Oh and before I forget: Two villages, one in Greenland and one in Europe have just emerged from receding glacial ice. I have explained the significance to the logically challenged libtards around me.

1. It was obviously warmer globally before the villages were constructed.
2. There were no man made greenhouse gases to cause the warmer temperatures.
3. There were a lot less people at the time.
4. It got cold and they left their tools expecting to come back the following spring, except its now like 400-600 years later…

Hmmmm….could be why they call it Greenland, and not “that F****** cold place”.

How will we deal with the horror of Greenland turning green, again!

Why?

catmman on December 17, 2008 at 9:00 AM

Because we have to put them in charge now. It is all important to have the “right” people in charge now in order to save the planet a thousand years from now. The main reason is that we need the people from now because future generations will be so profoundly stupid that they will never be able to take care of themselves never mind the planet. It’s also well known that all that will ever be invented and ever can be invented has already been invented. In other words we as humans are at the apex of our technological abilities and the “right” people know this and have to be put in charge now. Don’t you understand that they desperately need to reduce the population to sustainable levels, restrict technology and reduce us all to third world societies with them living in luxury to save us all? The best part of this is that we well never ever know if what they do will work. We have to take their word at face value and with ultimate faith that they are indeed the prophets they say they are. So lets make them lords over us and worship them as they so deserve because they “know” the “truth” and are the “right” people to save us from our sins. Of course if it doesn’t work out and all it accomplished was to grant ultimate power to the “right” people we could never make them pay for their wicked ways because like us they will be long dead before their prophecies are fulfilled.

I’ll like to propose this. We do what they want but every single one of the “right” people can not ever profit from it in any way other then the knowledge that they saved the world. They can not have power, money or position. They mush fade into the masses they so wish to dominate. Better yet are they willing to die for their cause? Are they willing to be executed after they have put everything in place to save our future? I’m betting that a very few would agree to one or both of those because the majority know it is a scam to riches and power.

Why?

catmman on December 17, 2008 at 9:00 AM

Because we have to put them in charge now. It is all important to have the “right” people in charge now in order to save the planet a thousand years from now. The main reason is that we need the people from now because future generations will be so profoundly stupid that they will never be able to take care of themselves never mind the planet. Also it’s well known that all that will ever be invented and ever can be invented has already been invented. In other words we as humans are at the apex of our technological abilities and the “right” people know this and have to be put in charge now. Don’t you understand that they desperately need to reduce the population to sustainable levels, restrict technology and reduce us all to third world societies with them living in luxury to save us all? The best part of this is that we well never ever know if what they do will work. We have to take their word at face value and with ultimate faith that they are indeed the prophets they say they are. So lets make the loads over us and worship them as they so deserve because the “know” the “truth” and are the “right” people to save us from our sins. Of course if it doesn’t work out and all it accomplished was to grant ultimate power to the “right” people we could make them pay for there wicked ways because like us they will be long dead before their prophecies are fulfilled.

I’ll like to propose this. We do what they want but every single one of the “right” people can not ever profit form it in any way other then the knowledge that they saved the world. They can not have power, money or position. They mush fade into the masses they so wish to dominate. Better yet are they willing to die for their cause? Are they willing to be executed after they have put everything in place to save our future? I’m betting that a very few would agree to one or both of those but that the majority know it is a scam to riches and power and would not agree.

and CO2 is the evil gas of choice
Dasher on December 17, 2008 at 9:07 AM

Most people know CO is bad and I have run across quite a few people that don’t know the difference between CO and CO2. I think CO2 was chosen for the very reason that we have been taught CO is a pollutant and CO2 is very close to the same sound. Ever notice how it is always CO2 and never carbon Dioxide? I think that is because school children are taught that carbon dioxide is good for plants but CO2 and carbon monoxide are very bad. At least that was what my daughter was told in her high school science class which was also heavily biased towards global warming.

… The causal relationship has been established for decades. …

starflyer on December 16, 2008 at 12:52 AM

The fallacy with the theory is CO2 levels track the temperature change not the other way around. CO2 increases are far behind the actual temperature change. All that indicates is a correlation not a cause.

Our entire atmosphere is a greenhouse gas, and CO2 is the evil gas of choice because it can be taxed. It would be difficult for governments to try and tax oxygen or nitrogen.

starfleet_dude on December 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Why?

1. It was obviously warmer globally before the villages were constructed.
2. There were no man made greenhouse gases to cause the warmer temperatures.
3. There were a lot less people at the time.
4. It got cold and they left their tools expecting to come back the following spring, except its now like 400-600 years later…

I got the gist of that from one of the 31,000 scientists listed above. Facts confuse liberals.

Consensus doesn’t make science. Remember, scientific consensus that were all wrong? lets make a list:

1. The earth is flat
2. If you get too near the edge of the earth you will fall off.
3. Sea monsters live in the Atlantic ocean
4. The Sun orbits the earth
5. Bleeding patients cures illnesses
6. Bathing causes illness.
7. Cats are familiars of the devil and must be killed, but plague infested rats are ok.
8. Man will never fly
9. Man will never reach the Moon.
10. Drilling holes in the head to cure mental illness works wonders.

Please add your own.

Mark Garnett on December 16, 2008 at 12:40 PM

31,000 Scientists Prove No ‘Consensus’ on “Man-Made” Global Warming

Very bad news about the rapidly warming Arctic:

starfleet_dude on December 16, 2008 at 9:03 AM

Not really, it happened before and the current melting is not caused by man.

Less Ice In Arctic Ocean 6000-7000 Years Ago (Science Daily)
Winds, Ice Motion Root Cause Of Decline In Sea Ice, Not Warmer Temperatures (Science Daily)

But you failed to mention that the Antarctic ice is increasing:

Satellites Show Overall Increases In Antarctic Sea Ice Cover (NASA)

“The Antarctic wintertime ice extent increased…at a rate of 0.6 percent per decade from 1979-2006“ – Donald Cavalieri, Senior Research Scientist, NASA

Maybe the information has outstripped the ability of the press to deal with it.
……

That question again, incase you forgot: Do you agree that El Nino is phenomenon that occurred every year around Christmas time prior to 1988?

Buddahpundit on December 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM

It’s now after 10 pm EST; did starfleet ever answer you?

The question isn’t what’s a “non-deviant” climate for Earth, but how changes to Earth’s climate affects the well-being of the planet, including all its forms of life.

Ok, so if the emphasis is (or should be) on understanding the changes and developing methods of coping with those changes (which I believe is the right thing to do), why all the gnashing of teeth by the ultra-left wackos about going green? Thats not coping, thats denial of nature and its attendant change process. Why not start the Exodus away from low-lying coastal areas now, before its “too late”?

And all climate change is bad, right? Its catastrophic. Imagine Florida underwater (again), palm trees in Toronto (again). We should all just off each other right now and save a lot of pain and anguish, then Mother Earth can start repairing all the damage we created.

Yet there is unmistakable evidence that the Earth is warming

starfleet_dude on December 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM

And if this “unmistakable evidence” was shown not to exist, then you would give up the global warming belief?
Or is something else driving your faith in Global Warming?

Man-made global warming my a-s. I’m in NYC I don’t like it here much but the weather in other parts of the USA is also just as bad. Floods, Heat, Cold no matter what the alarmists blame it on global warming.

so the whole business about Mars somehow being a proxy for Earth is beside the point.

starfleet_dude on December 16, 2008 at 4:58 PM

That is exactly the point.