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posted at 10:10 pm on December 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“I said ‘Look, if f we do win we’ll win with about 273 electoral votes and we’ll lose the popular vote by 3 million,’” recalled McInturff of the internal discussions about cutting attack ads with Wright. “If [McCain] had used that issue that way, you’d already be delegitimized as a president. You couldn’t function as government.”
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Well, I doubt it would have worked. But still, that’s relatively cowardly to only want to govern with you have a mandate. If you don’t believe that you can do a better job, mandate or no, then you shouldn’t run in the first place. Instead we get Obama. Thanks a lot.
Spirit of 1776 on December 11, 2008 at 10:14 PM
What the heck… worst candidate our side has ever had?
OneGyT on December 11, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Oh ok cool.
So it’s ok to become president if you sit in Wright’s church for 20 years and legitimize everything he says.
But it’s not ok to become president if you criticize what Wright says.
Riposte on December 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Its tough to run an old codger against someone who is seen as hip and new. The proper strategy against someone like Obama is EPIC amounts of sarcasm and humor, something McCain lacked woefully. Add to the mix that McCain is like a broken record when he speaks. We GET IT McCain, you are a maverick, and Joe the Plumber Joe the Plumber Joe the Plumber. John Kerry or Al Gore could have won against McCain, the guy runs an awful campaign, and is not interesting to listen to in the least.
muyoso on December 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Where is that blond blogger lady from Texas who used to tell us that McCain is the best thing since Adam, when I’d over, and over post during the primaries that “he’s spent, he’s tired”. I don’t see much of her here, lately, and wonder why.
Sorry that her name escapes me.
Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I’m a loser
I’m a loser
And I’m not what I appear to be
Of all the issues I have won or have lost
There is one issue I should never have come across
It was a issue about millions, my friends
I should have known it would be lettuce picking that got me in the end
I’m a loser
And I lost an el Presidency that was dear to me
I’m a loser
And I’m not what I appear to be
Although I talk and I act like I’ve been surging all around
Beneath this mask I am wearing a frown
My tears are falling like rain from the sky
Is it for my el Presidency and myself that I cry
I’m a loser
And I lost an el Presidency that was so dear to me
I’m a loser
And I’m not what I appear to be
What have I done to deserve such a fate
I realized my amnesty game was up but it was by then too late
And so it’s true, conniving comes before a fall
I’m telling you so that you won’t lose all
I’m a loser
And I lost an el Presidency that was dear to me
I’m a loser
And I’m not what I appear to be
MB4 on December 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM
W
T
F?!
he would be in …
an equivalent position to W in 2000 and he thinks they couldn’t function?!?!?
/just when i think john’s team can’t disappoint me any further after the fact …
Buckaroo on December 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Oh, McCain has that ability, but only against fellow Republicans.
ddrintn on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
When does the loser tell people what would not have worked?
joey24007 on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Run Dole against a young Clinton and lose.
Run Dole II against a young Obama and lose.
Wright?
profitsbeard on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
@ Buckaroo on December 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Remember, congress would be HEAVILY democratic, and they would all be UBER pissed at McCain. Not at all like Bush in 2000. That said, a completely stalled government would rule. Wish Bush was actually a conservative, we could have a trillion dollars less of debt right now.
muyoso on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Rightwingsparkle.
Spirit of 1776 on December 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
And to think we used to complain about Teh Fred not having the fire in the belly to become Prez.
HawaiiLwyr on December 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
That’s the kind of horse puckey that made McCain such a bad candidate. If those tapes had been played over and over again throughout the last three weeks of the campaign, McCain would have won the electoral and popular votes.
Buford Gooch on December 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Yeah, but McCain jumped at each and every chance to be on Leno and Letterman…and kissed Dave’s a$$ the whole time he was on the show while Letterman did nothing but denegrate McCain the entire campaign!!
120pages on December 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I remember that I wrote an email campaign saying that McCain urged us to “stand up and fight”
well, we did … he didn’t
Palin did though
Mark Salter will write a book on his “honor”
joey24007 on December 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM
@ ddrintn on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
He really doesn’t though. When he smiles and laughs he scares children, not something appealing when you are trying to appeal to people. And making sarcastic jokes about Obama would cut into McCains time reminding us he is a maverick and invoking the Joe the Plumber clause for the 200th time.
muyoso on December 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM
We’re farked from the left, to the right, and we deserve it. If you’re not yet, get used to it.
Over here, though, even if you’re April Orit, don’t blame the French. Blame the conservatives, the ‘independents’ and the formerly sane Democrats, including those who stayed home, or voted for Barr, or their goat.
I can never blame the liberal plankton banks. They deserve to be exploited all the time. What is the excuse of all the others? You wanted him, you got him,
ToyotaObama. Live with it.Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM
“muyoso on December 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM”
au contraire, if duh1 had been properly exposed his coattails would have been essentially nonexistent, and the present house/senate margins would be smaller …
/jmo …
Buckaroo on December 11, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Yes, Spirit. Thank you. That’s the lady. I wonder how she feels about it all.
It appears that McCain’s ‘honor’ needed him more than his country, in such terrible and impactful times. May he die with his honorable finger in
his rear endthe air.Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Given the overwhelming voter fraud in this Presidential
election,one really wonders if any strategy would’ve
been effective!
Given the full-attack-mode against Governor Sarah Palin
by the Marxist Socilaist Media(MSM),the secret stealth
news propaganda wing of Hopeys Ministry of dis-information!
With the ever helpful MSM news political foot-soldiers,
Charlie’Condesending’Gibson,and the Perky’I gotcha’Katie
Couric’s outstanding attempt at painting SarahCuda as a
religious zealot from the boondocks,the wilds,the sticks,
of the great State of Alaska!
I’m not sure really what Team McCain/Palin could of done!
I think,they did the best they could do,in light of the
media annoiting Team Obama as a Historical moment,as the
first African American President!!!
However,John McCain and Sarah Palin were putting AMERICA
FISRT as any American should,however it was more important
for the media lefty goons to worship at the Alter of the
New Socialist Liberal Democratic Party and put a Senator
Barack Obama in as ‘Their Guy’!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on December 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM
…isn’t he, well, sort of unable to function as a government now, thanks to your help, Mr. Pollster?
…and isn’t it telling that “pollster” and “pimp” both begin with the same letter?
…here’s a new idea:
1. Get a candidate who actually has some telegenic presence.
2. Get a candidate who actually stands for something.
3. Get a candidate who actually stands for the same thing that the party stands for.
4. Run that candidate.
…and, by the way, Mr. Pollster…have him, while campaigning, actually compare and contrast himself with his opposition…as in the fields of ethics, observation, judgment and devotion to the Constitution…and, instead of spending months walking on eggshells, actually go out and hit his opponent a couple of good whacks….
…if nothing else, Mr. Pollster, doomed to fail as that candidate would be with you on his team, it’d benefit the opponent by toughening him up….
…right now, it’s all been so easy for Obama…so very easy….
Puritan1648 on December 11, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Crap,thats FIRST,not FISRT!UGH!
canopfor on December 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM
5. Don’t have a former Fannie Mae lobbyist as your campaign manager when that issue FALLS RIGHT INTO YOUR LAP
joey24007 on December 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM
If that article is right and those tapes would not have made a difference with young people and Latinos, young people and Latinos are messed up and shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They’re clearly thinking with something other than their rationality.
That guy Wright is a moron of the first order, involved in an intellectualized racist circle jerk with the rest of his Black Liberation Theology morons. People that anti-empiricist should not be allowed in secular politics. It’s not that they’re religious per se, but their religious claim that Christianity derived from Africa and that Jesus was black goes against all empirical evidence, such as it is, for Jesus’ race and origin.
After reading the comments over there, all I have to say to Obama fans is that they need to “move on” that I’m not “moving on” and “get over it” that I’m not “over it”. I hate the importation of retarded slogans into political discourse.
venividivici on December 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM
If [McCain] had used that issue that way, you’d already be delegitimized as a president
What? If you win the majority of voters and electorals, you win, regardless of what those who didn’t vote for you might think. Bush won twice and his enemies legitimized him from day effin one.
More excuses from the biggest bunch of dimwits ever to run a campaign.
Bishop on December 11, 2008 at 10:38 PM
52% voted with “something other than their rationality”.
Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:38 PM
PIECE OF SH*T BUTTONS
If [McCain] had used that issue that way, you’d already be delegitimized as a president
What? If you win the majority of voters and electorals, you win, regardless of what those who didn’t vote for you might think. Bush won twice and his enemies legitimized him from day effin one.
More excuses from the biggest bunch of dimwits ever to run a campaign.
Bishop on December 11, 2008 at 10:39 PM
SHOOT THIS DOWN
It really looked like the country didn’t WANT The One.
McCain was not attractive on TV. His best debate was the last.
McCain pulled punches and refused to attack till it was too late.
The media hated him.
The economy melted down.
McCain was a candidate made for WAR as an issue and it faded.
Amazing that he did as well as he did!
IlikedAUH2O on December 11, 2008 at 10:41 PM
…true…but let’s not keep enumerating the failures of the McCain McMess…we’ll have to begin using exponents…#10 to the 23rd power “blah-blah”…and, as I’ve just demonstrated, my keyboard won’t cooperate….
…it’s four years in the woods looking high and low for an actual candidate…I’m almost resigned to it….
Puritan1648 on December 11, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Sell pro Obama parapharnalia on Cafepress or some such site, to use the fools. It’s the only way to be happy.
Believe in Capitalism! It’s still a country where you can.
Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM
They will know the gutter and they will know the stink of the street
For four years they will live in a festering heat
All the beauties who towered above McCain
Those who gave him the smack of their rod
Now they will get the gutter
They will get the judgment of God!
Vengeance victorious
These are the glorious days
I still blame the McFrenchies.
PercyB on December 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM
1. That wasn’t McCain. Obama beat him. Every time his teleprompter worked. Huckabee could read a prompter. I don’t want Huckabee as president.
2. It’s called “Country First,” maybe that rings a bell for you? No? Too bad. I remember that. It’s too bad you don’t.
3. Like voting with the party 80% of the time, yeah, that was McCain.
4. We ran the candidate that got the most republican votes in the primaries. That’s how it works. You don’t like it? Then petition for the rules to be changed so that next time our candidate won’t be what the republicans voted for, but the name that you, oh mighty political sage, gives us.
wise_man on December 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Are we going to bailout the oil companies if prices keep falling?
Hey, hey I’m just askin’.
BTW, the liberals are still blaming gas prices on deregulation and speculators.
Good thing The One busted all dem speculators and got prices down. With the help of deputy dawg, I guess!
IlikedAUH2O on December 11, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Right, he made it through the primaries, then the rest of us held our noses for myriad of reasons, and then where was that “country first”, where? His ‘honor’ and mandate numbers malarkey was more important, when the country needed him more than ever? Quit this excusing – make those who are to be accountable so. It is not unpatriotic to call fools, fools, from the left to the right, and the ones with the most ‘important’ of arses. Just look at the joke our Congress is, in both houses.
Entelechy on December 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I’m a Loser
FloatingRock on December 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM
FIFY
Goody2Shoes on December 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM
NoBordersJose on December 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM
ausgezeichnet
immer ausgezeichnet
What he asked of us, McCain should have demanded of himself in his failed campaign: He said we should fight, and we did
He fought a little, sort of…..then punted
Now the Carnival of Thugs & Sleaze has aleady begun, even before the Ringmaster has taken ofice
Janos Hunyadi on December 11, 2008 at 10:57 PM
did a drunk driving mexican kill your family?
wise_man on December 11, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Ironic, then, that the man is already and irrevocably delegitimized as President because of all the Chicago politics that have become public fodder this week. It’s only a matter of time that the president-select will have to order a whole fleet of busses up to throw the hordes of his staffers to the wolves over this scandal- starting with Emanuel.
highhopes on December 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a Congressman can.
Cheshire Cat on December 11, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Covering their asses.
peacenprosperity on December 11, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Congress has a kindly feeling for idiots and a compassion for them on account of personal experience and heredity.
Tav on December 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I’m glad that mccain lost. Now history will record that it was a democrat as the man on watch when America sank into the mud. The 2008-2014 depression will be hung on obama. The people will remember, and democrats will be radioactive for two generations. Then the cycle will repeat. But until then, we will be safe.
keep the change on December 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM
You missed the most important point. McCain deliberately ran as a moderate Democrat and not a Republican. It was masked in terms like “Maverick” but the intent was clear- get rid of the part of the GOP who are passionate about traditional conservative values and evangelical Christians and focus in on liberals who may not be as far to the left as the bastard-select.
McCain didn’t have the support of his base because he intentionally alienated them through his eight-year temper tantrum for losing the 2000 SC primary and his approach to this campaign. It was all about being a Democrat-lite choice as opposed to being an unapologetic Republican. The only reason why the cranky old bastard did as well as he did (in a race he should have won without a sweat) was the introduction of Sarah Palin to give the GOP base something to vote for.
highhopes on December 11, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Hey bastard-
You were out there slinging insults at anybody who dared suggest that McCain wasn’t the best choice for this election. You suggested that voicing criticism of McCain was essentially speaking against America. How dare you and your like-minded traitors show up on a thread like this since I hold you personally responsible for Obama’s victory by your utter idiocy and demands that we all put aside values and vote for a candidate based on political party.
That isn’t right no matter what and there will be a special place in hell for you amoral and unethical cowards. Obama hasn’t even been inaugurated and your actions are already showing themselves by the corruption bubbling to the surface in Ill. You have proven yourself a man without real values, conviction of purpose, or principle. Obama’s your guy and I will be spending the next 4-8 years reminding bastards like you that his election is all due to your lack of character and morality.
highhopes on December 11, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Did some moving men drop a piano on your head, turquia?
Murphy9 on December 11, 2008 at 11:17 PM
If he could be so excited about amnesty and faux campaign finance reform this delegitimizing crap was not even a stretch for him.
snaggletoothie on December 11, 2008 at 11:19 PM
You people are depressingly dreary and grim.
No wonder we lost. Lighten up. Focus on the next one. Find something (or someone) positive to support.
Professor Blather on December 11, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Wow, braniac, it was up to Obama or McCain. And you won, you got your wish, and teh hated evil captain amnesty didn’t win.
HOOOOORRRAYYYYYYYYYYY high hopes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wise_man on December 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM
A Barack Obama Christmas Carol
Hard to believe… 2 years…
Ugly on December 11, 2008 at 11:28 PM
you are one messed up, stupid mother f*cker.
Seek help.
wise_man on December 11, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Why? Because I dare call traitors like you out? You’re the sick bastard who helped Obama win. YOU OWN THAT. I’m just intent on making sure the world is reminded that traitors like you exist and it is people like you who killed America.
highhopes on December 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Temper, temper. You remember what I said about having to increase your electroshock treatments if you lost control again? Now you do not want that do you? Maybe you do as you seem to rather enjoy them a little too much.
Sigmund on December 11, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Friendship and respect do not unite people as much as a common hatred for something.
Tav on December 11, 2008 at 11:42 PM
McCain is the next guest on Letterman. Watch it, it will make you feel better, especially if he is the funny personable McCain and not the grumpy old man McCain.
angelat0763 on December 11, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Well, then there is the Palin vs Romney vs Huckabee vs Jindal thing again, with shouts of “Stupid Sarah”, “Romney the RINO” and “Jindal the Hopeless Dork”.
ddrintn on December 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Oh, and “Huckabee the Theocrat”. With proponents of all the above telling us how it’s hopeless unless their candidate gets the nod in ‘12.
ddrintn on December 11, 2008 at 11:50 PM
The whole campaign was totally fubar from McCain and senior staff on down. There were bright spots (the ‘Cuda for example) that could have turned the campaign, but they somehow managed to screw even those up.
meltenn on December 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM
He lost. Who cares at this point? heh.
Dritanian on December 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM
‘lotta trolls in the woods
Ugly on December 11, 2008 at 11:56 PM
He was great last time on Letterman.
Letterman, “So these Palin leaks are brutal. She sounds like a total idiot. Hard to understand why you would pick her as VP.”
McCain, “Hey, things happen. It’s politics.”
McCain – courage in the face of adversity.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM
That’s not the exact transcript, is it?
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 12:11 AM
No, sorry I should have used ‘ instead of “. But it’s pretty damn close. Letterman repeated all the slurs and set up McCain to address them (or deny or repudiate, etc). Mac just went for the cheap way out. Didn’t deny the slurs or question their validity, just said that happens in politics. And said he wasn’t responsible for what every staffer said since there were many he never me, etc – that sort of weak gruel.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM
No, but that’s pretty much verbatim from his Leno visit the week after the election isn’t it?
meltenn on December 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM
What is this pointless drivel?
Jaibones on December 12, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I see we are all still blaming that fella from Arizona instead of the fella in the mirror.
Limerick on December 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Next time if you want to send me your campaign contributions and put me in charge of the strategy, I’d be happy to blame this fella in my mirror during the autopsy.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Nah. I’m done with the $ stops there stuff. We are the party. The party chose Mac. Mac lost.
Plain, pure, simple.
This civil war the Reps are in is welcome (to me). I’m done with the rah-rah-sis-boom-bah stuff. They either have a plan or they don’t. Any candidate who says they have a plan better be prepared to chisel it in stone or this Texan’s wallet stays in his back pocket.
Limerick on December 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM
McCain lost this election all by himself. He performed worse in the debates than Bob Dole did against Clinton. McCain couldn’t articulate any economic message at all. We were in the middle of an economic meltdown, and the Republican candidate couldn’t speak coherently about the economy. Instead he put us all to sleep with heroic tales of how he saved the American taxpayer from $3 million earmarks for museum projectors. When he was asked a softball question about what the economic advisers he would surround himself with, the only name he could come up with was Meg Whitman. Now, Whitman is a smart lady, but she’s not exactly a Milton Friedman! McCain made no sense in those debates. He got a vote of no confidence from the American people.
Unfortunately most Americans couldn’t see through Obama’s rhetoric. I knew he was full of crap, as did most of the people here, but the average American bought it all, and McCain never called Obama out on his nonsensical economic plan.
Four days before the election, Palin gave an interview with Greta Van Susteren in which she was asked to give the reason for why people shouldn’t vote for Obama. She said:
Why couldn’t McCain articulate that message? And why in the world did his staff hide from the media the one person on the ticket who could articulate the message? I think the focus on Palin was in part due to a subconscious assumption that she was the voice of the ticket because she was the only one really making the case. But she wasn’t the one calling the shots. McCain was, and McCain failed.
McCain lost this election all on his own, and, pardon me for saying this, he deserved to lose. Unfortunately, the country does not deserve to suffer under Obama.
We deserved better.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Yeah, you’re right. I’m just disappointed. I don’t think the product matched the packaging…I mean ’stand up and fight’ had me juiced, but in a few short weeks I felt like that A-A radio guy at the McCain rally who was imploring McCain to fight. But now that’s my problem, not his:)
Agree with 2nd part too.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2008 at 12:44 AM
He refused to stand up for her though she has repeatedly said what a great man he is. Disgusting and typical. She’s a class act, and he’s classless. I used to think it was unfair to mention the way he treated his first wife. I’m beginning to think it’s fair game now.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 12:44 AM
As disappointed as you are you can take heart in the fact that the Obama years will be the end of the Democratic Party. Yes, to any blue trolls out there in HA-Land, I believe you are Darwin’s next victim. Unless we are careful we might be on that list too.
Each of us must look at the fella in the mirror and figure out what we need to do right instead of all this mamby-pampy Johnny-did-it finger pointing.
Limerick on December 12, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Hey now Entelchy, I wasn’t running and I blasted McCain with all barrels through the primaries. I voted for Romney and then Palin, f**k McCain and the donkey he tried to ride.
goat on December 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM
“highhopes on December 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM”
hey douche, i really would look forward to an actual coherent explanation of how someone who fought and worked very hard for the GUY WHO WAS THE ONLY OTHER VIABLE CHOICE ON THE BALLOT OTHER THAN DUH1 is “responsible” for duh1 winning.
/not gonna hold my breath tho …
Buckaroo on December 12, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Think about it…we picked perhaps the worst candidate in history, and they picked the best candidate since JFK, and we still almost won.
That is how weak their side is, their strongest against our weakest…and we came just a few percent away from victory…it should have been a blow out.
right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Disappointing comments from the McCain camp. Basically, they gave up on fighting back.
McCain (obviously) could not afford to just talk about the issues that polled well. He needed to talk about the issues that mattered, and why they mattered, and why you should then vote for him.
Sound too hard. George W. Bush was able to do it. Which is why McCain lost to Bush in the first place. Bush is a better campaigner.
That’s right. Bush is better able to articulate what he believes and why it matters than McCain is. Even with his low approval rating, Bush could have won this election over Obama, and McCain … couldn’t.
theregoestheneighborhood on December 12, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Amen.
BuckeyeSam on December 12, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Bill McInturff
May he never work another Republican campaign again.
Bill C on December 12, 2008 at 2:09 AM
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The primaries were set up to elect the most liberal Republican. Winner take all means that the conservatives split the vote and McVain won. The Democrats had a proportional representation primary system and they got a candidate who represents the majority of the Democrat party. We got a squishy RINO.
Bill C on December 12, 2008 at 2:18 AM
I was one who worked for McCain, not only on this site, but in real life as well, which, I suppose, makes me a “traitor.” I have to ask, however: traitor to whom or what? My country (I served 8 years in the Marines)? The party? Some nebulous sense of “conservative values,” the final arbiters and custodians of which are posters on HotAir? Clearly one of you is using words, “traitor” in this case, whose meanings are unclear to you.
Listen, politics is for grownups. There was little or no chance that any Republican was going to win this election. A study of history alone would have made that clear, in spite of our belief in our fantasy candidate–Huckabee, Thompson, Romney. When my older brother, a 20-year Marine officer with combat service dating back into the 80s against Libya, began speaking of voting for Obama–and I dare you to call my brother a “traitor”–I knew we were in trouble. As someone already posted, it was a miracle McCain did as well as he did. Hillary would have wiped the floor with him.
And after the woulda-shoulda-coulda of the primaries and the embarrassingly childish use of the passive-aggressive FIFY on sites like this one, the fact remains that there were two candidates on the ballot, Barack Obama and John McCain. And some have been called “traitors” here for voting for McCain, and that vote has somehow been blamed for Obama’s victory. Tell me how a vote for Bob Barr or a non-vote had less to do with Obama’s victory than a vote for McCain. That makes absolutely no sense, and is the product of a childish mind who simply cannot accept that his party lost. Are you still angry over your Little League defeats as well, and still blame the poor kid who struck out when he was 9 years old, in the bottom of the ninth, in a game you were losing 52-0 anyway?
mikeinamman on December 12, 2008 at 4:28 AM
Take your own advice. And while you’re at it, find another blog. You aren’t welcome here. You spew more hate than the lib trolls.
fossten on December 12, 2008 at 6:33 AM
I had to vote for McCain as the lesser of two evils or the greater of two lessers. However every time McCain had to make a comment about Obama’s fitness, he said Obama was fit. Every time McCain had to make a comment about qualifications, etc, or about whether such and such dems (Pelousi Reid) were ok, he said they were ok and were his friends. I mean, he talked up the dems more than he talked up the republicans. Still he was what we had. Now we have pres elect elect, that’s not the hot rod i thought i knew, thirty days away from inauguration. Better to govern without a mandate and to build that mandate up with hard work, than to work in the back alleys again. This shows McCain lacked the ‘eye of the tiger’. Mr. “Nice Guy” finishes last and so did a disservice to this country.
eaglewingz08 on December 12, 2008 at 7:01 AM
Anyone who thinks voting for McCain in the general was traitorous is simply ignorant. Conversely in the primary, a vote for McCain was uninformed and counter-productive to conservatism. I appreciate your service both in the Marine Corps and as a McCain supporter….but McCain is not and never has been (nor will he ever be) a conservative. His philosophy on politics is one of appeasement and not leadership. The reason we got McCain was because the conservative vote was split between Huckabigot and Romney.
Any honest person will admit that McCain viewed the nomination as his vindication for the drubbing Bush gave him in 2000 primary. He wasn’t interested in winning the general at all costs to save this country from a socialist and seemed more focused on losing with honor so he could give the mother of all concession speeches.
McCain, as I predicted when he was building support in the primaries, would lose to ObaMcCarthy because he was not a conservative. He, as a democrat lite, was too old and too much like Bush to give the country a viable alternative to a clean articulate vibrant black dude.
You hitched your wagon to a burnt out star and in the general the rest of us jumped on with you because a burned out star is better than a black hole (no pun/racism intended).
csdeven on December 12, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Couldn’t function?
I guess, we’ll get to see how well the presidency “functions” with a corrupt Chicago politician running it, won’t we.
heh, heh, heh
franksalterego on December 12, 2008 at 9:11 AM
Exactly, my frustration with McCain is ignighted with a shot of steroids when I consider the fact that the same man who fought one of the dirtiest primary fights I’ve ever seen, happily smearing members of his own party later believed it was undignified of him to fight with anything less than two hands tied behind his back.
It was as if he was purposely trying to sink the Republicans this year.
Zetterson on December 12, 2008 at 9:35 AM
That is the dumbest line of thinking I’ve heard all day. It’s still early though so we’ll see what happens later.
t.ferg on December 12, 2008 at 9:46 AM
My 2 cents:
I was one of the handful of people on this forum who strongly questioned the wisdom of having McCain as our candidate, and for that I was roundly berated for “not being patriotic” and had my conservative bona fides questioned for not supporting this sh*t sandwich of a candidate.
In spite of there being two wars ongoing (one largely unpopular), a sitting president with the lowest approval rating in history, and the chance to help make history and vote in the first black president, Obama didn’t win in a landslide, and I question the sanity of people who call a 53% to 47% margin a “mandate”. On Nov. 4th, people held their nose and voted for what they thought was the better of two lousy candidates. If we had ran Romney instead, we would have won the election – particularly after the financial meltdown on Sept. 9th. But people didn’t want to go with Romney because they thought he was a “flip-flopper”. Romney’s political instincts were honed by pragmatism – first as a successful businessman and secondly as a Republican governor in a Blue state. McCain was (and is) a pure opportunist; he’ll say and do whatever is in his own selfish political interest (he’s a “maverick”) and has no qualms of sticking it to his own party. It’s no wonder he’s such good friends with Lieberman – he’s the mirror image of him.
Dagnar on December 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Perhaps deep down a lot of Republicans just did not want the Presidency for a 3rd term in a row.
albill on December 12, 2008 at 10:18 AM
…first, “country first” is a ringing slogan…but, running a campaign which limited its own ability to campaign — the oft-mentioned “bringing a knife to a gunfight” — was, to quote myself, a species of treason…how is the country now better off?
Parties exist to win elections and then govern according to a commonly-held set of values. Firstly, he didn’t and doesn’t share the values of either his party or its majority supporters. Secondly…well…he lost. After at least one excellent and savvy decision — Palin — he allowed himself to be talked into neutralizing her, and then into being so “decent” that he allowed an empty suit get elected. Well done.
Everybody salutes his service. Everybody trips over themselves to salute Powell’s service. Neither is of much bloody use now, so let’s drop the salutes and get on with the search for a viable, ideologically flexible but solidly rooted candidate….
…you seem to talk like a party man…what’s the party done for us…lately…?
Puritan1648 on December 12, 2008 at 3:28 PM
…and here we have demonstrated why the Republicans lost…the belief, put forward daily by the establishment media, that the Republicans were doomed…opposing an empty suit with more skeletons in his closet than Jeff Dahmer, and they lost….
…they talked themselves out of victory…once again, allow me to point out: a species of treason….
…don’t like it? Sorry…just a little more history for you….
Puritan1648 on December 12, 2008 at 3:32 PM
…gesundheit!
…a little honey and lemon in hot whiskey should clear that right up….
…a little honey and lemon in a lot of whiskey, hot or cold, and you won’t care….
Puritan1648 on December 12, 2008 at 3:34 PM
drop dead
wise_man on December 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Rove said on Fox news about the ads on Wright was that they had to be used early in the campaign and focused on a theme which we all get a glimpse of now with Blago & Co. McCain’s campaign message was never focused, always rambling on about earmarks. No one gave a rip about earmarks cause they build stuff in their hometown etc. Anyway it’s fun to see a Dem trying to cover his/her ass for a while-just hope our country doesn’t suffer.
Herb on December 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM
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