Pelosi smells blood

posted at 1:43 pm on December 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

When Barack Obama selected Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, critics booed Obama’s apparent move towards the kind of bare-knuckle partisan politics for which Emanuel is known.  Others theorized that Emanuel would actually serve more to keep hyperpartisan Democrats in line, running interference for Obama as he pursued a centrist policy in Congress.  With the Rod Blagojevich scandal dogging Emanuel at the moment, Nancy Pelosi seems to have sensed weakness in Emanuel’s position, and she has pushed hard at Team Obama instead:

In talks with Emanuel and others, sources say, Pelosi has “set parameters” for what she wants from Barack Obama and his White House staff — no surprises, and no backdoor efforts to go around her and other Democratic leaders by cutting deals with moderate New Democrats or conservative Blue Dogs.

Specifically, Pelosi has told Emanuel that she wants to know when representatives of the incoming administration have any contact with her rank-and-file Democrats — and why, sources say.

During the Bush years, the White House set policy, and Republicans on Capitol Hill were expected to follow it. Former Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) occasionally lashed out at former White House chief of staff Andy Card or other senior administration aides when he felt they had gone too far. But in general, Republican lawmakers followed Bush’s lead on every major legislative battle, from Iraq to tax and spending bills to anti-terror policies. With the exception of immigration reform, the House fight over the $700 billion Wall Street bailout package and last week’s meltdown over a bailout for the Big Three automakers, Bush got what he wanted from Congress, especially within his own party.

Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) are signaling that they won’t tolerate a repeat with a Democrat in the White House and Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

Obama hasn’t yet been sworn into office, and we already have the makings of a power play.  Somehow, I doubt Team Obama will sit still for this, although they probably won’t get terribly confrontational about it, either.  They won’t ask permission to contact members of Congress from either Pelosi or Reid, and they shouldn’t; after all, they have as much right to vent as do the constituents, and a lot more authority behind it.

This does, though, highlight some dissonance in expectations of an Obama administration.  Pelosi wouldn’t make this demand if she thought Obama would produce a progressive agenda in line with her own.  It seems to indicate that Pelosi is very worried that Obama will move to the center on a broad range of issues and attempt to co-opt the Blue Dogs and some moderates to form alliances with Republicans.  If Obama really wants to win re-election in 2012, he’ll have to do some of this, and will wind up defying the Left enough to make Pelosi feel uncomfortable.

Does Pelosi have enough juice to make this stick?  In a word, no.  The elections after November 4th, in Georgia and Louisiana, show that Democrats without Obama on the ticket and in their corner perform terribly, even in what should have been a good year for them.  If Pelosi and Reid push too hard, Obama simply will become very selective in his politicking at the mid-terms, or take the more traditional role and stay out of the Congressional elections altogether.  A significant loss in 2010 could undermine Pelosi even while keeping a majority, although Reid looks to be on firmer ground in the Senate.

Emanuel is just the hatchet man.  Obama wields the power in this administration, and if he doesn’t get what he wants, he has less to lose than Pelosi.

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Which socialist will win?

jukin on December 16, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Specifically, Pelosi has told Emanuel that she wants to know when representatives of the incoming administration have any contact with her rank-and-file Democrats — and why, sources say.

Man that gal has a big ego. I may dislike her even more than Lightworker. At least he pretends to listen to other viewpoints

Y-not on December 16, 2008 at 1:46 PM

This is like a battle between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, can we send weapons to both?

No matter who gets hurt, it will be good for the American people.

NoDonkey on December 16, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Harry smells blood too. He just asked if a Tourist was menstruating.

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

So, does this mean C-SPAN will soon have a separate channel called Democrat(socialist) Death-Match? Popcorn’s already poppin’….

dmh0667 on December 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM

I guess it’s just part of the cost of doing business Chicago style.

snaggletoothie on December 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Pelosi must be a racist.

MB4 on December 16, 2008 at 1:53 PM

This is like a battle between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, can we send weapons to both?

No matter who gets hurt, it will be good for the American people.

NoDonkey on December 16, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Wow, just three posts in this thread and already we have a winner ! +100

BHO will rule the day… Nancy and Harry will do as he wishes or wish they had… the far left is in panic.
Community organizers can work against Reid and Pill-Head also, and they know it… Remember, they are both “white”.

Mark Garnett on December 16, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Pelosi must also be an anti-Semite.

MB4 on December 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM

When is Pelosi going to give up her Private Jet? That woman is a ruthless bitc*! No bones about it.

sheebe on December 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Pelosi smells blood.

whitetop on December 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Yeah, well Nancy doesn’t ken Chicago politics. Harry Reid? Well he comes from Chicago-West, aka Las Vegas, so he understands. The question is, will Harry help Nancy or not?

SeniorD on December 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Giving orders to a POTUS with as big an ego as Obarfy? I sense a world class catfight in the making.

Bishop on December 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Harry smells blood too. He just asked if a Tourist was menstruating reached for the Preparation H.

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

FIFY

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Pelosi obviously does not think a black man can handle being a President.
Another indication that liberals think blacks are there to shine their shoes.
Or…she just thinks he is not as capable as Bush…
Which is more repulsive to a liberal…

right2bright on December 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Pelosi, like any proper leader, sensed weakness in Obama. Obama should response with a naval blockade and a statement that any nuclear attack against the US will be considered an attack by Pelosi on Obama.

pedestrian on December 16, 2008 at 2:01 PM

This is what the ‘good’ madam smells.

Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds — dealing with his boss’ vacant Senate seat!

A lot of chit-chat?

Hot air?

Or trouble?

• • To date: Rahm’s been mum. Stay tuned.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Change you can believe in.

Princeps on December 16, 2008 at 2:02 PM

It’s excellent that Pelosi is worried about the possibility of Obama and Emanual making “backdoor efforts to go around her and other Democratic leaders by cutting deals with moderate New Democrats or conservative Blue Dogs.” I never would thought this was a possibility before election day.

thuja on December 16, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Harry smells blood too…

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Nah, he just pretends to. Cadavres don’t smell a thing, but they do stink.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) are signaling that they won’t tolerate a repeat with a Democrat in the White House and Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

La, la, la, la, la, la, la. Begin to count how often they’ll vote against their One. Risible!

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

It’s really a difference between a cutthroat Democratic pol (Emmanuel) who is strategically savvy when it comes to the Clintonian-like act of triangulation and securing seats for the party in Red States, which then allows them to control Congress; and a cutthroat ditz (Pelosi) who holds one of the safest Democratic seats in the nation and thinks she can make her regal proclamations on a far left agenda favored by her San Francisco voters, which the Blue Dog Democrats would both obediently follow along with and pay no price at the voting booth in 2010.

Republicans and conservatives probably should be rooting for Pelosi here from a strategic standpoint, and it would be an easy call to make if you could guarantee her attempt to institute her agenda would be a two-year clusterfark. But just in case she did turn out to be both ruthless and competent enough to get her agenda passed, the country’s probably better off if Rahm survives the Blago scandal.

jon1979 on December 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

When is Pelosi going to give up her Private Jet? That woman is a ruthless bitc*! No bones about it.

sheebe on December 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM

*

Seriously, doesn’t it make you sick that Pelosi and Reid can put their grubby crooked hands in your pocket and grab your money?

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

I never would thought this was a possibility before election day.

thuja on December 16, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Get over yourself, or this ‘idealism’. It ain’t going to happen. Also, Emanuel might not even be there.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Ew.

chunderroad on December 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM

**Here it comes!**

Rahm’s calls on tape
The Blago scandal . . .

December 16, 2008
BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds — dealing with his boss’ vacant Senate seat!

Y-not on December 16, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Seriously, doesn’t it make you sick that Pelosi and Reid can put their grubby crooked hands in your pocket and grab your money?

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Blame only who needs to be blamed – the majority of the American public. Any other excuse is futile.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Does Pelosi have enough juice to make this stick?

A skillful politician in Pelosi’s position could impose his or her will with the hand Pelosi holds. However, if Pelosi has proved one thing during her tenure as House Speaker, its that she’s utterly incompetent as a political operator. So stand by for Pelosi to end up with egg on her face, repeatedly.

Cicero43 on December 16, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Never interrupt your opponent when he’s making a mistake.

And thus emerges the Conservative strategy for the next 4 years……to encourage tension between the WH and the Congress. Let them smack each other around, and provide the “impetus” for them to do so by showing one the others’ mud and dirty laundry.

BobMbx on December 16, 2008 at 2:09 PM

I’ve never actually seen a jello-wrestling match in person but it might actually be fun to see Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, et.al. stripped down and in the pool ready to… DAMN!!!, just had a mental image of that. Forget it. Carry on.

Yoop on December 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Y-not, read thread, further up :)

Quote of the year

• • To date: Rahm’s been mum. Stay tuned.

The verbose, hyper-hiped, foul-mouthed Mr. Rahm Emanuel has been mum…for, heh, since this all broke. Psychology 101 :)

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:11 PM

well, I guess Biden was right. The One is being “tested” by America’s enemies!

Goody2Shoes on December 16, 2008 at 2:12 PM

2010-12 can’t come fast enough!

christene on December 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Seriously, doesn’t it make you sick that Pelosi and Reid can put their grubby crooked hands in your pocket and grab your money?

marklmail on December 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Democrats wanted to limit the pay of executives, so they inserted a provision stipulating that any firm taking TARP funds had to restrict executive compensation. But the administration insisted on adding a sentence saying the restriction only applied to firms selling their troubled assets to the government, thus gutting the restriction since the funds have never been used for that – its stated – purpose.

This tells us that we are as farked by the right, as we are always farked by the left. We’re really doomed by kleptomaniacs.

The whores are still us, for letting them do this to us, volens.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:15 PM

In talks with Emanuel and others, sources say, Pelosi has “set parameters” for what she wants from Barack Obama and his White House staff — no surprises, and no backdoor efforts to go around her and other Democratic leaders by cutting deals with moderate New Democrats or conservative Blue Dogs.

Holy crap.

BallisticBob on December 16, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Blame only who needs to be blamed – the majority of the American public. Any other excuse is futile.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 2:08 PM

If Republican leaders had stuck to conservative principles and defended those principles to the public, then the public wouldn’t have sent Republicans to their time-out.

pedestrian on December 16, 2008 at 2:17 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if O brings both Pelosi and Reid down with some scandal (and I’m sure there are probably many to choose from) if either of them dare get in his way.

Done That on December 16, 2008 at 2:19 PM

I noticed that Obama, Pelosi and Reid had the gall to stand behind a sign that said:

HONEST LEADERSHIP
OPEN GOVERNMENT

That sign ought to be have a few cracks in it as well.

INC on December 16, 2008 at 2:19 PM

If the Witch thinks she can get over on Don Obama, she might be swimming with the fishes by Christmas.

notagool on December 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM

“It talks!”

“Aye. It’s gettin’ ‘er to shut up that’s the trick…”

mojo on December 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Perfectly fine for Pelosi to dictate to the Representatives in her Party that they should report contacts from the White House, but certainly not fine for her to order another branch of the Government to abrogate its Constitutional rights to freely speak to members of Congress.

Pelosi can vent, but I doubt anyone will listen, even in the House.

unclesmrgol on December 16, 2008 at 2:25 PM

She should throw her shoes at him…dog!

AmericanUnderground on December 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Yes, Mommy Dearest. Resistance is futile.

Limerick on December 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM

I have a feeling that Obambi and Tsar Nancy are going to have a knock down, drag out bareknuckle brawl before it’s all said and done. Perhaps Hallelujah Harry can be the referee.

Percy_Peabody on December 16, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Pelosi wouldn’t make this demand if she thought Obama would produce a progressive agenda in line with her own. It seems to indicate that Pelosi is very worried that Obama will move to the center on a broad range of issues and attempt to co-opt the Blue Dogs and some moderates to form alliances with Republicans.

If Pelosi pushes things too far left, bills that pass the House could be filibustered in the Senate, and House Republicans might be able to able to peel off enough Blue Dogs and moderate Democrats to form a temporary “working majority” that could skirt Pelosi but pass the Senate with Republican support. If there’s really an ideological divide between Pelosi and the Blue Dogs, or Pelosi and Obama (less likely), House Republicans, despite their slim numbers, should do their best to exploit it.

By 2010, with Congressional elections looming and no Obama coattails, Blue Dogs might be fleeing Pelosi and running for cover. But in the meantime, we need to find strong candidates to challenge them.

Steve Z on December 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I’m beginning to think we should have all supported Cindy Sheehan’s candidacy for Pelosi’s seat. The idiotic voters in San Francisco are dumb enough to have voted for that moonbat, if she had had some resources to get her “message” out.

Webrider on December 16, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Obama wields the power in this administration

just to comment that this seems a bit redundant and silly. Obama would BE the power in the OBAMA administration. I don’t think Pelosi grasps that yet. And I actually am looking forward to seeing what Obama does. He might be the greatest president ever. Cut expenses and limit government and he could put the future of this nation back on track. The R’s certainly couldn’t do it.

Maybe he could start by ending the war on drugs and taxing formerly illegal controlled substances.

But of course, that’s only a 150 billion dollar a year idea (income to the government) that has zero political support.

ThackerAgency on December 16, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Never interrupt your opponent when he’s making a mistake.

And thus emerges the Conservative strategy for the next 4 years……to encourage tension between the WH and the Congress. Let them smack each other around, and provide the “impetus” for them to do so by showing one the others’ mud and dirty laundry.

BobMbx on December 16, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Operation CHAOS The Sequel. Coming to a theater near you. Playing NOW !!

redrock on December 16, 2008 at 2:43 PM

“But of course, that’s only a 150 billion dollar a year idea (income to the government) that has zero political support.”

That would only cost about $150 billion in lost work days, crime, etc.

And don’t tell me that if it’s priced correctly, that people won’t have to steal to buy it.

Easy access to drugs = people who don’t care about going to work, taking care of their children, maintaining a home or about anything except drugs.

Besides, what drugs are you going to legalize? Marijuana? Heroin? Cocaine? Crack Cocaine? Meth?

Because if you don’t legalize them all, you still have all of the problems associated with the ones you haven’t legalized. Because people always want what they can’t get.

And don’t tell me about Europe. We have a starkly different population that they have in Europe.

I don’t believe that the war on drugs is any raging success, but I also think that legalizing the junk would bring forth far more problems than anyone could possibly realize.

NoDonkey on December 16, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Madam Queen hath spoken….!!!!

DL13 on December 16, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Ooooh…. THIS is good, really good.

I always suspected that Pelosi wanted BO to win because he’s a rookie compared to Hillary. Besides, there isn’t enough room in DC for those two gals.

Now that BO has a weak spot defined early on Pelosi is ready to start dictating to him. This should be interesting.

/where’s that fine Bourbon?

Cody1991 on December 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM

The thing Nancy smells is her breath blowing back in her face.

Sasnak on December 16, 2008 at 2:55 PM

“Pelosi wouldn’t make this demand if she thought Obama would produce a progressive agenda in line with her own. ”

Pelosi wouldn’t make this demand if she thought Obama was a strong personality. What is just another indication that Obama is really someone else’s puppet, and Pelosi knows it.

A Speaker dictating policy to the President?

crosspatch on December 16, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Pelosi’s seat is secure, no matter how f*** up she does or doesn’t do. Obama has the second term to think about.

One word for Pelosi: you think you are better at playing the game than the Clintons?
Think which one the Americans go for? Yep, Obama trumped HRC, it will happen to you, too, if you squeeze The One too tightly.

Sir Napsalot on December 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Pelosi has the weak hand (as demonstrated over the last 23 months), but has her 1 shot at retaining her power given the Blago-rama

phreshone on December 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Pelosi, Emanuel, and Obama, three pigs in a poke. Reid is the perpetually frowning feeder of garbage to those three.

rlwo2008 on December 16, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Rezko chirps…and chirps…and sings…and some arses are running scared. I can’t wait for the next chapter in this ‘book’.

Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Which socialist will win?

jukin on December 16, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Like Hitler invading Russia.

Count to 10 on December 16, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Woman with sub-20% approval rating pulls power-play with newly elected incoming President…?!?!?!

Nancy is a complete idiot.

PersonalLiberty on December 16, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Most ethical Congress and POTUS-Elect EVAH!
I’m lovin’ it. Make it a Cage match, best two out of three falls. Pass the popcorn.

kingsjester on December 16, 2008 at 3:39 PM

ThackerAgency on December 16, 2008 at 2:38 PM

By your argument, anyone could be the greatest president ever.
Berry has the problem that, in order to avoid being terrible, he has to go back on everything he campaigned on.

Count to 10 on December 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM

How many times has Speaker Pelosi demanded the sun, the stars, and the moon, and then was forced by Bush, and public opinion, to abandon her demands and settle for everything under the sun?

Skandia Recluse on December 16, 2008 at 3:44 PM

The Most Unified Democratic Party…………EVUH!

Riiiiiiiight.

pilamaye on December 16, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Say what you want, but from jumbo-jets to intimidating The One, this Biatch has balls.

Can’t wait to see her go down in flaming glory.

Falconsword on December 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Ed,

Only true if the whole Blogo thing does not damage Obama to the point he does not survive 2012. It could turn out that way. If there is sufficient damage prior to 2010 he won’t have any coat tails. If O can’t perform at all during his term he’s toast.

Dr. Dog on December 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM

the woman is obviously mental, and deranged, if she really demanded that of the White House. A nice little glimpse into how fragile her power really is among the rank and file.

The Democratic Caucus is large but it is not cohered together…there are many differences on substantive matters of policy and without a common enemy in George Bush, what is their purpose? What is their driving force?

The battle to decide that question started on November 5th and all the players mentioned in this post have different answers and all expect to be heeded first.

gippergal1984 on December 16, 2008 at 4:14 PM

I guess his middle name can be Jimmy, then.

Vashta.Nerada on December 16, 2008 at 4:19 PM

She’s just doing what she & Reid have been doing for years with Bush- staking out her turf, ineffectually.

They draw a line in the sand, hoping it won’t be crossed. When it is crossed (about half the time?), they protest loudly just before giving up that they will… never give up.

After the line is crossed, they retreat and draw another line further back in the sand.

And on and on it goes.

cs89 on December 16, 2008 at 4:52 PM

They have plenty rope now. Who will dangle first?

oakpack on December 16, 2008 at 5:29 PM

…Pelosi in a Mexican death match with Emanuel…sort of like a weasel going at a hyena…you hope that they kill eachother, if only to have a little quiet…being rid of both of them is a perk….

…it’s gonna get ideologically ugly down in Foggy Bottom…and the big scandals — built on a mixture of hubris and appetite — have yet to hit!

Puritan1648 on December 16, 2008 at 5:42 PM

The comics keep saying that no one can be humorous about Obama and his merry men. They should visit these Hot Air message boards for material. The humor in here is brilliant and I enjoy every visit. Thanks.

UnEasyRider on December 16, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Nancy is a complete idiot.

PersonalLiberty on December 16, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Ahhh, Yeahh, but the gentle folks here in the PRC keep reelecting her. Go figure.

N4646W on December 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM

I agree with you about the humor here. I think the reason we won’t see this kind of humor out there on the late night shows, etc., is because it requires a BRAIN and intelligence to appreciate. The average American is too dumb to appreciate the finesse presented by the posters and fans of this site.

karenhasfreedom on December 16, 2008 at 7:37 PM

SO, I gues you don’t have to be a Chicagoan to practice politics Chicago Style.

44Magnum on December 16, 2008 at 8:29 PM

I’m wondering if she is worried about a repeat of the Blue Dogs not catering to her whims. After all, if they allow goBernment to go mega-liberal they might find themselves out of a job in 2 short years.

DannoJyd on December 16, 2008 at 10:20 PM

More popcorn.
More beer.
More ammo…especially more ammo!

SKYFOX on December 17, 2008 at 4:56 AM