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right4life on December 11, 2008 at 3:43 PM

I will admit my wit is fairly dry, but this is internet politics. Slapstick requires visuals.

In any event, I’m bored with you, back to actual discussion:

C’mon right4life, don’t give them a way out, MadisonConservative has not been able to answer any of my questions and he and BKennedy go out on a tangent and you let them? Please BKennedy tell me that you were knocking MadisonConservative with the V monologues example and then you found common ground like we all should?

TitleofLiberty on December 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Mary Kay Laterneau, being an actual example of a female pedophile was more to the point. To oppose The V-Monologues doesn’t require conservatism, it requires a sense of decency.

I have in several topics previously and indeed, in one of my radio interviews I had at the college (e.g. live and in person) compared homosexuality to alcholism, since the parallels require little explanation. Tendency to Alcholism is known to be caused genetically, and the tendency itself does not make one bad, evil, etc. etc. However, when acted upon, the tendency becomes a self and other destructive addiction that is difficult to recover from.

The best way to establish a case of similarity is looking at the metrics of regularly practiced homosexual behavior vis-a-vis life expectancy, proneness to disease, behavioral dysfunction, etc compared to the “norm” [in this case regularly practiced heterosexuality]. Look at the metrics and you’ll find a marked (and negative) difference.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Yup. We’re the wackos.

MadisonConservative on December 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM

SaintOlaf is not entirely off-base here.

You don’t think the eHarmony lawsuit (the second one coming from a homosexual, actually) was just an isolated incident of a single disgruntled person with too much time on their hands, do you?

Remember Mark Steyn, dragged to Canada’s Star Chamber for “Islamophobia?” The Canadian government had previously arrested a preist for speaking out publicly against gay marriage.

In Britain, Catholic Adoption services have been ordered to close down because they would not adopt out to gay couples. The same with Massachusetts Catholic Charities.

When Gay Marriage, a civic frivolity imposed by judicial fiat, and Religious Freedom of Conscience, enshrined in the actual text of the Constitution, collide Religious Freedom has a track record of losing.

Freedom of Conscience is a conservative value: It is an individual liberty. Were Gay Marriage and the Gay Agenda not the many tentacled beast it is, abutting against that fundamental individual right, I wouldn’t have as large a problem with it.

But as far as consistency is concerned, I don’t think there should be special recognitions called “civil unions.” Just call it what it is: Contract Law. Nothing special about it, just inheritance and visitation rights. If people want to hire a lawyer for that, I don’t really care who they’re conferring it to. That is also an individual liberty.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 4:22 PM

So what part was off-base? The Christians in gas chambers run by FEMA part or the letting people “go free” if they deny Jesus part? That anyone would take someone like Olaf or right4life seriously in any debate about morality or politics in general says more about that person’s judgement than it does about either of them; after all, we know they’re crazy.

Nonfactor on December 11, 2008 at 4:31 PM

I said he was not entirely off-base in his assertion of a liberty-destroying Gay Agenda, not that all his words were the infallable writ of God himself.

I imagine he would disagree.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Fundamentally, it’s because I don’t see gay marriage as a threat, to mine or anyone else’s marriage. If anything, narcissism is the greatest threat to marriage, particularly the last generation, and especially mine.

The existence of a million evils does not threaten any one individual’s particular marriage, but that really isn’t the point. If the Studebaker’s have an open fling but get jealous of their other’s lover and separate, that doesn’t affect your individual marriage, but I imagine having open marriage taught as a morally equivalent alternative in media and public schools isn’t in the realm of things you would lend public support or approval to.

There is already precedent for this is Massachusetts vis-a-vis Gay Marriage, with elementary school students being sent home with books equating the practice as a moral and equal alternative. There are legions of PC Professors willing to shill for “diverse families,” pretending that Single Parenthood, Two Mommies, or Two Daddies are just as normal, prevalent, and functional as the standard bearer when common sense teaches otherwise.

Also, if there really is a Gay Agenda (caps yours), then they really need to focus on international movements, because outside the US, they’re failing miserably. Given a choice between gays and apocalypse-lusting Muslims nutjobs like Dinner Jacket, I’ll deal with a rainbow flag or two.

MadisonConservative on December 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

The Gay Movement isn’t exactly floundering anywhere except the Muslim world, for obvious reasons. I should note, however, that Muslims appear to be reproducing in Western European countries faster than everyone else. Everyone else being the people more likely to approve of gay marriage.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 4:45 PM

So far, the number of 9/11s carried out by gay activists are a lot less than the number Muslims carried out.

I’ll tolerate a parade or two over that.

MadisonConservative on December 11, 2008 at 4:56 PM

The Folson Street Fair is an annual terrorism on the eyes.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 4:56 PM

The population reproduction rate in the educated westernized world is going down. And, how long has China had the one child per household law? Of course all this is part of the Great Gay Conspiracy.

SC.Charlie on December 11, 2008 at 4:59 PM

Geez SC.Charlie, you’re just like a pro-gay marriage version of right4life.

Why does everything have to be tied to “the gays?”

I was simply making a factual note that Muslims are by and large the primary source of reproduction in Western Europe.

Erego, if you support gay marriage that’s a bad thing long term. I don’t correlate the existence of gay marriage with the decline in childbirth. If it is a factor, it’s a marginal one. I’d blame the decline of religious faith and devaluation of human life first and foremost. We had a post not too long ago about Baronness Warnock promoting euthanasia for the demented in order to save the NHS health costs. It’s the logical conclusion of treating human beings as monetary equivalents.

BKennedy on December 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM