Remarriage is adultery.
A constant state of sin.

Not if the divorce was due to adultery/unfaithfulness:
“I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.” – Matthew 19:9

Maybe you should, I don’t know, actual READ the scripture before you pretend to be a teacher of it.

You ducked. Then, you punted (I saw it coming a mile away).

Funny of way of putting the inability for anyone of us to truly know what lies in the hearts of people.

But, then I guess you must have super-secret psychic powers!

Not.
Worth.
My.
Time.

I realize that actually LEARNING theology is a waste of your time.

I figured that out when you claimed the Bible was originally written in English.

Again – before you come into a discussion on a subject you should actually KNOW what you’re talking about.

Until then, you’re just another false teacher professing knowledge yet possesses nothing.

How’s that fruit you’re bearing? Seems kind of rotten and bitter to me.

All I CAN tell you is that divorce is a one-time sin and can be forgiven and moved on from

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Remarriage is adultery.
A constant state of sin.
You ducked. Then, you punted (I saw it coming a mile away).

Just as I thought. Church Ladys are often cowards when put under the bright lights.

Again – you will know a tree by the fruit it bears.

I know when I’m casting pearls before the (cowardly) swine.

Not.
Worth.
My.
Time.

Church Lady.

did Ronald Reagan (or Bob Dole, or John McCain) commit to Christ or are they headed for eternal damnation, in your opinion. And to bypass the minutia, there are only two possible answers: yes or no.

No, there is one other possible answer: I don’t know because I don’t know the state of their heart.

And what’s with this preoccupation with Regan?

The disposition of his soul is a matter between him and God.

All I CAN tell you is that divorce is a one-time sin and can be forgiven and moved on from.

Living in a gay-marriage is a constant state of sin and can only be forgiven if one repents and moves out of the marriage.

BTW, I think the language was aramaic

No, it wasn’t.

Maybe before you decide to debate theology…

…you should actually KNOW what you’re talking about.

Again – you will know a tree by the fruit it bears.

What kind of fruit have you been bearing?

Ah, yes, nothing like proving one’s Christian ‘bona fides’ by swearing at someone you disagree with.

I don’t have to prove my Christianity to any human, least of all you. That’s the problem with the Church Lady types, they’re always judging. Here’s a tip: you’re in no position to judge anyone. Folks like you do little other than hurt the cause. Oh, you tell yourself how much more of a Christian you are than those who don’t bear the ‘fruit’ that you deem acceptable, but you’re part of the reason that so many people disdain Christians.

BTW, I think the language was aramaic (hence the need for King James to have it translated) but it’s not that big a deal. I’m not trying to hammer someone under my holier-than-thou thumb.

So, which is it, yes or no? The readers at Hot Air might be interested in learning that Ron is already in hell & Nancy is soon headed in that direction.

You’ll let us know of the person who stops sinning, right?

Continue as in willfully choosing to continue one’s sins.

We all sin – but those who commit their lives to Christ do their best to STOP sinning.

BTW, your logic dictates that Ronald Reagan couldn’t commit his life to Christ, being an adulterer & all that until the day he died

My “logic” dictates no such thing.

Sorry, I (and the bible, which isn’t greek by the way) don’t subscribe to the theory that a sinner cannot commit to Christ.

The New Testament was originally written in Greek.

Or do you really think Jesus walked around Israel speaking in King James English?

You also continue to miss the point.

Sinners can commit to Christ.

Unrepentant sinners, though, prove that they HAVEN’T committed to Christ.

A good #2 is pulling the burr out of your a$$ and reading the second most important commandment, according to Christ.

rjwest21 on December 17, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Ah, yes, nothing like proving one’s Christian ‘bona fides’ by swearing at someone you disagree with.

Yes, you will know a person by the fruit they bear.

…you can’t commit your life to Christ IF you continue in your sinful ways.

You’ll let us know of the person who stops sinning, right?
Heck, the first tenant of being a Christian is ADMITTING that you’re a sinner.

BTW, your logic dictates that Ronald Reagan couldn’t commit his life to Christ, being an adulterer & all that until the day he died (both he & Nancy were on marriage #2. Sorry, I (and the bible, which isn’t greek by the way) don’t subscribe to the theory that a sinner cannot commit to Christ. And since you’re hip deep in judging others (a no-no according to J to the C), neither do you.

Step number one is admitting one is a sinner. A good #2 is pulling the burr out of your a$$ and reading the second most important commandment, according to Christ.

Am I going to have to resort to home school? I really don’t want to have socially inept children.

Christina D on December 17, 2008 at 1:16 AM

As an ex-teacher, I can tell you that the most socially adept children I have met are home schooled. The only way to have socially inept children is if you refuse to let them play sports and clubs.

Then again, all this is mute if you consider socially adept children those who can use the F-bomb in a sentence multiple times. Let me list the following things that happened in my last year of teaching:

-14+ girls became pregnant (all were under 16 years old.)
-3 became heavily addicted to drugs.
-8+ were arrested.
-20+ were suspended throughout the year for fights.
-1 girl was suspended for giving head in the hall (guy was too, but I didn’t have him in my class).
-Countless cell phones/ipods were taken due to them having porn on them.

Yup, that is what I want my children’s social interaction to be like.

I just want to clarify so we can see if there is room for open serious debate or if this is one-sided.

grdred944 on December 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Judging by your comments…

…”serious” debate is not one of your forte’s.

Semantics? While you are browsing through your ‘Word A Day’ clippings

Ah, projection in all its glory.

Just because you had to look up the word, it doesn’t mean I had to. It’s not even a big word. I could prove my English creds by going grammar troll on all your posts, but I prefer to instruct people who can actually process what I’m sending them.

I didn’t realize you’d argue nothing but semantics. That got old for me in high school, and the argument hasn’t aged well.

Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Semantics? While you are browsing through your ‘Word A Day’ clippings see if you can match what it means to attribute words to other people with no basis. If you can come up with a correct word before Xmas you get the cookie.

As for this topic, I am done. I look forward to your trolls in other topics you know nothing of and hope you have a Kwazy Kwanza.

This is going to be filed in the same tray as:

Only for the grammatically challenged.

And to your second point, I didn’t ask anyone to meet a standard. Where do you pull this stuff from? Go ahead and quote what I wrote earlier in this thread. I’d like an answer still.

grdred944 on December 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM

I didn’t realize you’d argue nothing but semantics. That got old for me in high school, and the argument hasn’t aged well.

You don’t have to say the word “all” in order to include all Christians. It’s a superlative word in the sentence you typed.
Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 12:33 PM

LOL — how many shows a night do you do? This is going to be filed in the same tray as:

“It depends on what the meaning of the words ‘is’ is.” –Bill Clinton

And to your second point, I didn’t ask anyone to meet a standard. Where do you pull this stuff from? Go ahead and quote what I wrote earlier in this thread. I’d like an answer still.

It ends up that more and more people simply don’t get married at all anymore. Gay or straight. Game set match.

kirkill on December 17, 2008 at 12:23 PM

How is that match? The argument is that people should be able to do what they want, and if less people are choosing to marry, that’s on them.

But I wasn’t arguing the validity of gay marriage. I was only using the argument to make a point about the validity of other denied marriages.

At that point they can do what they want to do and no one is to oppose it. Acceptance of homosexuallity is one of those front issues that they want society to view as “normal”… gay marriage is just the front for this.

If gay marriage becomes the norm of the society… what is next on their list of acceptance… the killing of unborn children has already passed this line of acceptance in our modern society.

What WILL HAPPEN… and mark these words… any opposition to this and you will be marked a “HATER”. Christians who stand by God given values will be known as “HATERS”.

HATERS… get used to seeing that word used by those pushing for this “lowest common denominator” society.

All?

Yes, all.

What do Christians do for their ’stroke material’? Oh, they just break a couple commandments with their neighbor’s wife and take that act out of the equation.

grdred944 on December 15, 2008 at 5:30 PM

That’s what Christians do, right? You don’t have to say the word “all” in order to include all Christians. It’s a superlative word in the sentence you typed.

Not that credibility is an issue for you but you would have more if you would be even-handed.

And that was my problem with you. You’re asking others to meet a standard you haven’t held yourself to.

no more harmful to my marriage than a gay marriage is.

Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 11:42 AM

To “your” marriage. But to the overall institute of marriage it is very harmful. Which is why you only have to look at the experiment as it is played out in countries that have gay marriage. It ends up that more and more people simply don’t get married at all anymore. Gay or straight. Game set match.

“Is there any system of governance or economics that can withstand rampant corruption or self-entitlement? … Has the astounding success of American capitalism spawned people who consider themselves completely removed from the ethical guidelines that govern mere mortals? Has the wholesale abandonment of religion for secularism produced a moral vacuum? … No system can survive when its prime movers and shakers are fundamentally corrupt — most especially when they don’t consider themselves to be so.” –columnist Arnold Ahlert

Says the poster who accused all Christians of adultery…

Esthier on December 17, 2008 at 11:30 AM

All? Where was your reply to the original poster of that topic? I missed your assertion of his blanket assertion regarding readers of Playboy. Not that credibility is an issue for you but you would have more if you would be even-handed. I never said ‘all.’

Now are you interested in this topic or are you going to continue to troll the site looking to slap at those who you have disagreed with on past issues? My guess is trolling comes easier for you.

Well, what about the NAMBLA crowd? Can’t a man marry a 14 year old boy? I mean, he obviously loves him…

kirkill on December 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Age of consent laws would have to be lowered first. Your better argument is something like adult consensual incest. Most people are creeped out by it, but it’s no more harmful to my marriage than a gay marriage is.

I just want to clarify so we can see if there is room for open serious debate or if this is one-sided.

grdred944 on December 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Says the poster who accused all Christians of adultery…

Still pissed I stole your gal away, huh?

Sheesh. Wisconsinonianites are so predictable.

wccawa on December 16, 2008 at 11:25 PM

I miss those fights between you and MadCon over tickledragon. They were so much fun to read. Aah, the good old days.

To me, gay marrage is absurd. It is an affront to nature itself. It is painfully obvious to me that males and females were made differently, and natures way for reproduction and mateing is crystal clear. To elevate and legitimize perverted behavior is nuts.

Stay in the closet please.

saiga on December 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM

So the government’s singular role in all of this is to permit marriage among so-called straights to promote mating? Is that really the role government should take on?

Or at the very least, let the REAL theologians engage and dispatch these heretics.

Religious_Zealot on December 17, 2008 at 12:35 AM

‘Real’ meaning those theologians whose beliefs are shared by you and those like you? I just want to clarify so we can see if there is room for open serious debate or if this is one-sided.

The ONLY reason it’s an issue at all, is because gays want to destroy the part of marriage that is a Christian institution in America.