Video: Suspicious fire at Palin’s church, $1M damage
posted at 7:53 am on December 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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A fire broke out at the Wasilla Bible Church yesterday while a group of women worked on crafts inside, all of whom escaped without injury. The church itself sustained an estimated one million dollars worth of damage, and investigators say that the fire looks like arson:
Gov. Sarah Palin’s home church has been badly damaged in a suspicious fire.
Larry Kroon, the pastor of the Wasilla Bible Church, estimates damages at more than $1 million to the church. …
Palin spokesman Bill McAllister said the governor stopped by the church Saturday morning and apologized if the incident was related to her.
In a written statement McAllister said Palin, “told an assistant pastor that she apologizes if the incident is in any way connected to the undeserved negative attention the church has received since she became a vice presidential candidate on Aug. 29. Whatever the motives of the arsonist, the governor has faith in the scriptural passage that what was intended for evil will in some way be used for good.”
It’s too early to know whether the fire has anything to do with Sarah Palin’s candidacy. Unfortunately, churches and other places of worship get attacked by nutcases for a wide variety of irrational reasons, and one cannot predict what made these nuts set fire to this Wasilla church. In one sense, it seems odd that the attack would come now, after the election, when passions have cooled somewhat and the Governor has returned to work.
Thankfully, the alarm and sprinkler systems did their job — an area of some expertise for me. They’re designed to save lives, and the women in the crafts group were at serious risk of injury or death without them. Too many older buildings skip or skimp on such systems, occasionally with tragic results. This church was built three years ago, and we can see how these building requirements work to save lives.
Hopefully, the police in Wasilla will catch the perpetrator(s) and we will know what their motivation was very quickly. Until then, regardless of your denomination, let’s keep the congregation of the Wasilla Bible Church in our prayers. If they have any fundraisers, we’ll revisit the story to get Hot Air readers involved.
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Something like this cannot last.
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Hey Newt, where can I mail the plane ticket to?
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
You are a snake! Leave then alone!
Hope you enjoy the nastiness coming to you, because you chose it!
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Proving your own ignorance and hatred. Bible Churches are painfully Protestant–which means no candles, or at least none burning while church isn’t happening. And you can forget about incense. The only thing stinking and burning is your hatred and ignorance, like setting a fart on fire.
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I believe that they have arrived. It just took them a while to wake up from their hangover.
meltenn on December 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
These people lost their church building… and YOU blame them for it! That’s the bottom line!
Hearts as frozen as yours cannot last!
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Hope you enjoy the nastiness coming to you, because you chose it!
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
You’re really big on snakes, huh? Is that meant to be a Genesis parallel? My question is, do I get to be the “pre-apple” snake where I apparently had legs OR “post-apple” where I get to bite all the ankles? Both sound cool but I think I’d prefer the former…I’m a pretty active and outdoors-y snake.
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
It seems that burning a Christian church has become an acceptable and praise-worthy M.O. for many Leftists and assorted snakes.
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I would find out if “Benny Shakar” & “Big S” have an alibi. Where were you Benny & Big S? Why do you smell like Gasoline?
portlandon on December 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
You’re evil.
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Naw…you just have to get to know me a little better.
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
People, if you get a chance, fight evil wherever you find it! This is not the time to be complacent.
Persecution of Christians in this land is coming, and it’s going to be rather nasty. It will only be a matter of time before congregants at a church are killed inside their building only because they’re “Christers”, “Bible-thumpers”, and the like.
No wonder the number of house-based churches are increasing!
newton on December 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Detroit has made cars that people do want. They make the cars that the transplants wont- affordable performance.
The only choices left would leave us like Europe. A root canal would be more painless than trying to get transplants to do the following:
* A 6-cylinder Honda Civic and a Toyota Solara with 8.
* Getting them to put more than I-4 under $20000, and an I-4 with a turbo under $40000.
* Toyota to do the same thing to cars that they did to trucks.
* Stop pointing us to their luxury brands when we ask for a V6, I6, or at the end of saying “performance”.
* Lifestyle environmentalists out of the car design studio.
Yet I see little substance other than “who annoys everyone else the most?”.
Besides, isn’t Mr. Palin a card-carrying Steelworker? Be careful how you aim that one.
sethstorm on December 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Hey, maybe THAT’S how the fire started. You know old people…always full of gas.
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Hm, not quite as much though. A lot of Palin fans and unionbusters give it a little more thought than just relying on the same old partisan canards.
ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM
You want irony? I’M PAGAN! Yes, a Goddess-worhipping, trusting on Her providence, polytheistic Pagan—and I believe that even those who do not worship as I do deserve respect. Religious freedom works both ways. BOTH WAYS!
So many, I will admit, come to Paganism in some state of rebellion from the Church. I can’t honestly say I was all that different. But I know I love and trust my gods, and that maybe Deity is less exercised about what you call Deity, so long as you call on Deity.
Burning a church is WRONG. Attacking a place of worship is WRONG—the only way it could be countenanced are situations where combatants hide in places of worship, in hopes of being allowed to attack at will. In which case, the defilers of the sacred were the ones hoping to hide behind the aegis of the house of worship, not the ones who blasted them out.
Who was holding a weapon in Palin’s church? Was someone perhaps threatened by the knitting needles of the crafting ladies? If so, is fire some kind of appropriate response to the imminent threat of crafting glue?
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 12:51 PM
It is either kids or the local gays. These things always backfire, she is getting a lot of national sympathy.
Firebird on December 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM
But the elephant in the room is that the American carmakers are not only having to be paying almost twice as much per hour, but are also per their union contracts paying retirees from their current profits on the balance sheet, rather than investment-based retirement plans.
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Did you think of that yourself, or did you ask your unionized middle school teacher for that comeback?
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 12:55 PM
It appears Levi Johnston will do anything to get outta that shotgun wedding!
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 2:51 AM
Spoken from a true ignorant person. Bet your breath spews of sewage.
Another sick sack of excrement heard from. Again, I am so glad the fags and libturds are so tolerant that the people inside were allowed to get out alive.
bill30097 on December 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Maybe you have a gay phobia! There are thousands of gays that didn’t want Prop 8 to pass. I know a few hundred here in Ca. that didn’t want it to pass. They are Conservatives! I think you have a tad of excrement yourself. To cast all Gays is not right. Oh, excuse me, you called them fags. Hate with hate. Lovely. This is about a church that was burned. Palin’s church. You both are a piece of work.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM
The problem is that the controversy is what gets brought out. Rationality is what seems to be a perpetual bench-warmer on both particular wings.
sethstorm on December 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM
The ladies didn’t start the fire. The fire started from the entrance probably by people like you who find burning churches amusing.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM
dk, what is the matter with you? Why are you even here? A church was set on fire, and you can’t stop yourself from cracking jokes. Yet I never see you comment on ANY of the other threads.
Give it a rest, you pathetic loser.
jimmy the notable on December 14, 2008 at 1:14 PM
jimmy, your website is almost as lame as your fellow Palin fanboy joey.
dakine on December 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM
I think it was the witch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFiyyFTF88
getalife on December 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM
The Church will get rebuilt, the person will get caught.
FYI people. It has been in the -10’s and such.. with a nice amount of snow on the ground. If it turns out to be the real deal arson…. and the guy is on foot, well you can figure it out.
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Ouch, that hurt. What happened, dk, login under the wrong false name? Can we check this dakine’s IP against dk? Surely the same person operating two different logins is grounds for a banning? That is only the kind of behavior that belongs to trolls.
And so because I don’t think that making jokes about arson are appropriate, that makes me a Palin fanboy?
Palin isn’t even mentioned on my “lame website.”
jimmy the notable on December 14, 2008 at 1:19 PM
LOL! Right as always, my friend. I was really hoping they wouldn’t troll this one, but I see they have much less class than I had given them credit for.
It’s so sad because I can in all honesty state that if this had happened to Trinity United, I would be deeply saddened and would condemn anyone who would do such a thing.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 1:20 PM
dakine, Keep choking on your “hotdog” and leave the discussion up to the mentally stable folks…
Didn’t I correctly remember that you threaten to kill the Governor on here before… I hope you aren’t in alaska starting fires… That would be horrible.
An Era of Hate on December 14, 2008 at 1:22 PM
And you didn’t have Allah ban dakine. Oh man… WHY!
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I vaguely remember somebody making a veiled threat about Palin that got AP made, but can’t remember the thread or if it was dakine.
It might have been during the Turkey thing. Or the Halloween lynching thing. Can’t remember…
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 1:27 PM
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Good Mid Morning upinak! Wish at times it snowed here. But, I never driven in snow. Am going to make Hearty Salmon Chowder today btw. Driving to Morro Bay to get the Salmon. Cannot wait to cook it!
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 1:30 PM
DK- Are you having fun? That’s alright, I like to go over to huffpo and do the same thing.
amynorw on December 14, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Gee, if that had been a black church, the ATFE would have found some white guy, shot his wife, son, and dog, burned down his church, and claimed to the worled he was guilty before conducting any investigation. I guess that is the difference between arson at a white church and at a black church.
federale86 on December 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM
**smiles**
Good I hope you emjoy it!
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:39 PM
I already made my ATFE jokes yesterday, but my jokes were centered on the bureaus never-ending addition of initials to make themselves relevant. (They added “Explosives”. I think next up will be “Copyright Infringement” followed by “Cable Theft”.)
I really don’t see how this is a white or black thing. It’s more likely a liberal vs. conservative thing. If it were a conservative black church no one would care. Think of Rev. Mannings black church in Harlem. He’s been railing against Obama for over a year, and no one gives him the time of day. If someone set fire to his little church, how much coverage do you think it would get?
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Ok so Alaska with it’s white “church” in the middle of winter at -10 and some black “church” where?
Give me a break.. someone who is lighting a church on fire, whether it be black white or pink with purple spots, is wrong…. period!
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:43 PM
A million-dollars damage? You could buy an IL senate seat for that amount!
andycanuck on December 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM
**smiles**
Good I hope you emjoy it!
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 1:39 PM
**smiles back**
My stomach is growling with craving right now. I best get in the shower and get human. Going to the docks to get fresh Salmon. I will enjoy. Wanted to eat the paper last night! :)
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Why use that word? What have you acheived other than making Republicans look and sound like haters? Do you understand that there are many gay conservatives? Do you care whom you offend?
I doubt my remarks will make a dent in such a dense thicket of anger. I’m sure you quite proud of yourself.
Also I’m pretty fed up with this “tard” suffix being used to castigate some person or persons as dumb. Mental retardation is a condition affecting many people. We cruelly marginalize those people by tossing out referential terms so cavalierly.
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:51 PM
BS. The myth about black church burnings has doubly cofounded you. Many churches of many denominations are attacked by a broad range of idiots. Do a google search on some relevant terms and educate yourself.
Everything is not an issue of race…even for haters like you.
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:52 PM
You’re the one with “The Race Card” as your user name.
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM
And?
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM
It was probably some wacko Code Pink lefty moonbat like yourself, who hates Christians, who set the fire.
fossten on December 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Today at church we pray for a church.
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Also I’m pretty fed up with this “tard” suffix being used to castigate some person or persons as dumb. Mental retardation is a condition affecting many people. We cruelly marginalize those people by tossing out referential terms so cavalierly.
The Race Card on December 14, 2008 at 1:51 PM
I respect many posts that you write. If per chance I ever used that word. (don’t think I did) I truly apologize. You are right on target! I just get upset when all Gays are attacked. I personally know a few hundred. You would never know it unless they told you. Some very upstanding Conservatives too. Thank you for your post. Very intelligently written indeed! :)
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Think they’ve pulled the passenger logs for flights from San Fransisco to Anchorage Yet? If not, that’d probably be a good starting point.
BiasedGirl on December 14, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Mmmm, saaaalmon, (drools)
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I doubt this was for any insurance-related business or to cover any malfeasance. An entrance was targeted, and people were in the church. If someone wanted to cover their tracks, they would choose a time when the church was unoccupied and would make fer-darn-sure the business office got the brunt of it.
This looks like malice on the part of the arsonist was the motive. Seems the lefties on here are quite proud of the acts of this sick individual. If someone had burned Trinity United, I am sure pretty much everybody on this board would be denouncing this. Can’t the liberals on this board manage a simple, “burning churches is bad, sorry this happened?”
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Okay, question from stupid Southern Californian city slicker: You can still catch salmon this time of year? How? Ice fishing?
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Yes, deep sea salmon.
upinak on December 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Let’s not jump to conclusions. The worst thing about the anti-Prop 8 mob is that all gays are being tarnished by the actions of these jerks. It’s like the Act-Up protesters in the 90s who were so destructive.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Okay, question from stupid Southern Californian city slicker: You can still catch salmon this time of year? How? Ice fishing?
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:05 PM
LOL! Not a stupid Southern Californian! I have tons of family there! I go to the docks at Morro Bay or San Luis Port. They have Salmon that comes off the boats. Don’t know where they get it. I will ask them though.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Wow. You guys really work for your food up there. I just go to Trader Joes. *ramrocks smiles sheepishly and feels small*
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Can’t the liberals on this board manage a simple, “burning churches is bad, sorry this happened?”
Sekhmet on December 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Exactly! Liberal’s pretty much don’t acknowledge anything that is just Bad. Any church that burns is bad. Don’t think they know the word sorry either.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 2:16 PM
LOL! Dang, you really work for that salmon! You go right to the port. I just go to Trader Joes! But I bet you make some amazing salmon chowder.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM
LOL! Dang, you really work for that salmon! You go right to the port. I just go to Trader Joes! But I bet you make some amazing salmon chowder.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM
This will be first time. Got recipe on a e mail news letter. Clam Chowder I do make great. I am a Gourmet Chef. Trader Joes is wonderful place too. A very wonderful lady on here is the one that submitted the recipe. I will make you guess who she is………..
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 2:21 PM
It was just a rehearsal for Obams’s approaching Kristallnacht pogrom.
snaggletoothie on December 14, 2008 at 2:25 PM
what a crock! i find it hard to believe you know one gay person let alone a FEW HUNDRED who are against gay marriage out of THOUSANDS who voted against Prop. 8. Now you are right about one thing, there are many gay conservatives. Many gays have a lot of disposable income they do not want taxed heavily. Which is why it’s a shame that, similar to the attitude towards blacks and hispanics, the GOP’s social conservatism is hostile to them and they feel unwanted in the party.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM
this is actually one of the kinder comments i’ve gotten here at HA.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Oh, I think you’ve cornered that particular market.
Dark-Star on December 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Cut the “dk” loser a little slack.
Were he not venting his deep-seated insecurities here he probably would be exacerbating his Carpal Tunnel Syndrome at the adult theater.
viking01 on December 14, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Neither Obama or Biden supported gay marriage. And their voters in California did not either. So why do you target the GOP’s social conservatives? Why is the GOP “hostile” but not the Dems under Obama and Biden?
The voters in this country do not want gay marriage. Civil unions is another matter, and I would support them and so would many others.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Obama and Biden want the states to decide. They were against Prop. 8. The GOP wants a federal amendment banning it and the social cons act as if gays are less than human. But I didn’t really mean for this to turn into another gay marriage thread, that’s for the 99% of the other ones.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 2:42 PM
As a whole:
53 percent of Hispanics voted yes; 52% of the electorate voted yes.
By gender:
54% of Hispanic males voted yes. 53% of males voted yes.
52% of both Hispanic women and women in general voted yes.
Poor hispanics voting yes for prop 8 !! how dare they!
70% of African Americans backed Prop. 8, exit poll finds
Poor African Americans voting yes for prop8 !!! they should be a shame!
An Era of Hate on December 14, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Heh. Black Americans. They register Democrat, and then vote Baptist.
Kristopher on December 14, 2008 at 2:48 PM
I find it hard to believe that you know ANY blacks if you don’t recognize that on a lot of social issues, blacks are, well, conservative.
ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM
dk on December 14, 2008 at 11:53 AM
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM
dk on December 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
There’s always something burning at church; candles, incense, non-christian literature and science books, the truth, common sense, etc.
Your heart has burned – away. I’d be surprised if there’s anything left but ashes.
Esthier on December 14, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Yup!
Personally, it really surprises me how often people take that one Bible passage about a rich man entering into the kingdom of God out of context. Its become just as misused and abused as “Judge not lest ye be judged.”
Well, that’s what I think anyway. It kind of struck me as I was reflecting on Matthew 25:14-30. The left is too quick to verbally smack people like Franklin Graham for being rich. Why should it matter, as long as we glorify God with it?
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM
#1. 2 words: Hate. Crime.
#2. I wrote America’s Gov’r the following:
Please consider writing America’s Governor/Mrs. Claus…
HotAirJosef on December 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Most of the urban blacks I have known (military and executives excepted) are very conservative on Sunday but the complete opposite the rest of the week. Much like a song on the radio or movie on the screen whereby once it has played through it’s over until the next time it comes on.
viking01 on December 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Well that didn’t take long,..a bombing at a bank and now a Church burning. Sounds like someone is trying to be like Ayers and husseins cousin Odinga.
christene on December 14, 2008 at 3:03 PM
(my comments with regard to postings at 2:48 and 2:54)
viking01 on December 14, 2008 at 3:03 PM
which is why the anti-abortion, pro-Prop. 8 GOP presidential candidate won 5% of them? But you are right many are social conservative but they also would never in a million years vote republican, and the fiscal issues are mostly why.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Which vastly alters your original statement. Nice going.
ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM
what a crock! i find it hard to believe you know one gay person let alone a FEW HUNDRED who are against gay marriage out of THOUSANDS who voted against Prop. 8. Now you are right about one thing, there are many gay conservatives. Many gays have a lot of disposable income they do not want taxed heavily. Which is why it’s a shame that, similar to the attitude towards blacks and hispanics, the GOP’s social conservatism is hostile to them and they feel unwanted in the party.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Dumb Ass, my son is Gay. I know a lot of Gays. Screw you anyway. You are trash! There you go again. Putting Ethnics in there also. You are a real true idiot.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM
I was waiting for you, I knew you wouldn’t let that go. Good job.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM
if he is so self-loathing he’s against gay marriage, your “tolerance” explains why
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I was waiting for you, I knew you wouldn’t let that go. Good job.
Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM
I was in the shower. Had to see what was up on here. Hate to be mean. But she is a very hateful person. Thanks Cindy. Being a mother of a Gay young man. I had joined PFlag years ago to be with people who are in the same situation. I do know hundreds of Gays. They are people too. Regardless of what others believe. I have respected many posters on here. Is the way one comes across. That is all.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Note to Noneya : The first African American candiate was running against John McCain….
Don’t you think that had something to do with it idiot?
An Era of Hate on December 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM
if he is so self-loathing he’s against gay marriage, your “tolerance” explains why
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Don’t know why I am responding to a monkey, which you are. Many Gays feel that Prop 8 was a hate machine for more violence and repercussions against them. You are to stupid to know this. You live in a cave with a one track mind. Heaven help your sorry ass.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Well, you have to remember that this dk guy has probably never put in an honest day’s work in his life, has probably lived an easy life–never had to struggle to make ends meet, never had to support a family, mainly because someone is probably working their butt off to support him as he blows his parents’ hard-earned money drinking himself senseless at college keggers. Added to that, he was probably spoiled rotten as a child. Values such as compassion, faith, respect, integrity, honor, and duty are words that he just sniggers at.
You can’t talk to people like him–you can’t reach them. All you can do is hope that one day they either grow up or go away.
Matt Helm on December 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM
That makes no sense. There was little to no violence against gays in the 6 months it was legal before the vote. You are just making things up now, and from your abusive manner, I’m wondering if it was you your son was afraid of.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM
So, betting pool:
Is it the Prop 8 mobsters, or the Obama thug cultists? I know there’s some overlap, of course, but they are the most likely perpetrators.
BKennedy on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM
That makes no sense. There was little to no violence against gays in the 6 months it was legal before the vote. You are just making things up now, and from your abusive manner, I’m wondering if it was you your son was afraid of.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM
You do live in a cave. Do you think the Media has reported on violence against Gays? Here in Ca. there has been many violent acts towards Gays by other Gays. My son is a very intelligent man. He feels civil marriages are fine. What a nit wit you are. And very ignorant. The stench is getting strong with your breath.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM
So, betting pool:
Is it the Prop 8 mobsters, or the Obama thug cultists? I know there’s some overlap, of course, but they are the most likely perpetrators.
BKennedy on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM
One never knows who set the fire. I am not arguing that it could have been done by a Gay person. Or another hateful Obamabot. We don’t know. I get tired of All Gays being targeted. Good point though you made.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Oh, you misunderstand. A Prop 8 mobster has two key features:
They are generally white.
They are always liberal.
One need not be homosexual to be a Prop 8 mobster. In fact, my bet is the most extreme elements of the Prop 8 cabal are white straight liberals under the age of 30.
BKennedy on December 14, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Why is it every time someone goes with their personal preferences and votes outside their little ready-made pigeon hole (i.e. Black conservatives, pro-8 homosexuals) its always people like you who seek to marginalize them, write their behavior off and/or call them self hating? That really disturbs me. You’re like the guys that threw Oreos at Michael Steele.
Calm down. A militant attitude serves no purpose other than to piss people off.
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 3:39 PM
violence towards gays by other gays before the vote passed? doubtful. maybe it was your self-loathing son pushing discrimination against his own kind that caused that. and just because the media doesn’t report it, that doesn’t mean it does happen either, if it does i’m thinking it’s mostly in that violent mind of yours.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Interesting. Ever notice the same people who love to quote, “Judge not, that ye be not judged,” on any question of morality see nothing wrong with judging a church for spending too much on a building.
I don’t know that this applies to rockdalian specifically, but I’ve seen it enough from other people to notice it.
theregoestheneighborhood on December 14, 2008 at 3:40 PM
If you’re interested in praying for our country, you can go here:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Truth
And light a virtual candle. It will “burn” for 48 hours.
UnderstandingisPower on December 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM
HotAirJosef on December 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM
I already did that. Was it supposed to just bring me right back to the form after I submitted the message?
Dunno, since my JavaScript is disabled.
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Tell it to President Alan Keyes.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM
because Prop. 8 is one single issue affecting his/her own civil rights. how many blacks would vote for jim crow?
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Allah, Ed, Michelle,
Congratulations on your accomplishment. Who could have guessed a blog as promising as HotAir once was could sink so quickly? I suppose if I cared more I’d quote some of the hateful garbage that passes for legitimate discussion here, but I rarely visit here much anymore. When I do it is to see if anyone has reined in the crap and to check for the re-appearance of many original & substantive commentors who used to frequent this site. Kudos to all the newbies who helped with its demise. Raise your glasses of Kool-aid to toast one another for a job well done. Mazel tov!
NightmareOnKStreet on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Wah ha ha!
Alan Keyes, who didn’t even have the GOP’s nomination! The guy who finished so far down he wasn’t in the running to see Hunter quit!
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Oh, you misunderstand. A Prop 8 mobster has two key features:
They are generally white.
They are always liberal.
One need not be homosexual to be a Prop 8 mobster. In fact, my bet is the most extreme elements of the Prop 8 cabal are white straight liberals under the age of 30.
BKennedy on December 14, 2008 at 3:37 PM
No, I understood what you meant. There are many straights that don’t care at all. They back Prop 8 no matter what they have to give up. You are correct!
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:50 PM
violence towards gays by other gays before the vote passed? doubtful. maybe it was your self-loathing son pushing discrimination against his own kind that caused that. and just because the media doesn’t report it, that doesn’t mean it does happen either, if it does i’m thinking it’s mostly in that violent mind of yours.
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:39 PM
You are a real cesspool of ignorance. If you are that stupid, and believe in the fairy tales in your mind. A true fukking Troll at her best.
sheebe on December 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Cue Allah telling you to “go somewhere else then” in 5…4…3…2…1…
fossten on December 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Noneya on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM
So you think YOU know what’s best for them and how YOU’RE going to make it all better? Typical arrogance.
Blacks couldn’t even vote when the Jim Crow laws were in effect. Nice try.
Ryan Gandy on December 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM
My gay conservative friends are against gay marriage because they think it’s needlessly confrontational towards religious groups who oppose it. They think civil unions is the best way to go. I think so too.
ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM
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