Actually they have not. This year is the coolest in the last ten years according to the WMO which has records globally going back some time but 2008 is set o be the tenth warmest on record.

http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/news/index_en.html

lexhamfox on December 19, 2008 at 4:38 AM

Firstly your link doesn’t work. Second, don’t worry, with Hanson and his crew of merry “data fixers” they will soon have 2008 as the hottest year ever !!

But of course if you look at reconstructed data, you will see that nothing in the past 200 years comes close to being as hot as it was during the the Medieval Warm Period that lasted about 500 years from 800AD to 1300AD. I guess they were just driving way too many SUV’s back then.

Global averages matter much more (see WMO reports) than these anecdotal snippets that prove nothing.

lexhamfox on December 18, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Good thing that global average temperatures have been falling for a decade.

MarkTheGreat on December 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Actually they have not. This year is the coolest in the last ten years according to the WMO which has records globally going back some time but 2008 is set o be the tenth warmest on record.

http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/news/index_en.html

Keep in mind that while 99.9% of all species have gone extinct, what is worrying biologists is a sharp increase in the rate of extinction.

thuja on December 18, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Sorry thuja, I was going to let it go, but then I saw Poptech’s post and I can’t resist.

Allow me to enter 454,000 instances of “thought extinct” into the record.

Really, how arrogant do you have to be to declare a species extinct? How would you go about that? Wouldn’t you have to be in all places at the same time in order to make such a declaration? Unless you have overturned every rock and dived into every cave, what are your chances of being correct?

Watch for the “thought extinct” headline in the news from now on, its a common story.

Fact is, science is not and cannot be 100% sure that the dinosaurs are extinct. I know you will want to scoff at that but if you do, I’ll give you some links that suggest some may very well, still be alive today. Sounds crazy, I know.

Keep in mind that while 99.9% of all species have gone extinct, what is worrying biologists is a sharp increase in the rate of extinction.

thuja on December 18, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Thuja spreads species extinction propaganda.

Bullshit! – Endangered Species (1/3) (Video) (10min)
Bullshit! – Endangered Species (2/3) (Video) (10min)
Bullshit! – Endangered Species (3/3) (Video) (9min)

Not Extinct – Angola Giant Sable: Rare African antelope ‘rediscovered’ (BBC)
Not Extinct – Bavarian Short-eared Mouse: Back from the dead, not seen for 40 years (The Guardian, UK)
Not Extinct – Beck’s Petrel: Flies Back From Presumed Extinction (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Cobble Elimia, Nodulose Coosa and Cahaba Pebble Snails: Thought extinct found in Alabama (Associated Press)
Not Extinct – Cape Lion: ‘Extinct’ lions surface in Siberia (BBC)
Not Extinct – Capricorn Beetle: ‘Extinct’ beetle comes out of the woodwork (The Daily Telegraph)
Not Extinct – Canterbury Knobbed Weevils: ‘Extinct’ bug found alive and well in high-country reserve (The New Zealand Herald)
Not Extinct – Cozumel Thrasher: ‘Extinct’ Bird Rediscovered In Mexico (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Cuban Solenodon: Mammal thought extinct found in Cuba (The Age, Australia)
Not Extinct – Dwarf Cloud Rat: Rediscovered After 112 Years (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Giant Palouse Earthworm: Idaho Researcher Finds Rare Earthworm (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Gilbert’s Potoroo: Thought extinct for over 100 years, found in Western Australia (Associated Press)
Not Extinct – Glass Sponges: Once thought extinct, now found nearby (UWeek)
Not Extinct – Greater Bamboo Lemur: Held Extinct Found on Madagascar (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Greater Mouse-eared Bat: ‘Extinct’ – bounces back (BBC)
Not Extinct – Harlequin Frog (Carrikeri): Rediscovered In Remote Region Of Colombia (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Harlequin Frog (Painted Frog): Believed Extinct Found Alive (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Harlequin Frog (San Lorenzo): Rediscovery Of Endangered Colombian Frogs (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Harlequin Frog (Santa Marta): Rediscovery Of Endangered Colombian Frogs (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Indian Owl: Considered Extinct, Is Captured on Film by Americans (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Ivory-billed Woodpecker: Not extinct (CNN)
Not Extinct – Javan Elephant: Presumed Extinct, May Have Been Found Again – In Borneo (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Javan Rhinoceros: Thought Extinct, a Few Are Seen in Vietnam (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Kouprey Oxen: ‘Extinct’ oxen are seen (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – La Palma Giant Lizard: Scientists find ‘extinct’ giant lizards (BBC)
Not Extinct – Leatherback Turtles: Not extinct in Malaysia (The Hindu)
Not Extinct – Laotian Rock Rat: Retired professor tracks down rodent thought to be extinct (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)
Not Extinct – Long-beaked Echidna: New hope over ‘extinct’ echidna (BBC)
Not Extinct – Michigan Cougars: Not Extinct, Animal Droppings Indicate (Live Science)
Not Extinct – Mount Diablo Buckwheat Wildflower: Thought Extinct Rediscovered in California (NPR)
Not Extinct – New York Moose: Once Extinct in the state, return to New York (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Opal Allotoca: ‘Extinct’ Fish Found (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Palos Verdes Blue Butterfly: Flutters Back to Life (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Pygmy Hippos: Caught on film (BBC)
Not Extinct – Pygmy Tarsiers: Long-lost ‘Furby-like’ Primate Discovered In Indonesia (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Rat-squirrel: Not extinct after all (USA Today)
Not Extinct – Red Colobus Monkey: Thought Extinct Still Exists (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Robust Redhorse Sucker Fish: Thought Extinct Found Again in Georgia (The Georgia Aquarium)
Not Extinct – Ryukyu Spiny Rat: Not Extinct (Japan Probe)
Not Extinct – Siamese Crocodile: Once Thought Extinct, Is Photographed In Thailand (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Sheepnose Mussel: Thought extinct surfaces in Mississippi (Delta Farm Press)
Not Extinct – Short-necked Oil Beetle: Re-emerges after 60 years (BBC)
Not Extinct – Storm Petrel: Flies back from extinction after 150 years (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Not Extinct – Sumatran Ground Cuckoo: Lost Cuckoo Breaks Its Silence (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Swinhoe’s Soft-Shell Turtle: Discovered Living In Wild In Northern Vietnam (Science Daily)
Not Extinct – Tibet Red Deer: Hunch Leads to Discovery of Herd Thought to Be Extinct (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – U.S. Jaguar: Gone for Decades, Jaguars Steal Back to the Southwest (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Warbler: Fiji’s ‘extinct’ bird flies anew (BBC)
Not Extinct – Woolly Flying Squirrel: Long Thought Extinct, Shows Up in Pakistan (The New York Times)
Not Extinct – Yangtze (Baiji) River Dolphin: Previously Thought Extinct Spotted In The Yangtze River (Science Daily)

Smoking is healthier than Fascism t-shirt:)

dawgyear on December 18, 2008 at 9:29 PM

I wish I had one of those t-shirts.

Are these global warming “experts” related to any of the so-called “financial experts”?

“Just shut up and give us all of your money and things will be OK”

Am I the only one getting really tired of these ‘tards?

All these global warming nutjobs are a bunch of enviro-conspiracy theorists. In fact global warming is a conspiracy theory driven by what I call enviro-fascists. All they need to know is one thing is responsible among many for this planet’s climate change. Something that is 93,000,000 miles from earth. It’s something called THE SUN!

What’s up??

DaveS and StarTrek boy are strangely not carrying ALGORE’S water in this thread.

Did a check bounce???

BigWyo on December 18, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Well they tried, or some other watermelons did anyway but what can they say?

Er uh um uh….climate ain’t weather?

Anyway the joke is on the nation at large because it was never about the “$cience” it is about the religion, the money, and the power…..

Global warming hits Las Vegas
How about … Las Vegas?

Four inches in Vegas proper — where they won’t have snowplows at
the ready — is a disaster. Ice makes it even worse, and indicates that
the temperatures dropped dramatically as…

DaveS and StarTrek boy are strangely not carrying ALGORE’S water in this thread.

Did a check bounce???

Damn, now we’re destroying the entire universe?

Cancel Christmas…

catmman on December 18, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Major HEH!!!

I refuse to argue with anyone about global warming, because I wouldn’t know what I’m talking about.

thuja on December 18, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Oh, well this must be a recent development because I sure can remember you piling-on and ganging up on me in the past. But that’s OK thuja, have a Merry Christmas anyway.

Seems like a classic example of the Gore Effect.

At least half, probably more, of the species currently listed are in reality nothing more than geographically isolated populations of already existing species.

The over/under on speculation about Al Gore’s presence in Vegas was 5 comments. Not even close….

Tongueboy on December 18, 2008 at 3:55 PM

The Gore effect is a matter of record…he HAD to have at least flown overhead like a chicken fried platitude spouting Superman….

Funny thing, including Canada and Mexico, we currently have well over 500 million, and are having absolutely no trouble maintaining that level. Heck, not only are we maintaining it, we are growing enough food to export to much of the rest of the world.

MarkTheGreat on December 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM

The Malthusian cult is not really about “sustainability” it wants to pick the winners and the losers of as ALGORE likes to call it “life’s lottery”….

You owe it to yourself to press one of the Watermelons long enough to get them to admit they think 95% of people should either be sterilized or “go home”….

Keep in mind that while 99.9% of all species have gone extinct, what is worrying biologists is a sharp increase in the rate of extinction.

thuja on December 18, 2008 at 2:11 PM

A small handfull of marginal species haven’t been seen in a few years. Whoop the freaking doo.

I believe the figure for stainable population is somewhere at about 1million people for North America. At least that is the figure we bandied about back in the 70s when I was very active in what was called Ecology at the time.

jmarcure on December 18, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Funny thing, including Canada and Mexico, we currently have well over 500 million, and are having absolutely no trouble maintaining that level. Heck, not only are we maintaining it, we are growing enough food to export to much of the rest of the world.