Myers shocked, shocked at Democrats objectifying women
posted at 8:35 am on December 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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It’s been a while since we’ve given out a Captain Louis Renault award, but we have a classic winner today. Dee Dee Myers professes shock and indignation at the manhandling of a Hillary Clinton cardboard cutout at a party by a speechwriter for Barack Obama. She huffs and puffs about “humiliation”, “disempowerment”, “denigration”, and all the while never mentions her years on the staff of a certain president who used an intern for his sexual release (via Q&O):
What’s bugging me is his intention. He isn’t putting his hand on her “chest,” as most of the articles and conversations about the picture have euphemistically referred to it. Rather, his hand—cupped just so—is clearly intended to signal that he’s groping her breast. And why? Surely, not to signal he finds her attractive. Au contraire. It’s an act of deliberate humiliation. Of disempowerment. Of denigration.
And it disgusts me.
Oh, I know: If Hillary can get over it, why can’t I? Her spokesman, Phillipe Reinnes, tried to make light of the incident. “Senator Clinton is pleased to learn of Jon’s obvious interest in the State Department, and is currently reviewing his application,” he told the Washington Post in an E-mail. Obviously, she has no interest in making a federal case out of this particular incident, particularly as both the Clinton and Obama camps work on letting bygones be bygones. She has to pick her battles, and for her this ain’t a hill worth dying on.
But there is a larger issue at stake. At what point does sexist behavior get taken seriously? At what point do people get punished in ways that suggest this kind of behavior, this kind of thinking, is unacceptable? At what point do we insist there will be consequences? Clearly, that didn’t happen during the recent presidential campaign, when Hillary was—as I guess she is now—fair game. The press, the pundits, and the public could say things about her (“She’s a shrew!”) and to her (“Iron my shirt!) that were over-the-top sexist—yet got almost no reaction.
At what point does sexist behavior get taken seriously? At about the point when the Ds change to Rs, which Myers concedes later in the piece. But seriously, is Myers kidding? For which administration did she work, anyway? Bill Clinton had a long track record of sexual peccadilloes that ended with a stain on a blue dress belonging to a White House intern, a perjury charge, impeachment, and disbarment.
The level of outrage seems highly overblown by Myers and the rest of Favreau’s critics. Here’s the pic again:

Not a commendable moment, perhaps, but it’s a joke. Really, have we become such pantywaists that we can’t tell the difference between a joke and “denigration”, “disempowerment”, and “humiliation”? I’d suggest that one bright line would be whether a live person was being fondled or a cardboard cutout. The latter doesn’t humiliate anything but the inanimate object, while the former happened with Myers’ co-workers without her getting this exercised over it. Hillary gave it exactly the right response, but Myers enjoys her sanctimonious outrage too much to see that.
For Myers’ disgust, I’ll grant her the Captain Louis Renault Award, with a special Irony Cluster for her article’s appearance on the pages of Vanity Fair with Kate Winslet’s naked butt and another pic of four women lying in a tableau that looks like a modern-day harem.
Update: Stacy McCain has more thoughts.
Update II: Forgot the link; added it in now.
Update III: My friend Right Wing Sparkle doesn’t entirely agree with me, but makes this absolutely dead-on point:
It is also ironic that Myers would write this for a magazine, Vanity Fair, whose cover has Tina Fey, dressed in a skimpy outfit with an American flag flying behind her, with the caption “A New American Sweetheart.” Right. I suppose they feel we owe a debt of gratitude to Tina Fey for saving us from Sarah Palin. I suppose they use that as a way to justify the fact that Tina Fey portrayed a Governor and an intelligent, accomplished woman like Palin, as a bumbling beauty queen hick. They don’t even see how they are a part of the reason women are denigrated and disrespected.
Democrats like Myers and the writers and editors of Vanity Fair are swimming in a sea of hypocrisy.
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Of course Hillary responded by blowing it off.
She’s still married to Bill, isn’t she? If she wasn’t capable of ignoring sexist behavior aimed directly at her (and Bill’s infidelity is an insult to Hillary as much as anything), she wouldn’t have gotten the chance to be President or Secretary of State. The only pathetic party in all of this is Hil, because she is unable to stand up for herself when it might cost her a position of power.
jimmy the notable on December 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM
I’m outraged.
lodge on December 10, 2008 at 8:45 AM
Of course its a joke! No male human in their right mind would ever think to do that in earnest.
Darksean on December 10, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Funny how people like her ignore the ugly pile-on that Sarah Palin was subjected to during the campaign, but this is so freaking “disturbing”.
Idiot.
surrounded on December 10, 2008 at 8:46 AM
What do you think would have happened if (during the Lewinsky times) Hillary had dumped Bill, moved out of the White House, and divorced him? Would she still have run for the Senate and won? Would that action have increased her popularity and electability, or diminished it? I don’t have an opinion one way or the other, but I’m curious to hear what others think would have happened.
Red State State of Mind on December 10, 2008 at 8:46 AM
The irony is that Myers was part of the most immature group of kids ever to inhabit the White House…trashing the White House before the take-over? And that was after they had “grown up” for 8 years.
My how the memory fades…
right2bright on December 10, 2008 at 8:46 AM
I think Dee Dee just insulted Shrillary more than the groping of the cutout.
I love liberals.
progressoverpeace on December 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM
That is rather funny coming from Dee Dee Myers.Is she serious?What’s next?Will Barney Frank go on a crusade against male prostitution?Will Dan Rather launch a task force to probe media bias?Maybe Chris Dodd can investigate the scourge of sweetheart loan deals or Eric Holder will now warn Bush to be careful about whom he pardons as he leaves office.
Their B.S. outrage has no boundaries.
NeoKong on December 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM
Have to echo “surrounded” here – where were these women during the abysmal treatment of Sarah Palin during the campaign? Was Dee Dee complaining about Reuters, the AP, and their upskirt porn photos of Palin at her stump speeches?
Not to mention their silence about Bill Clinton’s treatment of women. Go away with your faux outrage, Dee Dee.
Jim62sch on December 10, 2008 at 8:52 AM
For the top speechwriter for the President of the Untied States?
It’s piss poor judgment. It is a reflection of how seriously he takes this whole gig, and how seriously Obama takes it as well.
It’s all just a joke, this President thing. It’s not as though it’s something to be considered with gravity. I could not disagree with you more, Ed.
drjohn on December 10, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Dee Deeeeeee must have shat her pants over the treatment that lovely Sarah received.
But like you said, Deeeeeeeeee Deeeeeeeeeeee, if Hillary can get over it so can you, considering both of you have gotten over President Bill playing games with his intern.
Bishop on December 10, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Does anyone think that had a Bush speechwriter do this he would have gotten the same pass?
Give me a break.
drjohn on December 10, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Democrats have to hire a PR firm to convince us they are not animals.
jeff_from_mpls on December 10, 2008 at 8:57 AM
There are jokes, and then there are “jokes”. This is a “joke”.
A seamless garb here would be the same feelings about those individuals (Bill Ayers included) trampling or burning the Flag, which, after all, is not a live person but merely an abstract representation of millions of live people.
The cardboard cutout was quite a bit more than an abstract representation of Ms. Clinton, and I wouldn’t even let the two guys in that picture in the door at State if I were Ms. Clinton.
I suspect she won’t, or if she does, their lives will be a brief hell before their defective motivators push them out the door. When politicians say all is forgiven, the knives are out.
Oh, and Dee Dee needs to know that the word “denigration” is no longer in the PC lexicon.
unclesmrgol on December 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Dee Dee apparently saw nothing wrong with a president groping real, flesh and blood women. So her outrage at a speech writer groping a card board cut out rings a little hollow.
MarkTheGreat on December 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Libs only become disturbed about explosions, sexual exploitation, secrecy, illegal pardons, lies, drug abuse, dysfunctional family issues corrupt activities and a host of other pecadillos, only when conservatives respectively have, or commit, them.
I think Hillary has very low self esteem and is just heavily wired for political power and influence. He life is crap.
Imagine having the loving and honorable Bill as the center of your existance. Sad. Very sad.
IlikedAUH2O on December 10, 2008 at 8:59 AM
this thread is worthless without pics
heh
brak on December 10, 2008 at 8:59 AM
The pic is funny,a joke.
Bill Clinton tho was a lowlife sexual pervert and sexual harasser. He used women as his playthings for all of his political career.
becki51758 on December 10, 2008 at 9:00 AM
It’s all just a joke, this President thing. It’s not as though it’s something to be considered with gravity. I could not disagree with you more, Ed.
drjohn on December 10, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Cheers, best post of the thread. The Obarfy campaign and election was one giant, DFL frat-boy prank on the American people, a campaign populated with grown adolescents who never thought they would actually be able to surprise the Dean.
Bishop on December 10, 2008 at 9:00 AM
drjohn is a genius.
Repubs would be accused of this for decades by the “smart set” in Georgetown and elsewhere.
IlikedAUH2O on December 10, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Yeah, of course it’s a joke. That’s the problem. Women are judged first on their looks, no matter what their accomplishments and that’s not a joke. That’s what the “glass ceiling” is all about. I call it the playboy mentality. No matter how accomplished, intelligent or savy a woman may be, she is first judged by her physical appearance. And most women are too stupid to get it.
bloggless on December 10, 2008 at 9:06 AM
GIMME!
SlimyBill on December 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM
That is what I noted, too.
SlimyBill on December 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM
yes.
Metro on December 10, 2008 at 9:12 AM
Exactly, and highlights the larger issue that Dee Dee Myers mostly fails to recognize.
The Left and its obsession with identity politics has brought us to the point where no one is judged by what they do, but only by what they are.
Jon Favreau, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and other Democrat men are allowed to be as sexist as they want because they are Dems and therefore fundamentally “good.” When a little joke like this one is revealed it’s treated as such because of the identity of the jokester.
Any Republican transgression – real, imagined or fabricated by the media – is cause for outrage and condemnation because the perp is a Rep and therefore by definition “evil.”
I don’t think this silly picture is a big deal, except for the fact that no Rep would ever be allowed to behave in the same manner and keep his job. It’s the double standard that’s most disgusting here.
Gilda on December 10, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Exactly. There were many moments during her campaign when she could have spoke up. I never criticized her for staying with her husband. But she was raked over the coals for that during the campaign, and she never set the record straight. She let Obama walk all over her. She thought she would win in the end and was too arrogant in her campaign.
Now, she has entered a bargain with Obama. She sold herself, and her new boss’s staff see her as a prostitute. She made her bed.
I hate this. I think it’s disgusting behavior. I think our culture is sick. The Democrats are scum.
chunderroad on December 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM
I thought it was funny. Gross and drunk-stupid, but funny.
EXACTLY. I wrote about 25 letters to various media organizations and the like for their atrocious treatment of Sarah Palin. And some I haven’t paid attention to since then.
What’s good enough for the goose should be good enough for the gander.
Back to what’s important: The car industry wasting my money and Obama’s chummy relationship with the now indicted Ill. governor totes not being a distraction!!!
mjk on December 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM
I found it notable in regard to the age of the participants. How do teenagers end up running the government?
Is my age showing :) Seriously, how old are those people?
JiangxiDad on December 10, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Really, have we become such pantywaists that we can’t tell the difference between a joke and “denigration”, “disempowerment”, and “humiliation”?
I’m not all that hyped about the incident itself, other than the outrageous hypocrisy what would ensue from the libs if that cut-out were replaced with (shudder) Michelle Obarfa and the speech writer were on Bush’s staff.
This sort of thing is ALWAYS brushed away by the left: Clinton lies and suddenly it’s healthy to lie now and then, a BJ isn’t sexual in nature, losing your temper on national tv is a good cleansing of the soul, etc. etc.
Bishop on December 10, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Looks like I’m in the minority here – from my comment in headlines:
tru2tx on December 10, 2008 at 9:19 AM
Redstatestateofmind– I think Hillary would have gotten stronger if she had walked out.
Women admire that. Now, if the divorce had turned ugly or if she looked less than noble — well, you know how the (media puppets) public is. Watch whom you slam!
Hillary never attacked him.
Juan never attacked him.
The media never attacked him.
Now, with any luck, he can speak to other nations and we will NOT need a defense department after Jan 21st 2009.
IlikedAUH2O on December 10, 2008 at 9:24 AM
If I’m going to make judgments based on what people can do, then age shouldn’t matter. William F. Buckley was quite impressive by age 27 for example.
I’m struck more by their disrespect than by their age, although there may be a correlation. Of course they regard Hillary with unbridled contempt and it’d be hard to convince me that they don’t feel the same about most of the American people.
So for me I guess the question would be more along the lines of “How do such d-bags end up running the government?”
Gilda on December 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM
All of you are right.
I summed it up here. Democrats are freaking hypocrites when it comes to women.
Rightwingsparkle on December 10, 2008 at 9:28 AM
BTW, I have articles from publications like The Atlantic Monthly predicting that his magic would bring peace. I posted a quote from one of them that (The One’s success) would make muslims pacific by Nov of 2008.
Kinda msssed that one….appeasers!
IlikedAUH2O on December 10, 2008 at 9:28 AM
It all depends on the angle you’re looking from.
Imagine if a horse started crawling around on its belly like a cockroach. You’d say, gee, that’s a horse but it’s acting quite beneath its dignity. You wouldn’t say, oh well, horses will be horses. You’d say, something’s very wrong with that horse.
Surely one or two of you on this thread understand what the problem is here?
jeff_from_mpls on December 10, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Other than a preemptive shot across the bow by Dee Dee to the Obama Administration not to try and marginalize Hillary at the State Department by holding the dagger of sexism over their heads, this is pretty much a non-starter as far as changing any attitudes within the new administration.
And even then, Obama’s already got Susan Rice in place as an alternate foreign policy adviser, which marginalizes the sex card there; and Obama knows the big media outlets aren’t going to give him or his staff grief for anything but the most outrageously egregious incidents, like goosing Helen Thomas on Air Force One (and if the incident directly involved POTUS and some sort of Clintonesque violation, Barack would have far more problems with Michelle than he ever would with the media).
jon1979 on December 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM
It may be “just a joke”… but it reveals quite a bit about the charcater and maturity level of people soon to be in substantially important position in the federal government.
Such a revelation should disqualify the “jokester” from holding any government position. I GUARANTEE you that if a picture surfaced of me enacting a similar “joke” where I work (involving someone there), my rearend would be on the street before I had a chance to even call it a “joke.”
mankai on December 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM
Bill’conduct shows us that messing with cardboard is like fondling Hillary.
Could somebody ask Michelle is she was never proud of her country since the low grade example is the best she could get for a mate?
He does nave skinny little arms and legs…ugh!
IlikedAUH2O on December 10, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Maybe this explains why BHO’s speeches are all pathetically stupid?
BTW, I thought the guy shoving the beer up her nose was the worst of the two. He’s probably BHO’s senior advisor on foreign affairs.
progressoverpeace on December 10, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
rbj on December 10, 2008 at 9:32 AM
My immediate thought as well.
Bob's Kid on December 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM
From Rightwingsparkle:
You are SOOOOO right with your observation!!
tru2tx on December 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM
slightly OT..
For someone who is born in 1973, I think Casablanca is one of the best movies ever.
DaveC on December 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Judging from a variety of factors – the picture itself, his role in the political world, the Dem party in general – I’d say it’s better than even money that he’s queer.
Not sure how that would impact DeeDee’s outrage, or even if it would. Just sayin’.
Jaibones on December 10, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I think I do. But I’m opposed in general to the the culture of perpetual outrage that destroys people’s careers over minor transgressions. Surely most of us wouldn’t want our whole lives to hang on some stupid thing we did at a drunken party when we were in our 20s.
Even though this photo reveals Favreau as a jerk and a boor I think it’s reasonable that he be given a chance to make up for it. I’m much more upset by the fact that no Republican – young, drunk, unguarded or otherwise – would ever be allowed the same chance.
Gilda on December 10, 2008 at 9:40 AM
Pantywaists? It’s not as if these two frat boys had pulled a pair of panties over Hillary’s head, is it?
Hillary’s response sounds like a thinly veiled threat to me. Surprisingly, I am inclined to agree with her.
Outraged Dee Dee would have had more credibility if she had expressed her disdain for such behavior when Sarah Palin was being abused with filthy pointed and personal attacks.
onlineanalyst on December 10, 2008 at 9:40 AM
Meanwhile, Barack had this to say about Hillery..
DaveC on December 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM
At least it’s still safe to be vulgar, exploitive and harrassingly sexist to conservative women. Selective outrage is so persuasive.
Mark30339 on December 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM
More than once I’ve been impressed with your reasoning. This time is no exception. Yet I find myself now wondering if Buckley wore his baseball cap backwards :)
JiangxiDad on December 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Good point. In the early 1950s when WFB was Favreau’s age, guys in their late 20s were considered men and had been for years. A lot of them were war veterans then too, with all the accompanying accomplishments.
These days it seems like the “man line” isn’t crossed till 35 or even later. So your comment about teenagers may very well be the more accurate. :)
Gilda on December 10, 2008 at 9:53 AM
More “attention” than Hellary has gotten in a long time, I’d wager.
Akzed on December 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Quick, somebody get me a cardboard cutout of Dee Dee Meyers!
James on December 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM
What else are they good for? …. I mean cardboard cutouts…
kirkill on December 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM
She has no shame!
Great Youtube!!!!!!
patrick neid on December 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Let me correct you. Conservatives judge women in these simplistic, playboy ways. Take a gander at the disparity between women leadership in the Democratic party vs. the Republican party. Why, in part, was Palin chosen? Because enough of the (white) male electorate would have the hots for her. There’s nothing particularly sexy about Hillary Clinton, Granholm, McCaskill, Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi (though the woman is stylin) these are powerful women in the Democratic party who have acheived great things due to their abilities, not because they are beautiful. 18 million Democratic voters cast their ballot for the very non-sexy Hillary Clinton.
It amuses me. Conservatives can do math one assumes. They have to recognize that in each election the gender gap continues to grow. Women are trending Democratic. And yet you continue to assume that it’s because women are “too stupid” to “get” how things “really work” then you will continue to lose these elections. By refusing to accept that women vote for reasons equally as rational (or irrational) as men voters you only prove the argument that conservatives are sexist.
As for dancing with the cutout. It’s a problem, but it’s a cultural problem that we are continually working on. This is no 1950s America, but we shouldn’t pretend we’re perfect.
DeathToMediaHacks on December 10, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Like the scandal in the UK which involved prostitutes and ‘Nazi’ themed S&M… ,whatever, this is the least disturbing thing I’ve read about the Democrats in a long time. So many serious things happen and are ignored while stupid drunken boorish behavior which amounts to nothing gets attention.
Beagle on December 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM
back in the college days, one of my friends got a cut out of a girl from a beer add. it was of a good looking brunette holding a beer.. what’s not to love about that.. :)
of course there are photos somewhere of us being drunken asses around the cut out..
DaveC on December 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM
You can argue with Meyer’s bona fides on this question, but I agree with her that this kind of humor is unprofessional and insulting. I’m no Hillary fan, but I don’t like seeing female politicians treated as sexual jokes. For me, this is in the same arena as the “Sarah is a c***” t-shirts (which, I will admit, took things to a much lower level).
Dee2008 on December 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM
It wasn’t worth making a federal case over, but it was tasteless and juvenile behavior for a “professional” political campaign staffer. Give them a conduct unbecoming and a lot of hours of community service. Picking up trash should teach them some humility.
scalleywag on December 10, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Yeah, its obviously a stupid joke. But if I were Obama, I’d still want my chief speechwriter to behave a little better than this in public, and also be smart enough not to get photographed doing something like this. He should have known this would be blown out of proportion.
Sir Corky on December 10, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Speaking of stupid jokes, at the end of that clip is a “related” one for all you football fans. Click here.
manwithblackhat on December 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Good one. Now, explain why liberal women helped re-elect Groper-in-Chief Billy Bob. After all, they’re obviously more enlightened, and less likely to fall for old stereotypes than conservative men.
manwithblackhat on December 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM
People should be able to act however they want in private, as long as they aren’t breaking laws (though the time is not far away when such antics will be against the law, if Myers and her ilk have their way).
The lesson to this episode is that people — and especially young people — need to get it that nothing goes unrecorded and untransmitted anymore. Nothing. That they were stupid enough to act this way on camera is a sign that they’re not as smart as they think they are.
CornFedBeauty on December 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Yup. Except these little twinkies might have their hands full if they messed with a Sarah Palin-type. She’s more man than either of them.
Jaibones on December 10, 2008 at 10:59 AM
The sweater pulled back over the shirt cuffs look is … telling.
Jaibones on December 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM
In Tina Fey’s turn on Baba Wawa’s “Ten Most Fascinating People” special last week, she seemed to bristle at the fact that her stardom is largely due to her Governor Palin impression. She looked defensive, almost as if she didn’t want to be recorded in history as the impetus of the more venomous, scurrilous attacks on Palin.
Despite her critical acclaim and accomplishments as an actress,* fact is she’s not a superstar on her own merits quite yet; Her movie Baby Mama did well considering its low budget, but wasn’t a blockbuster ($63.8 million B.O. worldwide, $30M budget, ranked #42 in 2008 as of today); Her SNL spoof series 30 Rock is a huge hit among industry insiders and took home a basket full of Emmy Awards, but has been on life support in the Nielsens since it first went on the air.
Presuming — as I am sure the showbiz crowd is doing — that Governor Palin will not return to the national stage as a serious player, I think Fey fears that unless she can parlay her fortuitous physical similarities to Palin into something completely different, those three months in 2008 may well be her crowning moment as a performer, and that it’s all downhill from Election Day.
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*I refuse to use the gender-neutral term “actor” for females until both sexes compete for one “Best Actor” trophy come award season.
L.N. Smithee on December 10, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Tina Fey also wrote the hugely succesful Mean Girls and unlike 99.9% of actors/actresses in Hollywood she got a major network to greenlight a series. That’s a stellar acheivement. I’d bristle too if someone suggested my only accompishment in a wildly succesful Hollywood career was due to Sarah Palin. I don’t think people realize the number of people in tinseltown who were trying to get what Tina Fey had BEFORE the election.
And as for the “scurrilous” attacks. Fey has an excellent point. No one said that Will Ferrell was being “mean” to George Bush and those skits were 100% fiction. In many instances Fey merely took things Palin had said and sligtly altered them. Was it mean because it was so devastatingly accurate, whereas Ferrell’s Bush was just funny because he acted a general buffoon? The double standard is out there, but among conservatives it’s the audacious claim that Palin is too weak to handle what happens to ALL national politicians when they screw up. People laugh at them mercilessly.
DeathToMediaHacks on December 10, 2008 at 11:35 AM
There’s whole subgroup here that fits this description and yet berates the heck out of those of us who make the same observation as your illustration.
My conclusion is that they do not care what they look like as long as they can compel the rest of us to ignore the negative aspects.
platypus on December 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM
I can’t comment–without grossly and inappropriately objectifying Dee Dee Myers.
urbancenturion on December 10, 2008 at 11:38 AM
I can’t really speak for why women did not see Bill Clinton as sexist. It could be because his cabinet was stacked with important women, Madeline Albright and Janet Reno, for example. Conservatives have such a limited view of what women voters can be. Because conservatives think all women want to get married, they don’t understand why they would vote for someone who has such a cavalier attitude about hismarriage vows. Or rather, why they’d care more about the symbolism of Albright as Sec of State than they would the symbolism of Bill Clinton being a philanderer (a powerful philandering man, shocker).
I don’t knwo how Bill would have done with women post Monica. Because Monica represents a workplace sexual harassment, we won’t ever really know.
DeathToMediaHacks on December 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Well, not quite. The writers did the “slightly altered” part and Fey merely delivered the lines. She did her job very well (even Sarah thought she was funny) but it isn’t “her” production alone. Just like the song “Barracuda” isn’t solely Ann and Nancy Wilson’s song just because they performed it.
There was a SNL skit from years ago about this phenomenon of image versus work. It was a secretary being fawned over at a party as if they were at the pinnacle of social achievement.
platypus on December 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Myers used to be a hot piece of tail. Is that sexist? I’m not sure since objectifying Palin seemed to be OK on a national level. Obama, the media, Hollywood. All of them seemed to say, “Hey it is OK to go all sexist on Palin since she is a Republican.”
grdred944 on December 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Short version
Sometimes people forget that video tape has been invented and it remembers.
Long version here.
petertheslow on December 10, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Dee Dee “Wrong Way Down A One-Way Street” Myers is a tool.
D2Boston on December 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Madeline Albright came on in the second term..
as ambassador to the UN during the first Clinton Term.. not that much of a high profile job..
only way that The Stache, Bolton, was so high profile is because of the politicking that went on with his nomination
DaveC on December 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
DeathToMediaHacks wrote:
I’m sure when you wrote “People laugh at them mercilessly” I’m sure you mean you meant to add “with the exception of Barack Obama.” Maybe you’ve forgotten this, but shortly after he announced he was running for President, he made a beeline to NYT columnist Maureen Dowd, the Palin-hater who co-wrote Vanity Fair’s Fey cover story. His message: He didn’t appreciate Dowd talking about his big ears.
While every senility and incontinence snark written since the vaudeville era was revived for John McCain, I don’t recall any such “mercilessness” when it came to The One. With the exception of a few jabs when people treated him too much like a heaven-sent conquering hero, ten-foot poles went unused, and are still gathering dust. Joe Biden got some knocks, but nothing like that gaffe machine deserved, and nothing like the schtuff they piled on Palin.
And while Palin got the “slightly altered” treatment, Nancy Pelosi — who in reality is the bimbo they portray Palin as — is played straight down the middle. I dare you to read Pelosi’s words verbatim with a Fey-as-Palin accent and tell me that she’s not MORE deserving of Palin’s public image.
Of course, if you’ve got some examples of Hollywood types giving Obama the kind of shots fired at Palin, feel free to link the YouTube videos. We’ll compare hit numbers.
L.N. Smithee on December 10, 2008 at 12:26 PM
So, let’s recap. Conservatives don’t understand why liberals would support a man who cheats on his wife and lies about it publicly when caught, given their predisposed attitude that all women want to be married.
This makes even less sense than your first statement. I’m gonna have to take the afternoon off just to find a causal relationship here.
manwithblackhat on December 10, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Of course it is hypocritical for Myers to be offended by the same sexist behavior/thinking she and the rest of the left had no issue with when it was directed toward Gov Palin.
And yes the actual behavior by Favreau was stupid juvenile anctics more appropriate to a drunken frat boy than to someone who works for the President -Elect.
But regardless – it is not justifiable and people who think it not funny don’t deserve to be dismissed as lacking a sense of humor. Things stop being funny when it is your own ox being gored. I doubt that much interracial humor is so quickly dismissed as “just a joke” – rather even innocent comments get called racist immediately.
Would people have thought it funny if it had been Hillary kneeing a cardboard figure of young speechwriter in the crotch? No it would have been unprofessional and stupid – why isn’t what the guy did just as inappropriate?
If you want to be a player in the grownup world you probably should act like one.
katiejane on December 10, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Wait, what? Where do you get that from? Is there a single scrap of evidence to back that up? Sure, Palin is attractive compared to a lot of politicians, but if you didn’t know who she was, you wouldn’t look twice if she passed you in the mall with her family. I don’t understand the sexualization that so many of her opponents bring into their arguments.
It wasn’t conservatives taking upskirt photos of Palin, it was the liberal, supposedly professional, photographers of Reuters and the AP.
Despite what the Palin-bashers say, it’s not her pulchritude that attracts conservatives – it’s her record and her upbeat, can-do attitude. Check this quote from a woman who attended Palin’s open house:
Jim62sch on December 10, 2008 at 1:14 PM
ed, i agree with your premise that myers’ outrage is hypocritical given her position in the clinton administration, but this:
is way off. it may be meant as a joke but why the sexual objectification? it’s to humiliate and to take her down a few notches like only a sexist act or remark can do. as a woman in corporate america, i’m not saying you’re surrounded by this everyday, but it’s definitely present and it’s meant to “cut you down” a bit.
anna on December 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Who are you kidding with this twaddle. Liberal women like liberal men would vote for the devil himself if it meant keeping political power. This moronic posturing in all your posts is laughable.
Never forget that Bill “blue dress” Clinton was accused of rape on national TV and as the spokesperson for NOW quipped, thank god for the statute of limitations. Clinton is the most reprehensible misogynist that has ever stalked the White House. The women that voted for him told the world everything we needed to know.
You are the person with the hangup about women. Palin, who came out of nowhere, showed up because of her accomplishments. The fact that she was attractive was a coincidence. You have not a clue about a Margaret Thatcher and her attraction to conservative men.
The reason that most liberal women are ugly has nothing to do with their bodies, if it does its a coincidence.
patrick neid on December 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Wait a minute! I just read the VF article. So this guy isn’t just some schlep at a campaign volunteer’s pizza party? He is one of The One’s top speechwriters? If that is the case, then I think Dee Dee – however hollow her outrage – has a good point. Sorry, but I think The One should send this dude packing.
gxpgxp on December 10, 2008 at 9:18 PM
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