Contact: Emanuel spoke with Blago “on multiple occasions” about Senate seat

posted at 7:57 am on December 12, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

The attempt by President-elect Barack Obama to distance himself from the scandal erupting in Illinois took a big hit last night with this exclusive report from Chicago’s Fox affiliate. Sources within the investigation say that Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s chief of staff, spoke with Governor Rod Blagojevich on “multiple occasions” about the Senate succession that Blagojevich had wanted to sell to the highest bidder — and that Emanuel will likely be on the FBI wiretaps:

On the surface, this makes sense. The notion that Obama and his team had nothing to say about the Senate appointment and had no contact whatsoever with Blagojevich was ridiculous. Emanuel, with his ties to Illinois politics and his status as Obama’s right-hand man, would make the most likely candidate to handle those negotiations.

That doesn’t necessarily mean that Emanuel knew about Blagojevich’s efforts to extort payment for the selection, but it puts a damper on the idea that Emanuel tipped off the feds, too.  It wouldn’t take “multiple” meetings for Emanuel to decide to squeal.  If Emanuel continued meeting with Blagojevich, that indicates some kind of negotiating was happening, and that would strongly suggest that Emanuel was working on Blagojevich’s terms.

It’s still possible that Emanuel was working with the feds, but why stay silent about it now?  They’ve already arrested Blagojevich.  Emanuel could now say, “I helped Patrick Fitzgerald when I saw something wrong and worked with them to get him to make explicit statements,” rather than spend this week ducking reporters.  The “sources within the investigation” would hardly want to make a cooperating witness look bad, either. Emanuel has been acting like someone advised him to keep quiet to keep from making incriminating public statements, and this may be the reason why.


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ither Obama is Chauncey Gardener or he knew exactly what was happening and didn’t care unless it adversely affected his career aspirations.

Illinidiva on December 12, 2008 at 8:57 AM

I was thinking exactly the same thing, and in that spirit, “I like to watch”

Pass the popcorn, please.

turfmann on December 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM

If anyone has the patience to look to see if Obama violated any rules (should it turn out that Emanuel was acting in his official capacity as Obama’s chief of staff* when he engaged in multiple discussions with Blago about the Senate seat) by his failure to report Blago’s attempt to extract political favors for appointing Obama’s choice, here’s the Senate Ethics Manual.

I’d say he violated the Employment Considerations for Senate Spouses (pg. 93) when he pushed for the earmarks for the U of C, but what I don’t have the patience to do is to see if Senators are required to report attempted bribes or gratuities.

*I agree with the folks who think it is a stretch to think that Obama did not know his chief of staff was in discussions with Blago about the Senate seat.

Y-not on December 12, 2008 at 11:16 AM

Sorry, my B.S. meter just went off, Tom.

Well, you’ve got a shitty BS meter. And, so you don’t make the mistake again:

To infer is to glean information from material.

To imply is to suggest something.

And this is insinuation:

The Tribune had a particular animus for Blagojevich after this ham-handed attempt to bully their editorial board. They wanted him gone, and they wouldn’t have minded losing a scoop or two to the competition to get it. The Tribune had bigger fish to fry: millions of dollars in taxpayer funding for Wrigley Field renovations, which are now all but guaranteed after Blagojevich’s extortion attempts got exposed by Fitzgerald.

So yes, one cheer for the Tribune’s exercise of editorial responsibility. Too bad that taxpayers will pay for it.

The insinuation: The Trib screwed over Illinois taxpayers by not publishing the Blagojevich story. It’s important to note, he presents ZERO evidence that the Tribune editorial staff sat on the story because of economic considerations while all the evidence points to them cooperating solely because Fitzgerald asked them to.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM

I don’t see anything really being done unless Fitz goes after Obama to take away the any chance of pardon.

MrX on December 12, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Rahm “Twinkle Toes” Emanuel is tap dancing around the issue.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM

Riverdance!

the_nile on December 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM

I think that Fitz has been working on this for three years and he has more than enough on Blago to send him to prison.The senate seat deal is just frosting on the cake.Fitz made his move now because if he had waited until after Jan. Obama would have fired him and his case would not be pursued by his sucessor.

jellybelly on December 12, 2008 at 11:21 AM

I’m shaking my head in disbelief.

When I first heard Obama’s blanket denial I knew he was lying, but I never thought he would be found out. Neither did he.

This begs the question: How are people that named their children and schools after a man they know virtually nothing about feeling now?

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Fitz made the arrest now because the bleeping Tribune spilled the beans on the wiretap.

Can we call this BleepingGate?

faraway on December 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM

“Silence of the Rham” …. LOL!

wise_man on December 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM

How are people that named their children and schools after a man they know virtually nothing about feeling now?

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Those mouth-breathers don’t have the intellect to grapple with the significance of what’s currently being unearthed.

LimeyGeek on December 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

What’s exactly was “found out”?

This is what Obama initially said:

The president-elect was blunt and brief in addressing the case on Tuesday: “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening” concerning any possible dealing about Blagojevich’s appointment of a successor.

And in an interview with The Chicago Tribune — one of Blagojevich’s alleged marks — that ran Wednesday, Obama refused to say whether his incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had spoken with the governor.

“Let me stop you there because it’s an ongoing investigation. I think it would be inappropriate for me to, you know, remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know. And that’s the fact that I didn’t discuss this issue with the governor at all,” he said.

He never said no one on his staff — or more specifically Emmanuel — spoke to Blagojevich about the seat.

What do you think has been “found out” specifically?

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM

good point… but his is now time critical.

Once Obama is in the White House, Fitz knows this will be out of his hands… he will either be replaced, told to shut down, or the Democrat Controlled Congress will appoint a Special Prosecutor (who of course, will find nothing).

Fitz had to get people interested in the story BEFORE it could be shut down… to protect his OWN job… and… ambitions?

Romeo13 on December 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM

This begs the question: How are people that named their children and schools after a man they know virtually nothing about feeling now?

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Not to mention the people who VOTED for him!

Oink on December 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Fitz had to get people interested in the story BEFORE it could be shut down… to protect his OWN job… and… ambitions?

Romeo13 on December 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Ambitions? Illegal is illegal no matter what Fitz’s ambitions are (or aren’t).

Oink on December 12, 2008 at 11:29 AM

The best case scenario is that Team Obama cooperated or tipped off the feds to Blagojevich’s shakedown.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Oh, riiight, and included in the Tip Package was Obama’s Birth Certificate (complete with official seal, cert. number, doctor’s name who delivered him, parents’ names, his full name, his religious denomination per the parents), his academic records (all of them) and his medical record (all of that, too).

(Continuing this fantasy):

Then the feds were so busy with Blagojevich’s telephone calls that they shredded the rest of the subordinate Tip Package because they deemed that information not worth their time or concern, in reference to the U.S. Presidency.

S on December 12, 2008 at 11:30 AM

America deserves to have the Chicago machine go national. Once the fairness doctrine is law and once the now powerful Democrats are finished redistricting, they will have solidified power for generations to come….just like Chicago!

For those of you who voted for a completely inexperienced Senator from Chicago during one of the most tumultuous times in history (war, economic collapse, general national decline)whom we know NOTHING about except for the small glimpses of Ayers, Reverend Wright, ACORN that are likely to be hallmarks of his shady biography to come…..what were you thinking?

At least McCain/Palin would have been principled leaders who stood a small chance of reforming government.

Goodeye_Closed on December 12, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Oh damn, the plot THICKENS!

Man this is like watching a soap opera. Loving this, but hate soap operas.

upinak on December 12, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 9:20 AM

You overlook or omit the fact that Susan Rice doesn’t want to work with a lot of Americans, if not for most of them. Her refusal to work with someone is hardly an indication that someone’s not up to standards because she huffs and puffs against the best of them.

S on December 12, 2008 at 11:37 AM

You overlook or omit the fact that Susan Rice doesn’t want to work with a lot of Americans, if not for most of them. Her refusal to work with someone is hardly an indication that someone’s not up to standards because she huffs and puffs against the best of them.

I wrong, it was Valerie Jarrett that Obama suggested for the Senate. It was also Valerie Jarrett who he appointed to the White House staff four days after Blago ranted about Obama not giving him anything in exchange for her appointment.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM

We can’t have people saying how brilliant he is on the one hand and that he didn’t know anything on the other.

Connie on December 12, 2008 at 10:56 AM

You stated it better…
These people who say he (Obama) is so astute, has such a vast knowledge, is so intelligent, such a great organizer, leader…suddenly knows nothing about the people around him…not this once, but it is a pattern.
Wright, Ayers, Kwame, Jackson, Rahm, Blogfish, Johnson, Daley, the list is almost endless; every time he throws up his hands and states “I just didn’t know”…man he sure doesn’t know a lot of what is happening around him.

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:42 AM

How is this any different than Obama’s wife getting a $200,000 raise and a $50,000 board appointment and then Obama giving her employer a $2 million (??) earmark.

This is the way it was done in Chitown, quid pro quo, that’s why Blago was perplexed and felt dissed when Yobama’s crew said nuh-uh to their pay to play request.

Also, probably already mentioned herein, it better have been the Obama crew who tipped the feds or Q’s as to why they ignored extortion of this magnitude will be embarassing.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Blagojevich said, “He asks me for the fifth CD thing, I want it to be in his head.” Emanuel represents the 5th Congressional District in Illinois.

Will become significant statement, soon.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM

The best case scenario is that Team Obama cooperated or tipped off the feds to Blagojevich’s shakedown.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Remember this post…this is the BEST you hope for, anything less then this will be a failure, it will fall short of what should have been.
Remember this post, and own up to it when the facts are fully disclosed.
You are either going to apologize for supporting this man (and you won’t under any circumstances) or ignore you ever posted this…or use what Obama does, just distance yourself and redefine what you meant.

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM

If you haven’t seen these, Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs has excerpts from pages 62 – 68 of the Criminal Complaint: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VS. D R. BLAGOJEVICH, and JOHN HARRIS

107. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH discussed with Advisor B his idea for a 501(c)(4) organization. Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win because Change to Win already hasan existing stream of revenue and, therefore, “you won’t have stories in four years that they bought you off.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that he likes the 501(c)(4) idea because he knows it will be there in two years when he is no longer Governor, whereas Change to Win might not be.

and

110. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Advisor B that he told SEIU Official, “I said go back to [Senate Candidate 1], and, and say hey, look, if you still want to be a Senator don’t rule this out and then broach the idea of this 501(c)(4) with her.”

and

112. On November 13, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with JOHN HARRIS. ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he wanted to be able to call “[President-elect Advisor]” and tell President-elect Advisor that “this has nothing to do with anything else we’re working on but the Governor wants to put together a 501(c)(4)” and “can you guys help him. . . raise 10, 15 million.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he wanted “[President-elect Advisor] to get the word today,” and that when “he asks me for the Fifth CD thing I want it to be in his head.” (The reference to the “Fifth CD thing” is believed to relate to a seat in the United States House of Representatives from Illinois’ Fifth Congressional District. Prior intercepted phone conversations indicate that ROD BLAGOJEVICH and others were determining whether ROD BLAGOJEVICH has the power to appoint an interim replacement until a special election for the seat can be held.)

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM

I wrong, it was Valerie Jarrett that Obama suggested for the Senate. It was also Valerie Jarrett who he appointed to the White House staff four days after Blago ranted about Obama not giving him anything in exchange for her appointment.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM

The announcement that she no longer “is a candidate” for the Obama senate seat from IL was made the evening after the conference. We’ll find out what was discussed in that conference, soon enough. Until then, I’ll wait patiently.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Also from Pamela on Change to Win:

Change to Win is a six million member partnership of seven unions founded in 2005 to represent workers in the industries and occupations of the 21st century economy. The seven affiliated unions are: Service Employees International Union, UNITE HERE, United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Laborers’ International Union of North America, United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America and United Farm Workers of America.

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:47 AM

BTW Obama’s first choice to fill his senate seat was Jarrett, who along with Rezko was deeply involved in that shabby housing project that Obama touted. The Boston Globe article spelled out the connection.

An NRO columnist further concludes about this information:

Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to Obama’s presidential campaign and a member of his finance committee. Jarrett is the chief executive of Habitat Co., which managed Grove Parc Plaza from 2001 until this winter and co-managed an even larger subsidized complex in Chicago that was seized by the federal government in 2006, after city inspectors found widespread problems.

Is this some of the “change” that we can believe in? Using taxpayers’ money to line politicians’ and developers’ and contractors’ and bureaucratic managers’ pockets in order to create make-work infrastructure projects in a scheme writ federally large?

Jarrett is supposed to be rewarded for this inept boondoggle?

onlineanalyst on December 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM

From the criminal complaint – remember, the 5th congressional district is Rahm’s

to get the word today,” and that when “he asks me for the Fifth CD thing I want it to be in his head.” (The reference to the “Fifth CD thing” is believed to relate to a seat in the United States House of Representatives from Illinois’ Fifth Congressional District.

Pay attention to this – just store it, for now. It will play prominent.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:52 AM

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Unbelievable…
Is there any doubt who President-elect adviser is? Is there any doubt since these conversations was over 3 days that President Elect was not advised? Or does his cabinet and advisers just do these things on their own…which alone begs the question, how dangerous is a loose cannon, and doesn’t the “buck” stop at Obama’s desk? As he so stated…

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:52 AM

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Good point… one of the things that got Nixon was that people KNEW he was a smart guy… once things started to percolate they could not believe that he did not know what was going on….

Romeo13 on December 12, 2008 at 11:53 AM

I have a feeling Obama is going to have the largest legal staff of any President Elect in history…this young man is in real trouble…

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Bwahahaha at the thought that pisant Rahm is going to be off of The Black Caesar’s team before they even get into the White House. Even if The Black Caesar worms out of this one by saying he didn’t know Rahm had these conversations, Rahm has to go. How can he be an effective chief of staff when in his first major test he lies to everyone?

If Barry plays dumb then he will HAVE to say that Rahm lied to him. How can even the kissass media prop him up?

Exit question — Who is Obama’s next Chief of Staff going to be?

grdred944 on December 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:47 AM

May this, and the big-3 ‘bailout’ destroy the unions for good. They had a place, in 1800, but not in this global economy.

The political fallout might hurt those who claim to be “for the people” but to hell with them. They just like to keep their sheeple in a modern day serfdom, for power. No company can remain competitive with the union set up of today. It’s simply a 21st century reality. The markets might work, after all, give it a year.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:52 AM

I agree. It looks like Emanuel was doing the talking. It is really difficult to believe he wasn’t keeping Obama updated.

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM

God, you’re an idiot. (and I rarely call people names on here, but there’s really nothing else to say about you…)

I was speculating there… I didn’t say this is what I think happened. I merely said it’s a possibility — the best case one for Obama. So, there’s nothing to own up to if that’s not the case.

What I’ve said that I think happened (to which I will own up to if it turns out not to be true) is that Obama (or someone on his team) didn’t play ball with Blagojevich and pulled Jarrett from consideration once they found out what Blago wanted. This, I think, is pretty clearly backed up by the evidence.

Now, it’s also been shown that Blagojevich wanted to go back and offer to seat another candidate in exchange for some sort of “501″ scheme. Now, since Obama knew Blago was under investigation and had been distancing himself from him since at least August, I don’t think he would pull his #1 candidate only to “play ball” with his second choice. That doesn’t make sense to me. And since Blago shifted attention to Jessie Jr. in early December, it doesn’t seem he didn’t.

If that scenario turns out not to be true, I will come here and post that I was wrong.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM

How are people that named their children and schools after a man they know virtually nothing about feeling now?

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Named my daughters new pet rat after “The One”. Still feeling pretty good about the choice.

SoonerMarine on December 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Recall how hesitant Rahm was to take the chief of staff job? He might regret that decision, but take the fall for the big O. Love is indeed always blind.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

I hope the unions take a hit. I caught a little bit of the UAW press conference on FOX business this am. They were, of course, casting blame on the R’s and saying they’d been held to a different standard.

Corker later talked with FOX by himself from the Capitol. FOX mentioned that most of the other senators were home or going home. I certainly wish that a few of them had stayed to back up Corker.

INC on December 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that Rahm the Impaler is involved with something dirty.

The multiple meetings MUST have been because he was begging Blago to be honest and forthright in this matter. SURELY, that is what Obama’s direction was to his right-hand man.

notagool on December 12, 2008 at 12:01 PM

If that scenario turns out not to be true, I will come here and post that I was wrong.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM

I believe that you will. We all don’t know all the facts. It’s not going to be “I know nothing” a la Schulz, and probably not as bad as the righties hope that it is. It is, however, a huge clusterfark for your side, at a very interesting time, and you are one of the few on your side who’d have the balls to admit it.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM

LOL,…Wait and see,Emanuel is gonna take a fall for hussein, how sad is that..then again hussein will be dishing out the pardons.

christene on December 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Sorry, my B.S. meter just went off, Tom.

Well, you’ve got a shitty BS meter. And, so you don’t make the mistake again:

To infer is to glean information from material.

To imply is to suggest something.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Sorry you had such a poor education Tom. Here’s a tip, dictionary.com is a good place to get definitions of words. For infer the definition is :

1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.
2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.
3. to guess; speculate; surmise.
4. to hint; imply; suggest.
–verb (used without object)
5. to draw a conclusion, as by reasoning.

Not “to glean information.” One uses information to infer conclusions.

Ed inferred that the Tribune had some base motives to sit on the Blago story. You have inferred that Dear Leader is 100% pure in the Blago situation.

Me, I am skeptical and want further investigation.

rbj on December 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM

I see no reason to believe Obama himself did anything wrong. But it looks like he’s going to do his standard lie/inartful comment/lie/correction routine.

And of course the man is an absolute idiot when it comes to the people he chooses to trust.

Chuck Schick on December 12, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I’ll admit it’s a cluster-fuck and not a good thing for our side, BUT I don’t see that Obama or Emmanuel have done anything wrong up to this point. And from the evidence, I doubt anything will come to light that shows they acted inappropriately.

Now, since I put myself on the line. What do you or anyone else think likely happened if you think I’m wrong?

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Ed inferred that the Tribune had some base motives to sit on the Blago story. You have inferred that Dear Leader is 100% pure in the Blago situation.

No, he (and I) implied:

im⋅ply   [im-plahy] Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -plied, -ply⋅ing.
1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated: His words implied a lack of faith.

You inferred that I think Obama 100% clean.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Maybe he picked a wrong day to quit smoking …..

Sir Napsalot on December 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Maybe he picked a wrong day to quit smoking …..

Sir Napsalot on December 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Yeah, and I definatly picked the wrong time to quit drinkin…

Romeo13 on December 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Now, since I put myself on the line. What do you or anyone else think likely happened if you think I’m wrong?

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM

I have no clue as to the details but I believe the extremely driven and verbose Mr. Emmanuel’s abrubt silence speaks volumes, strictly from a psychological standpoint. I also think we’ll be surprised when the numbers in the criminal complaint will be revealed. Fitz’s timing is very telling too, from a variety of angles.

I’ll just observe and wonder. It’s not going to go away for at least 2 years, nor will Fitz be fired.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM

I’ll admit it’s a cluster-fuck and not a good thing for our side, BUT I don’t see that Obama or Emmanuel have done anything wrong up to this point. And from the evidence, I doubt anything will come to light that shows they acted inappropriately.
Now, since I put myself on the line. What do you or anyone else think likely happened if you think I’m wrong?

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM

So, you don’t think anything was wrong with the obamansion-rezko land deal? The tax evasion aspect of that alone is insane. Oh yes, there was a later quid pro quo where rezko got some favorable treatement.

IF rhammie goes down you will be faced with choosing between (1) Obama had no clue what was going on with his senate seat (A clueless guy at the helm in these turbulent times.. hang on folks) or (2) Obama knew what was going on and didn’t drop a dime (Thereafter being referered to as PResident-elect-indicted Obama. )

bullseye on December 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM

I’ll just observe and wonder. It’s not going to go away for at least 2 years, nor will Fitz be fired.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Fitz won’t be fired unless President Biden fires him

bullseye on December 12, 2008 at 12:25 PM

S/b Emanuel – I’m sure the good gent will forgive me, with other worries on his mind.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Hope.

Change.

Corrupution.

cannonball on December 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM

I have a feeling Obama is going to have the largest legal staff of any President Elect in history…this young man is in real trouble…

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

I’ll believe it when I see it. I know he has got to be crooked coming out of Chicago politics, But pinning something on him that sticks is a different story.

saiga on December 12, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Seems to me, if Emmanuel knew that the Illinois Governor was trying to get favors in exchange for the seat, then even if he turned the Gov. down, Emmanuel is culpable for not going to the authorities.

If you know someone his about to or has committed a crime, you have a responsibility to report it to the authorities, particularly someone in a position like Emmanuel has.

Or doesn’t the sort of questions they ask government security clearance applications apply to the connected? If not, why not?

NoDonkey on December 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM

The Fool is going to escape unscathed.

Rahn the Impaler will probably escape unscathed, but if he has to, the Fool will throw the Impaler under the bus.

I only hope that the Fool’s little girls never do anything to get Obama in political trouble.

notagool on December 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM

It wouldn’t take “multiple” meetings for Emanuel to decide to squeal. If Emanuel continued meeting with Blagojevich, that indicates some kind of negotiating was happening, and that would strongly suggest that Emanuel was working on Blagojevich’s terms.

I have low friends in high places who have lower friends in higher places.
- Governor Rod Blagojevich (democrat)

Great crooks have little crooks that can squeal on ‘em,
And little crooks have lesser crooks, and so ad infinitum.
And the great crooks themselves, in turn, have greater crooks they can squeal on, while these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.

MB4 on December 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Ed,

Are you aware that the video’s been pulled by Fox?

philwynk on December 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM

I’ll admit it’s a cluster-fuck and not a good thing for our side, BUT I don’t see that Obama or Emmanuel have done anything wrong up to this point. And from the evidence, I doubt anything will come to light that shows they acted inappropriately.

Now, since I put myself on the line. What do you or anyone else think likely happened if you think I’m wrong?

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Tom be shoveling on a BEACH of BS with an iddy biddie kiddie shovel.
Sooooo much faith in his messiah.
Sooo much hope….
Sooo much BS
Shovel Tom ! Shovel !

>:)

Handel on December 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM

God, you’re an idiot. (and I rarely call people names on here, but there’s really nothing else to say about you…)

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Thank you, that is one of the best posts I have received.
Being called an idiot, by a liberal Democrat is an honor, and shows that you at least hold true to your pitiful values.
Thank you, you are one of the people on this blog that I have caught the most not stating the truth.
This post, I won’t remember, but I will remember the one you called me an idiot about…that is the one that you will most regret.
I cough in the direction of your face…

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:29 PM

I think it could stick to Obama:

“Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win”

“from the president’-elect’s perspective” suggests, strongly that he was being advised of the situation, had given a cost benefit analysis to the options and came to a means end conclusion that it wasn’t worth the risk. I say if he didn’t make a call to the feds at that point he was complicit.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM

BTW, why don’t they use names instead of cryptic “senate candidate 1,2 etc” titles. In my mind they are all just as dirty for playing along. Out the bastards.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Wow, just wow! Check out this site (an Indy-Progressive one, at that!) that traces through the efforts of multiple journalists the Obama-Rezko-Blagojevich-Rahm connections.
http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle280308.htm

onlineanalyst on December 12, 2008 at 1:41 PM

BTW, why don’t they use names instead of cryptic “senate candidate 1,2 etc” titles. In my mind they are all just as dirty for playing along. Out the bastards.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 1:34 PM

They do that to protect someone who may be found innocent later on. They try not to taint someones reputation before they have the real evidence…and you never show your hand until you are called.
You don’t think someone is saying “Am I #6?”. The “bastards” will be out, with a few more.

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:44 PM

BTW, why don’t they use names instead of cryptic “senate candidate 1,2 etc” titles. In my mind they are all just as dirty for playing along. Out the bastards.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 1:34 PM

They do that to protect someone who may be found innocent later on. They try not to taint someones reputation before they have the real evidence…and you never show your hand until you are called.
You don’t think someone is saying “Am I #6?”. The “bastards” will be out, with a few more.

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:44 PM

I would also think that the references instead of names might make some people nervous and spook them into doing something dumb.

The other reason could be if they bring someone in and the ‘offer information’ the less the feds gave away the better they are able to vet the veracity of the person giving them the info.

bullseye on December 12, 2008 at 1:52 PM

there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement

Fewer?
Geez, on CSI they only need one.

PaddyJ on December 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Where’s the first fingerpring. No one has actually proven diddly yet.

DeathToMediaHacks on December 12, 2008 at 2:19 PM

“Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win”

This is fromo where? The Affadavit?

DeathToMediaHacks on December 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

O ye of little faith, why didst thou doubt?

The One sits and dines amongst the tax-collectors and sinners, yet he remains pure.

Thus the Messiah spake: Blessed are those who believe in me (without proof or seeing).

/Disciple #1

Sir Napsalot on December 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

It’s Friday. I’ve got $100 that says that NLT Tuesday, Rahmbo decides to step down as O-$hit’s CoS “in order to spend more time with my family.”

Roc on December 12, 2008 at 2:23 PM

They do that to protect someone who may be found innocent later on. They try not to taint someones reputation before they have the real evidence…and you never show your hand until you are called.
You don’t think someone is saying “Am I #6?”. The “bastards” will be out, with a few more.

right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Hot air really should invest in an ‘eye roll’ emoticon.

Handel on December 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM

If Hussein sparks up in the whitehouse I want to be able to torch up a Monte Carlo when I go go there, fair is fair, it’s our house too.

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Yes, it is, EXCEPT…

Smoking in Federal Buildings

1. What is the policy on smoking in federal buildings?

The President issued an Executive Order 13058, “Protecting Federal Employees and the Public from Exposure to Tobacco Smoke in the Federal Workplace,” on August 9, 1997, establishing a smoke-free environment for federal employees and members of the public visiting or using federal facilities.
2. Is smoking banned in all federal space?

The Executive Order bans smoking in all Executive Branch facilities, all interior space owned, rented, or leased space by the Executive Branch of the federal government.
3. Are there any exceptions to this ban?

There are certain excepted spaces, which include:
* designated smoking areas;
* residential accommodations in buildings owned, leased, rented by the federal government;
* portions of federally-owned buildings leased, rented, or otherwise provided (in their entirety) to non-federal parties; and
* places of employment in the private sector or in other non-federal governmental units that serve as the permanent or intermittent duty station of one or more federal employees.

4. What about outside areas, such as around doorways and air intake ducts?

The Executive Order does not apply to outdoor areas under Executive Branch control, except in front of air intake ducts. In the case of locations such as doorways and in courtyards, agency heads shall evaluate the need to restrict smoking in order to protect workers and visitors from environmental tobacco smoke, and may restrict smoking in these areas.
5. Where can I find the regulations on this policy?

Check out the website http://www.gsa.gov/realpropertypolicy or contact Ken Holstrom at Ken.Holstrom@gsa.gov.

And, while I think the exceptions are a whole lot of crapola, there they are…

uncivilized on December 12, 2008 at 2:49 PM

This is fromo where? The Affadavit?

DeathToMediaHacks on December 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

pages 62 – 68 of the Criminal Complaint: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VS. D R. BLAGOJEVICH, and JOHN HARRIS

Alden Pyle on December 12, 2008 at 2:51 PM

This is fromo where? The Affadavit?

DeathToMediaHacks on December 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Here’s the link.

Entelechy on December 12, 2008 at 2:56 PM

More on Rahm Emanuel; Rahm Emanuel Evading taxes?

Dasher on December 12, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Now some facts – he should step down immediately.

AprilOrit on December 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM

More on Rahm Emanuel; Rahm Emanuel Evading taxes?

Dasher on December 12, 2008 at 2:56 PM

From the above-mentioned link:

He created a fraudulent charity in 2002, named it after him and his wife, set its address as his personal residence, and voila, taxes are gone:

Hey – my kids think I’m a charity – if it works for Rhammie, maybe it’ll work for me!!!

uncivilized on December 12, 2008 at 3:09 PM

I went to Comedy Central’s Daily Show site out of curiosity to see if they had posted anything about Blagojevich’s auctioning off Obama’s senate seat. I mean, it seems like pretty big news, and since they are a fake news show, you would think they would cover it, right?

And they do, sorta kinda, but Jon Stewart handles it by making fun of Blago’s name and the history of corruption in Illinois, specifically in the governor’s office. I watched all 4 recent videos posted about Blago, and NOT ONCE does Stewart mention the names Obama, Emanuel, Axelrod, Jarret, Jackson, or anyone remotely linked to the President-elect Messiah. Some of the news clips he uses do mention Obama’s vacant seat, but that’s as close as they get to mentioning The One.

And now The Daily Show has conveniently gone on hiatus until after the holidays…coincidence?

Here are the clips

ornery_independent on December 12, 2008 at 3:10 PM

And now The Daily Show has conveniently gone on hiatus until after the holidays…coincidence?

Here are the clips

ornery_independent on December 12, 2008 at 3:10 PM

They go on break every year like this – they are only in production a 4 year week as it is, many breaks throughout filming – the season.

John Stewart has covered it – making fun of him with disgust as well and Colbert referred to his hideous head of hair as a helmet with some kind of joke about him going into battle with the Democratic Party.

The clips are there.

AprilOrit on December 12, 2008 at 3:32 PM

they are only in production a 4 year week

meant to say – a 4 day week.

AprilOrit on December 12, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Rut roh, Rahm-bo.

Sergeant Tim on December 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM

April, I noted that he has covered Blago, but my point is in what is omitted from the story. And actually Stewart makes fun of Blago’s hair and his name and previous corrupt IL guvs without really discussing the story itself.

But it’s early yet, and The Daily Show will resume on Jan 5, so we’ll see where it goes…

ornery_independent on December 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM

“Emanuel, with his ties to Illinois politics and his status as Obama’s right-hand man, would make the most likely candidate to handle those negotiations”

True dat

“That doesn’t necessarily mean that Emanuel knew about Blagojevich’s efforts to extort payment for the selection”

Uhm, actually it DOES mean that Emanuel/Obama/Team Obama KNEW of Blago’s pay for play.

We have been told that there is tape of Blago being P-off cuz Obama won’t play ball with him.

It’s kinda sorta hard for Emanuel/Obama/Team Obama to refuse to play ball unless they know the game is on.

You can’t refuse, or choose, not to participate in something, you know nothing about.

Since Obama has made it CLEAR he (along with his staff) have had NO Contact with Blago, he has no wiggle room.

DSchoen on December 12, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Rahm Emanuel?

He’s just some guy who lives in Chicago, I don’t really know him, never had any discussions with him about anything, hey our kids go to the same school.

President elect Barney Fife

DSchoen on December 12, 2008 at 5:00 PM

How are people that named their children and schools after a man they know virtually nothing about feeling now?

Dorvillian on December 12, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Just as starry-eyed as before. Dead bodies could be found in shallow graves in Obama’s back yard and they’d find justification. “So, he MIGHT have killed a few people! Well at least we didn’t elect McSame and Nitwit! You LOST, GET OVER IT!” I can hear it now.

ddrintn on December 12, 2008 at 5:11 PM

That picture of Rahm-beau is perfect for this story.

Harpoon on December 12, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Advisor B is a Blagojevich advisor, not an advisor to Obama (they referred to Obama’s advisor to “The president-elect’s advisor” in the affidavit). According the affidavit they had not pitched this idea to Obama’s team as of yet, so advisor B is most likely just speculating on what would seem more attractive to Obama’s team.

Also, I assume you’ve all seen by now that Emmanuel is not a target of the investigation, according to two sources.

Tom_Shipley on December 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Several have made the point above, but it bears repeating. The affidavit states clearly that Blago is steamed at Obama because Obama (or advisor) refused to play along. If Blago is steamed about the refusal, then someone did the refusing.

Ergo, Obama (or advisor, which is the same thing) Knew About The Offer.

You can’t get around it.

Why The Hell Did Obama (or advisor) Not Call the FBI?

redneck hippie on December 12, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Several have made the point above, but it bears repeating. The affidavit states clearly that Blago is steamed at Obama because Obama (or advisor) refused to play along. If Blago is steamed about the refusal, then someone did the refusing.

Ergo, Obama (or advisor, which is the same thing) Knew About The Offer.

You can’t get around it.

Why The Hell Did Obama (or advisor) Not Call the FBI?

redneck hippie on December 12, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Yep. As Limbaugh has said, when a Republican is accused of scandal, the press plays prosecutor. When Democrats are accused, the press plays defense attorney.

ddrintn on December 12, 2008 at 6:33 PM

So true drintn

redneck hippie, I like your nicname…off topic, I dressed as a hippie and went out in public for Halloween. I said out loud in a crowd “Hippies for McCain!” while surrounded by Obama voters who expected the opposite…they didn’t like that too much.

Disclaimer: McCain wasn’t in my top 3 choices, so I was basically voting “Anyone but Obama”

ornery_independent on December 12, 2008 at 7:14 PM

Hide the steak knives!

HornetSting on December 12, 2008 at 7:17 PM

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