Video: Suspicious fire at Palin’s church, $1M damage
posted at 7:53 am on December 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
A fire broke out at the Wasilla Bible Church yesterday while a group of women worked on crafts inside, all of whom escaped without injury. The church itself sustained an estimated one million dollars worth of damage, and investigators say that the fire looks like arson:
Gov. Sarah Palin’s home church has been badly damaged in a suspicious fire.
Larry Kroon, the pastor of the Wasilla Bible Church, estimates damages at more than $1 million to the church. …
Palin spokesman Bill McAllister said the governor stopped by the church Saturday morning and apologized if the incident was related to her.
In a written statement McAllister said Palin, “told an assistant pastor that she apologizes if the incident is in any way connected to the undeserved negative attention the church has received since she became a vice presidential candidate on Aug. 29. Whatever the motives of the arsonist, the governor has faith in the scriptural passage that what was intended for evil will in some way be used for good.”
It’s too early to know whether the fire has anything to do with Sarah Palin’s candidacy. Unfortunately, churches and other places of worship get attacked by nutcases for a wide variety of irrational reasons, and one cannot predict what made these nuts set fire to this Wasilla church. In one sense, it seems odd that the attack would come now, after the election, when passions have cooled somewhat and the Governor has returned to work.
Thankfully, the alarm and sprinkler systems did their job — an area of some expertise for me. They’re designed to save lives, and the women in the crafts group were at serious risk of injury or death without them. Too many older buildings skip or skimp on such systems, occasionally with tragic results. This church was built three years ago, and we can see how these building requirements work to save lives.
Hopefully, the police in Wasilla will catch the perpetrator(s) and we will know what their motivation was very quickly. Until then, regardless of your denomination, let’s keep the congregation of the Wasilla Bible Church in our prayers. If they have any fundraisers, we’ll revisit the story to get Hot Air readers involved.
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rather uninformed aren’t you. Ignorance tends to cause hatred and church fires. Some say ignorance is bliss, its not.
What was the source of your misinformation? Why do you allow them to feed you? Why do you allow them to cause you to make a fool of yourself? Why not take the time to find the truth?
allrsn on December 14, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Don’t worry, you don’t come across as someone who is trying to speak for everyone but you know what you know and I don’t think that should be discounted. Noneya is very angry. I am pretty sure it will get the results wanted.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM
You got that right! Hot Air sure has changed. There are many that I don’t see anymore. I sure miss them. Is a lot of hateful trolls in here. I still come in here though. Is still some good people. But it is getting old. This was about a church being set on fire. It turned out to be made of more issues. Many posters say how they feel. They do it with class though. That I respect. The ones that just spew hate. I cannot help myself but to fire back. It sucks to have to do that.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Don’t worry, you don’t come across as someone who is trying to speak for everyone but you know what you know and I don’t think that should be discounted. Noneya is very angry. I am pretty sure it will get the results wanted.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Thanks Cindy, Not worried. Just don’t like others being categorized and attacked. Am trying to be nice. Sure miss trailboss though. There are good people in here. You are among them. Very intelligent too. :)
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM
You simultaneously amuse and concern me.
Gee, and you’re so nice to everyone else. I wonder why people would say anything unkind against you? /sarc
That’s asking far too much. People like Noneya are far too full of themselves to ever think of others, especially people they disagree with. As far as Noneya is concerned, Christians deserve having their churches burned because they believe homosexuality is a sin.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Black men won the right to vote in the 15th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1870. Black women won the right to vote in 1920. Jim Crow went from the 1870′s to 1960′s.
Not-so-good try.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Me too ramrocks. Me too! :) Have to go soon, will be back in a while.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I thought this post was about the tragedy at Palin’s church but I can’t tell by the responses. Anyway, Sarah there was no need for you to apologize, but it does show what a classy person you truly are, I hope they catch the rat who did it and put him away for a very long time.
Done That on December 14, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Actually, Biden said he only wanted civil unions and specifically spoke against gay marriage. I know he’s a liar, so it’s entirely possible he didn’t mean a word of it, but that’s still what he said.
Not all gays want marriage. Accept that or don’t. But it’s highly insulting to other gays to act as though they should all think the way you do. That’s called stereotyping, which you’re normally against when someone else is doing it.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Allah, Ed, Michelle,
Congratulations on your accomplishment. Who could have guessed a blog as promising as HotAir once was could sink so quickly? I suppose if I cared more I’d quote some of the hateful garbage that passes for legitimate discussion here, but I rarely visit here much anymore. When I do it is to see if anyone has reined in the crap and to check for the re-appearance of many original & substantive commentors who used to frequent this site.
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Kudos to all the newbies who helped with its demise. Raise your glasses of Kool-aid to toast one another for a job well done. Mazel tov!
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Blacks were discriminated against for the color of their skin, may I point out that unless someone makes me privy to their sexual orientation (please don’t) I am unlikely to know and so could not discriminate against them. You might add that along with their religious belief to why the black population voted against Gay Marriage, I am pretty sure they feel it marginalizes their struggles.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:10 PM
IMO, they opened registration at the wrong times, and invited casual people to become members in the process. I think they opened it when the Palin news was announced, and on election nights. They should open registration on the slowest days, so as to allow only people who would otherwise regularly be reading to join.
Plus, there’s very little moderation.
jimmy the notable on December 14, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Excuse me, but I’m the angry one?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Gotta nip the Christianist/Snowbilly threat in the bud.
TBinSTL on December 14, 2008 at 4:15 PM
I remember my Dad used to say, “You’d argue with a signboard you painted yourself.” Always thought it was just an expression…
Hope I don’t short-circuit the argument by agreeing with you, but that’s a very good example you raise. Church burnings were presumed to be racially motivated hate crimes, until a little investigation turned up that church burnings were happening to black churches, white churches, and mixed churches at about the same rate.
So they were not racially motivated hate crimes, but they were still hate crimes. Not everything is about race.
theregoestheneighborhood on December 14, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Look, they either ready your comment or they didn’t. Don’t spam unless you want to be banned.
While that’s mostly correct, it’s not entirely correct. Yes, you can’t tell someone’s gay by looking at them, but you can if they go out on a date with their significant other, or anytime they casually talk about relationships the way everyone does, regardless of sexual preference.
So it is the kind of thing that easily comes up often enough without anyone going into any graphic details, similar to the way someone’s religion can be discovered.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:16 PM
You insulted her son. Why would you expect her to be nice to you?
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:18 PM
It started when AP began exercising his “self trolling” authority and has reached this point through a belief that page views are the only valid metric of a blog’s quality/standing.
TBinSTL on December 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:10 PM
They do. LaShawn Barber had an excellent piece on it a while back.
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Sorry for the double post. I thought I forgot to click “Submit Comment” because I didn’t see my comment, but it was because a new page (4) had started. D’OH!.
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sheebe, cindy, you and a few others who have been around a while were not the target of my “toast”. As to the one who thinks Allah will suggest I move on, I already have, that is why I said,
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NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Excuse me, but I’m the angry one?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Truth hurts doesn’t it? You are more than angry.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I wouldn’t discriminate against anyone but the point I was trying to make (badly) is that a lot of the black population was insulted at the comparison. I am just older, I don’t ask personal questions of people, it would take some doing to work sexual preference into a conversation with me or their religion for that matter.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:23 PM
In the course of this thread, you’ve mocked Gov. Palin’s future son-in-law and sheebe’s son, and you’ve belittled the apparently arson burning of a church.
Stay classy!
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 4:23 PM
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sheebe, cindy, you and a few others who have been around a while were not the target of my “toast”. As to the one who thinks Allah will suggest I move on, I already have, that is why I said,
.NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I know. You made a great point. A true statement. Am glad to see you.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Finding other angry posters does not prove you’re not an angry poster. Especially since some of the above grew angry from responding to your posts.
I don’t know that you’re a troll — i.e., someone who delights in provoking other people. But you act like it sometimes, then whine about how mean or angry other people are to you.
Angry sounds about right.
theregoestheneighborhood on December 14, 2008 at 4:25 PM
While I agree that I miss a lot of the really witty and insightful posters to HotAir, it isn’t in my nature to ask that people be banned. More of us need to learn to ignore somethings said here and they probably would stop coming. I must try to be more mature.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM
On that I very much agree. Even if gays were purple, what’s happened to them is nothing compared to what happened to blacks.
I think you’d be surprised on this one. Just yesterday I was out Christmas shopping. I was looking at some golf stuff and was asked by a random shopper if I play. I just responded with, “no, my husband does.” And just like that, a stranger now knows I’m heterosexual and that I’m married.
It’s not all that uncommon. And even in just normal conversation, I’m constantly referencing my husband without intending to.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM
While I don’t quite understand how this became a thread on Prop 8, I will admit that I have added to it and shouldn’t have. We have many great posters who don’t support Prop 8, they are both homosexuals and libertarians. I am pretty conflicted myself but I think we should be able to have a reasonable conversation but anger just brings more of the same.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM
And thus. the rantings of the hate-filled militant atheists who monitor and disrupt these forums take physical form in an act of religious persecution. Well done, MoveOn underground. Soon we’ll be driven to the catacombs.
But we aren’t going away. And not all of us are Quakers.
Venusian Visitor on December 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Might wanna fix that clock of yours . . .
http://library.thinkquest.org/J0112391/myth_9.htm
Blacks were finally guaranteed their voting rights in 1965.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_b.php
Just how were they able to vote again?
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM
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Hey Esthier, Oh, now that’s RICH. I’ll be BANNED for a (mistaken) double post, while all the $HIT that passes as commentary here is allowed to go unchecked. HuffingSomePaint called, they’re missing their village hypocrit…
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Aren’t YOU the one, who wrote a while back about how you discovered the fact of your husband’s raunchy behavior with a stripper at his bachelor party on the eve of your wedding? I had to read it twice back then, because I was looking for the “EX-” (as in ex-fiance or ex-husband). But no, you knew he was a creep and MARRIED HIM ANYWAY.
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I confess, from then to now, I’ve FILED ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY UNDER “NOT-TOO-BRIGHT-DOORMAT”.
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Before we all jump to conclusions, most church arsons are committed by members of the church. That’s the practical advice from arson investigators floated a few years back when it was claimed that racists were burning black churches down all over America. If arson, the perpetrator is likely to be a church member with psychological problems who has just clashed with somebody in the church, perhaps an authority figure in the church.
It’s only an outside possibility that a liberal Palin-hater fired the church, though not impossible. When an ANSWER anti-war demonstration a couple years ago pitched next to the Vietnam war memorial threatened vandalism to The Wall, the Park Police successfully stopped Black Bloc anarchists from vandalizing it. However, the lefties returned a few months later and vandalized it in the middle of the night before the next round of anti-war protests. So there is a precedent.
Tantor on December 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I was giving you advise. They ban spammers. If you want to insult me go right on ahead. From now on I’ll keep all tips to you all to myself.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM
I’ll bet anyone a lunch at McDonalds and give 10-to-1 odds that this was a political act.
Venusian Visitor on December 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Wait for the NY Times headline:
“Palin apologizes for Arson”
PackerBronco on December 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Understood but I don’t know how that would devolve into mass discrimination. I learned a long time ago that things that were despised as I grew up were things I wasn’t willing to have alienate me from friend or loved one. That being said, it is hard to expect righteous people to forgo their religious beliefs. We are so off topic. Sorry.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM
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TBinSTL, I’m sorry, “AP, self trolling”? What does that mean? I totally get the part about the numbers of hits being all that matters anymore, but ‘splain the “AP, self-trolling” bit, please. I’m intrigued.
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM
I agree, speculation is counterproductive at this point. We should just offer our prayers and support and let law enforcement do their job.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Where there weren’t poll taxes and other measures to disenfranchise them. Believe it or not some did actually have the ability to vote just about everywhere.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Agreed, on all points.
Back on topic…
I agree with you, but I’m still leaning towards politically motivated since this church was made famous by Palin and because the arsonist did that while people were inside.
I won’t be too shocked if the culprit is a member of the church, but I would place bets against it.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM
…lectured Miss Off Topic.
The irony is amusing.
fossten on December 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM
What’s the over-under on it being an inside job? Looks like they spent a whole lot of $ for a pretty average-looking church. Maybe they weren’t happy w/ the result?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Again, I was simply giving advise. I’ve never seen anyone banned for cussing or being ugly here, but I’ve seen several banned for spamming.
Getting off topic is not at all the same as spamming.
And I suppose the irony is lost on you that by focusing on my comment you yourself are taking the conversation off topic.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Gay social conservatives? well, there were jewish nazi’s too…
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Resentments can run deep in small towns like Wasilla. Hopefully this doesn’t lead to more people lashing out.
As far as slavery and Jim Crow, yes. As far as everyone hating them for no good reason, I wouldn’t call it nothing.
RightOFLeft on December 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
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I’ve been here for almost 3 years. So, I’m pretty familiar with what “they” do. In fact, what “they” do and what “they” used to do was (ban-hammer hate speech and generally follow their own terms of service, etc.) was pretty much, the core of my comment. Maybe you should ready everything twice. Maybe you’re not so much a doormat, but just not too bright.
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Sounds like a good plan to me.
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Yeah, so they wanted to burn the church so they can pay a huge deductible to get it fixed. That’s brilliant.
I was only talking about slavery and Jim Crow. I don’t really care about the latter. Nearly every group of people who came to America after the first settlers at one point found themselves hated by everyone else for no good reason. It may as well be a right of passage.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Please expand on why you jesus-loving folks would “justifiably” hate homosexuals?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Sorry, don’t know how I did the strike. Just a talent.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:03 PM
You keep insulting my intelligence while posting incoherent nonsense that most people would be embarrassed to have their names associated with.
Clearly you don’t need anyone’s help.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:03 PM
After he insulted me and my husband, that latter comment was tame.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Gee, I don’t know. Maybe it was the sending anthrax in the mail, or beating up on an old woman, or black listing people for expressing their right to vote?
I don’t know. It’s really hard to say how someone could not like what you’re doing.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Maybe a spurned witch-doctor then?
Discrimination is just merely hazing now?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 5:07 PM
“Hate thy neighbor”, which testament is that in?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Compared to slavery and Jim Crow? Yes.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Never said Christians hate gays. You just asked how they’d be justified.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Obviously many Christians here do. You are giving them a pass for defying the lord. what good is your religion if it doesn’t help you forgive and keep you from hating people?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Esthier and Noneya
Is it possible that RightoFLeft might not have been speaking of homosexuals? I am not quite sure. Esthier I am sorry you were insulted and Noneya I think you see insult where none was meant. I would love to discuss this on another thread sometime.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Just like the prisoners in Abu Ghraib, right? Your definition of hazing is pretty scary!
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM
I never really cared much one way or the other what people did in their spare time until it became a militant movement dedicated to making secular sodomy the established religion, and crushing every idea to the contrary. I don’t hate any group of people for that, because a lot of gay people live their lives and mind their own business. But the militant types are really beginning to irritate me.
BTW, whoever the strategists are behind the established religion of militant perversion, they need to brush up on their Sun Tzu. The entire program is so botched from an “acheive tolerance” standpoint that, assuming they are *not* idiots, the goal must be to inspire persecution and retaliation against gays so that can be leveraged into admission into the sort of constitutional protected class that has so far eluded them. Of course, the ones who will pay will be the true believe/idealist/ nobodies, not the elites who will benefit from other people’s suffering.
Venusian Visitor on December 14, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Sometimes a thread monitor would be nice, thnx Cindy. ; P
thomasaur on December 14, 2008 at 5:18 PM
When have I ever done that? I think you’re completely prejudiced against Christians and have very few nice things to say about you, but when someone needlessly insulted you based on your homosexuality, I jumped on that person. I do that every time I see it.
It does help. You have no idea what those people would be like without God.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM
You really can’t help yourself can you. No, not like Abu Ghraib.
I appreciate it. You seem like a genuinely good person.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 5:22 PM
OT: (LOL! As if anyone cares.)
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fossten, LMAO! She obviously hasn’t “ready” my comment, herself.
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Please stop, you are becoming less and less missed.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I was refering to his discovery sometime back that, much like McCain, sticking his finger in the eyes of the majority of his supporters got lots and lots of attnetion. AP sometimes posts things that are not particularly newsworthy but are guaranteed to anger as large a segment of the Hot Air readership as possible and generate comment threads well up into the triple digits. If you call him on it he gets pretty defensive too. I just ignore it now.
TBinSTL on December 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Just in case anybody’s taking this troll seriously, the book-burning thing was a hoax. Just one of the dozens and dozens of Palin hoaxes these dimwits still cling to.
Jim Treacher on December 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Hmmmmm.
This is about some ignorant idiot who tried to set a church on fire WITH people inside, in Wasilla and in the sub zero tempuratures peole got wet and had to come out into the cold and could have died of inhalation of smoke, being wet and either freezing or having hypothermia. And the person who set the fire, knows it was wrong but will probably get out of it anyways.
Now with all the trolls in here complaining about Palin and how ignorant she supposedly is, as well saying it was great. Should be banned or at least warned.. Allah and Ed.
Also I am not trying to hyjack the Blog… just putting it back on course. Who ever the reject is who did this, with people INSIDE should have to endure the same punishment of dealing with smoke inhalation, water on them and having to step outside to freeze and get hypothermia.
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM
You make an excellent point, although I have read that all inside got out are they okay? I feel bad for not thinking to find out, I guess I thought the media would mention it. This thread did devolve and I am sorry to say I was a party to it and I am sorry for my part.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 6:09 PM
To date, I have yet to read of any real torture and abuse that was committed at Abu Ghraib by the U.S. military.
If you know of any, please cite it with links.
As far as I’m concerned, the “Abu Ghraib” cr*p, as well as that alleged to occur at Gitmo, are lying smear tactics by the Left to make America and the military look bad and to make the IslamoNazis look like innocent lambs.
Also, the “torture” at Abu Ghraib by Americans was used to make everyone forget the very real torture, murder and abuse that went on at Abu Ghraib under Saddam.
Jenfidel on December 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Layla Santiago needs some Fishermans’ Friend
ToddonCapeCod on December 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM
All the hate I’m seeing is coming from your side of the aisle, buddy.
And when it comes to things like arson and physical and verbal assaults, we’re talking criminal offenses, too, not just emotions.
What’s been done by the anti-Prop. 8 protesters to those who publicly supported Prop. 8 like the Mormons amounts to true “hate crimes.”
And the Bible tells us to “hate the sin. Love the sinner.”
Jenfidel on December 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM
The Sprinkler turned on in the whole building, many people got wet. It is good that none got hypothermia or frost bite due to it… but I am more then Positive it was cold as heck. Since I helped with Wreaths Across America yesterday, and froze my butt off… I know how these people feel.
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM
I don’t want to do -10 dry, I can’t imagine wet. Keep us updated.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 6:25 PM
OT: (I think, it’s hard to tell)
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TBinSTL, thanks for the clarification. I understand now what you meant. It’s devolved into a QUANTITY before QUALITY issue for HotAir. And we can see how that’s working so far. Hopefully, most the people who have not been around were just burnt out with the campaign & will return, as will the high level of debate..
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In the meantime, there is good news: many NEW outstanding, passionate, informative and well moderated conservative blogs have sprung up since the election. Although they challenge their members to research the issues, they are most certainly worthy of the time one spends on them. So far these sites offer QUALITY before QUANTITY.
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Dude… stop highlighting phrases in every other sentence. It doesn’t make your point any more valid or insightful; it just points out the irony in your “quantity over quality” argument.
Andrew D on December 14, 2008 at 7:53 PM
The noise-to-signal ratio is awfully bad around here. How about just ignoring the trolls rather than allowing them to hijack the forum with incitements and follwed by personal attack and name-calling.
Is this forum moderated BTW?
Venusian Visitor on December 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM
I hadn’t even thought of how awful it must have been to go out in the freezing weather after being drenched by sprinklers. Terrible. And no laughing matter.
I wonder if the trolls will feel a sense of shame about their comments? Honestly, I don’t think they will.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM
I dunno, I use JavaScript and trust it so I get a note saying the Gov’r thanks me for the note. As well as Spyware Doctor.
Good on ya to write her at this horrific time.
HotAirJosef on December 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Oh heavens now Noneya, we wouldn’t want to be coveting our neighbor’s goods now, would we?
Perhaps they need a lot of insulation and weatherproofing in the frigid cold of Alaska? That stuff doesn’t come on the home supply dollar menu, you know. Add in replacement costs and limited construction time, and you could be looking at real money in no time.
Inside job? Not impossible, but not likely either. Could in fact just be a random psychopath.
BKennedy on December 14, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Short AP article on the church’s services today. Twelve hundred people attended. I’ve read on several message boards people posting how to send money to help the church rebuild.
Palin’s statement:
meltenn on December 14, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Noneya is ill
Jamson64 on December 14, 2008 at 9:24 PM
A nazi reference -wow- I told ya…noneya is ill….sicker than the average troll.
Jamson64 on December 14, 2008 at 9:28 PM
You know what they say about free advice – it’s worth every penny.
In this case, no exception.
But thanks for being “thread mother.” /eyeroll
fossten on December 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM
What’s the over-under on it being an inside job?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 4:54 PM
About the same as me ever getting one of my comments posted at the DU or HuffPo. Isn’t it remarkable the hypocrisy of liberals. You are free to come and and throw thread bombs left and right. Well, mostly left. And any one of us would be moderated to death until we just gave up at a liberal site. I know because I gave up trying to post on them long ago. Why are liberals the way they are? Do you believe the tactics you use are fair? Do you believe the end justifies the means? You are everything and worse, what you claim we are.
hawkdriver on December 14, 2008 at 9:55 PM
From a longer AP article about the church’s services today that’s up now:
meltenn on December 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Stay classy, Noneya.
chunderroad on December 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I heard there were women doing crafts in the basement, too. That right there is enough to enrage me.
chunderroad on December 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Yeah, I tried several times to present logical arguments at Andy Sullivan’s favorite freak-o-blog, Palin’s Deceptions. They’re “moderating” their comment to only allow ones that suggest insane things like stealing used tampons from the garbage to get the Governor’s DNA.
It’s crazy! I was putting aside a couple hundred bucks a month to contribute to Sarah Palin’s PAC, but since she doesn’t have one yet, I sent that money to Wasilla Bible Church, even though I’m a Catholic. I figure the Pope and Sarah would approve.
Jim62sch on December 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I managed to get a comment posted over there once. It did not go over well with the other posters. I was polite and logical. They were not. I always feel like I need a shower after I read their latest posts.
That’s a lovely of you by the way.
meltenn on December 14, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Goodwin’s Law invoked. You lose.
Yoop on December 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM
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