Powell: Palin needs to stop polarizing the party by talking up small-town values
posted at 6:39 pm on December 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Oh, I did it again…
right2bright on December 12, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Palin makes suburban women flee the GOP. They are a critical block.
Bush won the suburban women.
Palin is a disaster for the pro life community. Because of Palin we now have a marxist who will stack the supreme court.
Palin is such a disaster for the pro life community because she switches moderate voters from our side to even support an Obama.
Obama could have never won the independent vote by 60-40 without Palin.
I don’t get how these so called true conservatives can love palin.
If you cared about the Supreme Court Palin would be the last person you should want.
Palin on the ticket allows someone like Obama to dominate the middle.
McCain/Pawlenty picking Roberts type judges for the supreme court wasn’t good enough.
We needed Palin to alienate the middle and lose the election to a marxist.
I am not a huffington Post blogger. I can’t stand those commies.
I am ticked at Palin’s base for not seeing how destructive she is.
I am ticked at Palin’s base for not seeing how the middle which you need to win treats her like the plague and we end up with a marxist like Obama.
There is some myth that you don’t need the middle to win that if Palin’s voters just all come out you get over 50 percent. That is wrong.
Palin is a disaster and because of her Obama will now stack the supreme court with 6 far left wing justices.
Palin is the worst thing that ever happened to the republican party. Because of her Obama dominated the middle and won the presidency and now gets to pick marxist justices.
Palin has caused great damage to this country.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Colin Powell is not a Conservative! I use to admire him. But, he is a traitor. Then he backs a Mad Man to Run our Country. He sure doesn’t talk like a Conservative. And how dare him attack Palin! Go home Powell and stay there.
sheebe on December 12, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Rush is a disaster too.
There is a difference between border security and over the top BS.
Rush making fun of Michael J Fox. Real brilliant there Rush thanks for costing us that senate seat of a good man Jim Talent.
People like Sensennbrenner and Tancredo are rabble rousers that do incredible harm.
They hurt their cause which is a noble one dealing with border security.
Bills calling for felonies for illegals are bad policy and bad politics. Why have felonies which will cost a lot to jail them instead of deporting them. Also it galvanized the la raza crowd. La Raza was able to register millions of new voters.
These english first bills do nothing to help border security.
Tancredo calling Miami a third world city is way over the top and does nothing to help.
Focus on building the fence and forcing employers to fire illegals.
This over the top from Limbaugh, Tancredo, Sensennbrenner only benefits the far left.
Rush Limbaugh is why Jim Talent is no longer a senator. He is a disaster and has lead us off a cliff.
Limbaugh still thinks this is the 90’s.
Limbaugh said we won with this rhetoric in the 90’s.
Earth to Rush in 1990 the white vote was 90 percent and now it is 74 percent and thanks to you making fun of Michael J Fox there is one more vote for the dream act that Obama will now sign into law.
Rush Limbaugh is a bad figure to represent the party. He is way too polorazing for the middle.
That still gives Powell no right to talk about We being the GOP.
Powell backed the most liberal senator Obama and stabbed McCain in the back who he knew for 25 years.
Powell now says don’t ask don’t tell should be revisited. He has gone to the dark side. Powell was worried about more conservatives on the supreme court. He is a liberal. He said he was worried about two more conservative picks to the supreme court.
It was a bad strategy of Limbaugh though to say Powell only backed Obama because he was black.
That turns off the middle. Even if there is truth to it the goal is to win the election and to do that you can’t alienate the middle.
Limbaugh has turned off moderate voters. In Missiouri Talent sunk in the st louis suburbs after Limbaugh made fun of Michael J Fox.
Limbaugh now has terrible political instincts. Along with loving Palin.
We need a candidate that can win over conservatives and moderates. Palin can’t do that. She is a disaster who hands elections to the democrats.
Palin and Bachmann hurt norm coleman in minnesota. Palin hurt gordon smith in oregon.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 1:56 AM
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 1:56 AM
This is all true, but I have to say, as a diehard Palin critic, you’re even starting to annoy me with the cut-and-paste jobs. Not a good sign.
RightOFLeft on December 12, 2008 at 1:59 AM
Seriously, you’re killing me. Did you miss high school composition or what? Paragraphs. Use paragraphs.
meltenn on December 12, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Hey Colin: Go F*ck yourself.
Hey ryandan: Nice reality you live in. What color is the sky there?
Greg Q on December 12, 2008 at 2:01 AM
To right before the election there were surveys which asked if Palin wasn’t the running mate how would you vote.
McCain did much better in polls that asked if palin wasn’t on the ticket.
CNN had a poll of Obama/Biden up 53-46 against McCain/Palin and it being tied without Palin.
McCain in the poll was tied with moderates without Palin on the ticket and lost them by 20 percent with Palin on the ticket.
She was an unmitigated disaster. 10 percent said she was ready. Great pick there. It took a pick like Palin to give Obama the presidency.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Palin also brought McCain’s age to the forefront.
With another VP McCain’s age would have been far less of an issue.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 2:03 AM
I give up. Your English teacher should be ashamed. There are some great adult education classes out there. Please take one then come back and put those newly learned grammar skills to use.
meltenn on December 12, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Right, because nothing unites the party like big-city values….
sulla on December 12, 2008 at 2:14 AM
It’s clear, because of Sarah Palin, ryandan can’t figure out the difference between a sentence and a paragraph.
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 2:17 AM
Sulla, small town values are obviously better. But part of winning is not alienating voters. 80 percent of voters live outside of small towns. The goal is to win so you don’t end up with CIC Obama. The small town rhetoric alienates swing voters in metro areas. It doesn’t help. If the goal is to win the suburbs in swing states to get 270 electoral votes then Palin’s small town rhetoric is bad because it drives away swing voters in cities and suburbs that you need to win.
The so called conservative base is tone deaf in appealing to moderate voters. It isn’t that we should like the politics of moderate voters but the goal is to win. Winning means winning moderate voters and you can’t win moderate voters with Palin alienating them.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Gen. Powell has forgotten more about every subject one could imagine than Palin knows. He’s an intellectual heavyweight and a genuine American hero. She’s a vacuous phony. It’s quite damning to the conservative movement that the dumbsh*t wing of the conservative movement is so heavily represented here at HotAir. All you Palin fanboys are really quite embarrassing.
dakine on December 12, 2008 at 2:22 AM
Elite RINOs are such models of leadership and inspiration — not to mention good for the nation. They are the darlings of liberals, moderates, and conservatives everywhere. Feel the glow of unpolarized togetherness. That’s why Bush I was a two-term president and BJ was never more than a stain on Arkansas. No, wait…
Feedie on December 12, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Feedie, we are all dumber for having read that last ridiculous post of yours.
dakine on December 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM
Did Powell support Ted Stevens and now he’s angry at Palin?
Then he supports Obama..
the_nile on December 12, 2008 at 2:32 AM
George Bush’s 2004 Popular Vote 62,040,610
John McCain’s 2008 Popular Vote 59,923,677
about a 2 million margin within Bush’s 2004 Popular vote..
Consider this…..
George Bush has been in office for 8 years with the lowest approval rating for the presidency ever I might add…. and he happens to be a republican as well..
Our Economy tanks in the middle of the election and McCain’s numbers start to slip…
Mccain tells the American people that the economy is fundamentally sound and Ofraud and uses it as a campaign pitch the rest of the way…
McCain goes to Washington and announces that he was unsure if he would debate Ofraud on Monday…When he gets there congress democrats call him a distraction and cement their “erratic” narratives in describing poor old John…
McCain then votes for the bailout… Which was a very popular move among Americans..(note the sarcasm).
Then we have McCain
staffersidiots who can’t kept their mouths shut saying things like ” If we (McCain Campaign)don’t shift the discussion from the economy we are going to lose this race)Ofraud again kills him on it.Note the economy was the top issue on voters minds… Mr I don’t know anything about economy sure have kept his mouth shut as well.
Add extreme media bias….
Add the fact that Ofraud had vastly much more money and resources than McCain… Let me stress this again… VASTLY.MORE MONEY.. HE KILLED HIM..
Being Black and being recognized as a cult figure amongst young voters doesn’t hurt either.
Promising free health care doesn’t hurt either especially during these times… folks like there handouts.
Using the internet for grassroots activities doesn’t hurt either…too bad McCain and his staffers didn’t think technology was all that important in 2008….
Low information voters don’t consider an old man like John McCain to portray change when his going up against multicultural historic fresh face Ofraud.
never mind all this
nope, Governor Palin ruined what was viewed among many as a GOP year. The stars were aligned for us and Governor Palin ruined our chances… With her right wing views no one was going to vote for our ticket.. never mind that 70 percent of African Americans who voted for obama voted for prop 8…50 percent of Hispanics voted for prop 8…
An Era of Hate on December 12, 2008 at 2:37 AM
Suburban women where? No state in particular. McCain lost OH by 1 pt, FL by 4 pts and NC by 1 pt. The GOP hasn’t won PA in 20 yrs. OK, some suburb somewhere according to _________.
“Bush won the suburban women.” Weren’t we running against him this year?
Obama is a Marxist. That’s Sarah Palin’s fault. Not McCain’s.
You know who the “moderates” were this year? The ones who showed up to vote? Blacks, Hispanics and 20 YOs were the “moderates.” Obama won with new voters, though fewer people showed up too vote than in 2004.
Then Obama supposedly won because of Palin. Though he had been declared the winner by the media for 2 years, and John McCain fell apart during the financial crisis.
Douchebag here doesn’t understand why conservatives approve of Sarah Palin.
He prefers Pawlenty, who not only lost his own state for us but nearly got Franken elected.
He keeps going on about Marxists like McCain ever brought up Ayers or Wright or explained his tax or health plan.
Even though he is not a Huff Po douchebag, he quotes them.
He hates the people who showed up to vote for McCain / Palin, and he just had to show up and say so tonight.
The GOP needs better-looking, cooler more diverse liars. Otherwise you lose, and winning is everything. It is so important that you must start planning for 2012 four years ahead, and especially kneecap the former running mate for the worst Republican nominee ever, so bad that even his own mother said she’d hold her nose and vote for him.
I can’t even respond to this idiot’s other stuff, because it doesn’t even pretend to be grounded in fact at one point.
He starts writing about Rush Limbaugh and Tancredo. And Bachmann and Coleman.
This guy is so stupid he bought a solar-powered flashlight.
So stupid blah blah blah. He seems hellbent on posting his stupidity over and over.
This is what happens when children eat lead paint. I hope this idiot is sterile.
chunderroad on December 12, 2008 at 2:38 AM
Colin Powell jokes…
Q: What’s the last thing Colin Powell’s wife says to him before he leaves for work each day?
A: Honey! Don’t forget your spine!!
George Bush meets with the Queen of England. He asks her, “Your Majesty, how do you run such an efficient government? Are there any tips you can give to me?”
“Well,” says the Queen, “the most important thing is to surround yourself with intelligent people.”
“Bush frowns. “But how do I know the people around me are really intelligent?”
The Queen takes a sip of tea. “Oh, that’s easy. You just ask them to answer an intelligent riddle. ” The Queen pushes a button on her intercom. “Please send Tony Blair in here, would you?”
Tony Blair walks into the room. “Yes, my Queen?”
The Queen smiles. “Answer me this, please, Tony. Your mother and father have a child. It is not your brother and it is not your sister. Who is it?”
Without pausing for a moment, Tony Blair answers, “That would be me.”
“Yes! Very good,” says the Queen.
Bush goes back home to ask Dick Cheney, his vice president, the same question.
“Dick, answer this for me. Your mother and your father have a child. It’s not your brother and it’s not your sister. Who is it?”
“I’m not sure,” says Cheney, ” let me get back to you on that one.”
Cheney goes to his advisors and asks every one, but none can give him an answer. Finally, he ends up in the men’s room and recognizes Colin Powell’s shoes in the next stall. Cheney shouts, “Colin! Can you answer this for me? Your mother and father have a child and it’s not your brother or your sister. Who is it?”
Colin Powell yells back, “That’s easy. It’s me!”
Cheney smiles, and says, “Thanks!” Then, Cheney goes back to speak with Bush. “Say, I did some research and I have the answer to that riddle. It’s Colin Powell.”
Bush gets up, stomps over to Cheney and angrily yells into his face, “No, you idiot! It’s Tony Blair!”
chunderroad on December 12, 2008 at 2:45 AM
President Bush and Colin Powell are sitting in a bar.
A guy walks in and asks the barman, “Isn’t that Bush and Powell sitting over there?”
The barman says, “Yep, that’s them.”
So the guy walks over and says, “Wow, this is a real honor. What are you guys doing in here?”
Bush says, “We’re planning WW III.”
And the guy says, “Really? What’s going to happen?”
Bush says, “Well, we’re going to kill 140 million Iraqis this time and one blonde with big tits.”
The guy exclaimed, “A blonde with big tits?” “Why kill a blonde with big tits?”
Bush turns to Powell and says, “See, I told you no one would worry about the 140 million Iraqis!”
chunderroad on December 12, 2008 at 2:52 AM
Obama’s race did hurt him in appalachia. If it was Clinton it would have been a double digit loss.
Palin killed McCain with the middle.
Tancredo, Sensennbrenner and the immigration debate killed McCain with hispanics.
Economy and Bush’s 25 percent approval and 5 percent right rack numbers were brutal.
But the biggest drag according to the exit polls was Palin.
Palin was a bigger drag on McCain than Bush and that is saying something with the damage Bush has caused.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 2:52 AM
I like how instead of noticing ryan’s point (that Palin turns off non-hardcore right wingers) you prefer to attack his English.
Way to be grown up you little brats.
A Axe on December 12, 2008 at 2:54 AM
You might believe that if you keep citing CBS New York Times and NBC Polls lol….
An Era of Hate on December 12, 2008 at 2:56 AM
The moderates are the white voters in suburbs who voted for Bush and left McCain because of Palin.
Look at the richmond virginia suburbs.
Look at raleigh suburbs. These are white areas where there was a dramatic drop.
Bush won 67 percent of whites in virginia. McCain won under 60 percent.
McCain lost white moderates that voted for Bush and were going to vote for McCain before Palin. White moderates who were Clinton supporters and were going to vote for McCain until the Palin pick.
McCain was leading Obama throughout the summer with independents.
A white suburban county outside of indianapolis. Kerry got 25 percent while Obama got 38 percent.
Moderate voters avoid Palin like the plague.
Palin did the most damage in Florida. That was ground zero of the Palin effect. McCain would have won that state easily without Palin.
Palin was a disaster for voters who love animals. We need a second amendment supporter without the polor bears, wolves baggage.
Palin also lost many conservative voters who thought she was a joke. Many conservatives outside of the Huckabee base looked at Palin as a joke and stayed home.
She was a disaster on so many levels. She became the issue not Obama.
The worst part is her supporters are so politically tone deaf and actually think she is a strong national ticket. Not only isn’t she strong she is a disaster.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 3:00 AM
Wide stance?
Feedie on December 12, 2008 at 3:00 AM
You forgot to add that Palin causes global warming.
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 3:00 AM
Colin Powell criticizes Sarah Palin. 5 pages of posts, most of them the usual PBD’s (Palin Bashing Drones. You know there’s so many of them, we might as well have a three-letter-acronym to refer to them).
Colin Powell, whatever else he is, isn’t much of a conservative. The fact that he criticizes Sarah Palin is too predictable to be interesting.
theregoestheneighborhood on December 12, 2008 at 3:05 AM
Look if Sarah Palin was the worst VP candidate in the history of the universe and you say that she cost McCain the election or handed the Obama the election then the reaction among the Republican base should have been to treat her as an anathema, a curse to the party, and basically told her to get back to Alaska where she belonged and at the same time congratulate McCain for putting up a good fight and trying his best and basically rallying around him. Instead the reverse occured: McCain was shunned immediately, although most members of the base don’t blame him solely for the defeat but attribute much of the blame to the financial meltdown and the hatred of George Bush. However some members say he should have run as a conservative, mounted a stronger campaign and called out the Democrats for the sub-prime mortgage mess and not voted for the bailout. The greater majority of the party believe that Sarah kept Obama from getting a landslide (McCain did win 22 states and did garner almost 60m votes). And the proof that most people in the party embraced her after the election is that she had a 91% approval rating from GOP members and 64% three days later would have voted for her for President in 2012 (Rasmussen): other polls by CNN and newbusters.com confirm her popularity within the party. An argument thus can be made Sarah is the most popular Republican in the party right now and I have suggested that she is now the de facto leader of the party until somebody else emerges. Now if you folks (trolls) think that Sarah is as damaged as you make her out to be what do you attribute as the reason for her current popularity?: the base is stupid and misguided or that the polls are wrong. What I do know is the tale you tell and the current reality do not jibe and it’s one of the grossest examples of cognitive dissonance that I have ever seen.
technopeasant on December 12, 2008 at 3:05 AM
tech,
the damage that someone like Palin does is she takes votes from McCain to Obama.
Losing the middle is twice as worse as losing the base.
If you lose the base they aren’t going to vote for Obama.
If you lose the middle you have all these voters that then vote for Obama.
Reagan dominated the middle and Reagan democrats.
Palin has no large appeal. She shrinks the vote. Worst is she takes votes away for you and adds them to Obama. There were millions of reluctant Obama voters who would have been on the other side without Palin.
A lot of Palin support also is from the deep south where Obama had no chance anyway.
Her perception as a strong social conservative doesn’t play well in western states like colorado. It doesn’t play well in a state like new hampshire. It doesn’t play well in the northern virginia suburbs. It doesn’t play well where you need to do well.
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 3:12 AM
Powell? A moderate linguini-spine?! Say it ain’t so!
Seriously, Colin, you’re not fooling anyone. We’ve known for a long time that you’re certainly not a right-wing guy. The direction this country needs to move is rightward and it was great to see a person like Palin stand up for the traditional values this country was founded upon… something I would expect someone of your stature to understand. Sadly, louts like yourself do nothing but preach against supposed “polarization” and are nothing more than spineless, washed-out insiders desperately seeking some sort of a legacy with the leftward media elites.
Good riddance.
Jockolantern on December 12, 2008 at 3:19 AM
How’s that babelfish translator working out for you?
As amusing as I find your ticker tape of useless and unsubstantiated non sequiturs, you might want to cite your sources from now on.
Palin was not a drag on the ticket — far from it. If it were not for Palin, McCain would have lost much worse than he did. The only time McCain was leading in the polls was after he named Palin to the ticket. He fell in the polls after the financial meltdown and his subsequent inability to articulate a clear economic plan. It was the economy, stupid.
In times of economic uncertainty “low information” swing voters (who tend to tilt more socially conservative — as was evinced by the Obama voters who supported Prop 8) will vote for Democrats because they fear that they will be the next ones out of jobs and in need of big government’s help. In times of economic prosperity, these same voters tend to vote Republican because they want to keep more of what they earn and ride the entrepreneurial wave of prosperity.
Reagan’s genius was his ability to convince these voters in 1980 to take a risk and vote for him instead of the Democrat big government candidate in a time of economic hardship.
If our economy is as bad in four years as it is now, and if Obama is as mired in corrupt politics as he is now after only four weeks as PEOTUS, then Republicans need not fear 2012.
I hope this is understandable for you. Just cut and paste it into babelfish for the translation from English to whatever your native language is.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 3:22 AM
A whole new shipment of trolls.
snaggletoothie on December 12, 2008 at 3:22 AM
Palin was brought on board to hold and rally the base; McCain’s job was to hold the independents and moderates and Hispanics. According to those parameters Sarah did her job; McCain didn’t do his. By the way 20% of conservatives voted for Obama; maybe Palin was too liberal for them or perhaps McCain was too moderate for them and perhaps damaged from his previous positions on campaign finance and immigration. The consensus is that the latter was the case but knowing your stand on Sarah you’ll probably propound that Sarah not only drove away the moderates but she also drove away conservatives and by the way you don’t mention the financial meltdown-even Reagan couldn’t have won this election for the GOP; too many people were pissed off losing their life savings and with the Bush Administration; thus they took their displeasure on the McCain campaign by voting for Obama. The economy, not politics decided this election; who the GOP put forward as standard-bearers was virutally irrelevant.
technopeasant on December 12, 2008 at 3:23 AM
Brilliant as always, my friend. Bravo!
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 3:27 AM
I miss the early days of HotAir when nearly all of the posters had IQs in the triple digit range.
I hope Michelle is making LOTS of money off this place, because, otherwise, it is a waste of electrons. Might as well just merge with Huffpo or KOS to get the current level of brainpower.
LegendHasIt on December 12, 2008 at 3:30 AM
As I noted earlier, I’m really grateful for his efforts in convincing us that we had rock solid proof that Saddam’s WMD program presented an imminent threat to our national security and required an invasion that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. Our great-grandchildren will be stuck with the bill for this one. And our country is in the worst economic shape since the Great Depression due to our inability to support big government at home and two wars abroad.
It’s “intellectual heavyweights” like Powell who got us into this mess, but you want to diss the common sense hockey mom reformer from the Last Frontier.
Kind of reminds me of the “intellectual heavyweights” who got us into Vietnam and gave us double digit unemployment and inflation in the 70s. They were all Harvard and Yale men. It took a dummy with a degree from Eureka College to turn things around.
They said the same sort of ridiculous things about him as Powell is saying about Palin.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 3:41 AM
Powell is a hand-wringing bureaucrat, a typical liberal (he certainly isn’t a conservative) who worries about world opinion and who, for all intents and purposes, walked out on his country in a time of crisis. His views are both meritless and inconsequential.
beachgirlusa on December 12, 2008 at 3:45 AM
It’s a spammer, mel. Pay it no mind.
Note to Colon Powell: You’re dead to us. Go play with all your new friends on the left now, the ones that have wanted you charged with war crimes since 2003, and keep your nose out of the party you’ve been shanking ever since leaving the State Department.
Seems we did a lot better without you calling yourself a Republican than we have since you pretended to be one.
SuperCool on December 12, 2008 at 4:01 AM
So your saying that I should forgo my values and honor and support something I don’t actually support for the purpose of the goal? Seems to me that goes directly against the very purpose of having values and is in fact indicative of how we ended up with Obama to begin with!
Ganryu on December 12, 2008 at 4:13 AM
= Black man rage against the popularity of a white woman.
That makes as much sense as anything Powell said in that article.
S on December 12, 2008 at 4:17 AM
ryandan is trying very hard to be all of us. The only problem is that we are not morons … except for ryandan.
SilentWatcher on December 12, 2008 at 4:19 AM
Colin lied , people died..
the_nile on December 12, 2008 at 4:21 AM
ryandan
Geeees, where do I start?
are you really that stupid?
1sttofight on December 12, 2008 at 4:34 AM
Powell is the Jimmy Carter of the Bush administration. A complete political failure who is now spending the rest of his days making outrageously ignorant statements that he thinks are enlightened.
Go away Powell……you have now destroyed any political credibility you ever had. You are the poster boy for military leaders who should have followed MacArthur’s advice.
“The world has turned over many times since I took the oath at West Point, and the hopes and dreams have all since vanished, but I still remember the refrain of one of the most popular barracks ballads of that day which proclaimed most proudly that old soldiers never die; they just fade away. And like the old soldier of that ballad, I now close my military career and just fade away, an old soldier who tried to do his duty as God gave him the light to see that duty.
Goodbye.”
csdeven on December 12, 2008 at 4:49 AM
RyanDan is a sympathy troll. Ignore. There’s no point in taking apart his points — unless you are the type of person who enjoys answering spam.
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There is a quiet revolution going on in the country among conservative women (of which I am one) because of Sarah Palin. Many of us recognize for the first time in our lives just how much we are hated for simply living our lives the way WE chose and not the way NOW tells us we should live it. The hate from my own liberal friends hit me between the eyes like a sledge hammer when Sarah Palin took the stage that first day.
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Perhaps no one noticed, but because of Sarah Palin many centrist women activists crossed the NOW line in the sand and shook our hands here in conservative land. Camille Paglia surprised me the most along with Lynette Long. The press did one hell of a number on Sarah and the power sucking squids inside the beltway are still trying to beat her down, but many of us took the time to research her record, listen to her policy speeches and we admire the hell out of her.
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You may not see this wave building but it’s building. So keep talking sh^t. You’re making Palin famous.
BrideOfRove on December 12, 2008 at 4:50 AM
Spoken like a true RINO traitor. You ought to shut your piehole when the topic is true conservatism because you are as ignorant as they come.
csdeven on December 12, 2008 at 4:52 AM
Interesting. And, what Powell and others like him disregard is that most human beings, if given the chance or option to do so, prefer to live “in the country” or at least, suburbs (which means “country” to most people who’ve lived in urban environs their entire lives, such as “Connecticut” means “the country” to people from Manhattan).
People (most) prefer land and quiet around them, at least clean air and no traffic noise, which means at LEAST SOME “country” environment beyond the inner city. And look who lives in the city versus who lives “not in the city”…
People live long enough, start a family, they want the increased security and safety and pleasure of having a yard, some privacy, quieter schools, safer roads, etc. and all that means “not in the city.” So the young urban professional moves with his newly developing family to the suburbs or “country” when and if he/she can.
The rest, they never move into the cities unless they’re born there and don’t have any options to live elsewhere.
Powell IS speaking racially here as he has for a while now under various cover. Condemning people for pointing it out is failing to speak to the problem, because what Powell is advancing is a racially-defined nation.
S on December 12, 2008 at 5:03 AM
Never forget that it was Colin Powell, a man supposedly sworn to honor and obey (and more), swearing before the U.N. that the vial he held in his hand contained (what was it, gas or yellow cake or whatever), yet what he held in his hand he knew was but a prop (it didn’t contain any threatening content, was mere prop to Powell’s performance).
When I discovered that about Powell, I lost any shred of respect for the man. He’s a liar, he embarrasses our U.S. military.
S on December 12, 2008 at 5:06 AM
I hear ya, sister! The attitude of some of my liberal friends toward Sarah just appalled me. But, like you, I also was pleasantly surprised when friends who were life long Democrats “crossed the aisle” to join us. Regardless of what the trolls say, I think Sarah has the ability to unite people too. We look for great things from her.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 5:12 AM
Powell IS SPEAKING RACIALLY. He is using the term, “rural values” as a denigrating term for “White people” (particularly the same targeted group as Obama refers to when he describes “a typical White person” “clinging to…guns and Bible”), and he is using “urban values” as a term to represent BLACK people, or, “Black values” (and/or Hispanic) whatever the heck that is by comparison.
He’s speaking racially. Which is why he’s a doofus. I disagree that people who point this out should be ridiculed or banned here or deemed to be trolls because it’s Powell and the nearly expressly Left who parades these “racial value” wars as their politics, and when people respond of comment in cutting through their code-references, it’s not out of line, in my view.
S on December 12, 2008 at 5:17 AM
Aack. Martinez nearly killed the Party. We sure do not need Powell to finish off that job.
S on December 12, 2008 at 5:20 AM
Powell is from that Republican block that really does not like Conservatives and probably resents their influence. You see that alot in house negroes.
So in the spirit of RR, may I say FU you POS!
Lonetown on December 12, 2008 at 5:22 AM
That video was telling: Palin did not even flinch with the recoil, which shows how accustomed she is to rifle fire. Impressive.
S on December 12, 2008 at 5:25 AM
religious zealots have taken the GOP and driven it into the ground, using wedge issues to divide, conquer, then govern in an incompetent and corrupt fashion. the party is now irrelevant and deserves every ounce of toxicity it has been tainted with.
Noneya on December 12, 2008 at 5:40 AM
Is there anyone left in the GOP besides religious zealots, racists, nativists, creationists and homophobes?
Noneya on December 12, 2008 at 5:42 AM
It would appear that Desert Storm and it’s success were probably the result of Stormin Norman and Dick Cheney rather than Colin Powel! Someone this retarded could not possibly have come up with that plan…
sabbott on December 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM
Losing the middle is twice as worse as losing the base.
ryandan on December 12, 2008
“…twice as worse…”??
Looks good on ya, ryandan. Welcome to troll village. Population: stupid.
SKYFOX on December 12, 2008 at 5:48 AM
Umm…racists and creationists? Nice! Well, I’m a conservative who left the GOP for not following Conservative principles! I also believe in Creation because I have studied science (biology, physics, math) and can not account for the existence of life and the universe apart from a Creator, but I fail to see how that lumps me in with racists? You are truly a sad little person with a small mind…
sabbott on December 12, 2008 at 5:51 AM
It’s ironic how Social Conservatives are dead set against Hate Crime laws (I am as well) because what matters is the action and not the intent.
And yet when people like myself, who voted on the Republican ticket, voice our disagreement with some Social Conservative issues, we are called “RINOS”. We’re not judged on our actions (actually voting, which is what really matters), but our “intent”.
Our effort to get a Republican elected, our actual voting on the ticket – none of it matters, you see. We’re called “RINOS” because we aren’t part of the groupthink. So we’re told to pack up and leave the party because it doesn’t matter if people like us vote Republican or not. It only matters how we think.
Winning elections doesn’t appear to matter to Social Conservatives. Apparently that’s just not something that is important. What is important is if our “intent” is exactly the same as theirs. If it isn’t, we’re lambasted with huge amounts of derision for living in urban areas, for being Atheists, for being pro-choice, and for supporting gay marriage. We’re told: thanks for nothing, we don’t give a fuck about your kind anyway.
We’re told that it was because of people like us (people who actually voted Republican), that we lost the election. I guess if less RINOS had voted, we probably would have won.
Actually voting really doesn’t matter.
At least…that’s the lesson I’ve recently learned from the comments here.
Summer on December 12, 2008 at 6:07 AM
I don’t remember where I read it, but I recall someone saying that, as a group, career military men do not make the best politicians. There are, of course, exceptions – and some of our greatest presidents were soldiers first. But – tossing all of that aside, I have lost any shred of respect I ever had for Colin Powell. He would have been much better served if he had just kept his mouth shut, cast his vote along with the rest of the country, and left it at that. His attempts to appear “above the fray” only serve to indicate that he is not, was not, and will never be a Conservative Republican…only an actor, and a mediocre one, at that.
uncivilized on December 12, 2008 at 6:29 AM
No … It’s because the candidate was a RINO and RINOs drove the voice of the campaign, that we lost. Everytime a conservative opened his mouth, McCain jumped to distance himself from him, spout some meely-mouthed position that no one (but RINOs) found sensible, and issue public denouncements stronger than anything he ever about against the marxist moron, who he loved to defend and praise. If it hadn’t been for Joe Wurzelbacher, McCain would have lost by 12%.
By the way, how did YOU like McCain’s secret debate weapon of offering to pay everyone’s mortgage? That was a beaut, wasn’t it? I think McCain probably attracted a good number of “moderates” with that one …
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 6:31 AM
Colin Powell has always been nothing more than an opportunist. The take on him even before he became Chairman of the JCoS, was that he is a purely political animal. He will go whichever way the winds of opportunity take him.
I think Powell has finally come home to his real values in this election. He has finally shown himself as the liberal he always was. He used his race to gain traction in the Republican Party as a minority showpiece. But he was always more to the left than the mainstream Republicans would be comfortable with.
Remember that it was Colin Powell who advised G.H.W. Bush to let Saddam off the hook in Desert Storm. If he had guts we would have ended it then and avoided the mess we had this time around. Instead we allowed Saddamn and his cronies to organize and gave Al Queda time to get organized too. He is one of the people primarily responsible for the mess we had in Iraq.
So now he has the temerity to start talking about what we need to do? The man is a failure and should go into quiet ignominy as he has so clearly earned.
Hawthorne on December 12, 2008 at 6:31 AM
Colon Powell only mentioned McCain once, as someone passively “being hurt.” If you fell into a sleepy boredom, you might almost forget that John McCain was at the top of the ticket.
John McCain could not stay on message to save his life. He really made people in the center doubt his sanity with his odd positions, and his vote for a fascist America with the bailout. The lack of mention of Democrat guilt on the subprime mortgage mess is unforgivable and incredibly stupid. That idiot John McCain threw away his strongest arguments, and cut his own balls off by limiting his campaign funding.
At least the idiot John McCain killed public financing of presidential campaigns for future elections.
Right_of_Attila on December 12, 2008 at 6:34 AM
But I will say, McCain did a great job defending that unconstitutional POS campaign finance legislation he was so proud of. It was really nice to see how incensed McCain got that BHO had been running out-and-out campaign fraud by accepting any money from anyone, based on nothing more than the donor’s word and ability to fill out a name and address on a web form … Oh wait … Never mind.
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 6:40 AM
75% of “the world” is either socialist or Marxist.
The vast majority of US institutions such as media & academia are left-wing.
Our country is off track & getting worse by the day.
Forgive us if we feel like “shouting” sometimes.
jgapinoy on December 12, 2008 at 6:43 AM
The couric inyerview was the most significant event to affect the perception of Palin by the public. That interview is what everyone I talk to cites when they say they didn’t like her. After that interview most of the idiots in this country just turned her off and didn’t pay any attention. That can be overcome. Spit on couric if you see her.
peacenprosperity on December 12, 2008 at 6:47 AM
This kind of one sentence writing is becoming the norm among journalists. To write a parapgrph is too difficult for our journalism graduates. Other than that, Palin was and is a breath of fresh air for this country. Obama won because of almost a billion dollars in advertising, white guilt, a media destroying our political process by serving as his propaganda organ, and our stupid and propagandized children
rlwo2008 on December 12, 2008 at 6:54 AM
Powell attacks “small town” America because Powell is a creature of the Beltway — Washington D.C. The opportunism and lack of honor that is quite acceptable in Washington D.C. is just the way it is for Powell. But in “small town” America, where there is real life and where values count, Powell’s ways are unacceptable. Powell’s ways mean death for the GOP.
Phil Byler on December 12, 2008 at 6:57 AM
Nice to see Colin has learned his Georgetown cocktail party talking points so well.
Hindsight’s always 20/20, but the GOP would probably have been better off without Powell and his alter ego, Armitage.
petefrt on December 12, 2008 at 6:59 AM
Incredibly, Powell compared the “almost daily” changes in McCain’s campaign rhetoric to BHO’s “consistent” message.
Powell was duped by the media’s smoothing over of BHO’s 33 flip-flops.
jgapinoy on December 12, 2008 at 7:06 AM
according to colin powell “the minority will be the majority soon”. I’ve been seeing that argument from UK based writers regarding this US election. In Europe it’s an issue in the UK and the netherlands where the muslim population is growing, so I can assume they are ahed in realising this trend.
You get Turkey into the EU and it’s suddenly a VERY different population cocktail.
Where this gets tricky for “conservatives” and should be something Allahpundit addresses, is how do conservatives address this minority to majority trend. They tend to go for the nanny state as that what they know from whence they came. The dangers aren’t evident until it’s too late adn u are in a state of decline. Britain as an example.
It’s quite a challenge – a spectacular failure by Obama helps, or a resurgence of Americanism. Both work for me.
cayman on December 12, 2008 at 7:10 AM
Too much to read all the comments so I might be repeating others but I could never understand this love affair with Powell, I never liked him. Then again, I’m not a Republican, I’m a Conservative.
Jeff on December 12, 2008 at 7:12 AM
First, let me thank Colin Powell once again for going down to Venezuela, when he was Secretary of State, and talking the junta into releasing Chavez. That was real insigtht there. You have really helped the Venezuelan people with that action.
It is plain to see his judgement hasn’t changed. Too full of himself by a long shot. You are not a repub, not that it’s a great thing to be one. Leave the party and join your brothers administration. Yeah, the one you endorsed.
TomJW on December 12, 2008 at 7:15 AM
I wonder if Powell knows how little respect so many people have for him or his ideas? He’ll end up under the bus, anyway, and he won’t have any idea why.
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM
Old Perfumed Princes never die, they just fragrance away.
MB4 on December 11, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Great line. Consider it stolen.
TomJW on December 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM
You dont have a clue as to what you are talking about. What are you, about 13? But stick around – you might learn something from the adults.
abcurtis on December 12, 2008 at 7:27 AM
church on December 11, 2008 at 6:55 PM
You are a racist.
terryannonline on December 11, 2008 at 6:57 PM
He is? What well run countries do you have in mind? Is the truth rascist?
TomJW on December 12, 2008 at 7:28 AM
What I’ve learned from the McCainiacs is “it is better to lose running donk-lite than actually articulate any positions wherein you have structural differences from the mules”…..
yeah it has never worked in my lifetime, but *hey* let’s not focus on details.
sven10077 on December 12, 2008 at 7:29 AM
Ryandan – Rush never made fun of Mike Fox. He quoted Fox’s own words on Fox’s illness, from Fox’s book. I heard that broadcast. Smears dont work very well when people know the real deal.
And yes, your cut and paste talking points are annoying.
abcurtis on December 12, 2008 at 7:30 AM
Who Powell supports politically is his own business and none of mine – it’s still a free country for a while yet. But the advice he’s giving the Republican party is bad advice. Every time Repubs run as conservatives they win. Not as moderates (McCrazy) or liberals (Guiliani), but as conservatives.
abcurtis on December 12, 2008 at 7:33 AM
church on December 11, 2008 at 6:55 PM
AP, ban hammer, please. For pity’s sake, the Obamabots are bad enough for us to have to endure, but this is ridiculous.
Y-not on December 11, 2008 at 7:00 PM
References of where he is wrong. Not just ban him. You seem to confirm his opinion if you have no information that he is wrong. How hard can it be?
TomJW on December 12, 2008 at 7:34 AM
Speak for yourself, dakine. When you use “we” dont include me.
abcurtis on December 12, 2008 at 7:35 AM
Is rayandan posting under several different names or did he bring his brothers and sisters?
abcurtis on December 12, 2008 at 7:37 AM
As far as I’m concerned Powell can buzz off–in the immortal words of the I-Man he’s a transparent, solid gold plated phony as well as a blatant opportunist. It’s time for this racist old fool to dodder off the dog track.
stu.b.con on December 12, 2008 at 7:39 AM
Yes. And either we will kill political correctness or political correctness will kill us.
In my view, Individualism, the key to truly growing, successful and free countries, is particular to the cultures of the Western World. Other cultures can generate successful nations, but they continue to be hampered by the more collectivist/tribal nature of their societies’ underpinings. Many other cultures (the ones that Powell is referring to, in large part) seem unable to self-organize, even though they are collectivist in nature, for whatever reason. Or they build brittle large-scale structures, that dissolve into dust with the first winds. These cultures just run into problems when complexity and/or size reaches certain levels.
I guess it hurts some people, like terryann, to acknowledge some facts and try to understand why.
progressoverpeace on December 12, 2008 at 7:45 AM
“Nothing wrong with being a conservative.” … “GOP has to start appealing to the African American community, … the hispanic community… ” – “she was polarizing” —
Nothing wrong with being a conservative unless you’re a @@@@ RINO and McCain made a token effort to reach across the aisle at the last minute to reach out to conservatives as his primary support from the moderates and Dems turned on him for the general election.
When is the African American community gonna quit acting like lemmings at a 90% rate by voting for poverty pimps & patronizing white Democrats? Everyone gained from the Bush tax cuts, in general, over the 2003-2008 time period, and the Barney Frank Waters Democrat inspired CRA still lives to sodomize the banks and the economy into more bad loans.
No one benefits from people waving foreign flags in protests on our soil voting for people who give them handouts so that they can vote for people to give them more handouts courtesy of people who are legalized citizens.
I say give me polarizing conservatives so that we end the fight to “save the planet” a la Pelosi and the handouts-”bailouts” to illegals, banks and green companies, need to end now. End the alternative energy dogmas and become friends to the oil companies rather than enemies to the very people, who well “grease” the economy.
mdetlh on December 12, 2008 at 7:50 AM
ugh..I live in a small town. Is that idiot saying we dont matter? The blacks and latinos are the only one whos votes matter?
Small town folks are what run this country. He really irritates me. So my small town is doing well, they arent bankrupt or asking for handouts.
He needs to crawl back under his rock
becki51758 on December 12, 2008 at 7:52 AM
I have an idea…pick any city in the U.S., have both a Sarah Palin rally and a Colin Powell rally. See who has the most people show up.
Are there any doubts about who would win?
Jim62sch on December 12, 2008 at 7:58 AM
Good post. One thing I don’t think you mentioned,,, our candidate McCain nearly refused until the very end to criticize the Big O.
Look,, the battle for our minds goes on forever. It is just like the debates. We are told we didn’t see what we all knew we saw. Palin didn’t make a fool of Biden. Obama wasn’t looking cross eyed at the camera. And now we are told McCain didn’t lose the election, Palin lost it for him. In fact,, the ol soldier Powell might have even endorsed his ol liberal buddy McCain if it wasn’t for Palin screaming about small town values so much!
Why is the phrase “small town values” so insulting yet
some how phrases like “repairing America’s image” not??
The mainstream media and the Powells of the world must continually pump into our minds the messages they need us to believe in order for us to remain defeated.
We need to dump our principles that threaten them, “reach out” to our enemies and mold ourselves into what they want us to be. That’s what you do when you go to war, isn’t it?? Listen to what your enemy tells you. If your enemy says you’re using the wrong weapons and if you just calmed down a little,, tried being a little nicer, reached out a little more on the battlefield as opposed to shouting so much, maybe then you’d win more. Sure,, we all need to listen to our enemies more when going to war. They have our best interest at heart!
JellyToast on December 12, 2008 at 8:04 AM
Go to hell, Powell.
jeff_from_mpls on December 12, 2008 at 8:10 AM
Palin 2012
Onager on December 12, 2008 at 8:14 AM
As if blacks, latinos, and asians are unresponsive to “pulling up our bootstraps”.
As if whites aren’t urbanites.
As if minorities don’t have small town “values”.
Urban Values? To get carte blanche divisive racial references when you appeal to the pseudo-urbane Left?
What a bunch of douchebags. I must go vomit now.
Saltysam on December 12, 2008 at 8:16 AM
that guy has thirty pieces of silver stashed somewhere :-)
jdewberr on December 12, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Right on target, JToast. I just don’t get Powell, and I certainly don’t trust ‘advice’ from the other side of the aisle.
Red State State of Mind on December 12, 2008 at 8:20 AM
ryandan on December 12, 2008 at 1:56 AM
What is it about AP posts that bring out these kind of morons? This is the kind of person that wears a diaper and sits in his/her own crap in order to play WOW without interruption.
Keemo on December 12, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Shoot.
Meant to say: Urban Vlaues? To get a carte blanche pass when using divisive racial references if you appeal to the pseudo-urbane Left?
Saltysam on December 12, 2008 at 8:21 AM
Who’s this guy? Don’t remember seeing him around when we were fighting.
dhimwit on December 12, 2008 at 8:21 AM
ToddonCapeCod: Powell needs to STFU and go away
ToddonCapeCod on December 12, 2008 at 8:21 AM
Would somebody please send Powell a change of party registration card so he can come out of the closet and finally be the real Democrat that he is …
I’m being nice here because I can’t say what I really think.
Done That on December 12, 2008 at 8:39 AM
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