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Global warming arrives in Minnesota

posted at 2:27 pm on December 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Looks peaceful and placid, right?  Not when you have to shovel the driveway and the wind is gusting up to 20 MPH.  In order to get the barrels out this morning for the trash pickup, I had to clear the driveway first — and even bundled up and wearing my heaviest winter gloves, my fingers went numb about five minutes into the effort.  I did manage to finish in about 20 minutes, getting back into the house at just the moment one of the First Mate’s friends informed us that they knew of a service that would have done the job for about twelve dollars.  I probably would have spent that much to stay warm.

For the record, our below-zero days usually come in January and February, not December.  It looks as though we will have a second long, cold winter in a row.  That’s what makes this report from the AP so ludicrous:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore. Now it is a ticking time bomb that President-elect Barack Obama can’t avoid. …

Mother Nature, of course, is oblivious to the federal government’s machinations. Ironically, 2008 is on pace to be a slightly cooler year in a steadily rising temperature trend line. Experts say it’s thanks to a La Nina weather variation. While skeptics are already using it as evidence of some kind of cooling trend, it actually illustrates how fast the world is warming.

The average global temperature in 2008 is likely to wind up slightly under 57.9 degrees Fahrenheit, about a tenth of a degree cooler than last year. When Clinton was inaugurated, 57.9 easily would have been the warmest year on record. Now, that temperature would qualify as the ninth warmest year.

Did the AP forget how to do research?  The warmest years on record mostly occurred before Clinton became President — and before Clinton was born.  John at Power Line, suffering under the same weather conditions as me at the moment, noted this last night:

This displays a remarkable level of ignorance on the part of the Associated Press. Global temperature records are nowhere near accurate enough to rank years, over a period of centuries, with any confidence. For the recent past, though, we have the world’s best data set here in the U.S. And it’s true that at one time, it was widely believed that the 1990s were the warmest recent decade. But that was before it was discovered that NASA’s James Hansen, Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, had been fudging the data, either accidentally or on purpose. NASA was forced to correct its data, with the result that the ten warmest years on record here in the US are as follows: 1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939.

The AP apparently hasn’t gotten the word, perhaps because it is relying on the report of the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But the IPCC report was a political document, not a scientific one, which deliberately ignored the most current research in the field.

They haven’t gotten the word?  More likely, they have ignored it in order to engage in global-warming hysteria.  Meanwhile, Hot Air readers in Minnesota should try to keep bundled up to avoid frostbite from all that global warming that just got delivered overnight.

Update: I forgot to mention that it was -8 when I woke up, and -6 when I cleared the driveway … with a -26 wind chill. Yee-haw.

Update II: Actually, I have both a longish driveway and a snowthrower — but the latter is in the shop at the moment.  Believe me, I missed it this morning.


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Don’t go where the Huskies go,
and don’t ever eat that warming snow.

Hening on December 15, 2008 at 2:30 PM

1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939

Clearly a trend…

forest on December 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Doesn’t the high-paying crazy world of blogging afford you enough disposable income for a snowblower, Ed?

MadisonConservative on December 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM

i drove two cars to work in order to more quickly do my part in warming the globe.

cpr on December 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

Just stay home and drink wine by the fireplace.

Mr. Bingley on December 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

Ah, the Church of Global Warming, where unquestioned and undying faith is paramount.

Don’t EVEN THINK of questioning the authority of the Church, you evil earthlings.

It’s time to sacrifice to your god.

NoDonkey on December 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

I got the weather report this morning from my son at the UofM. He doesn’t plan to go out in the record warm temperatures until Wednesday morning for his Chem final.

jerryofva on December 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

It has struck here in the southern Puget Sound area as well – temps in the mid 20’s, a skiff of snow and windy. The local media are acting like fools, of course.

Wyatt Wingfoot on December 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Just wait until they put ridiculous taxes the fossil fuels that people use to heat their houses with. That will fix things!

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I have always been a big fan of just driving over the snow until it melts, but many places now have ordinances that you have to clear a path to the front door.

alflauren on December 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM

When things cool down in the next couple of years or so, they’ll want to credit Obama.

moc23 on December 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Once, just once, I would like to hear Al Gore tell us by how much the global temperature will be reduced by reduction of GHG by 1 tonne.

Will it ever dawn on you science flunkouts in the MSM to ask a simple, direct question of His Nobelness?

shaken on December 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM

That picture was clearly photoshopped…

loudmouth883 on December 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM

I worked on a Christmas Tree farm in Rochester, MN. I remember a day when windchill was -70F and it was a few days before Christmas and some idiot wanted me to tie a tree on his roof, vs put it in the back of his SUV. That was after he refused to buy a nice tree inside the warm shed and forced me to go out and cut one down for him. No tip either.

But, it’s one of those stories that I like to tell. And, by the time I am 80 years old it’ll be quite extreme!!!

James on December 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Here in north GA it is kind of a roller coaster. We had a couple of weeks of temps ranging from mid 20’s to the 40’s and now the projections for this week include highs up into the 70’s.

Just A Grunt on December 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM

The wheels are coming off the GW juggernaut and the global gaucherie know it. That’s why they’re pushing so hard now for Kyoto Jr. They need to do it quickly before time, temperature data and common sense expose their fraud.

whitetop on December 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Doesn’t the high-paying crazy world of blogging afford you enough disposable income for a snowblower, Ed?

MadisonConservative on December 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Heh. Yeah, Ed doesn’t have a long driveway. But you can get a smaller snowblower for $500. Also, I think the global warming people are saying that as the world gets colder, it proves their theory b/c the world is heading toward extremes, very hot and very cold. Dunno.

IR-MN on December 15, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Oh, btw it was 80 here in atx yesterday and now it is 35deg with threat of ice tonight.

The 80 yesterday was nice. I prefer a warm globe.

James on December 15, 2008 at 2:37 PM

The Sun is quiet. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has flipped to it’s cold phase. Alaska’s and Finland’s glaciers grew last year. Baghdad had it’s first snow in 100 years last Winter. China had it’s worst Winter in 50 years last Winter. Madison, WI had an all-time record snow last Winter and is ahead of that pace so far this year. Portland, Oregon is expected to remain below freezing through this coming weekend! National Weather Service says it’s the coldest air mass there in 10 years and the stretch below freezing may end up being the longest since the 1970’s.

I could go on and provide links for all of that. The MSM won’t report this stuff. The propaganda from them is truly amazing.

Thankfully, it’s going to be tough to convince people it’s warming up when they are freezing!!!

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Yeah, the temp has dropped like a rock here today (Indiana).

WHEN will the world give up on the global warming hoax? Seriously. 10 years? Sooner? Later?

Oink on December 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Climate and weather are different things.

Xolom on December 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Ummmm…Ed?

You live in Minnesota and your not used to the cold of Winter?

Helloooo?

Now if you were here in south Texas last week, where several lcoations, including Houston received record snowfall (it even snowed a bit here in San antonio…) then maybe.

But Minnesota? If I were you, I’d track down the Goracle and punch him right square in the mouth

: )

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM

But if we cannot do penance by buying carbon offsets and driving hybrids and playing the greenier than thou game, how can we ever be forgiven for our sins against Mother Gaia?

trubble on December 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM

1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939.
forest

It is a Fibonacci sequence.

Just A Grunt on December 15, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Yeah, we went from 81 last week to snow in less than 12 hrs.

James on December 15, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Hey I was on the light rail to go into the twin Cities late yesterday afternoon. The train going southbound had stopped. reason? ICE on the cables overhead….. how’s that global warming working for ya, libtards? Oh shout out to my leftard witless nieces in college….. when you earn you’re own way and learn about the world, THEN lecture me on global warming…. oh wait.. never mind… you’ll still lose.

MNDavenotPC on December 15, 2008 at 2:40 PM

It snowed in Houston last week.

GinaE on December 15, 2008 at 2:41 PM

I always put my garbage out a day or two before the storm.

Just saying.

artist on December 15, 2008 at 2:41 PM

WHEN will the world give up on the global warming hoax? Seriously. 10 years? Sooner? Later?

Oink on December 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Never! As long as they can fake the numbers and silence the opposition, they never need to give up on global warming, even if there are glaciers over the entire US.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM

It snowed in Houston last week.

GinaE on December 15, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Ditto Texas Hill Country.

RushBaby on December 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Yep, the time left to impose a ‘cap and trade’ is now or never. Hence the AP’s histronic cry.

Sir Napsalot on December 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM

The Pacific Decadal Oscillation was in a warm phase during the latest bout of “Global Warming,” plus the Sun was burning hot.

Now we have a quiet Sun and Pacific Decadal Oscillation in year two of a 25-30 year cold phase. When the Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation turns cold in 10-15 years it’s gonna be BRUTAL!

Remember in the 1970’s when scientists were warning of an ice age? Pacific Decadal Oscillation was in a cold phase. Remeber how everyone thought the weather was so weird that maybe the Russians were controlling it? Now they will say it’s our fault!

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Ha! Better you than me. I am so glad I headed south. Don’t mind the snow, but the cold always got to me. People that have never been through it can’t appreciate 20 below zero plus wind chill. Bare skin can get frostbite within minutes. Enjoy, Ed.

Corsair on December 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Didn’t you see The Day After Tomorrow?!!!

Gorebull Wormening caused the next ice age…

What? You mean the AP can’t use a Hollywood movie as source material?

The movie made more sense thatn the AP’s frickin article does…

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Well, Al Gore’s Global Warming is in the Portland, Oregon area too. 3-4 inches of snow on Sunday that’s expected to remain for at least a week as temps are expected to not break freezing for at least that long. This is something that in this area’s temperate climate is almost unheard of.

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 2:46 PM

I love the Global Warming that knocked my power out for 38 hours, flooded my basement and destroyed my favorite tree in my back yard.

Thanks, environmentalists!!!

crazy_legs on December 15, 2008 at 2:46 PM

While skeptics are already using it as evidence of some kind of cooling trend, it actually illustrates how fast the world is warming.

Isn’t that straight out of The Day After Tomorrow?

loudmouth883 on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939.
forest
It is a Fibonacci sequence.

Just A Grunt on December 15, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Spiral Out!
Keep…
Going….

loudmouth883 on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

‘Ow to Stump a Global Warming Religionist:

“Is there any weather pattern or indicator that would lead you to believe Global Warming is not occurring?”

BKennedy on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Ed is right. Current temperature in St. Paul is about -4°F. We could use some of that global warming ’round about now.

Mr. D on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Would that be Al Gore, James Hansen, the IPCC or Obama?

Curious…

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Didn’t you see The Day After Tomorrow?!!!

Gorebull Wormening caused the next ice age…

What? You mean the AP can’t use a Hollywood movie as source material?

The movie made more sense thatn the AP’s frickin article does…

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Yeah. Opening scene, the “scientist” is talking about how the warming causing ice melt turning off the ocean currents leading to ice age… “JUST LIKE IT DID 11,000 YEARS AGO”

What Wolly Mammoth was driving an SUV 11,000 years ago to bring that on themselves? They blew their own argument 10 minutes into the film!

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

You people who deliberately conuse September and October temperatures to ensure funding for your ponzi scheme are an endless source of disgust to every decent human being.

BKennedy on December 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM

I’m not calling for his early demise…but if God has a sense of humor, AlGore will experience hypothermia.

PappaMac on December 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Dude. Weather over time is your Climate. Face it. These colder temperatures over the last few years, and getting more dramatic at that, could just be a signal that the climate is getting colder, not warmer.

Does that help?

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Global warming hit again today here in San Antonio…

Just had my guys out on the range for about two hours. The temps are in the low 40’s (I know, I know, but that’s frickin cold in these parts…), wind chills into the 30’s.

They aren’t liking the old sarge too much right now…

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Belief in Global Warming requires denial one’s own senses and experience.
Ditto most other Lefty causes.

Bruno Strozek on December 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM

It’s days like this that I hate Canada. ;-0

highhopes on December 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM

if God has a sense of humor, AlGore will experience hypothermia.

PappaMac on December 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM

And unable to call for help because his internet connection is down.

highhopes on December 15, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Since Global Warming is all about tax revenue, and reducing America’s standard of living, which the fed is taking care of, they will not stop. Everyone knows ice ages are caused by global warming. Barf-barf. So you can’t win with logic.

Dasher on December 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM

But then again, ManBearPig probably has enough fat on him to last days at low temps.

PappaMac on December 15, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Everyone knows ice ages are caused by global warming. Barf-barf. So you can’t win with logic.

Dasher on December 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Good point. Climate skeptics have been countering this nonsense for a decade, but that’s the nature of the Left – just change the parameters of the argument.

Global warming stopped working as alatrmist mantra when everything started cooling off. So they changed it to the all encompassing “climate change”.

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Update: I forgot to mention that it was -8 when I woke up, and -6 when I cleared the driveway … with a -26 wind chill. Yee-haw.

It was -20 Saturday Morning, -10 that day. -10 That night and -8 Sunday. It is now 12 but expected to get back into the minuses.

And my Zone Value is out. Ever slept in -20 (about 40 at most inside).. and pray your pipes don’t freeze? This winter is not being nice! Good Ole’ Farmers Almanac predicts it again.

upinak on December 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Since Global Warming is all about tax revenue, and reducing America’s standard of living,
Dasher on December 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM

It’s also about scam artists with their cap-and-trade schemes.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM

This is why me and the wife moved south. It’s tougher to get to see the Red Sox play, but I have shoveled my last driveway clear of snow. My only regret: my son will not have to shovel the driveway the way I had to for all those years….

RedSoxNation on December 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Benny… do you ever have anything positive to say? Make one wonder how as a supposed Alaskan, if anyone will ever help you if you ever have issues with how they are helping you.

God Help you, and if you sit on your bumper and pee… may you get stuck to it!

upinak on December 15, 2008 at 3:02 PM

80 degrees in Central Florida checking in :-)

ulyses on December 15, 2008 at 3:02 PM

The snow looks lovely…

From a distance! ;-)

(although it is actually raining and chilly here in SoCal today…)

Y-not on December 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Able to guzzle more energy than dozens of normal men! Producing more hot air than a locomotive! Able to pile up carbon credits higher than a tall building in a single bound!!!

Look UP in the sky! It’s ChickenLittle! It’s FlyingSnakeOilSalesman! It’s the Sultan of Hanging Chads! It’s the Ayatollah of Heat! No, it’s CarbonMan traveling between mansions in a private jet painted green! And now following in the tradition of other great men such as Jimmy Carter and Yasir Arafat, he is the proud recipient of a Nobel Prize!!!

CarbonMan, strange visitor from an alternate reality who came to Earth with claims and scary predictions far beyond those of sane men, disguised as Fat Albert, and now joined by other members of the Royal Green League such as BioFuelHummerMan, EcoCleaningWoman, and his latest recruits, the molding geriatrics JuanGreenOldCoot and HolyGreenOldJoe, they all fight a never ending battle for science-fiction, hypocrisy, power-grabs, big-money-making-scams and the Hollywood way!

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I forgot to mention that it was -8 when I woke up, and -6 when I cleared the driveway … with a -26 wind chill.

Know what I say about that? Better you than me.

RWLA on December 15, 2008 at 3:06 PM

No worries…
.
Obama will be on the job in short order…..
.
.
Returning us all to sub-zero temps in November and May just the way we like it.
.
.
…..and the peasants will rejoice…….

subbottomfeeder on December 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

OK… who is the wise guy that invited Al Gore to Minnesota???

Sinner on December 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

What really upsets me about all of this, besides the lying, is where it leads.

California is bankrupt and they won’t drill for oil. Beyond sad. It should be criminal.

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Isn’t global warming a good thing for the homeless?
.

subbottomfeeder on December 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Just for the record, it isn’t really an AP article. It is a Seth Borenstein article. Borenstein writes for the Boston Globe and the AP wire picked up his story. He is a warming advocate, though and has a history of being more an activist than a journalist.

You might want to visit NewsCred and express your opinion of his credibility.

crosspatch on December 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

On a related note, the global warming whackjobs are being driven totally and completely insane by the cold. One of them just found out that humans are carbon-based and they have now reclassified people as “pollutants”. So there!

progressoverpeace on December 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Sounds like a remake of Captain Planet.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Undeniable evidence of global warming:

Mean Sea Level 1993-2008

A 50mm rise in mean sea level since 1993 is the sort of thing that can’t just be waved away by misleading rhetoric.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

There is absolutely no relationship between the weather and the climate. None what-so-ever!!! Not at all. Can’t happen

sdd on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

The Portland Oregonian had a front-page article at the end of the very cold Oregon winter last year explaining that there are always going be variations in temperature, that one year’s weather does not make a trend, etc. etc. etc. All of which is true, of course, but if last winter had been unusually warm, the Oregonian would have been trumpeting the warm winter as proof positive of global warming. You are only allowed to use anecdotal evidence in support of global warming, you see.

Meanwhile, I’m glad that I have a job that allows me to work from home today, rather than braving the global warming-kissed black ice roads of Portland.

Realist on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

So explain why Glaciers are GROWING!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

upinak on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Don’t you heretics here understand that Obama has already started to cool the world and the oceans’ rise is starting to decline? Don’t you understand that were it not for His presence as Pres Elect, who knows what havoc would have been wreaked in Minnesota and elsewhere due to AGW? When snowfall happens next July, you can thank Obama, that He has stopped Global Warming by the mere installment of his energy advisors/secretaries and by passage of a carbon tax.

eaglewingz08 on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

A 50mm rise in mean sea level since 1993 is the sort of thing that can’t just be waved away by misleading rhetoric.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

So go buy some land in the mountains and stop bugging the rest of us.

progressoverpeace on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

You people who confuse a energy guzzling, environment raping, money swindling, fraudulent, lying, hypocrite retard like Al Gore for a scientist or High Priest of some kind are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

reclassified people as “pollutants”
progressoverpeace on December 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

True progressives and liberals have always classified people as pollutants.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

I think it is hilarious how cold is “weather” and heat is “proof”.

crosspatch on December 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Al Gore’s whole purpose with the global warming/climate change thing is to impose restrictions of business and industry, since as all good socialists know, they are the root of all evil.
Look at the environmental team Obama put together. Everyone of them is a cap and trade advocate as well as advocates against nuclear power and coal power. They all have either worked for Al Gore or pray at his church of the Global Warming.

Just A Grunt on December 15, 2008 at 3:12 PM

“Is there any weather pattern or indicator that would lead you to believe Global Warming is not occurring?”

BKennedy on December 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Al Gore would have to get another revelation from his microwave.

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:12 PM

1:07 in the afternoon here (Western Montana), and it’s now warmed up to -11 degrees. Got down to -27 last night with a wind chill that has not been calculated as of yet. I’m sitting at my desk looking out at the Yellowstone River, which was flowing smoothly as of Saturday morning, but is now almost completely frozen over. The Goracle must have done a fly-over!

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Nothing confusing about you being an idiot!

Keemo on December 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Oh, hell…

Did the SUV and increased CO2 cause the Little Ice Age? Any Ice Age?

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM

upinak, glaciers across the world are shrinking, with the exception being Norway where additional snowfall has kept them from doing so.

The fact that the Earth’s mean sea level have risen is an unambiguous sign that the world’s glaciers are shrinking, as well as the Arctic ice cap diminishing to the point where ships can actually traverse the Northwest and Northeast Passages in late summer.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM

It’s time to sacrifice to your god.

NoDonkey on December 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

I’d prefer to sacrifice their god, instead.

Count to 10 on December 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM

True progressives and liberals have always classified people as pollutants.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

That is true, but they used to keep it restricted to private conversations, for the most part. In the past, you had to wear a lib down, a bit, to get them to finally blurt out that “humans are the only evil species on Earth and should be destroyed”, though they did enjoy talking about how “humans are destroying the planet”. Now, it’s built into their actual religion and will be TAXED!! Change.

progressoverpeace on December 15, 2008 at 3:15 PM

In and around Seattle we have Prius drivers fishtailing up and down icy roads. “Arctic Blast” hit this weekend and it’s the coldest it’s been since 1990. Cold all week and more snow in the forecast. :)

illustr8r on December 15, 2008 at 3:15 PM

I think it is hilarious how cold is “weather” and heat is “proof”.

crosspatch on December 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

*zing* +1

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

upinak, glaciers across the world are shrinking, with the exception being Norway where additional snowfall has kept them from doing so.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM

You forgot to add Alaska. The reason given? Cool Summer after a cold snowy Winter. hmmmm.

Ordinary1 on December 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

catmman, no one is saying there aren’t changes in climate that occur naturally. What is different now is that human activity is also forcing changes to the climate via the release of CO2 and other greenhouse gases. The physics are not controversial, nor is the science documenting the rise in global temperatures beyond what would would naturally see due to changes in solar radiation and the Earth’s orbit.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

You people who still confuse weather and climate are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

benny shakar on December 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Ah, the standard liberal mantra when faced with having to eat their own “global warming” vomit…

I am tew stoopid to figer out the diffrnc. Well, us nonb-believers and MIT anyway.

Wyznowski on December 15, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Belief in Global Warming requires denial one’s own senses and experience.

Bruno Strozek on December 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM

To believe in Global Warming requires that one shut the eyes of his mind and keep them shut by force.
- “Mark Twain”

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:17 PM

the ten warmest years on record here in the US are as follows: 1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939.

So out of the last 100 years, 1 of the ten hottest years occurred in the last decade, which is exactly what one would expect if the earth were NOT warming.

18-1 on December 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

You people who confuse an energy guzzling, environment raping, money swindling, fraudulent, lying, hypocrite retard like Al Gore for a scientist or High Priest of some kind are an endless source of amusement to the rest of us.

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM

But how do you really feel, MB4? You know that global warming is caused by denial of global warming. GAIA knows how we feel, if we’ve been bad or good, …

progressoverpeace on December 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

We are looking at some freezing rain in Kentucky. I wish the cold would go south and freeze all the pipes in Algore’s ginormous Tennessee home.

Ellen on December 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

A 50mm rise in mean sea level since 1993 is the sort of thing that can’t just be waved away by misleading rhetoric.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Uhh you do realize that melting ice does not raise the level of water. It merely replacing the level that was taken up by it’s mass.
Simple experiment. Fill glass with liquid, put in ice cubes. Mark fluid level and check periodically as ice melts.
Sometimes it pays to stay awake in science class instead of staring at Betty Sue Loudermilks assets.
Here is a novel idea. How about measuring rainfall?

Just A Grunt on December 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Ok, now I know you are a died in the wool, 100% Troll Of The First Order. Feeding the Trolls is bad I know, but…

Would you please site your evidence that ships traversed the arctic ice in 2008? It was widely predicted that it would happen – but didn’t.

Also, double check your facts on the whole glacier thing. A glacier in Alaska (amongst others) grew this year for the first time in 200 years!

catmman on December 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Ordinary1, Alaska’s glaciers have been shrinking for decades overall. One year does not a climate make.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM

upinak, glaciers across the world are shrinking, with the exception being Norway where additional snowfall has kept them from doing so.

The fact that the Earth’s mean sea level have risen is an unambiguous sign that the world’s glaciers are shrinking, as well as the Arctic ice cap diminishing to the point where ships can actually traverse the Northwest and Northeast Passages in late summer.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM

First off get your facts straight. All of the Glaciers are growing in Alaska. Here is a list of the Glaciers that have grown quite a bit and the website was update Dec. 1, 2008:

http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm

I am busting you out!

upinak on December 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Uhh you do realize that melting ice does not raise the level of water. It merely replacing the level that was taken up by it’s mass.

I do. What you don’t seem to be aware of is that it’s melting glacial ice on land that’s responsible for the rise.

starfleet_dude on December 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Sounds like a remake of Captain Planet.

zmdavid on December 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Superman intro from old TV show.

MB4 on December 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM

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