Ultimate heart-ache: Michelle dumps on atheists
posted at 1:57 pm on December 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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But affectionately. Sort of. Except for her suggestion that believers treat them like “trolls.” Heh.
I think she’s referring specifically to the sort of jackassery going on at the capitol in Washington, of which neither I nor the other conservative atheist/agnostics I read are fans. But just in case not, I take comfort in knowing that I’ll always have Ayaan.
Exit question: Um, what exactly is Gretchen saying here? Christianity’s going to disappear unless we … take away atheists’ First Amendment rights?
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It’ll never go out of fashion.
Hahaha. It pays the bills I suppose. More comment equals more advertising. I think AP would probably avoid religious debates if they were not necessary. There are worse ways to make a living.
aengus on December 18, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Khan almost conquered europe but couldn’t…but he would have been far too late had not Charles martel defeated the muslim hordes by using the greek phalanx…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:03 PM
If I had a nickel for every time I had that comeback I could retire before thirty.
Actually God said nothing. He’s not very talkative.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:03 PM
now I know you’re nuts.
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:04 PM
High speed internet with a static IP address: ~ $50/month
AllahPundit’s monthly salary: Six cases of cheap beer and 30 rolls of quarters.
Michelle Malkin dumping on atheists: Priceless.
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Writes one of the “few others.”
Count to 10 on December 18, 2008 at 10:05 PM
this is an interesting point….yes christianity has lost its nerve…and most of what you see as ‘christian’ is probably not…but a version of laodicea…the backsliding church…
I find it interesting that the Bible talks about the Beast, the anti-christ…a very scary, and impressive man…who beheads those who oppose him…things that make you go hmmmmm…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Indeed.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:06 PM
I was not out of line for sharply rebuking ColtsFan. He was not being honest in the way that he approached me. It was deceptive. One thing that I have learned in my years of serving the Lord, is if someone is doing a great work for God, someone else will accuse him of doing wrong. I will defend my brothers and sisters in Christ.
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 10:06 PM
considering the source…thanks!
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Agreed.
Anna on December 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM
The three stooges, I calls ‘em.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Fanatics are the problem.
If your faith were so deep, you would exude such. Wouldn’t you? Share the peace you own? ’shine the light’?
I’m thinking you would.
bridgetown on December 18, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I haven’t looked at it, but I would suggest reading the Wikipedia article on David Hume followed by reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogues_concerning_Natural_Religion
If that’s not enough, you may want to look up other summaries of his argument in Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion at your local library. You could even read the book. I did at age 17 and thought it was quite good.
BTW, the argument has been given a more modern probabilistic facelift since Hume. If you are really wedded to arguing it, you should probably go that route.
I argue that the Judaism is the truth because I have experienced it to be truth. It’s not much in the way to convince anyone else, but Judaism doesn’t demand we convert other people. Still, I do think it’s really cool when people do convert.
thuja on December 18, 2008 at 10:12 PM
but if stooges make you look stupid…what does that make you??
but you don’t need any help to look foolish..thats easy to tell…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Coming from you, I thank you for your reassuring me of my sanity.
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:13 PM
but you’re making truth out to be based upon your experience, not objective truth. are you saying your truth is not my truth?
truth is truth.
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
It has been a looooong time since anybody heard from God; at least anybody who isn’t in a padded cell. Paul claims to have actually been visited by Jesus, and the only reason anybody believes Paul is because it is in the Bible. It’s a good thing the story wasn’t published in the “Weekly World News” first.
It is odd that God was very busy and active 4000 years ago, but he has been silent for the last 2000. Retirement?
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
if thats what you want to call it…sure…keep telling yourself that…
you are good at lies!
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Not backbone, but grip on the state. In countries where the religion runs things it is the state like many Islamic states. In other countries the state is the state and religions like Islam and Christianity are weakened. Judaism is the religion of exile, so in many cases where the state is the state it still supercedes the state and actually created its own state where Jews worldwide migrate. Religion and the State are both in the same business, forcing nomos, the church and state balance just determines the winning tyranny.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM
and Israel just happened to become a nation again after 2,500 years or so…just like God said it would in Ezekiel…
He’s talking, and moving, you just can’t hear or see…but someday you will….to your horror…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I have nothing against Mr. Hovind who I have a lot of respect for after you introduced me to his Youtube videos. However I think you jumped the gun a little in this case.
ColtsFan may have been incorrect or misinformed but that is not the same thing as being pure evil. On the exact same thread you were complaining about the negative tone and harsh words of some of the HA commentators concerning Mike Huckabee.
By your own standards of decorum you should be very discriminating before labelling a good guy like my friend as “Satan”. The virtue of temperance is supposed to extend to all aspects of life.
aengus on December 18, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I more than willing to admit our debt to Charles Martel. I just wish the West would reject the muslim propaganda view of Genghis Khan. For the first century after Khan’s death, “Christendom” had a favorable view of Khan and “Christendom” was right.
thuja on December 18, 2008 at 10:18 PM
My personal favorite:
“It was subtle of God to learn Greek when he wished to become an author—and not to learn it better.”
Nietzsche
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Feel the love!
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Truth is in the torah.
As well as in the new testament.
As a ‘christian’..hmm..don’t even like to define myself as such these days…..I absolutely agree. There is absolute truth in Judaism. You cannot deny it as a christian.
Jesus did not do so. He just renewed the covenant.
bridgetown on December 18, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Jesus said if we look at a woman and lust after her, we commit adultery with her in our heart. You ever done that? You ever looked at a woman or man with lust?
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 10:19 PM
When the loony call you crazy, you can breathe a sigh of relief.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:19 PM
yeah its really sad the way the west swallows the muslim line…like there was a ‘golden age’ of islam…while they were butchering people wholesale…or they created algebra, which they stole from the hindus..while they were slaughtering them….
the ‘religion of peace’ its disgusting.
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:20 PM
we’ll see who has the last laugh sonny.
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Well, I guess that makes United Nations and Harry Truman instruments of God. It did not “just happen.”
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I wouldn’t bother to pursue it too much further. The fact that the guy bookmarked our conversation, reproduced and collated it, and regularly keeps it in mind indicates that he is in desperate need of a sex life, and if he can extract one from a couple of people exchanging innuendo for the sake of humor on the comments section of a political blog…well, you gotta feel sorry for him, and just leave him to it.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
absolutely. I quote the OT probably more than the NT…and I love His people Israel…they are the olive tree, we are the wild branches grafted in…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Pure evil
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
absolutely true…just as nebuchednezzar found out the hard way…the Lord places whom He will on the throne, and moves the nations as He will…
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Try zero.
Who would the partly evolved dog marry anyway
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 10:24 PM
and as He foretold, iran is the primary enemy of Israel…and we wait for the day when the war that Ezekiel prophecied happens…does anyone doubt today that Iran will attack israel???
right4life on December 18, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Yes I have in my life, but I’ve given it up.
Look I don’t want to get into a long debate over this. My point was just that its hard to look at someone with lust when all you’re looking at is a textual pseudonym.
aengus on December 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I thought he got all his ideas from the gays.
SouthernDem on December 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM
You seriously don’t understand physics, do you.
What is the highest level you studied? Did you get to QM?
Count to 10 on December 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Nah. Remember, they were his followers. They got their ideas from him.
Count to 10 on December 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM
I thought Ole Schickelgruber got his ideas from Islam.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:30 PM
If its true what they say that the past is another country then I guess our leaders are happy to let Muslims immigrate there.
aengus on December 18, 2008 at 10:31 PM
How about a pen? I wonder how long it would take a pen to evolve? Let’s see. We’d need an ink supply and a container to hold it. It would be handy to have clicker or a cap on the pen so we wouldn’t stain our clothes with it all the time. It would also need to be in a shape and weight that is easy to hold. If it, uh, ended up weighing a pound, we wouldn’t likely use it that often. If it was shaped like a triangle or something else, it would be difficult to hold. It seems there are so many things to remember in planning a simple pen. Somebody must have put some pretty clever planning into it.
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 10:32 PM
*grins*
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
A nuclear reaction is a random dispersal of neutrons. That randomness can make electricity and/or end a war.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Are you a Hagee-ite? You rhetoric sounds like my sunday funnies. It’s a shame he has brainwashed Randy Travis, I think he’s a good person.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I can’t believe that people still quote Nietzsche. He was, after all, the philospher of the Nazis. He died in an insane asylum. Not exactly a role model, if you ask me. Collie, do YOU have a favorite Nietzsche quote?
My collie says:
Anyone care to explain what Nietzshe was talking about?
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM
This is making my night. It’s like watching a cat chase a flashlight beam on a wall. Math and science are re-defined before our very eyes.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM
You haven’t scored a single point yet with this line of reasoning. Pens are inanimate objects that can’t evolve because they don’t reproduce. All they can do once created is fulfill their purpose, age, be thrown away and erode away with time. You’re not even comparing apples with oranges; more like apples with obsidian.
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:37 PM
As in cannibalism.
Or maybe a bad zombie flick.
Count to 10 on December 18, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Let’s, for the sake of discussion, assume that Esthier IS a whore – again, just for the sake of discussion. What is the point in calling her that?
You ARE aware that people don’t respond well to being called names (whether they are accurate names or not is irrelevant)?
Note that when talking with lepers and tax collectors and whores, Jesus never calls them that. There’s no scripture where Jesus says “Whore! You’re a whore!”
Instead He offered grace and love and a new way of life.
Thus, even IF Esthier is a whore, calling her that doesn’t HELP the situation.
Of course, if she’s NOT a whore, then you’re not only wrong, but you’re sinning (falsely accusing).
Thus, if you are trying to teach, then you are doing a horrible job at it since no one is listening to you because of how you act toward people.
So’s the word ‘ass.’
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 10:40 PM
MadisonConservative, I haven’t had this much fun since I discovered a dog plus a laser pointer.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Watch Andromeda and you’ll see.
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Philosopher of the Nazis? Heidegger would more likely have that role, he actually was living during Nazism. You know who likes Heidegger? All the UofC Philosophers that are called the Neocons, the Straussians. Big fans of Heidegger.
Nietzsche was self admittedly a Dionysian. His “God” would be Dionysus, the guy they stole most of Jesus’s character traits from.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Didn’t we go through this the other day and had a good laugh about this assertion?
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Anyone want to discuss Exodus or Genesis?
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Many are prone to laugh inappropriately.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM
LOL!
…sorry, it’s dumb but I couldn’t resist.
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Despite our many, many disagreements, I see we are allies in the most important fight of out age. Though I’m sure we will continue to attack each other harshly, we should never lose sight of that fact. And to be clear, I have no intention of offering you any olive branch.
thuja on December 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Hint: The part of your post I quoted.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Clever. Use a red herring so that you don’t have to answer the question. Collie, why don’t you tell everyone what Nietzshe meant?
My collie says:
Advice that many of the atheists have conveniently ignored. They have BECOME the religious extremists that they struggle so mightily against, n’est-ce pas?
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Gretchen is the real troll, she is a sickening silly fool.
AprilOrit on December 18, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Why do the Christians insist on supremacy in the public square? If Atheist displays are so insulting and so should banned, why not ban Christian displays because they insult islam? Perhaps because you don’t have a right to not be insulted?
ronsfi on December 18, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Cha-ching!
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:52 PM
And make inappropriate and misinformed comparisons.
Seriously, other than both were the sons of God, both died and both rose again…
…there are no other similarities.
And even in these similarities there are profound and fundamental differences.
Jesus was born to be the messiah.
Dionysus was born… simply because Zeus got horny. And depending on which myth you read, was either born of a human mother (Semele) or a goddess (Persephone).
Jesus died on the cross by the hands of the people He came to save.
Dionysus died by the hands of the Titans sent by his father’s wife.
Jesus was resurrected to conquer death and give eternal life to humans.
Dionysus was resurrected because… well, because Zeus wanted to.
And since God/human couplings were not new, even for the Dionysus myth…
…and neither were death/resurrection stories…
…it’s just plain silly to state that Christ was “patterned” off of Dionysus.
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Thuja, and everybody else, Jews and Christians under Islamic rule have the option of accepting jizya as an alternative to conversion to Islam. Atheists either become Muslim or die. Atheists have a reason to resist the coming Caliphate also.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Fine let’s try this again:
“Now if you would awaken a man-even though he were the dullest of all people-as one awakens a sleeping individual, and if you were to ask him whether he desired at that moment to have knowledge of the heavenly spheres, namely, what their number is and what their configuration, and what is contained in them, and what the angels are, and how the world as a whole was created, what its end is in view of the arrangements of various parts with one another, and what the soul is, and how it is created in time in the body, and whether the human soul can be separated from the body, and, if it can, in what manner and through what instrument and with distinction in view, and if you put the same question to him with regard to other subjects of research of this kind, he would undoubtedly answer you in the affirmative. He would have a natural desire to know these things as they are in truth; but he would wish this desire to be allayed, and the knowledge of all this to be achieved by means of one or two words that you would say to him. If, however you would lay upon him obligations to abandon his occupation for a week’s time until he should understand all this, he would not do it, but would be satisfied with deceptive imaginings through which his soul would be set at ease. He would also dislike being told there is such a thing whose knowledge requires many premises and a long time for investigation. You know these matters are mutually connected; there being nothing in what exists besides God, may he be exalted, and the totality of things that he had made; for they are indicative of His existence and of what ought to be believed about Him, I mean to say, of what should be affirmed and denied with regard to Him. It is therefore indispensible to consider all beings as they really are so that we may obtain for all the kinds of beings true and certain premises that would be useful to us in our researches pertaining to the divine science.
(Moses Maimonides, Guide of the Perplexed,I 34)
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 10:57 PM
@ Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 10:54 PM
We all know the story of Jesus.
Bible simplified
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 10:58 PM
.
Don’t forget Osiris who was also resurrected and indeed along with the holy tree metaphor.
ronsfi on December 18, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Dude.
Sounds like they were both based off of Neo from the Matrix.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Wickedpedia is not a good source for information. If you are just scrounging around for ideas, Wikedpedia is fine.
I posted the following:
The person who thinks a Book had no designer is:
___ A. Intelligent
___ B. A fool
___ C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious
To which you responded:
You wrote the book analogy was silly. You said the arguments was known to be silly for over two hundred years. Now, I don’t want to go sorting through a whole bunch of links from you explaining this. Tell me in your own words why it is silly for me to propose that a Book could not assemble itself? I just want a general idea why you think words, sentences, and paragraphs, paper, ink, exclamation points, question marks, punctuation, and meaning and structure to all of it which creates the Book is silly? And why you want me to believe that evolved from a nothing! Thank you.
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 11:00 PM
@ apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 11:00 PM
That could be the dumbest thing I ever read.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Thuja, Ya wanna know whut I think? I don’t think Apacalips book thingy is worth a reply.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I fishing in my memory for Osiris, but drew a blank so I left him out.
Still, many profound and fundamental differences in the stories…
…but it’s closer to Jesus than Dionysus.
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Gretchen Carlson could be the dumbest person I have ever seen on TV. Apparently she cannot figure out that the reason for the “Thou shall not steal” sign is to remind Christians what they apparently believe in.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Well, I’d hate to call you ignorant, but…
…they were all (Neo included) based on E.T.!!!
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Dude.
ET was a bad Atari game.
Don’t blaspheme.
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Because a book can’t assemble itself, and this is silly because it proves nothing.
FloatingRock on December 18, 2008 at 11:09 PM
According to Euripides he was born of Semele, divinely impregnated, who was killed in child birth and was hidden from Herad, oops I mean Hera, because she would kill him so Zeus created a dummy of Dionysus which Hera flung to its death.
Both subjected to their parent’s will, death.
Actions were the same rhetoric was skewed, the rhetoric is what influences behavior, actions provide the awe.
True, they’ve been making up this crap for years. That’s the point of the larger discussion, religions themself.
Yeah your right, but this conversation sure made me feel like picking up Euripides’ Bacchus. I can read about he God of Wine who healed people, had a profound effect on women and dealt with them more than many other Gods. And the part where he destroys the denier of God’s will, Penthius’s Temple, or Palace is great.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM
So. What do you suggest?
My collie says:
Already been done — many times before. As Sean Connery would say, “I’m waiting to be impressed.”
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I agree with you, but I am disappointed because in my previous response to him I did try to reply with him with sincerity. And he did claim to care passionately enough about the truth, but apparently not enough to read a few paragraphs!
thuja on December 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Listen, when I say everything is based off of E.T. (a Christ story filmed by Jewish Steven Spielberg – figure THAT one out!)…
…I mean it!!
Don’t get me angry.
You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.
/
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
I guess Apacalyps is trying to convince us that if a book was made by a man, therefore the universe was also made by a man. Who? Joe Da Plumber? That guy from “This Old House?”
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM
@ Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM
What he will never answer is, who made the creator. If a book is so complex, it needs a creator, certainly God is more complex than a book.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:15 PM
What do I suggest? That’s a rather open question. Can you narrow it down a bit to a given topic?
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Oh really?
Say…did you hear Obama won?
*ducks and watches with a smirk*
MadisonConservative on December 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM
1) According to ANOTHER story, he was born to Persephone. At least have a coherent story.
2) And Dionysus was born for WHAT reason? To be the messiah? To save His people? Oh, just because Zeus got horny.
3) And Jesus was killed by God’s jealous wife? Oh, wait, that’s not how it went.
1) Christ died by the will of His father in order to save mankind.
2) Dionysus died by the will of his mother because his father couldn’t keep his pants zippered. Yeah, THOSE are the same things.
I’m not sure that sentence was actually written in English.
Anyway, Jesus’ resurrection showed the defeat of death so that His followers could have eternal life.
Dionysus’ resurrection showed…um….well…hmmm…
…well it showed that his father wanted him back for his own selfish reasons.
You know, there are valid, respected doubts about Christianity.
This ain’t one of them.
Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 11:19 PM
@ Religious_Zealot on December 18, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Well that was an EPIC failure.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:22 PM
He still is ‘active’. Just as he often spoke through his angels or prophets, he still does. There have been numerous confirmed miracles, and many claim to have been visited by the Virgin Mary, sent by her Son who is God. Some of these apparitions have been approved by the Vatican. This isn’t done lightly. Medjugore is still under investigation after all these years. Many scoff at these things, yet scientists and doctors have tried and failed to explain the miracles. The Shroud of Turin is still in question, even in this age. Interestingly, the sample tested came from a patch and not the original cloth. Even with the erroneous conclusion on the patched part, they still can’t explain how the image came to be there. I believe it is a miracle. The stories of people as they face death…So many things that I see as evidence of God’s action in our lives. God has never stopped ’speaking’ to us. We are just less likely to hear or recognize him in all the noise of our modern world.
pannw on December 18, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Muyoso, I cannot grasp any analogy between a man made object and the universe. I don’t think Thomas Aquinas’ arguments work either. Maybe they did in the 13th Century, maybe.
I’m gonna make a wild guess and assume this thread is still alive tomorrow. Ya think?
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM
@ pannw on December 18, 2008 at 11:22 PM
“confirmed” You need to put quotes around it when the only people confirming the miracles are those who benefit by people believing they happened.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Based on the quote, you would seem to be suggesting that “truth” can only be arrived at by rigorous, disciplined study — the kind of study that the “simple minded” are too lazy or too stupid to pursue. I’m waiting for you to tell me how the participants can meet your standards here at HotAir.
My collie says:
Collie seems to thinks that you just might be a liberal.
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM
@ Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I just started commenting tonight, so maybe. Finally saw the clip and what an ass Michelle came off as, and how stupid Gretchen looked. Pissed me off enough that they were advocating theft that I chose to comment.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I didn’t call him “pure evil,” You are not characterizing my intention accurately. I rebuked ColtsFan for accusing an innocent man of having ethical problems. Not only that, but ColtsFan attacked his views which are essentially the same as my views. You don’t do that! You don’t attack or undermine a fellow brother or sister in Christ when they are trying to serve the Lord with a pure heart. Even if they are not serving the Lord how you prefer them too. Everybody has their own job. Leave ‘em alone! So I rebuked Coltsfan saying, “Get thee hence, Satan: (Matthew 4:10). Leave me alone. I don’t want your help.” I didn’t do anything unscriptural. The Lord Jesus didn’t use passive words when the apostle Peter denied His words, instead “he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.” (Matthew 16:22-23). Jesus recognized that this was really Satan speaking through Peter (Get thee behind me, Satan) — not in the sense of satanic possession, but rather satanic persuasion. Jesus sharply rebuked Peter.
apacalyps on December 18, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Pannw, why does God never answer an amputee’s prayer for a severed limb to grow back. Is it that much more difficult than miraculously curing cancer?
I’ll supply the answer tomorrow.
Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM
@ Pelayo on December 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Why doesn’t God stop children from being raped and beheaded? Guess they were dirty little sinners.
muyoso on December 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Like I said before, Michelle was priceless in this clip. She was spot on.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on December 18, 2008 at 11:31 PM
…..And some of my best friends are liberals.
I just consider them “politically challenged”.
Atheists…well, you gotta believe in something. I believe I’ll have another beer.
HornetSting on December 18, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Ummm, let’s talk about Christ.
Who is your intended audience? Early Greek Tragedy needed to appeal to all, Christianity in its early years was more reliant on the poor and uneducated.
Herad, I mean Hera was still a Goddess herself. All Christianity did was consolidate the Gods into one, or three. The duality of God’s will still exists, the monotheistic God both wished Jesus dead and resurrected, and also save him in infancy from Herod.
LevStrauss on December 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM
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