The PQ was around prior to the October Crisis.

Worse, he turned Albertans, once the most patriotic of Canadians, into secessionists with his NEP.

Trudeau was the worst thing ever to happen to Canada.

I ’spose I’ll need a refresher on what terrorism is. Terrorism is a tactic, and they used that tactic, hence they were terrorists. You may not think their agenda was legit, but they had their fans. That whole movement is not well understood.

PET broke their back.

I have no love for the NEP, my folks lost a business because of the NEP.

It seems I’m stuck in the past.

The FLQ were never terrorists. They were, in reality, a group of criminals who used a largely fictitious political agenda to legitimize their activities. They wanted to get themselves, their buddies and their families out of jail and out of the country, some cash, and to get the cops off their case. The demands for publication of their manifesto and to rehire those postal employees served to generate sympathy.

1. the release of 23 “political prisoners”.
2. some FLQ members who were out on bail at the time of the kidnappings, would be allowed to leave Quebec if they wanted.
3. all family members of the “political prisoners” and those out on bail would be able to join them outside of Quebec.
4. $500,000 in gold
5. the broadcast and publication of the FLQ Manifesto
6. the publication of the name of a police informant
7. an aircraft to take the kidnappers to Cuba or Algeria and while doing so they would be accompanied by their lawyers.
8. the rehiring of about 450 Lapalme postal workers who had been laid off because of their support of the FLQ
9. the cessation of all police search activities

The FLQ also stipulated how the above demands would be carried out:

1. the prisoners were to be taken to the Montreal airport and supplied a copy of the FLQ Manifesto. They were to be allowed to communicate with each other and become familiar with the Manifesto.
2. they were not to be dealt with in a harsh or brutal manner.
3. they must be able to communicate with their lawyers to discuss the best course of action, whether to leave Quebec or not. As well, these lawyers must receive passage back to Quebec.

Trudeau and his cabinet grossly overreacted to the “crisis”. All that they should have done was to send a few extra cops. Instead, they suspended human rights and invaded Quebec. Why would they take such extreme action? It wasn’t to go after the FLQ. It was, rather, to guard the rich English sections of Quebec from whose investments at stake, to reassure Ontario’s investors of the same, and to intimidate the average Quebecer into knowing who was in charge: the rich people.

Trudeau ought to be ranked with Augusto Pinochet as one of the Americas’ greatest human rights violators. If only he had been stopped in 1970, because he committed an even more serious violation in 1980 – a decade later almost to the day – with the imposition of the National Energy Program. October 28, 1980 ought to be a statutory holiday in Alberta in remembrance of those terrible years.

Some Wiki for ya

Paul Rose

Jacques Rose

Francis Simard

Bernard Lortie

Try again with your 12 months thing.

I have no idea why the Hard Right up here forces me to defend asshats like PET, and I wouldn’t if you folks would stick to the facts.

Well, the FLQ were most assuredly terrorists. The issue was that Trudeau used the War Measures Act to jail and accost people who opposed him and not just round up the FLQ.

And no, the FLQ wasn’t conveniently let go after killing a British diplomat which brought about the October Crisis in the first place.

When Parliament reconvenes, the three parties will almost certainly put aside any more thoughts of no-confidence votes.

Every financial bill is a confidence vote. They are between a rock and a hard place. I expect that we go to the polls when Iggy is made official leader.

The US did not invade Canada in 1813-14, rather they sent troops to conquer British colonies. A combination of poor leadership and stubborn British resistance thwarted those efforts, resulting in a stalemate, not defeat or victory. The combined British defeats at Lake Champlain and New Orleans saved Canada from future attempts.

None of this matters, however, for since 1815 relations have been deep, complex and healthy for both. It will stay that way inspite of Canadian attempts to mess with it. These people are so insane that some wanted to retaliate against the US by cutting off energy exports. What they don’t realize is that the US can take it longer than they can dish it out. Ever see that South Park episode where Canada goes on strike and they end up starving within a week? That’s how it would be, except Alberta – which exports energy to the US – would be the 51st State by then.

Point is: don’t listen to Canadians brag, they’re full of it.

Canadians feel about Americans the same way as Democrats feel about Republicans. Blind seething irrational hatred.

Basilsbest on December 13, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Its not the same thing. Canadians are perfectly justified in their dislike/hatred of America. The U.S. invaded Canada in an attempt to annex its territories and destroy Canada as a sovereign nation. The U.S. was not successful. Tough luck but its hardly the end of the world.

The coalition is not a coup and it has nothing to do with why any party can’t get the majority by themselves in an election. The reasons for that have been set a long time ago and the recent events won’t change it.

The guy on the left, literally and politically, looks like Lenin.

Entelechy on December 13, 2008 at 3:30 PM

LOL, just saw yours!

So – Perhaps Lenin would have gotten more folks on board, if only he’d had a sales pitch as good as the Video Professor:

“Were positive that, once you’ve tried Marxism-Leninism, you’ll come back to us for all your social dependency needs! So, what have you got to lose? The literature’s free, the propaganda posters are free, the gulags are free, and – if you’re not satisfied – we’ll even refund your shipping and handling charge. So what are you waiting for? TRY MY PRODUCT!”

Just sayin’, ’s all.

a capella on December 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Supposedly Americans dislike Congress, except their own representatives. Which of course is very funny. I do indeed like my Congressman, except for a bad rug (how bad could he possibly look bald). But I can’t stand either of my Senators so I feel a little bit better about not being totally blind. I especially love it when they reply to my emails and tell me I am wrong. Lucky for me, no pet projects.

The second one really steamed me.

this essay

and

The Lesser Evil

Canadians feel about Americans the same way as Democrats feel about Republicans. Blind seething irrational hatred.

US Air Force report states 31 personnel and 3 aircraft supported Coalition military operations in 2003, during the war.

Most importantly, Canadian industry supported the US war machine with weapons, vehicles and equipment. There’s no escaping but Chretien’s alleged “principled” stand opposing Iraq was a lie.