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Dorvillian on December 8, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Sorry about that.

Call me crazy but…

Looking back it seems that McCain never really wanted to win this thing — notagool on December 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM

Yeah, I got that impression, too.

He lost.

Hope he rides into the sunset with Lindsay Graham and they are never heard from again.

Then, I woke up.

John McCain. Please go away.

“Country first”, then “Obama’s a socialist”, then “Unrepentant Terrorist”, etc.

He is a piss-poor product that was marketed by fools.

Let’s get back to the point of the post. This was a killer ad. I think it hit the mark, spot on.

I don’t think it was hard enough. The problem with McCain was he was running a “whisper” campaign of the 1950’s. This was configured for little old ladies who met in tea parlors and spread the rumor mill gossip. Today with the Internet, any rumor is debunked, or minimized because the Hive-think of the opposition takes the bite out of the accusation. Plus the media was debunking ANYTHING McCain shot across the USS Obama’s Bow. By the time it got close to Obama it was a fizzling gunpowder burst at most.

McCain needed to run as McCain and not the alternative to Obama.

It was the 18-29 internet generation that screwed America.

cannonball on December 8, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Not really. Young voters turned out in the same numbers as for the 2004 election.

This election was the O.J. Simpson trial on a national scale…had nothing to do with the facts or the truth.

Let’s roll.

ex-Democrat on December 8, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Not really. Blacks have historically voted 90% for Democrats. Obama got 95% this time, that extra 5% was NOT the difference in this election. It was the 18-29 internet generation that screwed America.

Sarah Palin’s speech was all sorts of awesome. On the other hand, I don’t remember Barry’s weak offering.

I remember Obama giving some sort of speech the night before Sarah Palin came out and rained on his parade the next day. Do you remember where you were when Sarah Palin was announced the VP spot? I was out work, I actually had a lady at work who was a HUGE Nobama supporter cry because Palin was picked. All that morning she was slamming crap around at her desk. Then we watched Palin’s intro speech that morning in Ohio and she started balling again!! Best day at work EVER. Worst day at work? Nov.5th.

The GOP needs to get more positive in presenting “role of government” issues and showing people why they should vote Republican and stop the “why you shouldn’t vote Democrat” angle. You need candidates and campaigns with forward vision. Knock out the social policy crap and start with basics … getting government off the backs of the people.

I say yes to all.

Illinidiva on December 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Sounds like you’re saying they were playing with matches and claim they didn’t know they could start a fire so they’re not responsible for the outcome. How freaking pathetic and childish, if true.

McCain’s campaign was like the team that suprises everyone (including themselves) and makes it to the Super Bowl, only to be blown out in the big game. The one positive move he made (selecting Sarah Palin) apparently had internal opposition. She was moving the campaign forward, generating energy and excitement, until the media unleashed on her with lies and desceptive reporting.

jerseyman on December 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Agreed… One of the issues was that the McCain campaign was shocked that they won and didn’t know what to do afterward. I think that Salter, Davis, and company were hoping for McCain to finish a respectable second in New Hampshire, so that their guy could bow out with honor and they were as shocked as anyone when he won.

Giuliani’s blunder was to skip the first few states in the primaries because he didn’t think he’d do well in them-but of course that meant he lost out on chance to build the momentum necessary to win other states.

Recall that before the primaries began Giuliani was expected to become the nominee and was the most popular candidate. He simply made a rookie error and blew his chances. I think he’d have had a good shot had he simply kept himself in the running-it wouldn’t be fair to generalize on his abilities over a goof-up like that. Its a case of a smart person making a dumb mistake.

I’ve heard he might try again in 2012-if he screws that up to, then I’ll agree with you that he doesn’t have the skills to lead/win. :)

thinkagain on December 8, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Rudy Giuliani is an experienced politician who sunk due to severe tactical errors as well as his messy personal life. Competing in one state was an incredibly stupid idea, and he paid for it. Whose to say that if he had somehow won the Republican nomination that he wouldn’t have made enough mistakes to make McCain’s campaign look like a model organization?

McCain’s campaign was like the team that suprises everyone (including themselves) and makes it to the Super Bowl, only to be blown out in the big game. The one positive move he made (selecting Sarah Palin) apparently had internal opposition. She was moving the campaign forward, generating energy and excitement, until the media unleashed on her with lies and desceptive reporting.

jerseyman on December 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM

1999 Atlanta Falcons. Book it.

Beat the best Minnesota Vikings team I’ve ever seen AT minnesota, and maybe oneof the best offensive juggernauts ever (minn was 15-1 that year)

who’s minnesota then?

HUCKABEE?? FRED!??? DUNCAN HUNTER???

That said, the speeches at the GOP convention were awfully weak. There was no moment like the one provided to Obama at the 2004 Dem convention.

jay12 on December 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I don’t know what convention you were watching… Sarah Palin’s speech was all sorts of awesome. On the other hand, I don’t remember Barry’s weak offering.

That said, the speeches at the GOP convention were awfully weak. There was no moment like the one provided to Obama at the 2004 Dem convention.

jay12 on December 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM

i would think Drill baby drill and M Steele were loads better than obama’s “there is no red america and no blue america there is a united states of america”

dude i heard that like 1,000 times from november 2000 until 2004.

people act like he’s a great speaker (obama)…. name me one line of his that wasn’t already in the public vernacular

Giuliani did an awful job in the primary, so I highly doubt that he would have been a good general election candidate.

Illinidiva on December 8, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Giuliani’s blunder was to skip the first few states in the primaries because he didn’t think he’d do well in them-but of course that meant he lost out on chance to build the momentum necessary to win other states.

Recall that before the primaries began Giuliani was expected to become the nominee and was the most popular candidate. He simply made a rookie error and blew his chances. I think he’d have had a good shot had he simply kept himself in the running-it wouldn’t be fair to generalize on his abilities over a goof-up like that. Its a case of a smart person making a dumb mistake.

I’ve heard he might try again in 2012-if he screws that up to, then I’ll agree with you that he doesn’t have the skills to lead/win. :)

then prove it, jay12.

wise_man on December 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Why?