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Video: McCain declines to endorse Palin for 2012

posted at 1:59 pm on December 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Think how easy it would have been to throw her a bone without committing to anything, e.g., “It’s too early to be making endorsements when we don’t know who’s running or what the issues will be, but naturally she’s my preference going into it.” It would have made for an awkward soundbite three years from now if he ended up endorsing someone else, but endorsing someone else will be sufficiently awkward on its own terms that that soundbite would hardly make it worse.

Consider this another brick in the reconstruction of his centrist brand. (More on that in the next post.) Exit question: What exactly does he mean when he answers Steph’s point about endorsing her for VP just six weeks ago by saying, “Well sure, but now we’re in a whole election cycle”? What’s changed in six weeks, besides her usefulness to him? Click the image to watch.


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I feel compelled to point out that in the future closed primaries and caucuses should be the policy of the GOP.

liquidflorian on December 14, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Guessing the same way you think you know the opposite darwin.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM

dd, you don’t get out much if you think a stupid person can’t be a phony. Describes most of the salesmen I’ve ever met.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM

You must not know very many salesmen if you don’t realize that a stupid salesman won’t be a salesman for long. Bill Clinton, for example, was one of the sharpest.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM

We can thank Mike Huckabee and what happened in West Virginia for loser McCain. I will do everything in my power to see that people never forget the Huckabee/McCain conspiracy!!

120pages on December 14, 2008 at 3:13 PM

katy, let’s be honest. You somehow relate to Palin because you think she’s like you and understands your problems.

Never said that. That is a left talking point meant to condescend the conservatives who supported her. It’s not always about the amount of information a person has but the way in which they processs the information they gain. Sarah has the wisdom to make sound decisions as she gains the info. That’s what I look for. Any idiot can retain information. What one does with it determines a leader. and Palin has that wisdom.

katy on December 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM

120pages on December 14, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Now you’ve done it. We’re going to have the pro Huckabee forces here along with the anti-Palin folks. Popcorn?

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Guessing the same way you think you know the opposite darwin.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Don’t presume to know what I think. I asked how you know she’s illiterate and has no intellectual curiousity and your answer is you guess? If you guess, then start off your insults with “I’m guessing Palin …”

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:17 PM

dd, phonies come in all intellectual stripes. Anyway, my point is not that Palin is retarded and thus incapable of pulling off the phony thing. She’s plenty smart enough for any number of jobs, just not POTUS. Do yourself a favor and watch her VP debate performance again, and then watch her 2006 debate when she was running for gov of Alaska. Her phoniness will be quite obvious to even a fan like you.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM

This is just crazy asking about 2012. Obama hasn’t even been in sworn in, yet. Can’t we at least until the 2010 is over, before reading tea leaves about the 2012 election?

thuja on December 14, 2008 at 2:03 PM

This is nothing new. Don’t you remember December 2004, when the GOP was already saying we had to nominate Rudy as he was the only one who could defeat Hillary in 2008? I sure do, because the Rudy supporters were already throwing us conservatives out of the Party or calling us worthless or Hillary supporters and destroyers of the nation if we didn’t immediately throw our support behind Rudy to keep us from a Hillary Administration.

So, nothing new here. Instead of a political party standing for principles and values, all it cares about is how to win elections, no matter if that means standing on principle or throwing those principles to the wind in order to win votes.

Michael in MI on December 14, 2008 at 3:19 PM

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 3:03 PM

I guess he has only to vote for the Democrat nominee to really show that willingness. Who knows, maybe he already did?

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Please darwin…save the righteous indignation. I don’t know Gov. Palin. I’ve never met Gov. Palin. I base my opinion regarding her intellectual horsepower on electronic and print interviews with the Governor. How ’bout you?

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Palin is stupid, or corrupt, or whatever bad bad bad thing your gurus can think of.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:08 PM

i never said either of those things about her. i’m certainly not a trig-truther. i was outraged and angry about what liberals (actual liberals, not anyuone who disagrees with “real” conservatives kind of liberals) unleashed against her.

you see, to the extent that you pds suffering “real” conservatives have established that there were two opposing poles to the gop’s 2008 ticket, i can say that i was gracious enough to defend your side of it, even while you attacked “juan mcshamnesty” with greater fury than you attacked obama.

that’s why i don’t respect your opinions.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM

It is TOO EARLY for anyone to endorse anyone else for 2012. Hence, I think what John McCain said in the video clip is just fine.

Phil Byler on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM

It is absolutely amazing how low the standards have fallen for conservatives over the past 8 years. Everyone saying that she has “more experience than Obama” as if that is some kind of selling point, Obama didn’t have nearly enough experience, and either does Palin. Its as if that Illinois Gov would come out and say, “well look at how corrupt Ted Stevens of Alaska was” as a defense for his nonsense. Just stop. Palin isnt near qualified. If she actually ran for president she would get torn to PIECES during the 2 year long campaign. It took the media less than a month to make her look like a bumbling idiot in this campaign, and the perception of her outside of the republican party is that she is an absolute dope. 2 years of campaigning and constant media coverage and a LOT more media exposure, and you can guarantee a democratic win, again.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

I voted for Palin, not McCain.

Onager on December 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Benedict Mc Cain

Rick007 on December 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Huckabee likes Palin almost as much as Romney. Look at what happened to Romney. Those trendy glasses aren’t going to stop Huckabee from tearing her a new one.

foreverright on December 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM

She’s plenty smart enough for any number of jobs, just not POTUS. Do yourself a favor and watch her VP debate performance again, and then watch her 2006 debate when she was running for gov of Alaska. Her phoniness will be quite obvious to even a fan like you.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM

I watched the VP debate, and she seemed quite capable. Actually, she mopped the floor with Biden. What do you mean by “phoniness”? A glibness that papers over inadequacies? God, could I name a list of Dem pols that fit that to a tee.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I’m still waiting on Tapper’s Barracuda to show up.

meltenn on December 14, 2008 at 2:17 PM

That Tapper article is so weird. They quote only political opponents she beat. They quote stories that no one else ever mentioned. The $50,000 office repair? I’ve never heard that anywhere before. Or how about the thing about Nick Carney not actually proposing the bill that would only benefit his company. He didn’t actually propose the bill, he was just called in as an “expert witness”. Gee, an expert witness for a bill that would benefit his company! No, I don’t see a conflict of interest there! And no mention of the fact that Stein had increased his pay and ignore the intent, if not the letter, of the term limits law. And no mention of Lyda Green’s abortion special session maneuver (because the readers might not sympathize with Green if they knew that) and her behavior towards Palin. And the clothes thing. Why do we assume that she was a shop-a-holic for getting a suit from Ann Taylor? Maybe she needed something and the other suits needed dry cleaning? Who knows? I mean, the lady’s Alaska wardrobe was very limited. She needed clothes. If McCain held that against her, then he is even more of a petty jerk than I thought.

Oh, and the best part of the Tapper bs-article is the suggestion that Dan Fagan is “a longtime friend”! What?! This guy hated Palin from the moment she ran for governor.

Here’s an excerpt from Kaylene Johnson’s bio of Palin:

Meanwhile, the [Republican] old guard didn’t know what to make of the young populist candidate, especially when she began moving up in the polls despite their best efforts to either discredit her or support her opponents.

‘Anyone who was part of the establishment fought against her. [Talk show host] Dan Fagan clawed, fought, ridiculed, embarrassed, and deliberately misrepresented Sarah,’ Bailey said. Disparaging remarks on radio programs sometimes backfired. Fagan showed up at the Palin campaign headquarters one morning to clarify a point before his daily show. Waiting at the front desk was a man who took one look at Fagan and dug out his checkbook. ‘This is your fault,’ he said, waving his checkbook in the air. ‘Every time you bash this woman on the air, I’m down here writing another $500 check. Cut it out.’”
[emphasis added]

But now he’s “a longtime friend”. Tapper’s article is bs from beginning to end. I’ve looked at the campaign literature from Palin’s first mayoral run, and I see nothing about abortion or electing a “Christian mayor” or any such nonsense. I see a lot of stuff about cutting taxes, enforcing term limits, and attracting business. The term “whisper campaign” is another way for the MSM to spread bs lies without having to actual prove them. It was “whispered” — as in no one said it aloud or can even remember hearing it, but it was “felt”. WTF?! This is nonsense.

ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM

most important she lives and breathes values that many hard working, taxpaying, liberty loving people carry. She speaks in reality and practical terms people understand and not in ethereal platitudes.

katy on December 14, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Never said that. That is a left talking point meant to condescend the conservatives who supported her.

katy on December 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Palin isnt near qualified.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Bullshit. She’s over 35 and a “natural-born citizen”.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM

She’s plenty smart enough for any number of jobs, just not POTUS.

I dare say if Obama had been selected with such short notice and had to face a hostile media whose sole intent was to embarrass and destroy him, he would have collapsed like a deflated ballon. Biden himself made so many flubs if not for the helping hand of the media the general public would have laughed him off the stage.

What you’re missing is how well she actually performed under conditions that would have destroyed most candidates. What you deem as incompetence was nothing less than a show of her stamina, toughness and intellect.

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

If she actually ran for president she would get torn to PIECES during the 2 year long campaign. It took the media less than a month to make her look like a bumbling idiot in this campaign, and the perception of her outside of the republican party is that she is an absolute dope. 2 years of campaigning and constant media coverage and a LOT more media exposure, and you can guarantee a democratic win, again.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Explain one thing to me, muyoso. If all that is true, why do the Democrats hate her so much?

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

@ ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM

And my point is cemented. If that is all you look for in a politician, you are a dummy. I have a LOT more qualifications that need to be met before I vote for the next leader of the free world. Conservative standards have literally hit rock bottom after Bush.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

@ ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Why do democrats hate her? That is easy as hell to answer. They think she is a moron, and they knew that she was popular as hell among republicans. They were afraid of in their mind, an absolute moron becoming president of the United States, and that fear turned into hate. Anything else?

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Huckabee likes Palin almost as much as Romney. Look at what happened to Romney. Those trendy glasses aren’t going to stop Huckabee from tearing her a new one.

foreverright on December 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM

The Huckster sees her the same way all RINO’s see her. As a threat to their brand of conservatism which is what got us here. The sooner we rid the political world of excrement like Huckabee the better!

conservnut on December 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM

@ darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Why are you comparing her to Obama, YET AGAIN. Are we shooting for the bottom? Don’t we want someone that is leagues better than Obama?

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:30 PM

@ ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Why do democrats hate her? That is easy as hell to answer. They think she is a moron, and they knew that she was popular as hell among republicans. They were afraid of in their mind, an absolute moron becoming president of the United States, and that fear turned into hate. Anything else?

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM

But that’s a contradiction. Palin is such a moron she can’t possibly win, but yet the Dems fear her winning? Eh? LOL

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I feel compelled to point out that in the future closed primaries and caucuses should be the policy of the GOP.

liquidflorian on December 14, 2008 at 3:11 PM

and of course anyone who disagrees is a RINO.

“real” conservatives seek to adopt the democrat model.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM

The last thing Sarah Palin or Bobby Jindal need from McCain is his endorsement. That would begin to sink their chances.

McCain needs to go off into the twilight. His chance came, and he failed.

His problem is that he really has no underlying philosophy. He is too scatterbrained on many issues.

Sarah will have to articulate HER philosophy beliefs if she wants to win nationally. She will not be able to if she commits the same mistakes of McCain of not standing for anything.

Create Vision
Communicate Vision with a book media circuit
Work with RNC to mesh her’s and RNC’s overall
Campaign to help other GOP
Make decision on 2012.

Sapwolf on December 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Please darwin…save the righteous indignation. I don’t know Gov. Palin. I’ve never met Gov. Palin. I base my opinion regarding her intellectual horsepower on electronic and print interviews with the Governor. How ’bout you?

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Then you’re not as savvy as you think. How about her record as governor? That would be a good place to start instead of relying on a media you know will do everything in their power to paint the exact picture you’re telling us.

You’re very susceptible to suggestion I take it …

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I feel compelled to point out that in the future closed primaries and caucuses should be the policy of the GOP.

liquidflorian on December 14, 2008 at 3:11 PM

+1

You’re dead to a lot of us Juan Queeg…Palin was th4e ONLY reason I backed you with money and time….

retire and fade away you 1st Amendment hating La Raza Loving tool

sven10077 on December 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Geez, he really is a worm.

We must remember what happened to us when we chose the lesser of two evils. I actually supported him, went to rallies, donated, made phone calls. Now I just feel dirty.

JustTruth101 on December 14, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Don’t feel bad. It was not McCain we campaigned for, it was AGAINST Obama to prevent what we perceive as a Marxist type from being President. If Bill Clinton ran against McCain, I would have been tempted to vote for BillyJeff.

Sapwolf on December 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM

And my point is cemented. If that is all you look for in a politician, you are a dummy. I have a LOT more qualifications that need to be met before I vote for the next leader of the free world. Conservative standards have literally hit rock bottom after Bush.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

OK, the next Ivy League grad that has published scholarly, respected work on foreign policy and the history of economic thought; who can play the piano and violin as easily as he/she can pilot the personal yacht; who writes poetry that will melt the heart and steel the intellect; ahhhh, that one has my vote.

In other words, you either have an unrealistic standard or one that shifts based on personal preference, like most of us

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM

@ darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Why are you comparing her to Obama, YET AGAIN. Are we shooting for the bottom? Don’t we want someone that is leagues better than Obama?

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:30 PM

I’m not …

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Please darwin…save the righteous indignation. I don’t know Gov. Palin. I’ve never met Gov. Palin. I base my opinion regarding her intellectual horsepower on electronic and print interviews with the Governor. How ’bout you?

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Are you impressed with Obama’s intellectual prowess on that basis? Wow, you’re easy to please.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Although I have no idea who our nominee should be in 2012 I must point out that the Dems called President Reagan a moron also. That’s pretty good company.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM

What you deem as incompetence was nothing less than a show of her stamina, toughness and intellect.

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

spin bordering on newspeak. you literally just said that incompetence is competence.

listen, she couldn’t identify or explain the bush doctrine. that’s not a curveball question.

and her performance in the biden debate was a substanceless recital of catchphrases set to the tune of a garrison kiellor routine.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM

I feel compelled to point out that in the future closed primaries and caucuses should be the policy of the GOP.

liquidflorian on December 14, 2008 at 3:11 PM
and of course anyone who disagrees is a RINO.

“real” conservatives seek to adopt the democrat model.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Primaries should be closed period. Repubs. only should vote to run a Repub. candidate. Open primaries are not the way to get change within the GOP. That is how you get watered down candidates who nobody can tell where they stand.

Sapwolf on December 14, 2008 at 3:37 PM

“real” conservatives seek to adopt the democrat model.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Because we want to “grow up” just like you. No thanks.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM

right. the left call fredrik von hyek a moron too.

they call reagan a moron, but reagan was smart. so, if a lefty says the moon is made of rock, it’s really green cheese?

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Primaries should be closed period. Repubs. only should vote to run a Repub. candidate. Open primaries are not the way to get change within the GOP. That is how you get watered down candidates who nobody can tell where they stand.

Sapwolf on December 14, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Absolutely, 100 % correct!!

Red State State of Mind on December 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM

spin bordering on newspeak. you literally just said that incompetence is competence.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM

No, I “literally” did not say that, you did. If you can’t comprehend what I wrote I’m not going to expalin it. What is it with you guys? Are you a journalist? Are you an Obamabot?

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

darwin and dd, I’ll just refer you to eh and myuso. They get it. BTW, I’m in a business where I’m exposed to various movers and shakers in the Dem party. These folks are smart, successful and no BS. They don’t fear Palin. They really don’t hate her either. They view her as a bumbling, fundamentalist buffoon, and would be more than happy to see her become the face of the GOP.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM

It is quite interesting (and pathetic really) that if you ask the average voter about Sarah Palin, they can rattle off every meme of the mass media about her, yet they know nothing about her accomplishments as mayor, her accomplishments as part of an energy company in Alaska, her part of stopping corruption as Governor or her part of getting the pipeline approved with Canada as Governor. The first thing from most voters is a line from a Katie Couric interview or a SNL sketch.

That is the power of the mass media and the utter ignorance and gullibility of the American public.

If that is the new arena of American politics, that is just plain sad.

The true comparison for Sarah Palin is not to compare her to Obama, but to compare her and her accomplishments and political experience to every other female politician today. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Governor Granholm of Michigan, etc. She stands up quite well to all of them, not that anyone even knows that, thanks to the smear campaign of the mass media and the utter incompetence of the McCain campaign.

Michael in MI on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

I had to hold my nose to vote for him, so this doesn’t surprise me. Palin has more class then O or McCain combined and that’s why she has a political future and McCain will have to struggle just to get re-elected to the Senate. Wonder if he’ll need her to campaign for him? That would be rich.

Done That on December 14, 2008 at 3:43 PM

What you deem as incompetence was nothing less than a show of her stamina, toughness and intellect.

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM

spin bordering on newspeak. you literally just said that incompetence is competence.

listen, she couldn’t identify or explain the bush doctrine. that’s not a curveball question.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM

What are you calling “incompetence”? Of course the Bush Doctrine question was a “gotcha”. When was Obama asked something similar? IIRC, to Obama the “Bush Doctrine” means not talking to countries you suspect of sponsoring terrorism.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM

He [McCain] is such a piece of you-know-what. I’m just stunned. I have no respect left for this man.

ramrocks on December 14, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Cue wise_man’s head exploding in 5…4…3…2…1…

fossten on December 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM

They view her as a bumbling, fundamentalist buffoon, and would be more than happy to see her become the face of the GOP.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Great! Then no need to send hordes of “journalists” up to Alaska next time.

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Why don’t you lay your definition of a “real” conservative out there so everyone knows what they have to live up to. All you do is tear down and criticize everyone but you say nothing constructive. Oh, I am sorry, occasionally you encourage us all to adopt the things that democrats do. Please we need a definition, we are so tired of disappointing you.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM

McCain still harbors this strange delusion that we were voting for him.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 2:15 PM

WELL SAID!! I didn’t really vote for McCain, I voted for Palin and against Obama/Biden/Marx

I would think that an ex-navy captain would have a little more loyatly to those who served with him. He had it once but it seems to have evaporated.

I also heard that he’s saying that people should lay off the obama senator-seat/Obamamansion scandal.. WHY?? I think he needs to have someone at breakfast showing him pics of dems and saying Op-Pon-Ent and pics of republicans saying Fri-end, Fri-end…

His freaking corpse wasn’t warm during most of the campaign.

And, as others have said here. If it weren’t for Palin, he would have been completely humilated. You almost have to wonder, given the lame campaign he ran, if he really wanted to win or not…

bullseye on December 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM

What a f ing loser. Siding with Obama on Blago, throwing Palin under the bus AGAIN and probably has already negotiated the resurgence of the amnesty offensive. How the hell did we ever get stuck with this jerk? The very least that should be done is to get his worthless a$$ on the other side. Getting him out of politics all together seems to be too much to ask of Arizona. Thanks Arizona, thanks a lot. Frankly I would rather a Democrat takes his seat. At least then the treasonous self destructing actions would make sense.

America1st on December 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Michael in MI on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Absolutely … calling Palin incompetent means calling many other female politicians worse.

darwin on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM

It is quite interesting (and pathetic really) that if you ask the average voter about Sarah Palin, they can rattle off every meme of the mass media about her, yet they know nothing about her accomplishments as mayor, her accomplishments as part of an energy company in Alaska, her part of stopping corruption as Governor or her part of getting the pipeline approved with Canada as Governor. The first thing from most voters is a line from a Katie Couric interview or a SNL sketch.

Michael in MI on December 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM

ABSOLUTELY! Which goes back to:

…a bigger problem is the leftward-leaning who rely on the DNC and the media to supply their “intellect”.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 2:34 PM

hmm. explain.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 2:38 PM

QED.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM

McCain still harbors this strange delusion that we were voting for him.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 2:15 PM

You might be correct hear.

Another explanation is that McCain really resents the fact that he was so dependent on Sarah for votes. And based on his history with women, this is eating him up inside.

He tries to run again and he will look so foolish. It would be like Bob Dole running again in 2000 in the primaries.

Foolish man.

Move aside and let the GOP try to rebuild and prepare for 2010.

Sapwolf on December 14, 2008 at 3:49 PM

What are you calling “incompetence”? Of course the Bush Doctrine question was a “gotcha”. When was Obama asked something similar? IIRC, to Obama the “Bush Doctrine” means not talking to countries you suspect of sponsoring terrorism.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Also, as I understand it, the bush doctrine has evolved a bit over time.

What about Biden, the expert, blowing the question on what clause is the operative clause for the VP and his complete disaster of an answer on the middle east, quoting lots of impossible things and things that never happened.

You are also correct that I don’t remember obamema being asked any hard questions at all. Just general crap to allow him to read from his teleprompter.

Oh, and what about his “I’ll bankrupt the coal industry” message.. You would think the press would ask how then he plans to power those wittle ewectwic cars.

Anyway, Mccain has proven himself to be a disloyal twit.

bullseye on December 14, 2008 at 3:51 PM

it’s not even worth it. they don’t even know what a conservative is. it’s like arguing with a parrot. it will always just sqwauk back at you without comprehending what you said. and these parrots have been taught to squawk “faith, family, borders!” by morons like sean hannity.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:54 PM

“You almost have to wonder, given the lame campaign he ran, if he really wanted to win or not…”

I have said it before and I will say it again. Soros funded McCain in a big way for his entire 8 yrs in exile after he lost in 2000. Soros enabled him to keep his ENTIRE staff employed and working together. Is it really surprising that it seems like he never really wanted to win?

Soros bankrolled both candidates. Soros won the election. This is a huge story with zero coverage.

America1st on December 14, 2008 at 3:55 PM

What about Biden, the expert, blowing the question on…

bullseye on December 14, 2008 at 3:51 PM

[sigh]

what about biden? who cares about biden? who’s anything but pleased when democrats display weak minds and incompetence?

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Forget McCain for a minute. How can any fiscal conservative look at her policies in Alaska and endorse her? Someone explain that to me.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM

it’s not even worth it. they don’t even know what a conservative is. it’s like arguing with a parrot. it will always just sqwauk back at you without comprehending what you said. and these parrots have been taught to squawk “faith, family, borders!” by morons like sean hannity.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:54 PM

And the cowardly troll backpedals. Typical.

fossten on December 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Exactly eh. You’re describing the fundamentalist and/or dumbsh*t wings of the conservative movement. Palin is their dream candidate, and she’s absolutely unelectable in a national election.

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Guys like you will never get it fossten. eh just described you. “Ditto”, right?

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM

katy, let’s be honest. You somehow relate to Palin because you think she’s like you and understands your problems.
eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM

What I never said waaaaaaas… I think she is like me.

katy on December 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I did not read the story. But McCain is a hard line RINO, that he would not endorse Palin is a good thing for her and all freedom lovers.

allrsn on December 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM

It really is too early to start even thinking about the prez election cycle. At least in depth. But what we can think about are the 2010 elections.

As for McCain…i don’t know…I think when the chips are down, If his plan is to try and get back in with the media, He might want to be careful about stepping on Palin.

SOmething tells me that if she is SERIOUS about a run, and she see’s McCain as being a pain in the assy..she’ll eat him.
Lets remember that when McCain was TALKING about ‘fighting’…He didnt.

Palin went off on her own and did just that. FIGHT.
She is the only one that drew blood.

Handel on December 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Refunding oil company kickbacks to constituents, cutting taxes, and making good use of the line-item veto? Sounds good to me.

McCain voted for the bailout atrocity, so it’s his fiscal conservative credentials we should be concerned about. Earmarks… pshaw. Although I hate to agree with Obama, banning earmarks is mostly symbolic, and doesn’t save money in the figures that Congress deals with.

KingGold on December 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM

there is so much talk about a “Bush doctrine”. What the hell is that “Bush doctrine”? Their is no such thing. The dm word was first used in a ‘gotcha’ question to catch Palin off gaurd, then she could be blames for somthing no matter what she answered.

Somone who believes there is a “Bush doctrine” please prove it existed BEFORE Palin was asked what it was. You cannot do it. You cannot do it because their is no such thing.

allrsn on December 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM

eh on December 14, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Excellent.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:14 PM

fossten on December 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Have you been posting? I haven’t seen you in awhile, maybe I have bad timing.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 4:17 PM

1st Amendment hating La Raza Loving tool

sven10077 on December 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Well?

It’s true!

Saltysam on December 14, 2008 at 4:17 PM

I should have written in for Palin :-)

hockey2k5 on December 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM

And by the way…As per those critics of Palin (such as ‘dakine’)…

Its a little hard to hear comments about “Palin not having the qualifications to be president” from those that are probably sitting at their keyboards between “halo” games, with cheeto crumbs on their obama tshirts with one hand typing and the other scratching their rotund bellies.

I would say, who are they..the ‘dakines’ of the leftistside of the world..that make them feel as if they have any qualifications of their own– to make such idiotic statements.

Handel on December 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I should have written in for Palin :-)

hockey2k5 on December 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM

lol

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Refunding oil company kickbacks to constituents

Redistribution of wealth

cutting taxes,

She didn’t, she increased windfall profit taxes.

and making good use of the line-item veto?

While still increasing the size of the states government and spending. Yeah, that’s quite a conservative.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM

the election was over when he voted for the bailout

ConservativePartyNow on December 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Refunding oil company kickbacks to constituents

Redistribution of wealth

cutting taxes,

She didn’t, she increased windfall profit taxes.

and making good use of the line-item veto?

While still increasing the size of the states government and spending. Yeah, that’s quite a conservative.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM

-The State Constitution

-Took away corrupt tax breaks that the oil companies had in the “Crony capitalism” of previous administrations

-She has cut more from the state budget than the previous occupants of her office

-Her ethics legislation was signed into law

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:27 PM

It’s apparent from the droppings of the usual suspects on the Left, the Obama worshippers, that Governor Sarah Palin represents a real threat to their comfortably numb zone.

John McCain, I voted for you ONLY because Sarah Palin was on your ticket. She understands conservative principles; she really believes in country first; and she fought for your candidacy with honorable enthusiasm even when some of her priorities were at odds with yours.

Yes, Palin has executive experience. Even the Dem governor of PA, Ed Rendell, has pointed out Obama’s shortcomings in both excecutive capability AND experience.

I am truly at a loss in figuring out who supposedly the “intellectuals” of the Democrats are. I am drawing blanks. Pelosi? Dean? Reid? Biden? Franks? Dodd? Boxer? Byrd? Durbin? Schumer? Kerry? Gore? Waters? Rangel? ad nauseum… These people are not only intellectually bankrupt but morally and ethically so, just like Kennedy and Obama.

But back to John McCain: John, how about disappearing from the talking-head shows for a while. Hang out with your best buddies across the aisle instead. You can take the Maine girls and Specter with you for a double date. Maybe John Edwards will allow you to join him and Elizabeth at Wendy’s for an anniversary celebration.

If I ever hear the words “bipartisan” or “reaching across the aisle” again, it will be too soon. Either you have a sense of fiscal conservatism and an abhorrence of nanny-state social engineering, or you don’t. Either you understand that border security and immigration enforcement are important to the rule of law and the fabric of our society, or you don’t. Either you understand the Constitution and its limits on the federal government, or you don’t. Don’t compromise first principles, John.

onlineanalyst on December 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Santa has been very, very generous to the Democratic Party this year.

benny shakar on December 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM

also, she prevented the state legislature from going on a spending spree when oil prices were high, leaving enough in reserve to have a nice shot at balancing the budget even with the current low oil prices

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Why don’t you lay your definition of a “real” conservative out there so everyone knows what they have to live up to. All you do is tear down and criticize everyone but you say nothing constructive. … Please we need a definition, we are so tired of disappointing you.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM

that was completely non-responsive, and this isn’t going to satisfy you.

i don’t have such a definition. i suppose that at root it’s generally conservative to aknowlege that people are essentially beastial and atavistic, and that social constructs reform them into social beings. that it follows from this that rights are best concieved as negative premises and deined proscriptively. further, human agency is too vast and random to be known discretely, and ecapes theoretical prediction, and that only naturalistic tendencies can be known of it in only a general sense. therefor functional traditions are best preserved to the extent that they are preservable, while orthodoxy is just a nostalgic version of radicalism, similarly doomed to fail.

when i bag on “real” conservatives, it’s because such types are concerned with detatching theselves from first principles to advance a dogmatic litmus test of superficial issue positions. and then seek to burn the bridge leading back to the inquisitive, interrogative mindset from which some of those issue positions arose through purges. they thus unground themselves. they are thus doomed to repeated failures.

a litmus test and a decomposing intellectual legacy are just fine for “real” conservatives because they aren’t in fact conservatives in any real sense. two types, it seems to me, comprise the witch-burning purgers of the “real” conservativeset:

1) tweaked out NAU militia nut amero conspiracy theorizing racists obcessed with the border and who’s worldview is rooted in the “grand conspiracy” sub-culture. and

2) people for whom everything they ever needed to know about anything is written in the bible.

Oh, I am sorry, occasionally you encourage us all to adopt the things that democrats do.

nope.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Santa has been very, very generous to the Democratic Party this year.

benny shakar on December 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Santa comes the first of every month for you … Old St. Welfare

Hey … lets see those academic achievements and writings of Barry

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Exactly eh. You’re describing the fundamentalist and/or dumbsh*t wings of the conservative movement. Palin is their dream candidate, and she’s absolutely unelectable in a national election.

Don’t think you know the electorate. A guy who went to a racist, anti-semitic church for 20 years just won. Obama is much further to the left than Palin is to the right and after 8 years of statism, any Republican will have a good shot, including Palin.

The fact is, the election of Barack Obama has so lowered the standards as to what constitutes a “qualified leader,” I don’t see how any Democrat in the future can ever credibly criticize a Republican leader for associations or qualifications. They nominated the most inexperienced guy out of the entire field. A guy who launched his career in the house of a former terrorist. And they go after Palin for supposidly supporting Buchanan? Are you kidding?

V15J on December 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM

-Took away corrupt tax breaks that the oil companies had in the “Crony capitalism” of previous administrations

No she increased taxes an the producers via her ACES policy.

-She has cut more from the state budget than the previous occupants of her office

Facts? How can you claim she cut more when she increased state spending by what? Thirty percent in the last two years?

Good grief, we’re in the mess we’re in today because of bad fiscal policies and you people want to elevate Palin as some great fiscal conservative while ignoring her actual record.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:27 PM

The left doesn’t want ‘facts’. Thats inconvenient.

They want blissful ignorance, delusion…
In short…’hopenchange’.

Facts are for thinkers. “HOPENCHANGE” are for the lazy minded.
Also known as:
The left.

Handel on December 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM

The fact is, the election of Barack Obama has so lowered the standards as to what constitutes a “qualified leader,” I don’t see how any Democrat in the future can ever credibly criticize a Republican leader for associations or qualifications

+1

katy on December 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Handel, I’ll try to play nice. One can have a negative opinion regarding Gov. Palin and still be a real conservative. You get that, right?

joey, has “your Sarah” sent you that autographed pic yet? “You go girl!”, right?

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Palin isnt near qualified.

muyoso on December 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Bullshit. She’s over 35 and a “natural-born citizen”.

ddrintn on December 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM

+ 10000000000 FTW

hockey2k5 on December 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Good grief, we’re in the mess we’re in today because of bad fiscal policies and you people want to elevate Palin as some great fiscal conservative while ignoring her actual record.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM

We’re in this mess due by and large by idiotic dem policies of affirmative action houseing.
By idiotic dem policies in energy.

Or..don’t you read?

Handel on December 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Her policy concerning refund checks to the people of Alaska comes from the state Constitution … end of story

The Palin Fiscal Record:

July 1st, 2007 – Massive line item vetoes (lopping almost a quarter-billion dollars off of a $1.8 billion capital budget).

Dec. 11th, 2007 – Palin’s proposed budget slashes earmark requests, and dramatically slows growth of government.

March 23rd, 2008 – More vetoes in the “supplemental budget”. Palin also demands that legislators explain their pork projects to her personally before she signs off on any of them. This issue was particularly hilarious because the budget was for “emergency spending” and it included (among other things) the construction of batting cages and gun ranges.

May 24th, 2008 – Second consecutive year of huge line-item vetoes in the state’s capital budget (over a quarter-billion dollars this time, 10% of the total capital budget):

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:37 PM

dakine on December 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Have you received your “paycheck” from Obama for “services” during the campaign?

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Sen.Mccain gov. Palin stood by you all throught the campain.Ever time you mess up or said something crazy she took up for you.This is how you treat her now.You sir are a disgrace.Maybe Sen. you can pull a powell and endorse Obama.After all you have already started kissing his back side.

thmcbb on December 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM

All the trolls have arrived … all we need is Poptech posting Mitt Romney’s resume and we will have the all-star team in our presence

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

The Yankees got CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett.

Phil Hughes reminds me of Governor Palin

An Era of Hate on December 14, 2008 at 4:42 PM

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Did she or did she not increase state spending by more the thirty percent in the past two years? This is the same garbage peddled by the federal government every year. Increase proposed spending by 10%, compromise on a 7.5% increase and claim you cut spending. It’s horseshit there just as it is in Alaska.

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Have you received your “paycheck” from Obama for “services” during the campaign?

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM

they’re squawking at you dakine. i don’t suppose it’s lost on you either that theirs’ is the coalitional orthodxy-enforcement strategy of the comintern.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM

…you know, in the way that trotsky became a “fascist”.

eh on December 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM

joey24007 on December 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

You come to a right blog site as an apologist for poor fiscal policy and we’re the trolls? How does that work?

lowandslow on December 14, 2008 at 4:46 PM

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