Powell: Palin needs to stop polarizing the party by talking up small-town values
posted at 6:39 pm on December 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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As AP would say: Nuance. Why must people question other people’s faith, or twist it and use it to attack each other? I’ve never understood it.
Personally, I have no problem with legitimate questions because I think that there are legitimate ones to be asked and legitimate criticisms to be made. Sadly, those are rarely brought up. Instead the criticisms or questions are more often about the stereotype than about the actual flaws. Your last sentence would be a good example. It’s an intentionally derisive statement, yet you would likely criticize those who might take offense to it. I think people are just tired of the constant attacks. Just my opinion.
meltenn on December 12, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Anything to the right of THIS is a stupid fundamentalist right wing bible thumping wacko to to certain people. Consider the source.
LegendHasIt on December 12, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Well said.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM
A very, very excellent point. Well said.
JellyToast on December 12, 2008 at 6:19 PM
ramrocks: Here I believe is how Obama and his merry men and women propose to dismantle the Constitution and set the stage where Obama can become President for life. First let me set the scene. The American Policy Institute (API) has just asserted at World Net Daily that 32 states have already taken a vote to convene a Constitutional Convention (Con Con) with Ohio considering going along with its assemblage. That would mean that the states would only be 1 state short (34) of being able to apply to Congress, whereupon the Congress would have no alternative but to call a convention ‘for proposing Amendments, which shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of 3/4 of the several states or by Conventions in 3/4 thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by Congress…’ (Article V). Let me now say that the overt motive for the convention is to look at passing an amendment requiring a balanced budget for federal agencies which doesn’t seem bad on the surface. However, Tom DeWeese of the API stated that ‘the US Constitution places no restriction on the purposes for which the states can call for a convention.’ In other words once a convention is called and delegates selected anything can be proposed such as eliminating or amending a the right free speech, the right to bear arms, and maybe ‘aboilsh the 4th, 5th and 10th amendments and the rest of the Bill of Rights’, including repealing the 22nd Amendment limiting the President to 2 terms maximum. Now if Congress agrees to ratification of 3/4 of the states represented at the convention then all Obama has to do is to threaten, bully, bribe, blackmail, or corrupt 38 state delegations to get his agenda passed. Now if Congress insists on that 38 of the State legislatures have to ratify the various proposals then all Obama has to do is appoint and assign 50 individuals to each of the 50 states with their only assignment being to bring the state legislature in line. For some of those kingpins the task is straightforward: in Democratic controlled legislatures or those leaning in a majority to Obama just keep each legislator on your side until the vote comes up; for those legislatures where Obama or the Democrats are not in a majority, the kingpin would compile a data base consisting of the legislators and their voting preference. As to ones who oppose Obama first they would try to buy them off and if they couldn’t be bought set about in the next election cycle to take them out at the polls and replace them by someone who favors Obama. This would take big money to achieve, but as we know Obama and his money men have more money than Fort Knox. Follow this game plan over a 4-6 year period and I think you can see that Obama might get to 38 states eventually. From that point everything is lost. Obama can then become President for life (even if elections are still legal he will rig them with the help of ACORN so that he will never lose again.)Now I would invite anybody out there to tear my analysis apart and tell me why this could never happen. I would be happy to know and I think a lot Americans would like to know as well.
technopeasant on December 12, 2008 at 6:44 PM
The Republican Party does have a problem.
Religious Conservatives made it the party of power in the 80’s, but the Perot coalition has caused a polarizing affect in the party as of 2000. Those Perot voters were mainly libertarian and mostly secular. They want the party to steer away from the “religious” and more to libertarianism (the Ayn Rand variety). Those of us that are in the majority of the party, i.e. religious conservatives, simply refuse to stand by while these non-Republicans try to force their libertarian doctrine onto the platform.
Sorry libertarians (i.e. Colin Powel, David Brooks, Kathleen Parker, and many of the secular libertarians on this blog) we are not going away, and you will not be allowed to take over our party. You may join us and help us in fighting the socialist-Marxists that have taken over the Democratic Party, but you cannot take over our party.
The Libertarian Party is still viable, try going over there with your “South Park conservatism.” The Republican Party, at least since the Reagan years, has been small government, pro-life, pro-family, pro-God, pro-Judeo-Christian values, pro-entrepreneurship, and pro-military. And that’s is why there is a controversy among us on this blog and in the media. There are a vocal minority of secular-libertarians who want to take over the Republican Party and the Conservative movement. That is the “polarizing force” that is occurring, and it came from the outside, not from the inside.
Joe Pyne on December 12, 2008 at 6:46 PM
tech, you and I agree on a lot of things, and you know that I always enjoy your insights. But this president for life theory of yours is just too out there for me. I guess if Obama were truly cut from the same cloth as Hitler or Castro, then this is a possibility. But I’m not willing to go that far. We used to think that Bill Clinton was evil incarnate. There were conspiracy minded lefties who were claiming that Bush might do something to suspend the election and stay in power indefinitely using some obscure war powers act. Until you have hard proof that Obama is planning a coup d’état, then it’s all just us spinning “what if” scenarios.
And you make Obama out to be invincible. He’s not.
ramrocks on December 12, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Ramrocks, Technopeasant, and the others who said this are absolutely right. The elections are rigged. And they have been for a long time. Talking about Party strategy is pointless because the Republican Party is as bad as the Democrats. Union mob and corporate cleptocrats meet up and decide on mutual agreeable candidates. They try to take turns, and if it looks like the wrong horse will win despite the fix they create an emergency to manipulate public opinion in the proper direction.
But it’s not flawlessly rigged. Once in a great while, whan the people are angry enough, someone slips through the cracks and gets elected despite the best-laid plans of mobsters and plutocrats. But there’s always a backup plan.
Ronald Reagan slipped through the cracks in 1980. Twelve weeks lated he was shot multiple times. It was a miracle he survived. Who was his VP?
Call me wacko-nutjob-conspiracy nut if you want. I don’t hang with kooks and I don’t read their books or watch their movies. I figured this out on my own. And so, apparently, have Ramrocks, Technopeasant, and a lot of other people.
Folks, we’re screwed.
Venusian Visitor on December 12, 2008 at 7:56 PM
And we’re all just going to stand by and watch this happen? You know there is a reason gun sales have gone up 50% since the election… I believe we have become so polarized as a country that a civil war is coming…
CCRWM on December 12, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Powell shows his Washington D.C. arrogance and hence his utter worthlessness at this point.
Powell, when Bush’s Secretary of State, did not tell Bush and Cheney that he knew Armitage was the “leaker” about Plame to Bob Novak, but instead remained quiet as Bush and Cheney were pillioried in the press and a special prosecutor caused problems for the Bush Administration for years. That was disloyal and dishonest.
This year, Powell endorsed a socialist, appeasement-minded Democrat in Obama for President over a man in McCain who was highly qualified to be Commander in Chief at a time of war and was one of the leading proponents of the successful surge strategy in Iraq. That was disloyal and stupid.
Now, Powell attacks Palin and “small town” America, where real values count to real Republicans.
Since Powell does not have sense enough to understand that the mainstream media crowd does not speak for mainstream Republicans and that he (Powell) has no credibiity whatsoever in the GOP, a not-so-polite message should be delivered to Powell: bleep off.
Phil Byler on December 12, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Hmmm!
One Terrorist – publically talking to Another Terrorist…
…Both of whom – are “Shouting At The World”….
grtflmark on December 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Terrorists? Shouting? Where?
Venusian Visitor on December 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Has it really all changed that much? Granted, the Democratic party has changed since McGovern. Kennedy would not fit with the Democratic party of today. But that change was in place before Reagan, and Reagan still won. In fact, all that you say of the Democrats has been true since Reagan.
Witness how the Congress under Bush 41 demanded that the president break his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge, shutting down the government repeatedly and blaming the president for the shutdown each time. And just as today, the media helped the Democrats blame the president each time, even having little opinion pieces to tell the president that “for the good of the country” he would have to let go of his pledge and raise taxes. The moment he did, they gave him no credit for doing what they demanded, but turned around and blamed him for raising taxes. When we then had a recession, predictably, they blamed that on the president, too. Then Clinton got elected by calling it “the worst economy in 50 years.” An obvious lie, only 12 years after the disgraceful Carter administration. Ever hear the media correct that claim? Of course not! Then as now, they are the propaganda wing of the Democratic party. Before Clinton had been in office a year, he was taking credit for 3 straight years of deficit reduction. The media was oblivious to the absurdity of the claim.
When Reagan proposed welfare reform, the media called Reagan “mean-spirited” and found sympathetic people on welfare and posted thoughtful stories on how tough they had it. When Clinton finally did something on welfare reform, the media did stories comparing welfare and food stamps to minimum wage jobs, discovering — and reporting! — that welfare income amounted to nearly as much as a minimum wage job.
After Watergate, it really did look like the Republican party was finished. The instinct then was exactly like the instinct now: to declare their day had passed, and the key to winning elections was to be just like the Democrats.
Reagan ran as a conservative, and proved conservatism isn’t dead. Losing this election does not prove that conservatism is dead. It proves that the Republican party was able to hold onto the presidency for 8 years, but not 12.
By all means, rethink, restructure, reconsider, adapt. But don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater because the know-nothing media says your day is over. That’s classic wishful thinking on their part.
That’s not to say that you don’t have a point about Obama hoping to change the landscape and hold onto power. The best argument for your point is FDR, who ignored the Constitution when it suited him, and got everything from Congress he ever wanted. Elected 4 times, like no other president has been before or since. Got the Constitution amended to repeal Prohibition in about a week, once he proposed it. Started multiple unconstitutional programs. Raised the top tax bracket to 99%. Created a labor court to hear all disputes concerning unions and management, at a stroke eliminating any judges from jurisdiction in labor disputes.
Problem is, he’s also the strongest argument against what you say. As popular as he was, sometimes seeming like a force of nature, the basic structure of our government was unchanged after he was gone.
My point is not that we should trust Obama, but that we shouldn’t throw out what Republicans stand for in the vain hope that if we look more like the Democratic party, we’ll win more elections. On the contrary, if we don’t give people a good reason to vote for Republican candidates, they’ll just keep voting in more Democrats.
tom on December 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Another thing Obama could do is to change the term of the Presidency to 6 years like it is in France and thus over a 16 year period he would only have to face the electorate 3 times rather than 4 times.
technopeasant on December 13, 2008 at 1:02 AM
To pussum207 and Jelly Toast: It should be noted that in 2007, McCain’s campaign came back from the dead when he spoke what he truly believed about Iraq and implementing and sticking with what we have called the surge, saying he would rather lose a campaign than lose a war. The lesson should be to say what you truly believe.
Phil Byler on December 13, 2008 at 5:41 AM
Powell has come a long way. Completely unmasked now for the liberal he is. With all due respect Sir, do the party a favor and JSTHU.
hawkdriver on December 13, 2008 at 5:57 AM
This guy needs to be put in that “spider hole” vacated by Saddam.
Another freakin’ RHINO sellout!
hopefloats on December 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM
A brief local newspaper story with interview on the ‘Cuda’s in-laws. No news, but nice to hear a little from them. They mention that Bristol is due as early as next week (though I feel sure that if she doesn’t deliver then the Trig Truthers will go crazy).
I’m interested to see what the conspiracy story is once Bristol does give birth. The lady that has the whole website and blog about Trig Trutherism (she posts on it almost every day) has started backtracking and now says that she believes that Bristol really is pregnant (I like to see what the enemy is saying so I check in over there sometimes. I always feel like I need a shower afterwards.). Thus far she has offered no other explanation for where Trig came from. I think the next story will involve the ‘Cuda’s other son. That lady is now also convinced that the letter about her health that the ‘Cuda put out on the eve of the election is a forgery.
meltenn on December 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM
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