston for an easy birth and a healthy child (I guess it’s supposed to be a boy, according to an interview with Chuck Heath.)
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
By the way, I think the 31% for Murkowski are the people who don’t want Sarah to leave Alaska.
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I’m surprised they haven’t brought up Track yet. I’m sure that’ll come. If I were them, I’d put a birth announcement in the Wasilla paper and nothing else. Try to give the kids as much privacy as possible basically. And +1 on the good wishes to all of them.
meltenn on December 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Yeah, the Trig Truthers are sweating that, since it’s only eight months since Bristol’s “first pregnancy”. They have a fallback position, though – some of them have been saying that Bristol faked this pregnancy, and they’re stealing or buying a baby from somewhere. It might have been arranged at the Wasilla Bible Church and the fire was staged to destroy records of the transaction.
Others have already been saying that Willow was actually Trig’s mom, not Bristol.
Anyway, prayers and best wishes to Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston for an easy birth and a healthy child (I guess it’s supposed to be a boy, according to an interview with Chuck Heath.)
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
They won’t stop will they? Cannot believe how people are to busy butting in other lives. They cannot live theirs. That is a shame!
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
sarah will be doing double-duty as grandmother while levi’s mom is in the chokey for possession of narcotics with intent to distribute. great environment for a kid.
benny shakar on December 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM
They have – plenty of incest allegations at the main Trig Truther site. The things they say over there will curl your hair. I only look at it once in a while to see what the current memes are amongst the PDS crowd.
Back on the Senate topic – I’m concerned that she couldn’t afford it. Remember the stories about Congressmen sleeping in their offices because they couldn’t afford a place in D.C.? I remember Norm Coleman was living in a tiny room in someone else’s apartment, for God’s sake. They definitely couldn’t afford a place for the family – would she want to spend so much time away from them? That’s why so many Senators are rich before they get there.
Jim62sch on December 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
i heard that she was Obama’s crack dealer when he was racking up all of those “achievements” in college … you know, the ones you told us about …
joey24007 on December 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
sarah will be doing double-duty as grandmother while levi’s mom is in the chokey for possession of narcotics with intent to distribute. great environment for a kid.
benny shakar on December 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Wow Benny, fast hand job! Getting faster eh? If you noticed, and sure you didn’t. Since you are a Obamabot. Levi’s mom was never in the picture! I doubt that Sarah, Her daughter would allow that. But, you wouldn’t know. It is obvious you don’t know what family is.
sheebe on December 19, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Why are you being so negative about the situation? You came out find didn’t you? So I assume the Governor’s grandson will be fine as well….
An Era of Hate on December 19, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Run for reelection as governor in 2010 and run for Begich’s Senate seat in 2014. You can still run as a VP or maybe P in 2016.
KW64 on December 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Just because I can whoop some doesn’t mean I do it.
Sarah already knows that she can easily beat Lisa.
But, she also knows that she should stay a governor and come from outside to conquer Washington ala William 1066.
Sapwolf on December 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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An Era of Hate on December 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
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