Emanuel, Blago had “conversations” on Senate succession
posted at 11:23 am on December 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The categorical denials coming from Barack Obama on the Rod Blagojevich pay-to-play scandal took another hit today from the Chicago Tribune. Two sources confirm that Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s new chief of staff, had a number of conversations with Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris to discuss acceptable candidates to fill the rest of Obama’s Senate term. These conversations got captured by federal wiretaps and will likely be reviewed by a grand jury looking to indict people on corruption charges:
Rahm Emanuel, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick to be White House chief of staff, had conversations with Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s administration about who would replace Obama in the U.S. Senate, the Tribune has learned.
The revelation does not suggest Obama’s new gatekeeper was involved in any talk of dealmaking involving the seat. But it does help fill in the gaps surrounding a question that Obama was unable or unwilling to answer this week: Did anyone on his staff have contact with Blagojevich about his choice for the Senate seat? …
One source confirmed that communications between Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps.
Another source said that contact between the Obama camp and the governor’s administration regarding the Senate seat began the Saturday before the Nov. 4 election, when Emanuel made a call to the cell phone of Harris. The conversation took place around the same time press reports surfaced about Emanuel being approached about taking the high-level White House post should Obama win.
Emanuel delivered a list of candidates who would be “acceptable” to Obama, the source said. On the list were Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hynes and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Chicago, the source said. All are Democrats.
Sometime after the election, Emanuel called Harris back to add the name of Democratic Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to the approved list, the source said.
As I wrote this week, no one would be surprised to hear that Emanuel and Obama had enough interest in the latter’s replacement to get in contact with the man who would normally make that appointment, Governor Blagojevich. After all, the composition of the Senate matters a great deal to Obama, who needs to ensure that his agenda gets the most support possible in the next two years. Given the corruption in Illinois politics, it might make it even more important to get involved in the process early to avoid getting someone who would embarrass the administration at a later point in time, especially with Patrick Fitzgerald’s years-long probe into Illinois politics still ongoing.
However, Barack Obama and his team chose not to give that honest and common-sense explanation. Instead, they issued categorical denials that Obama and his staff had contacted Blagojevich or his staff about the succession. It’s a mystifying claim, and one that will apparently get proven false fairly easily. Now, instead of just saying that contact existed but that no one had tried making deals, they have thrown away their credibility on a very foolish point — which will lead to the conclusion that Team Obama has something very significant to hide.
Now it comes down to the Watergate question for both Emanuel and Obama: What did they know, and when did they know it? Did Emanuel’s conversations with Harris or anyone else involve discussions of quid pro quo? Team Obama will deny it, but they spent all of this week denying any conversations took place, and only the most gullible will believe denials from this point forward. The wiretaps will go to the grand jury, and we will see whether Emanuel got himself caught in Fitzgerald’s nets.
If he did discuss quid pro quo and didn’t report it to the feds, Emanuel may or may not have committed a crime, but Obama will have no choice but to fire him. And axing a Chief of Staff before even taking the oath of office does not lend much confidence in either the competence nor the honesty of the new President.
Update: Here’s what Obama said in his December 11th statement:
I had no contact with the governor’s office. I did not speak to the governor about these issues, that I know for certain. What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office, and we’ll have those in the next few days and we’ll present them. But what I’m absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That, I’m absolutely certain of, and that would be a violation of everything this campaign has been about. That’s not how we do business.
So Obama said in one part that he himself hat no contact with the governor’s office or the governor regarding the appointment, which makes sense, because he’s got other issues to handle. He then claims that his office “had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat.” If that’s true, then what was Emanuel discussing with Harris — and how did Blagojevich know that they wouldn’t give him anything but their appreciation? From the complaint, it doesn’t sound like an assumption Blagojevich made. (Hat tip: HA reader David M)
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I did not have verbal relations with that governor!
Babino on December 13, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Don’t Blago me, bro!
D2Boston on December 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM
A famous joke comes to mind:
“We’ve already established what you are (sir). Now we’re just haggling over the price”
econavenger on December 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Clintonian. Absolutely Clintonian.
whitetop on December 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Change you can subpoena.
whitetop on December 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM
BHO’s GovernorGate moment is upon us. God help us.
Sweetness0726 on December 13, 2008 at 11:37 AM
My addition.
Regards,
Sweetness0726 on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Uh..To lend confidence in competency or honesty would mean there would have to be some capital there in the first place.
katy on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Hey 52%! Are you still proud of yourselves? You have elected a cipher who will rely on the polls and prevailing winds worse that Bill Clinton did. He will say anything that he has to in order to maintain power. It’s the Chicago way. Gang, please pray for our country. And pass the popcorn.
kingsjester on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
1. Oh, come, Oh, come, Emmanuel,
And ransom the junior senator from Illinois’ seat,
Because while Blago enjoys appreciation
Even Obamamessiah’s thanks wont buy any meat.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel.
2. Oh, come, the adopted son of Chicago, free
Thine own from Bush’s tyranny;
Because while Barack will let Iran get the bomb;
He promises to bomb them back when Israel is gone;
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel.
Mr. Joe on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
So as I see it, Obama is either dirty or naive. I see no other possible alternatives.
Personally I would have a lot more faith in him if he were dirty. A naive president scares the willies out of me.
The most generous defense is that he is a horrible judge of character!
redshirt on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Should read: I did not have
verbalORAL relations with that governor!poxoma on December 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM
He just mispoke about the distraction,so can we plese move on to the real issues
budaside on December 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
The categorical denials coming from Barack Obama on the Rod Blagojevich pay-to-play scandal took another hit today from the Chicago Tribune.
Exactly which denials took a hit? The only ones I know are
1) That Obama himself spoke to Blagojevich about the senate seat. (when ask directly about Emmanuel, he would not comment sighting the investigation and promised more info on his staff’s dealing with Blago in the next few days).
2) That any of Obama’s staff took part in any deal making.
This report does not refute or counter either of those claims.
Instead, they issued categorical denials that Obama and his staff had contacted Blagojevich or his staff about the succession.
I don’t think this is true, Ed. He denied he was personally involved and denied that his staff was involved in any deal making, but he didn’t deny that his staff had contact with Blagojevich about the senate seat.
I may be wrong, but I don’t think so. If so, point it out. If not, you may want to follow KHQA’s example and correct the record.
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Note to Plugsy:
It wouldn’t hurt to at least be thinking about a drapery pattern you’d like in the Oval. You know…JIC.
whitetop on December 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Trying, perhaps, to build a firewall around Obama. I find it hard to believe that Emanuel didn’t discuss the position with Obama and what Blago was “thinking”. He was, at least, the intermediary.
As the old saying goes, the coverup is more…et cetera.
My guess is, at worst, Obama would look “bad” in this. Discussing horse trading – legally – with Blago in return to his naming Obama’s choice. Goes on all the time but it won’t look good for Mr. Perfect.
Or it could be that Emanuel was the one who tipped off the FBI after Blago was really pushing things.
Much ado about probably nothing. But still fun (so to speak).
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 11:42 AM
The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.
fogw on December 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
It would be awesome if Rahm was connected to the “Change To Win” part… talk about “Seat at the table”…
ninjapirate on December 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Am I the only one who’s sick of hearing “this doesn’t mean Obama was involved in anything criminal”? No one is implying he was! Why is it we have to hear this a dozen times in every article or 5 minute segment on cable news? Have we ever seen this sort of behavior when any other politician has sketchy ties? The media is spending as much time making sure it doesn’t sound like they’re implicating Obama as they are covering the real story.
RightWinged on December 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM
No surprise at all. Our new Ruler is another liar.
sheebe on December 13, 2008 at 11:49 AM
RightWinged on December 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM
In terms of this thread, Ed is falsely claiming that Obama denied that his staff had any contact with Blagojevich over the Senate seat.
That’s just not true. It’s a false claim. Unfortunately for Ed, making false claims is the only way to try and make this story look bad for Obama.
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And the geek hasn’t even taken office yet.
Obarfy believes, he really believes, that a nice suit and vacuous slogans will see him through such controversy.
This does not bode well for dealing with the world’s thugs and dictators.
Bishop on December 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
This maybe the first of a President “elect” scandal! I wonder if the bus needs to be “greased” again!
grapeknutz on December 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM
As the old saying goes, the coverup is more…et cetera.
You left out the key word: crime. What’s the crime that Obama has been accused of?
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Mindset is all!
Rahm Emanuel and his boss are so blatantly emblematic of so many of their predecessors that they should be bringing down gales of laughter on themselves when they sanctimoniously proclaim their allegiance to “Change”. This is Clinton and Nixon and Johnson and an almost endless parade of “Leaders” who have no faith or respect for the people they pretend to lead. They simply can’t imagine that we can see the distinction between the natural concern for who succeeds to the Senate seat, and the horrendously corrupt process that Blagoyavich made of it.
Going down the road, if this mindset prevails, it’s going to inevitably drive an entire regime of cynical manipulation and paranoid distrust of anything outside the beltway culture elite. If you add the raging messianic megalomania of the “Cult of Obama” to this stew, the torch-lighted rallies of Nuremburg aren’t that far under the surface.
This is not beginning well!
Lew on December 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
As Jackson Browne would say:
“Running on, running on empty
running on, running blind
running on, running into the sun
But I’m running behind”
Bishop on December 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM
That’s how propaganda works. Over and over until it becomes part of the narative.
katy on December 13, 2008 at 11:57 AM
You left out the key word: crime. What’s the crime that Obama has been accused of?
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM
No crime yet, operative word being “yet”, but we are still early in this controversy and its related investigations.
Regardless, in politics perception is everything, and the perception of your boy is starting to belie the hopey changey bullshiite he’s been peddlin’.
Bishop on December 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Is it possible to throw an entire city under a bus?
wccawa on December 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Because he’s a Democrat. They get the presumption of innocence.
Wethal on December 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM
It is obvious Obama was using a series of cut outs to insulate himself,..hence the comment about ‘leaving fewer fingerprints.”
It is entirely possible that Rahm didn’t make any illegal offers. John Kass has an idea who may have done so.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-12-dec12,0,723256.column
a capella on December 13, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Warm up that bus Barry.
omnipotent on December 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Thats how propaganda works. Over and over until it becomes part of the narrative.~~Katy on December 13, 2008 at 11:57AM
Katy, darling, how do you think Obama was elected?
volsense on December 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Yes indeed, the sycophantic prophecy has come true; the MSM wanted to be a part of “history”, and the first page of the One’s legacy is already taking shape.
singlemalt_18 on December 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM
I’m not surprised that Obama flubbed an answer to a tough and direct question. He’s had so little experience at it.
PackerBronco on December 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM
I’m imagining a scene in the OOTPE much like a scene in the movie “Independence Day”, where the President says “Mr. Levinson, you’re mistaken. There is no Area 51. There is no spaceship”, and then the SECDEF says ” Uh… Mr. President. That’s not entirely accurate.”
Only in the OOTPE, it would be Rahm that says “Thats not entirely accurate” after The One denies any contact between his office and Gov. Blago.
BobMbx on December 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM
When the “fingerprints” story came out with that quote buried, Drudge caught it…but should have bold headlined FINGERPRINTS to wake up the Obama true believers earlier on this. It’s pretty clear they negotiated and just couldn’t afford politically to have Obama’s fingerprints on it or to pay a specific asking price in a hard cash transaction. They needed plausible deniability.
This will be the best quote for the Obama Crime Administration when the dust settles:
“Guilty as hell, free as a bird. America is a great country.”
econavenger on December 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Hey TS, would you at least concede that Obama lied his ass off at the initial press conference over this issue? Rahm had conversations with Blogo about the Senate seat and Obama didn’t know about it? Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt.
PackerBronco on December 13, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Emanuel is a tool seasoned by the most politcally corrupt machine in the country. Is he homest? Of course not. It’s insanity to suggest otherwise. That is why he is Chief of Staff. He is a intellectually dishonest puppet and will be the just another whipping boy by the puppetmaster.
volsense on December 13, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Nowhere did I accuse Obama of any crime. Or anyone else.
The question was the invovlement and knowledge (if any) of Emanuel’s in these shady and probably illegal offers and whether he told Obama of the backroom shenanigans.
Stop smoking the parnoia pipe and get used to the new environment. You guy are running things (or will be shortly) and will have to take the extra examination and scrutiny that comes with it.
After eight years of accusing Bush of everything from being the shooter on the grassy knoll to causing the San Francisco earthquake, you guys will have to suffer the consequences of having created this enviroment.
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Yup. Exactly
katy on December 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Presumption? Hardly. You obviously didn’t get the memo that said Liberals are without guilt and incapable of sin.
BobMbx on December 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Comment of the Day™
steveegg on December 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Even if Barry escapes unscathed, getting that rat Rahm out of the WH is a huge step up im my opinion.
VolMagic on December 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Tom Shipley,
Obama categorically denied that he had any conversations with the Governor about his Senate replacement. And there are news reports that he met him post election
http://www.worldnetdaily
.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83240
Let’s hypothetically and naively assume that Obama personally had no contact with Blago about his replacement. So what? His staff was involved ! Does that count for anything ? Do we have rogue staff members doing things behind the President Elect’s back ?
And why is it that Obama has not be forthcoming about the fact that his chief of staff has been talking to Blago ??
Even better, why was Valerie Jarret’s name so suddenly yanked out of contention ? You should see Lindgren’s timeline at the Volokh conspiracy.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened. Obama refused to play with Blago and tried to minimize the damage of dealing with him by immediately appointing Jarret as his adviser rather than have her as a Senator.
But it is also clear that he REFUSED to report the matter to the Feds. He knew that his Senate seat was up for sale and looked the other way. It is pretty consistent with the way he has dealt with the Chicago machine. “Look the Other way or use them as necessary” – no wonder he first went to Rezko to help him seal the deal for his new house.
It may not be illegal to not report a crime that is about to take place to the Federal authorities when it comes to corruption. But i sure hope that this is not the case with terrorism .i.e. if you know that a terror strike is about to take place and you are under no duress and if you still dont report it, you need to be held accountable.
So much for change. Plus ca change’, plus c’est la meme chose !
nagee76 on December 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Rahm had conversations with Blogo about the Senate seat and Obama didn’t know about it? Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt.
This is the one thing I’m skeptical of. Now, it’s important to note that Obama didn’t claim that he didn’t speak with Rahm about the senate seat, but that he didn’t know about “what was going on” which is a reference to Blagojevich’s shakedown.
Yes, I would find it hard to believe that if Blago wanted to something in return for the seat, the Rahm wouldn’t have mentioned it to Obama.
But what we do seem to know if that Team Obama didn’t bite on any offer.
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Not really. Clinton didn’t have any real capital in the competency/honesty department.
steveegg on December 13, 2008 at 12:13 PM
And by “you guys” I don’t necessarily mean you specifically.
Liberals are inheriting an environment that they partially helped to create. Every sentence, every word by the President or his minions is gone over for any hint of dishonesty or disingenuousness.
That’s your rules. Now you have to play under them.
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 12:13 PM
“The power of the freedom of the press is a flaming sword. That it may be a servant of all the people, use it justly—hold it high—and guard it well.”
Thanks, Trib.
But God I miss Mike Royko…
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Payback IS a bitch………….I can’t wait to hammer this phony turd.
omnipotent on December 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM
The $64,000 (or the $1 million that Jesse Jackson Jr. appears to have offered) question is, was that because they weren’t interested in buying, or because the price was too high. There’s all sorts of problems if it’s the latter, and given Chicago politics, I’d bet on the latter.
steveegg on December 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Payback IS a b^tch…….I can’t wait to hammer this TURD.
omnipotent on December 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM
The $64,000 (or the $1 million that Jesse Jackson Jr. appears to have offered) question is, was that because they weren’t interested in buying, or because the price was too high.
Considering that Blagojevich is recorded bitching that the only thing Obama’s team is willing to give them in return for the seat is appreciation, it doesn’t seem to the latter.
Or, if it was that the price was too high, it’s because any price would have been too high.
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM
How many times does anyone need to be reminded of 0bama’s upbringing in the Combine? John Kass of the Trib put it succinctly, thus:
“Obama is a creature of Chicago Politics. The machine runs Chicago… There seems to be a willful attempt by some outside Chicago to sort of not consider that Obama is a Chicago political guy.”
Quod erat demonstrandum.
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM
One thing is for certain, Obama and his crew are incapable of telling the thruth about anything.
Hog Wild on December 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Yes I know. That’s my point. Comparing apples and apples. The left is so morally deficient they don’t see it.
katy on December 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM
The $64,000 (or the $1 million that Jesse Jackson Jr. appears to have offered) question is, was that because they weren’t interested in buying, or because the price was too high.
Considering Blagojevich is caught on tape bitching that Obama’s team would only give him “appreciation” in return for the seat, if it’s because the price was too hight, it was because ANY price was too high.
Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM
One question for Emanuel is whether he had learned of these demands by Blago and failed to inform the FBI.
That’s not a crime but it sure looks bad for him.
And if he had informed Obama that Blago was making these outrageous demands and they both failed to inform the Feds, that too doesn’t look too good.
No crimes. But ethical lapses or averted glances.
The types of lapses that advance you in Illinois/Chicago politics.
Hmm, who has a history of doing that? Let me think….
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Like I said the other day concerning Obama or Emmanuel, you don’t swim in the sewer and not pick up the stink!
katy on December 13, 2008 at 12:24 PM
The most important message so far from all this is that with Obama it is Washington/Chicago politics as usual (or maybe worse than usual).
Contrary to his pontifications, with Obama there is no fresh wind, new wind or new (positive) way in doing things in Washington.
While it is no new revelation to those that did not vote for Obama, for the “Obamaniacs” this episode is the building of another cornerstone in the case that perhaps Obama really is a fraud, a phoney and an empty suit with no experience.
(However, I would venture that since the election all “Obmanaiacs” have put on the rose-tinted glasses and cut themselves off from any negative-type news about Obama; they just don’t want to believe or know the truth.)
albill on December 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Please pardon the double post (blushes)
It didn’t originally show up and I thought it was ‘censored’ due to ‘profanity’.
omnipotent on December 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Obama is hopelessly naive, a babe in the woods. He didn’t know a single thing about Bill Ayers when he started his political career in the man’s living room, either.
He’s like a black Sgt. Schultz.
capitalist piglet on December 13, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Not if we all decide (unlike John McCain) to hang the lifetime association around Obama’s political neck.
People like Rush could decide to start calling him “ChicagObama” or “Barry Chicago” now. Something clever can be used as teflon-remover.
econavenger on December 13, 2008 at 12:26 PM
“He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician
fogw on December 13, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Obama didn’t know about “what was going on” with his own chief of staff? He doesn’t run a very tight ship, then. Doesn’t inspire much confidence. It’s almost like he has no executive experience or something.
shazbat on December 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM
So funny!
Firebird on December 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Itchy trigger finger, sorry.
“He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician” … Rev. Wright, April 2008
fogw on December 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I can only assume you intend that sarcastically. No grade schoolers in Chi assume that, I can promise you.
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM
American Taxpayers have the right to hear all the tapes.
Play the Tapes.
Firebird on December 13, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Fortunately, our press did all of the hard work investigating Obama’s involvement/relationship with the dynamics of Chicago’s politics.
Just like they did with Palin.
Now, if only we can find where they published all that material.
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 12:32 PM
New Poll up- What do you think about Colin Powell endorsing Barack Obama Democrat. My husband who spent 27 years in the U.S. Army, thinks Secretary of State Colin Powell Republican? is a phony. My husband identifies Independent as I do. I don’t know Joe Lieberman Democrat and he endorsed John McCain Republican…that didn’t help Joe with the Democrat Party…did Colin Powell help himself politically with either party? Is that what the endorsement was all about? Positioning himself on the winning side? American Politics is not for the Timid.
http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2008/12/audacity-of-colin-powell.html
Dr Evil on December 13, 2008 at 12:32 PM
I don’t think the, Obama simply having “bad judgement or not knowing” thing is ever going to work with this guy. Every person he has ever worked with, mentored with, prayed or played with has been a smuck and he gets a pass. This guy is going to have to go down really hard if he goes down at all.
katy on December 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM
It was saracasm, but it’s the line liberals will believe, or at least try to sell on his behalf. No matter what happens around him, no matter where his own fingerprints appear, he will be innocent. Of any and all charges.
capitalist piglet on December 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM
It’s in Hillary Clinton’s Rose Law Firm Files right where the maid left it.
Rovin on December 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM
capitalist piglet on December 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM
LOL – sarcasm, not saracasm. : )
capitalist piglet on December 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Right here. And in a timely fashion, too.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/806659.html
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Aren’t Emanuel and Obama both licensed attorneys in Illinois? If so and they had knowledge of criminal activity being engaged in by the governor, wouldn’t they at least have an ethical obligation as officers of the court to report it?
AZCoyote on December 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM
OH, yeah.
Once again I encourage all here to register and post on SFGate.com, the website of the San Francisco Chronicle.
If any of you want to stop preaching to the choir and bickering over the Vicar’s new wife, here’s a place you can afllict the comfortable. Fun for all, and there are a surprising number of clear thinkers already engaged. Wanna meet a moonbat?
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM
You got that right. I mean, doesn’t this at least look as bad as tanning beds, per diems and free flowers and salmon? And firing an official one has every right to fire?
ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Are we witnessing the coining of a verb for the necessary resignation of an Obama administration official for the purpose of stanching any bleeding so that it doesn’t reach Obama? Namely, to raum; conjugated raum/raumed/has raumed/is rauming.
Criminal or not–and I suspect not–I still think Raum will have to go. The other thing that smells about all this is the hasty unexplained withdrawal of Valerie Jarrett from consideration. That suggests to me that Obama, his people, or both knew that they were getting into smelly territory and moved to get Obama’s Chicagoland godmother out of the storm as quickly as possible before trying to play ball as far as other candidates are concerned.
To be sure, the country has bigger problems than Obama’s corruption scandals, but this is what we get for electing this low life. Thanks, 52%.
BuckeyeSam on December 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Perhaps they could do the disbarrment thing at his swearing in ceremony?
a capella on December 13, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I just wonder where all the “no one is suggesting that Palin committed anything remotely criminal” disclaimers were during the campaign?
ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Emanuel has no legal background, I don’t think.
Whether Obama’s law license in Illinois is still valid, I doubt that too.
At worst (unless something new comes up), this is sort of ethical (not legal) nonfeasance on their part. Not mal- or misfeasance.
SteveMG on December 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Hah! And as I said in another thread, about all we can do for the next four years or so is stand by the plants in our German uniforms and comment Arte Johnson-style, “Vedddddy inteddddesting.”
PEBO is already making a joke of the presidency–and he hasn’t even been inaugurated.
BuckeyeSam on December 13, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Stop picking on Obama. It’s not as if he’s done anything really evil, like liberating 50 million people.
Basilsbest on December 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Are we witnessing the coining of a verb for the necessary resignation of an Obama administration official for the purpose of stanching any bleeding so that it doesn’t reach Obama? Namely, to raum; conjugated raum/raumed/has raumed/is rauming. – BuckeyeSam on December 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM
warbaby on December 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Not only will this mess cripple his legitimacy as President at home but it will surely do the same abroad. When you vote in a man to the lead the free world who’s only associations are terrorists (Bill Ayers & Bernadine Dorhn ), anti-American preachers (Jeremiah Wright &Fr. Phleger), hamas leaders (Rashid Khalidi) communist party USA leaders (Frank Davis Marshall), and convicted Chicago criminals (Tony Rezko) what do you expect??
Nice going – 52% of America!!
katy on December 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Strange, but this fact has not been talked about by the media much yet and maybe why the silence from Obama on it.
Case Confirms Rezko Is Talking With Prosecutors
So Blagojevich’s wife is the one who did the land deals with Rezko and Obama. Rezko is still talking and if Blajojevich does I wonder how many it would take down in that state.
JeffinSac on December 13, 2008 at 1:32 PM
To us, indeed so. But I guarantee that Obama supporters will not see it that way. They will see it as BO’s opponents fighting dirty to bring the administration down before it even gets started.
It is kind of like at the school where I teach. Each week the teacher in charge of On Campus Suspension is required to put out a rundown of who was suspended by race, gender, and grade–mostly 9th graders, mostly boys, and mostly black. We get no end of grief for these stats, as if we’re somehow targeting the 9th grade black boys. The question is never asked WHY those kids are more likely to exhibit behaviors that get them suspended more often than the other groups. The blame is always placed on us for wanting those troublemakers out of our class so we can for crying out loud just teach for a period and not have to wrangle one or two kids just to get them to sit down and hush.
The same thing will happen here if RE must resign. It won’t be the fault of the Blago administration, or of RH, or of BO or his administration. It’ll be the fault of the right, for unnecessarily raking muck.
Mark my words.
Bob's Kid on December 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM
federal law on misprison of felony.
Wethal on December 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM
If Blago and Rahm were in talks about acceptable successors, and if Blago was requiring pay-to-play from folks on his short list, why would he treat Rahm any differently? Why would he not quiz Rahm about payoffs too?
Already we know Blago complained on tape that Obama was unwilling to pay, except in ‘gratitude’. How would he know this, if he hadn’t asked? Who was more in the position to give him this answer than Rahm?
The way I see it, the defensiveness from Rahm/Obama is because Rahm or Team Obama knew Blago was pursuing pay-to-play, but decided not to blow the whistle on it.
petefrt on December 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Bingo.
petefrt on December 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Whether they have something significant to hide on this or not, the fact that there was such a denial reveals a great deal about integrity and habit. An honest man would say something like we have to wait and find out what happened. Someone who is used to presenting a facade and being able to cover his tracks and get away with it goes into immediate denial of wrongdoing.
I have never had “confidence in either the competence nor the honesty” of Obama. (Well, he’s competent in grabbing power and as Hillary said, in giving speeches).
And as katy said above and as others have said many times, his colleagues and mentors are either terrorists, crooks, Communists, racists or hate America. I don’t buy the accusation that that’s only “guilt by association”. These are the people he’s spent time with and done deals with for years.
INC on December 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Nixon and Frost (yawn)
How about Obama and Ingraham?
whitetop on December 13, 2008 at 1:44 PM
one thing we no for SURE. the sainted Obama could not possibly under any circumstances be involved in anything illegal. We have been told that thousands of times now by the all-knowing press.
Therefore, it seems clear that selling a Senate seat is not illegal.
notagool on December 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM
It seems that Herr obama is no longer a practicing attorney. If you go to the illinois site, his entry is listed as being inactive.. Funny thing that a lawyer would voluntarily give up their ability to practice… or was it voluntary..
bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 1:51 PM
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