Birther lawsuit tossed by Kennedy
posted at 2:30 pm on December 17, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy rejected two appeals this afternoon challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for the Presidency. One of the two appeals came from Philip Berg, the 9/11 conspiracy theorist who claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and that a conspiracy existed to cover up the alleged Constitutional defect to his candidacy:
Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has rejected two more efforts to get the court to consider whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to take office.
Kennedy on Wednesday denied without comment an appeal by Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney, that claims Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia and is ineligible to be president because he is not a “natural-born citizen” of the U.S. as required by the Constitution. Another appeal from California, based on Berg’s claims, also was denied.
Individual justices and the entire court have turned down emergency appeals over Obama’s eligibility at least seven times in the past six weeks.
And that puts an end to the entire farce. Berg can certainly petition another justice, perhaps Scalia or Thomas, who have both sent previous challenges to conference. However, without Kennedy, the court would almost certainly rule against the appeal, and probably couldn’t get the four votes to even grant certiorari. Sending it back to conference would do nothing but waste more time.
I’m certain that Obama didn’t stay awake nights worrying about this, and Hawaii officials have publicly attested to the accuracy of the certification Obama released in June. What will the birther industry do now? If the 9/11 Truthers give any kind of example, they’ll sell lots of books and keep the flame alive.
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I’ve heard that before.
The question is what celebrities are going to be the spokespersons for this new movement? Who will the birthers have to rival Rosie O’Donnell and Charlie Sheen and Jesse Ventura?
*snort*
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 2:35 PM
I still want to know why Obama simply doesn’t ask the ……yawwwwwwwn.
Oh, sorry what was I typing?
mylegsareswollen on December 17, 2008 at 2:35 PM
And so ends my macadamia nut theory. It was fun while it lasted and I still contend that The Black Caesar is a clone baby of Indonesia dictator Sukarno but we’ll never know for certain now.
grdred944 on December 17, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Hmmm so if anyone asks me to prove myself via birthcert or anything else. I guess I will just have to point them to Obama and say “He didn’t show his, I don’t have to show mine!”.
upinak on December 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM
The only ones I can think of who are as easily swayed are ones who are such staunch supporters of Obama that they wouldn’t believe this theory even if it were proven.
Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 2:38 PM
You’ve got it all wrong.
Not the Indonesia dictator Sukarno, but the wild man of Borneo.
But you didn’t hear it from me.
wise_man on December 17, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Hey, that worked for some kids on broccoli.
Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Immaculate Deception.
fogw on December 17, 2008 at 2:40 PM
most boringest political drama everrrzzz
Drunk Report on December 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Politically, I wish these people would go away because it appears that there is no factual basis for establishing that Obama is not qualified to be President. And it will make the Republicans look bad when the media highlights these people. But I think there is something wrong with the legal basis for these cases because they assert that there is no general standing to make these types of arguments. By doing so, there is doubt about whether anyone could assert these claims.
RedSoxNation on December 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM
In typical fashion of the “let’s bury our head in the sand” crowd Ed Morrissey condems our desire to “see the proof”. It’s a very, very simple matter to solve Ed, what is wrong with showing us the Official Long Form? Of course the “Officials” in HI have “confirmed” the proof, but the “Officials” in PA didn’t use Government computers to pry into Joe The Plumber either according to Ed and the rest of those that want Big Ears as POTUS. So first we “might” have an Illegal Alien as CIC, we know for sure we have a liar… But maybe Ed doubts that BHO had any contact with IL Govenor either… What are you worried about Ed? That BHO may really not be able to serve and “black wrath” would spill into the streets? I’m armed and ready, BRING IT ON! People like Ed make me sad to be a Conservative and I can’t believe he has any part in a Conservative blog… His position on this is NOT based on any fact, rather it is his desire to simple blindly follow the Messiah into the hell that will be America under his reign.
*** Put’s tin foil hat back on, walks to corner, sits down, rocks back and forth slowly, clinging to his gun, God and American dream…
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I hear you, but I’m not sure I could get the TN Dept. of Vital Records to take the time to assert the authenticity of mine. I guess I’ll just have to keep a copy of my birth certificate handy….
cs89 on December 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM
I tend to think you’re being a bit harsh on our Edward.
He is a great conservative author. Moreover, I haven’t seen ANY evidence to suggest Edward wants to “blindly” follow the Messiah.
Stay in the bunker with your canned beans and shotgun slugs, guy.
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM
RedSoxNation on December 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I notice no concern from you that the Messiah’s own Grandmother recalls him being born in Kenya, then “suddenly” changes her story… My Grandmother knows where I was born, I bet yours does too, but I guess BHO’s is mistaken… Inconveient Truths keep popping up all around The One, but no one seems to see a pattern of lies and deciet… Even the “so called” Conservatives here at HA. No wonder we are losing, we have a bunch of mind numbed sheep on our side too, ready to believe that BHO is a truth teller and those of us that simply ask for proof are the “nuts”.
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM
What did you read that I missed in Ed’s condemnation of those of us that simply are asking to see the document?
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Sure hope Putin doesn’t have an Obama birth Cert with a Kenyan birthplace.
Or Chavez.
Or Ahmadinijhad.
Or Mookie.
See? Hope! It works!
Wander on December 17, 2008 at 2:53 PM
I think Ed’s term was “farce”. I guess he feels it a “farce” that BHO or his staff had contact about his Senate seat or that BHO’s 700 Million dollar donations was all legit, or maybe that ACORN had no contact with BHO’s campaign. Ed seems to me to be in the mold of Powell and McCain… Let’s just go along to get along.
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I guess we’ll have to wait until hussein ticks off the media for them to report facts pertaining to hussein’s birthplace and the address
6085 Kalanianaole,
Then again, it shouldn’t take much brain usage to understand that hussein is paying to hide something.
christene on December 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM
You sit back, typing feverishly about Edward has no place in a conservative blog, how he makes you sad to be a conservative, and how he wants to blindly follow the Messiah to the gates of Hell.
What rubbish!
Why do you need to question his conservative principles because hes examined the issue of Obama’s birth and found the claim of illegal status to be bunk? Why does it require someone to question his place in conservatism and the conservative blogosphere?
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Looks like I’m NOT the only one who smells something and is conecting the lies and the dots that seem to follow BHO, I have more “tin hats” for all of you that think, even in the back of your mind, that this does not pass the “smell” test.
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Why did I get a weird camp flashback here?
lorien1973 on December 17, 2008 at 2:57 PM
A woman almost always has her mother in the room with her but not always her husband’s mother.
Had it been the grandmother who just passed, I’d find that argument more convincing. Since it’s instead his father’s mother, the same father who ran out and left his children (including the one living on dollars), it just doesn’t hold much weight.
Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
LOL
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
But you have to admit that Berg’s suit was kinda loopy.
Wander on December 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
What “facts” does Ed have that we don’t? None… He’s looking at this just like I have, reading all he can, looking at conflicting info from BHO’s own Grandmother and interviews from others in Kenya, he’s looked at the Officials records in HI.? I have, the HI officials are all very active Liberals that have a huge stake in saying whatever needs to be said and done to protect The One.
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 3:00 PM
I personally don’t have a position on this issue. At times I am suspicious as well, and the fact that BO just won’t dispel the rumors makes me so.
However, people needn’t attack Ed and his place in conservatism and its blogs because of his position. He is a well-documented conservative with principles and thought processes. I don’t think he deserves to be viewed as a slavish fool, salivating at the thought of submitting himself to the One.
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Cause you were that guy at campt that freaked me out!/
upinak on December 17, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Wander on December 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Berg is a nut job, granted and agreed.
But I have yet to hear ANYONE tell me why BHO won’t just kill all this and prove that us dumb ass Conservatives are just trying to hurt him… SCORE HUGE POINTS AGAINST US BY SHOWING HOW STUPID WE ARE, easy, show the long form…
I would… wouldn’t you in just a political sense, if it’s there it would shut us up on future issues, we’d be marginalized. Instead, nothing…
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Dream on. This will never end until PEBO coughs up the BC or someone gets their hands on it. I am one of the most adamant people who want this document given to a court. If a sealed copy went directly from the vault to a court, even I would shut up and go away. 99% of those you ridicule as “birthers” would be satisfied. Only the truly delusional would still cry fraud. I think we all agree that PEBO is a pathological liar. Why do you think this is the one time he is “George Washington, can’t tell a lie”. Especially in light of the fact that he refuses to show the document in question.
mrsmwp on December 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM
oh noes!! The Constitution means nothing! Soon foreign toddlers will be elected president, and nothing can stop them except the American electorate!
frankj on December 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Why make fun of people because they simply want a simple form of proof to be provided?
We just witnessed a nation get conned by the media and Democratic party to elect someone who has no expirience to run a 7-11 and WE are the crazy ones?
We are the “birther lunatics” because we dont accept the word of some official we dont know or place any trust in, to tell us what a basic document could easily verify?
This is not a conspiracy, this is a basic requirement to be President, we are not asking for a DNA sample, we simply want an authority to verify something that is the most basic requirement to be President because, to put this simply, WE DO NOT TRUST THE LIAR to tell the truth nor anyone who could be remotely associated with The One.
This is not rocket science, this is not crazy talk, this is a simple requirement. We KNOW he is a liar, we KNOW he surrounds himself with CON MEN, we KNOW they will do anything to be in POWER…so why is this such a crazy request? We just want to KNOW he is eligible…call it a last ditch effort to eliminate him via an Al Capone Tax evasion strategy. Is this so wrong?
javamartini on December 17, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Maybe he’s entertained by the debate among the fringes. It gains him nothing to prove this wrong unless conservatives with more authority were actually making an issue out of this and he could make them look dumb.
frankj on December 17, 2008 at 3:08 PM
And another Kennedy believes she has a birthright to a Senate seat.
rbj on December 17, 2008 at 3:08 PM
I read in an article that Hawaii does issue birth certificates to people born outside the state, and also that the DHS doesn’t even accept the short form as a birth certificate. It does make me wonder, but what I find more disturbing is the courts decision that no one has the right to enforce the minimum requirements.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 3:08 PM
So it’s ok for Ed to condem folks like me, but for me to call him out on it makes me the bad guy. I’m as Conservative as Ed, big time. My positions are well known, I would NEVER have taken the position that all of us that question the truth telling of “Officials” in HI that are Liberals, or the honesty of BHO, wear tin hats and are the same as 9/11′ers… Terrorists killed Americans on 9/11, but questions still exist and are magnified by BHO’s refusal to simply open the vault and make us all look like the fools Ed seems to imply we are. So don’t throw stones my way unless you confront Ed’s bias against getting the hard copy facts proven, instead of relying on “officials” stating things…
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 3:10 PM
To Mark Garnett…I’m with you buddy. You should hear the chatter, the incredulity, and the exasperation on the local lawyer listserv…everybody wants to know whether we as citizens of the United States will be entrusting our country to a man who may be a foreigner. These are not kooks, either, these are jurists, young and old, who live their lives by the rule of law and are part of the system that creates the law.
Anyone who has taken even a layman’s evidence class has only to LOOK at the evidence attached to Berg’s petition to at least CONSIDER whether a reasonable person would be able to make a judgment regarding citizenship. Yet it will never see the light of day. The matter will NOT be adjudicated because (from the chatter at least) it seems the ONLY class of person with standing is a secretary of state who petitions the court to verify the credentials of winner of that state’s electoral college, and not a single SOS in our union has the political courage.
Game. Over.
JustTruth101 on December 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM
While I don’t for a second doubt that Obama is legally qualified to be POTUS, I’d still like to see the proof. There are two requirements to be POTUS: age and citizenship.
It’s kind of insulting to the Constitution that Obama would refuse to show proof of his qualifications, isn’t it?
And I realize that no matter how Ed were to frame an argument to that effect he would still be called a birther by the left, so I understand why he doesn’t.
BadgerHawk on December 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM
P.S. The whole point of not allowing POTUS to be a foreigner is because this country was once ruled by a foreigner back in merry ole england, which didn’t work out too go for us. So our founding fathers decided we would never be ruled by a foreigner again, that we have a right to enshrine in our constitution that we will ONLY be ruled by our own citizens.
I don’t know whether BHO passes the credentials or not, all I want is for the matter to be adjudicated. But it’s not, so I guess all we can do moving forward is make sure it never happens again. We need to pass legislation in the next 4 years to have a public credentialing process put in place.
JustTruth101 on December 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I think the court does not want:
Figuring out what to do with this fraud.
Messy suits by the plebes.
A country in flames.
More bad PR after the ruling in the last presidential election.
Juan McCain and the Republicans should have brought this up but maybe they are doing an avant, high grade version of amnesty. The Court might have become involved in that suit. What a country.
IlikedAUH2O on December 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Some of the smartest people in the entire world of finance just got CONNED to the tune of 50 BILLION dollars, went on for years… And these are very very sharp folks for the most part. They believed too, maybe they should have question things that seemed wrong, many clues existed. Now that scam has broke and most say they thought something was amiss… So is this any different, is anyone willing to think “what if”? We all got hammered for not connecting the dots before, I just want a bit more proof… Ed, I would hope, can understand that thought process without calling me a kook.
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Because as long as he holds it back, the more he emboldens lunatics like you, and the louder you get, the more idiotic all conservatives look.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:18 PM
*sigh*
Keep on lying. Evidently, it makes you feel good.
progressoverpeace on December 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Your name is an insult to real American Conservatives that simply want the rule of law, the Constitution followed. I’m no lunatic, you’ve seen my posts here at HA as I have seen yours… Smarter people then us just got wiped out in a 50 Billion dollar scam put on by one man, so you don’t think HI officials and others can’t be “bought” for the sake of BHO ?
Mark Garnett on December 17, 2008 at 3:22 PM
HI officials verified no such thing as I posted with references. I also heard their statements. They seemed to suggest the opposite with their careful language.
Others cited statutes prohibiting such verification.
IlikedAUH2O on December 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM
How on earth do I look like a lunatic for desiring to know whether my President Elect is actually born in this country? Please explain how asking for solid proof of citizenry from someone who is well known as being deceitful a crazy idea?
If you are correct, then requiring evidence of anything else in the future can simply be categorized as preposterous….right??
javamartini on December 17, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Illinois Supreme Court refuses to hear motion to declare Blagojevich unfit to serve… Developing…
econavenger on December 17, 2008 at 3:26 PM
It takes some sort of well fed megalomania to refuse to divulge the records some of these people wanted.
And who feeds it?
IlikedAUH2O on December 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Mark Garnett has made perfectly reasonable arguments why he would like to see the document, and all you offer is “you look crazy” as a counter argument. I agree that at such a late date it would be incredibly destructive to the country should it prove he is ineligible, but that isn’t our fault, it’s the Democratic party’s fault. I remember a few months ago it was cool to call Ron “gold standard” Paul crazy, but now the gold standard looks better every passing day.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM
And that’s why I think you’re a lunatic. You turn the caps lock on and go to town, you paste comments across multiple posts, and you rant like a priest on judgment day. You call into question the political integrity of others because they don’t buy into your tinpot conspiracy theory, even though you’re hard pressed to find one actual conservative figure who gives any credence to this crock of bull you’ve been keeping over a low flame.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Because he is. Have a nice day.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:30 PM
“the more he emboldens lunatics like you, and the louder you get, the more idiotic all conservatives look.”
He could make us look really stupid by producing the forms and evidence in a public show of his red, white and blue heritage. He is illegit in every way.
IlikedAUH2O on December 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I can’t recall Edward questioning the conservative credentials of those questioning his birth.
I’m not throwing stones, I am calling you out on your ridiculous assertions on people’s credentials and character.
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I’m not a gold-standard person, but you have just proven that you don’t know jacksh!t about our monetary problems. Paul was one of the only people addressing the serious problems with our currency – while everyone else was ignoring the risks. Your calling him crazy shows that you understand little to nothing about monetary issues – whether you agree with Paul’s solution or not.
People like you make the rest of us conservatives look bad.
progressoverpeace on December 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM
+1
+1
wise_man on December 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Sure they can be bought, even the Gov. a close friend of Palin’s could be bought…and aliens could have built the pyramids, Obama could be Satan, and the Illuminati could be controlling everything, lots of thing “could” happen, but did or are they? Reasonable men say no…
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM
The actual state of his mental health won’t really matter as the economic crisis continues to grow.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Nice. He’s gone from supposedly questionable citizen status to not a citizen in any way, not over the age of 35, and has not been a permanent resident of the US for 14 years.
I love the progression of this.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM
As they say, a stopped clock is right twice a day. Him, and other frequent Alex Jones interviewees like him have been talking about economic meltdown for years and years. I could go outside and scream that it’s going to rain in the next hour, and everyone should run out and invest in an umbrella. Now, I will probably be wrong for a while, but eventually it will rain. Doesn’t make me a meteorologist.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:44 PM
There can be only 2 reasons why he hasn’t produced the official long form birth certificate and spent $5-800,000. on legal fees fighting this.
1. He was born in Kenya and is ineligible for POTUS
2. He was born in Kenya and is ineligible for POTUS
Any other reason makes no sense.
He said in his book he found his original certificate in papers at his grandmothers house, so he has it!
txdoc on December 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Do you actually believe this mess started last year? It has been a snowball rolling down hill and growing for decades as one bad decision rolled into and compounded another, they have been talking about a meltdown for years because it has taken years to create one.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Naaaaawwww! He didn’t spend much time worrying, except that he threw about a $1 million beating back lawsuits to force him to show his creds when he could have just shown a REAL birth certificate which costs about ten bucks. But why worry when you have Chris Matthews rooting for you and Ed Morrissey poo-pooing your detractors as truthers?
Western_Civ on December 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM
So ten years ago, when it was a small, fixable matter, they said it was a disaster. Five years ago, when it was a growing problem, but still could be dealt with, they said it was a disaster. Now, it really is an impending disaster, and they’re saying it’s a disaster. What a surprise.
In other words, that’s my point.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Best. HA post. Ever.
crr6 on December 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Must be a new poster.
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Seems like showing us the actual birth certificate could have saved a lot of time and money. Isn’t it also a tad funny that it says ” Birther suit tossed by Kennedy” while they are actually considering putting an unqualified Kennedy in the Senate? Just an irony.
SgtRed on December 17, 2008 at 3:52 PM
You would think so.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 3:52 PM
This is still not over. It will come back again once someone actually has standing.
sayabule1 on December 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Ed Morrissey wrote:
NO. THEY. DID. NOT!
The highest authority that has given its stamp of approval to the Certification posted on the Obama sites is Factcheck.org. It has NEVER been examined in court.
The most any Hawaii official has done is issue the following press release on October 31, 2008 (bold mine):
THAT’S IT. NO MENTION OF THE CERTIFICATION. NO MENTION OF WHAT HIS 1961 BIRTH CERTIFICATE READS. NONE WHATSOEVER.
Something that the Clinton years should have taught everybody is that the words you use mean things, and the words you DON’T use do too. As this Blago thing drags on day after day, you are watching Barack Transparent Obama morphing into the opaque Bill Clinton in every presser, and yet you are acting like the MSM, taking him at his word as if it’s good as gold. It ain’t — not on Wright, not on Ayers, not on public funds, not on tax cuts, not on wealth redistribution, not on Blago.
But on his birth cert? Anyone who questions that is like Alex Jones.
Meanwhile, Ed, you can’t even get your basic facts about what Hawaii has said straight! Shape up, Cap’n!
L.N. Smithee on December 17, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Mark Garnett has not made any assertions that Osama Obama is definitely unqualified, Constitutionally, to be President, and neither have most of us who feel the same way as he does.
As American citizens — the payers of his salary and the beneficiaries/victims of his actions — we have a right to know that he is what his scanty, much-suppressed history claims he is.
The Supremes just don’t have the b*lls to face this basic issue, and can breathe a sigh of relief on Jan. 20 when he’s sworn in. After that, they can say “he’s there, so let it go,” just like Ed, Michelle, and their rabid supporters among the “anti-birthers” want us to do now.
It’s such a simple issue. And so simply addressed.
Conspiracy theories are often born when people see such simple issues not addressed.
MrScribbler on December 17, 2008 at 3:56 PM
If Hot Air is going to cover this story, at least do a competent job. Why was the case thrown out? What was the ruling in the lower court? Was it on standing or did it address the merits? This might mean something if it was Keyes’ lawsuit that was being rejected. But it was just that nut Berg’s lawsuit.
P.S. Ed: The Hawaii Officials have stated that they have the original long form birth certificate in their possession, but they did not officially say what the BC says. Given that a Hawaiian BC could be given to a baby born oversees just by the parents attesting to Hawaii residency and could have been amended after the fact for just $3, I’d still like to see it before I entrust the missile codes to him. Thank you.
P.S.S. What do you call a nut who spends all his time on birther threads picking fights? Troll and/or Madison Conservative
tommylotto on December 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Alan Keyes has standing. The outcome of his lawsuit will be interesting.
txsurveyor on December 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Nobody has standing until Barry becomes President and he actually enforces a federal law. See Article II of the Constitution…ding dong…
sayabule1 on December 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM
These people and I do believe they exist, made predictions about our economy based on changes we made when it was healthy, and forecast doom. I don’t think it discounts their opinion because it took years to realize the destruction.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM
I understand that SCOTUS doesn’t want to hear a case that could potentially tell the President-Elect that he’s not qualified. I can sympathize with that.
I also understand that bloggers don’t want to risk their credibility on claims that seem questionable.
But apparently all of them, for their own reasons, will just roll over and do nothing, or even attack the people raising the questions.
I don’t know whether BHO is qualified or not, but it’s obvious he’s hiding something. It may be nothing more than a politically embarrassing story. But there is some reason he doesn’t want people to see this birth certificate.
Hmmm. Do you suppose it mentions a tanning bed?
BTW, you shouldn’t call people conspiracy theorists for wanting to see evidence. That should be reserved for people who reject evidence in favor of, you know, conspiracy theories.
tom on December 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Ed has shown his true colors here and Ed, this isn’t going away just for the simple fact that Obama REFUSES to present his original birth certificate which would have ended this mess LONG ago. Ed, you have better PRAY that these idiots DEMOCRATS that have been suing Obama over something as simple as a birth certificate, haven’t become the blind squirrels who stumbled onto an ACORN or the country will have an exponentially bigger constitutional crisis on its hands than if Obama was proved to be unqualified before he takes office.
This isn’t 911 conspiracy crap, where most everything that happened, happened in full view of the public on T.V. and even a teenager can debunk, this is the U.S. Constitution that 80% of Americans can’t read or understand because it’s written in proper English.
I doubt if these suits will stop anytime soon and for the SCOTUS to refuse to put this issue to rest by requiring Obama to present his original birth certificate to the court is absurd, for Obama to continually fight to be absolved from presenting such a simple document is absurd.
Obama may well be a natural born citizen, he probably is but the Certificate of Live Birth posted on the internet is as fraudulent as the day is long, which, if used by Obama to obtain a passport or many other forms of I.D., would land Obama in prison under various fraud charges. It’s difficult to serve as President from a jail cell isn’t it?
nelsonknows on December 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM
+1
+1
Got Damnn there are some outstanding comments today.
wise_man on December 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM
I can’t blame the Supreme Court in a way, since if he is proven ineligible at this point, it would mean a country wide civic meltdown. I can almost say it isn’t worth the destruction it would cause, and let the election stand and in the future ensure it never happens again.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM
You must not understand the term standing. Alan Keyes was on the ballot and was harmed if in fact Obama was ineligible to be on the ballot. Do a little research before you start name-calling.
txsurveyor on December 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I like these pictures of celebrity politicians riding behind tinted bullet proof glass limousine windows.
chunderroad on December 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Could be a third – Obama jr. is not the son of Obama Sr. which makes his whole back story – bio bogus.
Wander on December 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM
See, you guys should do a little research before posting, it gets embarrassing reading your ill informed posts.
First, they did officially state that what was on the COLB was accurate, when asked specifically if “Obama was born in Hawaii, the official spokesperson stated “Yes, he was born in Hawaii”. That was from the official spokesperson from the state of Hawaii…both verbally and in an email for confirmation.
Second: You seem to have just happen to leave off a couple of important details about the $3….you pay the $3, but you have to have reason to amend, and on the amended COLB, the original information is struck out
struck outso the changes can be easily determined…oops just a little oversight on your part.And, have you or anyone ever seen a COLB, where the person was born out of Hawaii but listed as born in Hawaii? NO? Because it doesn’t exist, there has never been one found, out of the 10′s of millions born in Hawaii over the past 50 years, Obama’s would have been the first ever.
Gee, your arguments don’t look so reasonable now, do they?
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM
esthier wrote
I almost get the impression that you would have to throw Morrissey and ALLAHPUNDIT into that group since they are SOOOO EAGER to see this legitimate question concerning Obama’s qualification for being president cast aside.
After reading their posts on HotAir about this matter which do you guys think Ed and ALLAHPUNDIT are more concerned about?
A) Whether or not Obama is a natural born US citizen and qualified to run for president?
OR
B) Looking like a “nut” and being compared to “9/11 truthers” by raising the question and exercixing our right to have it addressed by the Supreme Court and other courts across the USA?
Its quite clearly B that they are most concerned about. The US Constitution can be thrown in the trash as long as Ed and ALLAHPUNDIT don’t appear as “nuts” to the libtards and the moderate libtards in the media.
TheMightyQuinn on December 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I think they’re both in the C group, which includes those of us who don’t believe that the verification of the eligibility of a presidential candidate lies in the purview of anonymous internet commenters, but in the government agencies who actually are responsible for that.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Phillip Berg has become the poster boy for the proverbial boy that cried wolf. Something is amiss but because Berg cried wolf so many times over nutbag conspiracies like 911, he’s taken the credibility from anyone asking a validly asked question requiring Constitutional validation.
I predicted 911 conspiracy freaks would damage this country five years ago and now we see it.
nelsonknows on December 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM
No sense to you…
First, he was asked to provide an official document, he did that. Happen to be one that has been used for over 50 in Hawaii, and is accepted, and has been, as the official birth document by every state agency and every country in the world. He doesn’t need anything but that, every person born in Hawaii uses the exact same document, it has never been questioned before in over 50 years.
Where did you get that $5-800,000 figure?…someone once even posted that he had armed guards at every hospital.
Link on that money figure please…
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:22 PM
You folks are way off base. Yes yes, AP and Edward shake in their boots, worrying about what the midstream media thinks about them.
The left has already thought HA as absurd since it’s inception.
Man, these assertions are growing in their ridiculousness.
blatantblue on December 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM
That isn’t true from what I have read. Department of Homeland Security doesn’t accept the COLB as a valid birth certificate.
DFCtomm on December 17, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Can I see that please?
wise_man on December 17, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Well, you stopped Googling too soon…the official spokesperson then answered a specific question.
“Does that mean Obama was born in Hawaii?”, “Yes, Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, hopefully this will put an end to the speculation”…
Your research fell short.
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:28 PM
It is all over the internet, or you can knock on his door and he will show it to you…duhhhh!
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Why? Ed only plays a conservative on TV. In actuality he is a squishy moderate moral relativist who would rather give in then have conflict.
peacenprosperity on December 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM
I’m a bit confused. The only think that I know that “Hawaii officials” have said is that the Certification of Live Birth” produced by BHO is authentic. Okay. So? What does that mean? It surely doesn’t mean that this is proof that BHO was born in Hawaii. It only means that someone in his family said he was born in Hawaii within 1 year of his birth.
The questions about Ed’s conservationism comes from 1) he attacks those of us who simply want someone unbiased to see a vaulted copy of BHO’s birth certificate 2)up holding the Constitution doesn’t seem to be an important issue in this discussion and 3) few seem alarmed that US Citizens don’t have “standing” to question whether the Constitution is being upheld.
katablog.com on December 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Thanks for your input, Mrs. Morrissey.
peacenprosperity on December 17, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Yes it does, that would mean no Hawaii could use the COLB ID to travel…look on the official site, it is accepted.
Don’t rely on rumors, look it up.
One guy on here even tried to say officially Obama couldn’t get a drivers license with a COLB, a simple check on the website destroyed that rumor…but the guy still said he was correct, such is the mind of “believer”, don’t let facts get in your way.
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:31 PM
When the going gets tough he doesn’t want to offend anyone.
peacenprosperity on December 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM
No, the official said specifically Obama was born in Hawaii, that probably means he was born in Hawaii.
And what is that 1 year of birth garbage…
right2bright on December 17, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Ed’s a conservationist? He’s a member of the Audubon Society?
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Thank you for your input, Dr. Paul.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM
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