DeMint conference call: Card Check, bailouts

posted at 12:00 pm on December 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Senator Jim DeMint held a conference call to discuss Card Check with bloggers, and he called it the most important subject — because it’s mostly flown under the radar.  DeMint feels that the push for bailouts and nationalization has us moving towards socialization, which is one of the aims of the union movement, historically speaking.  DeMint does not oppose union representation, but he opposes forced membership and especially government-imposed solutions like Card Check.

DeMint noted that the states doing poorly are mostly those with closed-shop rules and heavy unionization.  It makes them less competitive and less attractive for investment.  Even so, union membership has declined to the point where labor has now been forced to organize illegal workers, and that’s why they need Card Check.  Without the intimidation factor, American workers will not vote to organize in most workplaces.

The lack of a secret ballot is not the only problem in the EFCA, either.  DeMint pointed out the requirement for government-imposed binding arbitration, which will allow the unions to rely on the NRLB to impose requirements on private enterprise.  That leads to months-long standoffs that will reduce the abiity of organized industries to retain enough flexibility to remain competitive in the marketplace.

Bad news: DeMint believes that Arlen Specter will not back a filibuster against Card Check.  That means that Republicans can afford no other defectors on that issue and that Norm Coleman has to hold his seat in Minnesota.

Questions:

  • Me – Is this a deliberate attempt to socialize the US, or is this and the bailouts more of a Keystone Kops drill that stumbles into it? — He thinks the unions are acting deliberately to have the government nationalize industries like the automakers so that union contracts don’t get rewritten.
  • Amanda Carpenter – Do you think that the automaker meltdown and the SEIU involvement in the Blagojevich scandal will help make the case against Card Check? — DeMint says it shows that power corrupts, and leaving that kind of power in the hands of unions and “car czars” will produce even more endemic corruption.
  • Philip Klein – Do you think that the push for nationalized health care falls into this same category, and does Obama’s appointment of Tom Daschle signals socialization of American health care? — We have to push alternate policies and point out the failures of socialized medicine around the world, but DeMint agrees we’re in real trouble here.  Again, he doesn’t believe that Republicans can sustain a filibuster against it.
  • Rob Bluey – Are you confident that Republicans can resist the auto bailout?  — No, not really.  Reid won’t allow Republicans to amend the House bill, so they’ll have to go all or nothing on that bill.  He believes that they have a chance, but a filibuster is not a sure thing.

Time to contact the squishes!  Call your Senators at 202-224–3121, or use the direct listings here (add 202-22 to the numbers listed).


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I live in Alabama and our Senators are leading the charge against this bailout. People need to contact their linguini spined Senators and stop this bailout and then card check and all the rest of the crap coming down the pike. This isn’t going to be easy, but it can be done.

suzyk on December 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM

There’s one Dem Senator against the bailout. I know two GOP Senators are for it. (McCain and some other dude)

lodge on December 11, 2008 at 12:06 PM

The hell’s card check?

abobo on December 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Well my congress critter doesn’t care. Big lib blames everything on evil Boooosh and is going whole hog for everything.

Iblis on December 11, 2008 at 12:09 PM

There’s one Dem Senator against the bailout. I know two GOP Senators are for it. (McCain and some other dude)

lodge on December 11, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Good lord, is McCain at it again?

rplat on December 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Looks like Mac needs to ingratiate himself to the DFL circles again now that the election is over.

Besides national defense, we were truly screwed no matter who won this election.

Bishop on December 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Good lord, is McCain at it again?

Yup. E-mail his office and look at the standard reply. I can’t remember the exact wording, but it was along the lines of “lets do everything we can to save the auto industry”

This gives him a great opportunity for him and his pet Grahmnesty to break the deadlock, lead a ‘gang of RINOs’ and “save” the US auto industry.

lodge on December 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Good lord, is McCain at it again?

rplat on December 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Never stopped. Only played slightly more conservative than PEBO during the election. True colors are showing again.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM

The hell’s card check?

abobo on December 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

No secret ballot on where to unionize at a place of employment. Union bosses will be able to intimidate people (directly) into joining a union.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM

The hell’s card check?

abobo on December 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

I really don’t believe you don’t know this….

Card check is a method of organizing employees into a labor union in which employers are forced to enter into an agreement to recognize the unionization of its employees if a majority of employees in a bargaining unit sign authorization forms, or “cards” that others are allowed to see your vote.

This means your vote is not a secret vote to join or not to join a union. Your vote can be coerced or intimidated into voting against your wishes.

It is the worst form of socialism imaginable.

Kini on December 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Bad news: DeMint believes that Arlen Specter will not back a filibuster against Card Check.

Hey, it’s not like unions ever did anything to Pennsylvania – besides destroy the steel industry.

forest on December 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Bad news: DeMint believes that Arlen Specter will not back a filibuster against Card Check.

Tell Arlen that because of his position, he should have no problem letting the rest of the GOP set up a website solely to announce his votes on every single legislation, especially pork projects.

No secrets? If its good for unions, its good enough for Senators.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM

I heard about getting rid of secret ballots,just not under the name of card check.

abobo on December 11, 2008 at 12:33 PM

I tried to call my two Senators about the auto bailout. Senator Specter’s line was busy the three times I tried. Am I being paranoid in thinking that Specter just doesn’t want to hear from constituents? I like his moderation, and I understand that people who call my not represent the population. So why should a Senator care about the freaks who do call? Still, it seems to me that Senators should pretend to care about the people engaged enough to call them about an issue.
I had no trouble getting through to Senator Casey. I tried to combine opposition to socialism with environmentalist car hatred in a way that I thought would surprise the aide and make my call interesting and memorable. It was probably a wasted effort as Casey is a socialist.

thuja on December 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM

DeMint feels that the push for bailouts and nationalization has us moving towards socialization

You guys wouldn’t be whining about socialism and nationalism if the entire financial system had collapsed. It’s easy to throw around your little catch phrases and complain endlessly about the cost of the bailout, when you have no idea how close the entire system came to collapse.

We tried clinging to all those ‘free market’ tactics during the Great Depression. It didn’t work. There’s a reason why the big boys are running the show and not Sara Palin or some other right wing bonehead who doesn’t understand the complexities of macroeconomic policy.

bayam on December 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Watch Benedict Mc Cain on the AUTO bailout.

Rick007 on December 11, 2008 at 1:41 PM

You guys wouldn’t be whining about socialism and nationalism if the entire financial system had collapsed. It’s easy to throw around your little catch phrases and complain endlessly about the cost of the bailout, when you have no idea how close the entire system came to collapse.

We have the government and the Federal Reserve to thank for it, too.

Trusting them to “fix it” with the same loose credit, loose monetary, bubble-inflating policies that got the (barely-free) markets into the current mess is Einstein’s definition of insanity.

We tried clinging to all those ‘free market’ tactics during the Great Depression. It didn’t work.

Ahahahahahaha! Thanks for that. I needed a laugh today.

There’s a reason why the big boys are running the show and not Sara Palin or some other right wing bonehead who doesn’t understand the complexities of macroeconomic policy.

Ahahahahahaha! Yer killin’ me here!

How many times must Keynesian economics be thoroughly discredited before the ideologues stop trying to make it work at our expense?

America’s Great Depression
By Murray N. Rothbard

Rae on December 11, 2008 at 2:46 PM

bayam on December 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM

You need to check this out:

FDR’s policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

After scrutinizing Roosevelt’s record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

INC on December 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM

I just hope the Republican senators stand firm against this socialist bailout. McCain just never seemed to understand this concept. Good times are over. The auto industry have to make changes, and the UAW have to make concessions, or go to oblivion.

byteshredder on December 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM