AP to Obama: Why so quiet about your team’s Blago probe?

posted at 8:30 pm on December 12, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ed Rendell conveniently frames The One’s cautious handling of this as an amateur mistake that’s destined to prolong the coverage. Really? Amateurishness isn’t the first quality that springs to mind when I think of someone like Axelrod. Nor does the infamously combative Rahm Emanuel strike me as the type to be cowed into silence by death threats. Here’s a radical alternative theory: Maybe they’re honestly worried that someone on the team’s exposed and don’t want to give the press any new crumbs until they have their story straight.

Obama’s staff has declined to respond to even basic questions, like who is conducting the probe, how long it will take, what issues are being explored and whether they are working with federal investigators. Obama has promised transparency throughout his service and to divulge contacts his staff has had with Blagojevich’s office in the coming days. But his staff has locked down on inquiries in the meantime…

Emanuel is not a target of the probe, according to people who have been briefed on the investigation.

The two people spoke on a condition of anonymity because the criminal investigation is ongoing. One is a person close to Emanuel, who said he has been told by investigators that he’s not a subject of their probe…

Another question that Obama’s staff didn’t answer is how he knows that his office had no involvement if he had yet to gather all the facts about conversations they had with Blagojevich’s office. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, transition officials said they do not want to release any information on the internal review until it is completed.

My hunch is the same as Maguire’s — that someone on the team was approached by Blago to make a deal, that the offer was rejected, but that that person then neglected to tell Fitzgerald about it. Is that illegal, i.e. misprision of felony, or just shady? Such are the questions Team Barry may find itself momentarily consumed by.

In case you’re wondering, no, Obama’s approval rating hasn’t suffered from this at all.


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Woodward and Bernstein are too busy nailing George to the cross. They have no time for trivial pursuits.

Limerick on December 13, 2008 at 1:40 AM

First, wasn’t the Savior Elect supposed to be the transparent embodiment of the new politics?

IlikedAUH2O on December 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM

I happen to think that the Precedent-Elect’s lies are exceedingly transparent.

progressoverpeace on December 13, 2008 at 1:42 AM

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Unfortunately, we did get fooled again.

Hawthorne on December 13, 2008 at 4:49 AM

but that that person then neglected to tell Fitzgerald about it. Is that illegal, i.e. misprision of felony, or just shady?

Ask Scooter Libby

peacenprosperity on December 13, 2008 at 6:03 AM

Ask Scooter Libby

Libby lied. I don’t think it would be illegal to not tell authorities.

Unfortunately, we did get fooled again.

No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong. In fact, the evidence shows they had the opportunity to do something illegal, but chose not to. I know you guys want a scandal, but I don’t think this is it. You can have fun watching how Obama handles it, but I don’t see anyone on his team losing their job. And I don’t see it seriously affecting the beginning of his presidency.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

but I don’t see anyone on his team losing their job.

Heck no.Those positions cost a bundle$$$

Jed1899 on December 13, 2008 at 7:04 AM

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

We have corruption on both sides of the isle Tom. The only real difference with the citizens seems to be in our response to the corruption. I have yet to see you (and people like you) do anything other than make excuses for the corruption your leaders get themselves involved in. On my side of the spectrum, we demand full disclosure, the truth, and then we get rid of the scum.

You spend enough time here Tom to explain your positions. What do you think of this governor and his criminal behavior at the expense of the people? What do you think of Rezko and Ayers involvement with the political scene in Chicago & their direct involvement with Obama?

Keemo on December 13, 2008 at 7:19 AM

No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

Is there ANY corruption that ObaMcCarthy is involved in that you wouldn’t spin?

Good gravy! The real question is WHY did Blago even approach the ObaMcCarthy team with this kind of offer? What is it about ObaMcCarthy that leads the worst scum in our society to believe that ObaMcCarhty would be open to this kind of corruption? We’ve got Rezko, Ayres, Wright, Flager, and now Blago.

Dig your head out of your ass, clean the $hit out of your ears and grow the f*** up! ObaMcCarthy is corrupt as the day is long and he attracts those whom are of the same ilk.

csdeven on December 13, 2008 at 7:29 AM

On my side of the spectrum, we demand full disclosure, the truth, and then we get rid of the scum.

Keemo, not only do we demand full disclosure – the “other side of the aisle” demands it (quite shrilly, I might add), and then beats us over the head with it on a daily basis. If the players in question had been Republicans, SanFran Nan and “Giggles” Reid would be in full cry, hijacking the airways and demanding, DEMANDING immediate resignations, indictments, hangings, deportations, etc., etc.

uncivilized on December 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM

Here is some additional “meat” for you to digest Shipley.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122902161394098863.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

You take up much of our time with your comments about our politicians, how about having an honest discussion with us about yours…

Keemo on December 13, 2008 at 8:04 AM

Note to deathotmediahacks and the other liberals:

Hello. Morally? Ethically?

We are better! Why do you think Blago didn’t call any Republicans? We are certainly more desperate and supposedly richer…

IlikedAUH2O on December 13, 2008 at 8:12 AM

uncivilized…

Right you are! Check this out…

http://laborpains.org/2008/12/12/22-pounds-uaw-rules-and-regulations/

We must rid our country of the unions that bring about this kind of load…

Keemo on December 13, 2008 at 8:13 AM

So does Hillary support the incumbent POTUS, Joe Biden, in 2012 or does she make another run ?

JonRoss on December 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM

I know you guys want a scandal, but I don’t think this is it.

Shipley

A scandal is Barney Frank running a gay male prostitution ring out of his home. That’s a scandal. This is a sucking chest wound in the soul of the Democrat Party, and Obama knows it.

Like a leper messiah.

jeff_from_mpls on December 13, 2008 at 8:36 AM

… You can have fun watching how Obama handles it, but I don’t see anyone on his team losing their job. And I don’t see it seriously affecting the beginning of his presidency.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

You don’t “see” a lot of things.

Here is a well known fact from Chicago/Illinois politics. No one, no one, repeat, no one rises in the political scene in Chicago without playing the game. The game is not played legally. That is a fact. Court records prove that. So, if you believe that BHO came out of the Chicago political machine without playing the game then you are seriously self-delusional.

Someone on BHO’s transition team is going to have to take a fall as a distraction from BHO’s past game playing, irregardless of whether you “see” it happening, or not.

What will be very interesting is to see how you spin the fact when someone loses their job on BHO’s team over this matter. Most of us are pretty sure that you will “see” it differently than the facts suggest.

Yoop on December 13, 2008 at 8:56 AM

The messiah rose out of the primordial ooze that is Chicago politics and yet he AND his minions are squeaky clean? Please, I did not just fall off the yutz wagon. And we are to beieve that this phony is going to elevate political practice and discourse? To the point-what did the messiah do to elevate political practice and discourse in Chicago while he was there? Did he head an effort to clean up the mess? Did he attack the endemic corruption? No he attached himself to the Daley machine and used it for his personal and poltitical advantage. PHONY<PHONY<PHONY.
And now thanks to the mindless hopenchangers, the mainstream press, and the worst Republican candidate maybe ever we are stuck with this corrupt, affirmative action, self important socialist for at least 4 years.
For some perspective on the whole political scandal thing check out Victor Davis Hanson’s piece from 12/8. Spot on.

stu.b.con on December 13, 2008 at 8:57 AM

As much fun as this scandal is — as Jonah Goldberg has pointed out so well — I don’t think think that it will hurt The One in the long term. It certainly wasn’t a scandal for Obama’s minions to communicate with Blago about The One’s Senate replacement. Even Blago bitched that Obama wasn’t paying up.

HOWEVER, it is CURIOUS why Rahmbo is acting so squirrelly!? Why is this? Is he worried that he was caught on tape saying something inconvenient? I wonder if any of those highly-paid reporters back from Alaska would care do some “investigating?” They sure were curious about the last high-profile Fitzgerald case, the whole Scooter Libby non-scandal (why was it OK for Holbrooke at the State Dept to be the leaker but not Scooter?

Lastly, Scott Turow made an interesting point that Fitz was forced to go public earlier than he wanted to, in order to avoid a Senate seat being sold. This may undermine his ability to indict Blago as he only has 15 days before Grand Jury. If everybody turtles, this thing may die.

johnboy on December 13, 2008 at 9:02 AM

who in obambi’s team will fall on their sword? or will he just let the people in chicago have their melt down & continue on as nothing has happened?

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM

who in obambi’s team will fall on their sword? or will he just let the people in chicago have their melt down & continue on as nothing has happened?

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM

Prescient questions, for sure. But the answer will dismay you: Barack Obama simply doesn’t know what to do right now. His phone has been ringing non-stop since 3 AM, he’s huddling with his advisors, but they can’t give him properly objective advice, seeing as how their primary focus is to avoid prison time.

This is a fitting advent for a false messiah.

Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass.

Barack Obama rides into Washington as an ass.

The distinction is important.

jeff_from_mpls on December 13, 2008 at 9:21 AM

well, we know barfy will lie because he simply doesn’t recognize the truth when it smacks him in the face.

rahm can resign as chief of staff & retain his seat in congress. he can run for senator one day & probably win because all corruption is possible in illinois it seems.

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 9:41 AM

Remember Rahm Emanual’s House of Representatives seat is up for sale, er, a new person to fill it, too, correct?

(And while Obama has resigned his Senate seat, Emanual has not resigned his seat in Congress.)

Obama + Emanual seats in Congress = 2 for 1 sale? Double your money? Let’s make a really BIGGGG deal…?

Wonder why or if Emanual did not consider trying to get Obama’s Senate seat – more future there than as a Chief of Staff at the White House.

albill on December 13, 2008 at 9:43 AM

As a Conservative, Bush never “rang my bell”. However, one thing I did NOT miss about the Clinton administration during Bush’s term was all of the sleazy, almost weekly, stories churning out on the Clintons and/or their administration. One, after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, on and on, and on, and on. It really wore me down.

We had a few with Bush (alleged draft dodging) but from a drama perspective it was very tame. I liked it.

Here we are with Obama not even in office yet and we have a scandal. Please, please, please tell me I don’t have to go through another 4 to 8 years of Enquirer like scandals and drama with this new administration.

Being that there are a lot of Clintons in this administration I guess that would probably be too much to ask.

watson007 on December 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Unfortunately, we did get fooled again.

Hawthorne on December 13, 2008 at 4:49 AM

No, we didn’t get fooled, we knew Obama was a snake and refused to pick him up. The people that got fooled, that is, snake-bit, were the people who believed his lies and promises and voted for him hoping to get change. They now know, even if they refuse to acknowledge, that was all smoke and mirrors to get their votes.
I had a line supervisor tell me once, when we got a new manager who made all sorts of promises, “well, it’s the same ol’ cart, just a different horse.” And that’s true with Obama.

abcurtis on December 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM

No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong. In fact, the evidence shows they had the opportunity to do something illegal, but chose not to. I know you guys want a scandal, but I don’t think this is it. You can have fun watching how Obama handles it, but I don’t see anyone on his team losing their job. And I don’t see it seriously affecting the beginning of his presidency.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

Absolutely true. The media have far too much riding on this guy to let him fail.

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass.

Barack Obama rides into Washington as an ass.

The distinction is important.

jeff_from_mpls on December 13, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Thanks for the laugh.

Poor Obama: if only he had used his Harvard education to become a conservative!

Aronne on December 13, 2008 at 9:45 AM

who in obambi’s team will fall on their sword? or will he just let the people in chicago have their melt down & continue on as nothing has happened?

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM

He will continue on as much as possible and expects everyone else to move on, as well. He would much rather be treating the media with questions about this like they are nut jobs just out to get him.

Elektra on December 13, 2008 at 9:45 AM

but that that person then neglected to tell Fitzgerald about it. Is that illegal, i.e. misprision of felony, or just shady?

Ask Scooter Libby

peacenprosperity on December 13, 2008 at 6:03 AM

Or Martha Stewart who convicted of lying about a non-crime.

Amendment X on December 13, 2008 at 9:46 AM

Nothing to see here, move along… But say, don’t you realize that Sarah Palin is a sleazy, criminal, unethical hayseed?

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 9:49 AM

No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

I saw somebody else post this response elsewhere, so I cant take credit for it:
Mr Shipley – do you suppose Obama is the one virgin in the whorehouse?

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think Obama is in the Blag thing up to his eyeballs.

abcurtis on December 13, 2008 at 9:51 AM

I saw somebody else post this response elsewhere, so I cant take credit for it:
Mr Shipley – do you suppose Obama is the one virgin in the whorehouse?

abcurtis on December 13, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Of course he is. He has to be.

Let a Republican though say something like “We’re certain theres no wrongdoing here. But we have nothing else to say until we do our investigation.”

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 9:54 AM

In case you’re wondering, no, Obama’s approval rating hasn’t suffered from this at all.

Clinton’s approval ratings never suffered all that much during the whole Monica Lewisky trial. I think we about to go through Clinton’s third term.

terryannonline on December 13, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Adverse political consequences for misdeeds (real or perceived) is something reserved for Republicans. Hell, Rangel will probably thrive.

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 10:02 AM

I know you guys want a scandal, but I don’t think this is it.

Shipley

Sorry to burst your bubble, Mr Shipley, but I got enough of scandals during the Clinton years. I dont want to see a scandal in the Obama administration, but the nature of politics being what it is, and Obama bubbling to the top of the Chicago machine, I fully expect quite a few. What we are seeing here is just the beginning.
What I want to see is decent governing, with the well being of this country being out in front. But people in Hell probably want ice water too.
And a president cannot deliver that if he and his staff are constantly putting out brush fire scandals. If politicians would keep their noses clean, they wouldnt have to worry about getting caught and thus creating a scandal. No, I dont want any more scandals.

abcurtis on December 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM

No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong.

Not yet anyways..

In fact, the evidence shows they had the opportunity to do something illegal, but chose not to.

Hold da phone there.. If they knew about the Senate Seat Red Tag sale and didn’t report it, then they DID do something illegal right there.

I know you guys want a scandal, but I don’t think this is it.

Actually, I don’t want any scandals. I want honest government. Selling a senate seat is a scandal. Getting a guy to help buy your home to the tune of a couple hundred thou and later doing favors for him is a scandal. Channeling public money to an organization and then having your wife get a huge pay raise is a scandal. I would say your are correct only in that you phrased your last sentence above in the singular. The truth is there are multiple scandals.. already… and he hasnt’ even taken the oath yet..

You can have fun watching how Obama handles it, but I don’t see anyone on his team losing their job. And I don’t see it seriously affecting the beginning of his presidency.

Well, for the YES WE CAN chanting dimwits, it probably won’t change things. There is a possibility that it could affect the beginning of his presidency by not allowing it to occur. IE. the prosecuteor does not allow any member of the Supreme Court into the cellblock to administer the oath. Hey, a sitting republican president was forced out. A republican VP was forces out. A republican Senator is currently in jail for selling his office. Why not throw a corrupt democrat in?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:04 AM

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think Obama is in the Blag thing up to his eyeballs.

Just curious… why would you think this considering Blagojevich is recording cursing out Obama because he (or his team) won’t give him anything but “appreciation” for the senate seat. Also consider that shortly after that recording, Obama named his top choice for the senate seat to the White House staff.

Doesn’t that signal that Obama (or his team) was not willing to “play ball” with Obama?

Now, it’s possible they did some negotiating after the 14th, where there’s about a 2 week gap in the affidavit, but I don’t think that’s probable given their reluctance to do so initially and the fact Obama has been distancing himself since at least August from Blago because he knew he was under investigation.

What’s the basis for your opinion?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:06 AM

Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass.

Barack Obama rides into Washington as an ass.

The distinction is important.

jeff_from_mpls on December 13, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass.

Bill Clinton spent his career looking for ass

Barack Obama rides into Washington as an ass.

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:07 AM

If they knew about the Senate Seat Red Tag sale and didn’t report it, then they DID do something illegal right there.

A) we don’t know if they reported it or not.

B) Are you sure it would be illegal for them not to report it?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Just curious… why would you think this considering Blagojevich is recording cursing out Obama because he (or his team) won’t give him anything but “appreciation” for the senate seat. Also consider that shortly after that recording, Obama named his top choice for the senate seat to the White House staff.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:06 AM

Come on, Tom. If the principals were Republican, the spin would be “I thought they said they had no contact. LIARS!” Ad nauseam.

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Barack Obama simply doesn’t know what to do right now.

That’s right. In particle theory terms he’s in Brownian motion.
Hey Barack, try something virtuous for a change:
How about honesty and telling the truth so you can keep your story straight. Of course you talked to Blago about your Senate seat and you knew he was looking for money if he gave it to your gal Val and that’s why she pulled out.
And hey, Barack, looks like your man F-Bomb tutu Rahm is one cowardly Daddy. Maybe his virtue of the month could be courage and he could practice not throwing his kids in the way of the Press bus.

gracie on December 13, 2008 at 10:09 AM

don’t think that’s probable given their reluctance to do so initially and the fact Obama has been distancing himself since at least August from Blago because he knew he was under investigation.
What’s the basis for your opinion?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:06 AM

First of all, Barryo looked a little shook up by the turn of events. Lots of uhs and ams.. Anyway, your theory is that he is distancing himself from blago because he “knew he was under investigation”.. Doesn’t that bother you?? In other words, it was ok for barryo to align himself with blago prior, and don’t say he didn’t because he supported blagos campaigns.. Blago was obviously ethically challenged yet obama aligns himself with blago and doesn’t put any distance UNTIL there is an investigation..

Oh well, what do you expect from a guy who hangs around with the likes of unrepentant terrorist billy bomber ayers.

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:11 AM

If the principals were Republican, the spin would be “I thought they said they had no contact. LIARS!”

Obama said HE didn’t have any contact with Blago about the senate seat. He did not say whether anyone on his staff did:

And in an interview with The Chicago Tribune — one of Blagojevich’s alleged marks — that ran Wednesday, Obama refused to say whether his incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had spoken with the governor.

“Let me stop you there because it’s an ongoing investigation. I think it would be inappropriate for me to, you know, remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know. And that’s the fact that I didn’t discuss this issue with the governor at all,” he said.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM

First of all, Barryo looked a little shook up by the turn of events. Lots of uhs and ams.. Anyway, your theory is that he is distancing himself from blago because he “knew he was under investigation”.. Doesn’t that bother you?? In other words, it was ok for barryo to align himself with blago prior, and don’t say he didn’t because he supported blagos campaigns.. Blago was obviously ethically challenged yet obama aligns himself with blago and doesn’t put any distance UNTIL there is an investigation..

Oh well, what do you expect from a guy who hangs around with the likes of unrepentant terrorist billy bomber ayers.

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:11 AM

You must not understand. All the media justification comes down to is this, and it will hold true as long as Obama is president: Things like this do not matter, no matter what Obama did, didn’t do, or may have done.

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 10:14 AM

tom: as close as these chicago pols seem to be, why do you think that The Precious is so far removed from all the corruption since his political career arose from & because of it?

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM

“Let me stop you there because it’s an ongoing investigation. I think it would be inappropriate for me to, you know, remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know. And that’s the fact that I didn’t discuss this issue with the governor at all,” he said.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM

So as long as Nixon personally didn’t break into Watergate, things were cool. Gotcha.

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM

also, tom, this blog is about our opinions. we think bambi is dirty. we are probably right.(see ayers, wright, rezko, rahm, blago, daley et al.) and we are pretty damn excited to have our opinions validated by the present scandal erupting in chicago.

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM

And Barry’s not even in office yet. Pray for our country and pass the popcorn. It’s gonna be a looong four years.

kingsjester on December 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM

meanwhile, bambi wants to move into blair house early so his children can start school. can’t his children start school from a hotel? who thinks that the 2 weeks prior to the inauguration will be quiet, quality study time for the girls anyway? for once, Bush said no.

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM

So as long as Nixon personally didn’t break into Watergate, things were cool. Gotcha.

Guys, all the evidence so far points to no crime being committed by Team Obama. I’m the kind of person who likes to see some sort of evidence of wrong doing before I start accusing people of it.

as close as these chicago pols seem to be, why do you think that The Precious is so far removed from all the corruption since his political career arose from & because of it?

They really weren’t close. Read this.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Drink some more coffee (or something) Tom, and get that brain up and running. So far, you have continued to waste good time.

Keemo on December 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM

also, tom, this blog is about our opinions. we think bambi is dirty. we are probably right.

translation: we don’t like Obama, and despite the lack of evidence of any wrong doing on his part, we’re going to trash him anyway.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM

So as long as Nixon personally didn’t break into Watergate, things were cool. Gotcha.

Guys, all the evidence so far points to no crime being committed by Team Obama. I’m the kind of person who likes to see some sort of evidence of wrong doing before I start accusing people of it.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM

I’d say you’re probably right. But you have to admit that appearances here are pretty sleazy. Now, what are you doing to make sure that the Obama admin has a permanent sleazy stain? I mean, isn’t that the SOP for dealing with Republican pols from Reagan to Palin?

ddrintn on December 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM

tom, i read that article you referenced. i would say that the “facts” therein cut both ways. that would not be your strongest argument that The One is clean as the driven snow, right?

and of course we don’t like obama. he’s a crooked socialist.

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Right, Tom. He has been raised and groomed in Chicago politics starting as a Community Organizer and moving through state politics to burst onto the national scene and now is about to take the Oath of Office. And Rahmbo is on tape with Blago 6 times talking about the State Sentate Seat Situation. There is no machine behind him at all.

To quote Lt. Frank Drebin:

Move along, nothing to see here.

Yeah, right.

kingsjester on December 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM

ok, ok, let’s give tom the benefit of the doubt here. there is no direct evidence of obarfy discussing the “pay to play” scheme personally with gov. blago.

this is all a “distraction” from bambi’s main goals of bankrupting our country with more bailouts to the UAW, public works programs, universal health care & free mortgages for all.

kelley in virginia on December 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM

B) ….Are you sure it would be illegal for them not to report it?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM

I thought The One was the second coming, the great Hoper and Changer. If he will not OUT the thugs within his own camp why should we expect him to do the right thing in any other circumstance ?

He has announced that he is headed to a muslim country, soon after taking power, to grovel at the feet of islamic radicals. Will his people at the State Department or Defense Department refuse to rat on islamic radicals because just maybe the law doesn’t require them to ? His actions (or inactions)thus far in this affair show what many of us knew all along – the man has no moral core.

JonRoss on December 13, 2008 at 10:37 AM

also, tom, this blog is about our opinions. we think bambi is dirty. we are probably right.

translation: we don’t like Obama, and despite the lack of evidence of any wrong doing on his part, we’re going to trash him anyway.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Explain to me how the Rezko-obamamansion land deal was either ethical or legal.

Also, give us some further details of your meetings with Fitz over a couple of Lattes at starbucks where he is letting you know exactly what evidence exists or does not exist.

As far as evidence.

1. Barry has been involved with the shady side of chicago politics

2. The complaint makes it clear that there was an attempted sale of a senate seat.. barryo’s senate seat

3. Barryo has been involved in questionable transactions… his house, his wife’s salary etc.

4. Rhammie is acting really weird

5. Obie is known to twist the truth around ie ‘I’m a friend of gun owners and i’ll sue anyone who says otherwise”

So, it’s circumstantial.. However, this is not a court, nor is it a newspaper. As other posters mentioned, it is opinion and analysis. One reason I spend time here is to learn as much as I can about the situation (and to have a little fun).

I look at this like sparring. You and the other obamats come in and try to defend obie. I try to see if I can shoot holes in your arugments withing 3 seconds or less.

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I look at this like sparring. You and the other obamats come in and try to defend obie. I try to see if I can shoot holes in your arugments withing 3 seconds or less.

OK, when are you going to start?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM

also, tom, this blog is about our opinions. we think bambi is dirty. we are probably right.

translation: we don’t like Obama, and despite the lack of evidence of any wrong doing on his part, we’re going to trash him anyway.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM

I’ve seen no trashing here. People asking legitimate questions,yes. People demanding answers from The One and getting none. This will end when The One tells what he knew and when he knew it. It would be a tragedy of epic proportions to go through an historic inauguration only to have comrade President cuffed and perp-walked out of the White House within a few weeks of taking power. It could very well happen. He needs to come clean now about everything from Rezko to Blago.

JonRoss on December 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM

A citation from Federal law that’s worth a look:

TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 1

§ 4. Misprision of felony

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Rahm?

Smell the Change ™

Mason on December 13, 2008 at 10:56 AM

I look at this like sparring. You and the other obamats come in and try to defend obie. I try to see if I can shoot holes in your arugments withing 3 seconds or less.

OK, when are you going to start?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM

I did, you just aren’t paying attention…

Tell us.. Do you think that the Obamamansion-Rezko land deal was (1) ethical (2) Legal.. Keep in mind the favorable treatment that Rezko later received from obama.

So, two simple questions.. ethical and legal.. Two answers…

waiting……..

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:56 AM

translation: we don’t like Obama, and despite the lack of evidence of any wrong doing on his part, we’re going to trash him anyway.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Mr. Shipley,

Actually, as much as you might not recognize it, some of us here are actually pragmatists. Nothing about hate, all about the mounting “evidence”.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a… well, you know the drill.

Please be sure to hang around for your public flogging that will occur after one of PE-BHO’s transition team takes the hit, so that the “team” can move on.

You seem to be divorced from the reality that is taking shape right before your eyes.

Yoop on December 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM

I wish people would stop picking on Obama. He could be the best Kenyan born president America’s ever had.

Basilsbest on December 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Could you explain why the transcript comment about the importance of leaving fewer fingerprints directly from the President Elect was made? Why should it matter?

a capella on December 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM

a capella on December 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM

It appears that Tom isn’t going to come out and play with us today. Tom wants us to hear him and listen to his words of wisdom; Tom doesn’t come here to listen to us or answer our questions. Tom is above all of that….

Keemo on December 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Hey everyone, back off Tom S.

All he’s saying is that BO can’t be responsible for the actions of people who associate themselves with him. You know, like the US Attorney General, Secretary of State, White House Chief of Staff, the VP, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, etc…..

Unless, of course, it suits you to do so. Like GWB’s US Attorney General, Secretary of State, White House Chief of Staff, the VP, etc…..

Right, Tom?

BobMbx on December 13, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Could you explain why the transcript comment about the importance of leaving fewer fingerprints directly from the President Elect was made? Why should it matter?

Advisor B made this comment. It seems Advisor B is a Blagojevich advisor and has nothing to do with Obama. How I read it is that he’s speculating that it would be more appealing to Obama because it would be harder to trace back to Obama… IF Obama decided to go along with it.

Remember, at this point they hadn’t even pitched the idea to the “president-elect advisor.” So it’s just speculation on their part.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM

You seem to be divorced from the reality that is taking shape right before your eyes.

No, I’m the one who’s actually considering reality when drawing my conclusions.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Guys, all the evidence so far points to no crime being committed by Team Obama. I’m the kind of person who likes to see some sort of evidence of wrong doing when democrats are involved before I start accusing people of it.

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Fixed that for ya

AZfederalist on December 13, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Just curious… why would you think this considering Blagojevich is recording cursing out Obama because he (or his team) won’t give him anything but “appreciation” for the senate seat. Also consider that shortly after that recording, Obama named his top choice for the senate seat to the White House staff.

Doesn’t that signal that Obama (or his team) was not willing to “play ball” with Obama?

Nope..not at all really. What raises my eyebrow is if there was no real connection of any sort..WHY would blago be so irate about it? Why would he seem to think that he SHOULD be given something? Then be so bothered when he found out there was nothing comin down the pike for him?

Scratching of one anothers backs..you don’t have to be best palsie walsies do to that. Just opportunists.
Which obama being a product of honest and upright chicago, most definitely is.

PLUS: Your thinking too small. I want to know ALL the democrats that are involved. And if blago feels slighted…then he’ll take down as many of these jackasses as possible. And if that even touches obama…He’ll bleed.
The first major cut and he hasn’t even taken office yet!

I think that this is just the tip of the iceburg, and I look forward to chippin away at ‘hopenchange’ to reveal it for what it is.

‘Corruption’n’opportuism’…the chicago way.

Handel on December 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Smoking gun evidence is for juries. The evidence to make an assessment of someone’s overall character is rarely as clear cut. The constant insistence that Obama is untainted because we don’t have photographic evidence is ridiculous, whether or not his supporters admit it. The constant insistence that the man hasn’t lied because he never said that a AND b were true, so the fact that one of them is a lie doesn’t make him a liar, is so basically dishonest that I’m getting tired of listening.

If this is all the American people expect, carefully worded denials that will hold up in court, then the people of this country are unworthy of the blood that’s been shed to support their comfortably cynical lives. If there was anywhere left to go, to leave these jackasses to the mess they’ve made, I’d go there in a heartbeat. I’m considering Israel lately. They might be suffering from the same socialistic mindset, but they still have the courage to put themselves at risk to defend their liberty. Maybe the influx of some new blood will strengthen their resolve against the moral equivocators. Maybe people of such resolve only ever existed in our imaginations.

Maybe Detroit will finally collapse on itself and the rats will flee for more fertile grounds, leaving only those of us who are willing to work to rebuild to be left in peace. Until it becomes valuable enough to plunder again.

And the world goes on, unchanged. We never learn. Walter Miller had it right all along.

ral514 on December 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM

They’ll need a need new Pulitzer prize category. I suggest “Breaking News Avoidance.”

ex-Democrat on December 13, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Obama’s approval rating hasn’t suffered from this at all.

Media lies, America dies.

ex-Democrat on December 13, 2008 at 8:22 PM

“Propaganda made the Third Reich Barack Obama”

-Goebbels

ex-Democrat on December 13, 2008 at 8:49 PM

“No one on Obama’s team nor Obama himself has been accused of doing anything wrong. In fact, the evidence shows they had the opportunity to do something illegal, but chose not to.”

That’s the point Tom, “they had the opportunity to do something illegal”
AND DIDN”T REPORT IT!

Fritz said he had to arrest Blago now to prevent some “irreversible damage”

Does that mean Blago had already made a deal with someone else for the Senate seat?

The Gov didn’t need Obama’s permission as to who he appointed to Obama’s seat.

Obama, team Obama was just one of the possible players in this crime.

The problem for Obama as you pointed out they knew what Blago was up to and did nothing!
Is that illegal? Nope.

Just like David Cash saw he good buddy raping and murdering a 7 year old girl, Sherrice Iverson, in a Vegas bathroom. David Cash did nothing, knowing that a crime was being committed.

Obama, Team Obama knew a crime was going on and did nothing.
Do you find that acceptable?

DSchoen on December 13, 2008 at 11:33 PM

never forget…..

when the M$M is on a GOP trail they are Perry Mason

when the M$M is on a Donk trail they are Ben Matlock Inspector Clouseau Hamilton Burger.
….

sven10077 on December 12, 2008 at 8:34 PM
MB4 on December 12, 2008 at 10:25 PM

soundingboard on December 14, 2008 at 7:34 AM

Obama said HE didn’t have any contact with Blago about the senate seat. He did not say whether anyone on his staff did:

Six degrees of separation?

soundingboard on December 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM

OK, when are you going to start?

Tom_Shipley on December 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Ooh! Ooh! I know.

bullseye on December 13, 2008 at 10:04 AM

soundingboard on December 14, 2008 at 8:00 AM