KSM, other 9/11 plotters tell Gitmo court they’re ready to confess
posted at 3:55 pm on December 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Actually, he’s already confessed — to 9/11 and so much more — but now he’s ready to do it at his trial so that military prosecutors won’t have to dally with proof. He’s begging for martyrdom, in other words. Should we give it to him? We go through this every few months so let’s go through it again. From my last post on the subject:
Here’s a useful rule of thumb to help you decide, in bien pensant fashion, what does and doesn’t constitute a jihadist propaganda victory as the process goes forward. Executing this pig as he so richly deserves is a jihadist propaganda victory because it grants him the martyrdom he seeks, even though we happily run that same risk every time we fire a Predator missile at a safe house in the Pakistani tribal areas. Giving this pig a forum as plum as a trial in which to rant, curse the United States, sing hosannas to Allah, and hold forth on Israel and whatever else is on his mind is not a jihadist propaganda victory because, well, that’s just justice.
Do note: Contrary to popular belief, being locked away in the Great Satan’s prison system also qualifies as martyrdom. Rusty makes that point today vis-a-vis not only KSM but “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdul Rahman, the “spiritual leader” of the 1993 WTC bombers who’s doing life at Supermax. I’ve given you specific examples in the past of Al Qaeda propaganda name-checking him for inspiration, including one of the 9/11 hijackers in his video will. These turds are already “martyrs”; the only question is whether you want to flush them or not.
Actually, that’s not the only question:
If the judge accepts guilty pleas, the ability of the Obama administration to transfer this case to federal court would be nearly impossible because the legal principle of jeopardy would attach, according to Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. That could mean the new administration may have to oversee an execution resulting from a process that many Obama supporters and legal advisers regard as deeply flawed.
“It is absurd to accept a guilty plea from people who were tortured and waterboarded,” said Romero, who is at Guantanamo to observe the proceeding…
A guilty plea, however, could shield the Obama administration from what some legal experts view as potentially hazardous proceedings in federal court, where evidence obtained by torture or coercive interrogation would not be admitted. While legal analysts believe Mohammed and his co-conspirators would be convicted of terrorist offenses, the ability to obtain a capital conviction may have been undermined by the taint of torture.
Why does WaPo assume Obama wants them tried in federal court? The left wants them tried in federal court, but as we’re learning to our great satisfaction every day, what the the left wants and what The One wants are two different things. He specifically said this past summer that we don’t have to try them with all the trimmings, that a military facility and the UCMJ would be good enough. Exit question: Will he accept the inevitable guilty pleas or not?
Update: To illustrate the point I made in the last paragraph, guess which Bush agency head Obama’s now considering holding over. Guess.
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The real question is whether we give a rats ass about who gets a propaganda ‘victory’? That victory is in the eye of the beholder. The true victory is some sort of justice for those who lost lives and property on 9/11/2001.
grdred944 on December 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Death penalty opponents often argue that a lifetime in prison without the possibility of parole can be a worse punishment than the death penalty.
Following such reasoning, I say: far be it from the United States of America to impose a harsher sentence than the murderers deserve. We should give them the more merciful sentence — death.
aunursa on December 8, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Much as these swine deserve death, letting them rot away year after year in a Supermax-equivalent strikes me as a better deterrent to future jihadists. Yeah, they will still be called martyrs, but it doesn’t have the heroic impact that being executed does.
After all, if they want to die gloriously, why should we accommodate them?
Realist on December 8, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Executing KSM will ensure that no AQ types will hijack a plane or anything and try to ransom people for him. It won’t work, but I’d rather not have anyone get hurt in the attempt.
rbj on December 8, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Detention at Gitmo doesn’t work! Just ask these guys. Obama is soooooo naive.
marklmail on December 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Ever notice that death penalty opponents are BIG pro-abortion proponents?
Protect the guilty and punish the innocent!
…and let the terrorists have their 72 mothers-in-law.
perroviejo on December 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM
That’s how I see it and thus feel that if these guys don’t get the death penalty that no one else should either.
Esthier on December 8, 2008 at 4:04 PM
O/T F-18 Airforce jet crashes in residential area in Miramar!
canopfor on December 8, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Ted Bundy quit escaping from jail and killing women the minute he was executed.
perroviejo on December 8, 2008 at 4:07 PM
KSM reminds me of the ‘time to make the donuts’ guy. (RIP 12/27/05 Michael Vale)
Brat on December 8, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Fixed it for ‘ya, sparky……………..
Seven Percent Solution on December 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Execute him… and bury him with a ham sandwitch.
crazy_legs on December 8, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Boo-frickin’-hoo
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In general, I don’t support the death penalty. I also feel that law-abiding citizens should be armed and capable of instituting their own “preventative measures.” That being said, what this monster did is so reprehensible that the death penalty is the only course of action. His victims did not have a chance to defend themselves. It was the epitome of cowardice. Applying the death penalty won’t bring back our countrymen…it won’t deter other jihadis. It WILL prevent this monster from living off my tax money any longer.
LarryinVA on December 8, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Give the rat bastard a slow and painful death, like staking him to a fire ant hill! No lethal injection unless of course someone forgets to hook up the sedative part of the lethal injection so he’s fully awake and can experience the full pain of the drug that stops his heart, I’d be ok with that!
Liberty or Death on December 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM
to the gallows with them
blatantblue on December 8, 2008 at 4:21 PM
anyone watch part of HBO “House of Saddam” last night? they are whitewashing the full story as to be expected.
not that Saddam has anything to do with KSM and 9/11 in anyway whatsover of course, as we’ve been told repeatedly for years now.
jp on December 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I say we have him renditioned to a clinic in Sweden for gender reassignment surgery, then arrange a marriage for him (her?) to well endowed Shia peasant with a violent temper.
okay, okay, a simple firing squad will do.
trubble on December 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM
I think we can tie ourselves in knots trying to 2nd guess the psychological/propaganda implications of executing one of the worst of the worse. If we don’t execute KSM, who do we execute? Does everyone then get a pass then? KSM is also said to have confessed to Danny Pearl’s murder.
He deserves to be executed and it would be justice. The fact is, no previously moderate Muslim is going to be so enraged by KSM’s execution to suddenly be radicalized enough to take up arms. Only those already drinking the koolaid are going to be upset enough to use his death as a rallying cry for murder, which they were willing to do anyway. Moreover, failure to kill him shows weakness and sends the wrong message at a time when we should be displaying strenth.
Moving the case to federal court is a disaster in the making and for all of the obvious reasons.
Execute the pig and let the chips fall where they may.
moxie_neanderthal on December 8, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Forget waterboarding; the forced back hair waxing probably did it.
RobCon on December 8, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Flush that stinking floater now
LimeyGeek on December 8, 2008 at 4:26 PM
As long as they don’t waterboard him in the courtroom I guess there’s no problem with his admission of guilt, is there Romero?
BacaDog on December 8, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Curious thing, so few of the top dogs have seen fit to martyr themselves while imploring others to do just that.
What is good for thee is not for me.
moxie_neanderthal on December 8, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Give him life sentence working at a pig farm.
A fate worse than death for those animals
Burgher on December 8, 2008 at 4:32 PM
No Freakin Way !!!
The collective left is going to go into convulsions.
BadgerHawk on December 8, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Slightly OT:
Remember when all those morons on the left coast were waterboarding each other to show how terrible it was??
Ahhh….good times.
BacaDog on December 8, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Martyrs
pseudonominus on December 8, 2008 at 4:43 PM
I’ve long held that the Morton Downey Jr idea of creating the District of Scumbia out in the middle of the desert is the way to go. Let them kill each other, eat each other and tell them the survivor gets a reward. That reward of course will be the 80 some odd virgins waiting for them after they are shot on sight for leaving the District of Scumbia.
grdred944 on December 8, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Cruelty to pigs.
unclesmrgol on December 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Execute him, bury the corpse in an unmarked pit and be done with it.
irongrampa on December 8, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Feed him to the Hogs.
ronsfi on December 8, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Aren’t we supposed to give in to muslims and specially muslim terrorists?
What has changed ?
macncheez on December 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I’m sure there are dozens of ways to desecrate a corpse from a Muslim point of view. For example, pack it in a coffin with a pig’s carcass for a week, then ship the box home for burial. When the Imam opens up the casket to ritually clean the body, pandemonium will ensue. Do this and, martyrdom or not, it will be a deterrent for other terrorists.
Kafir on December 8, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Get on with the hangings.
Johan Klaus on December 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
If they plead guilty, let them be executed while Bush is still in office. If that offends some Muslims, Obama can blame Bush and wash his hands of the issue, like Pontius Pilate.
Even if they become martyrs, memory of them will fade, but if they are allowed to rant in a court inside the United States, they will continue to inflame others with their propaganda. Give them their well-deserved 72 virgins from he!!.
Steve Z on December 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
And hang them with a pigs intestine.
Johan Klaus on December 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
That’s cruelty for lunch meat.
I say, let him loose in Brooklyn at around midnight, say, during a block party full of NYPD and NYFD.
HornetSting on December 8, 2008 at 5:53 PM
It’s not like we can’t win the propaganda war.
Exectue him and report an 11th hour conversion. Finish with Christian burial and a cross tombstone.
TexasDan on December 8, 2008 at 5:53 PM
However he eventually dies, we should be sure to wrap his body in a pig carcass when it is buried. Moslems believe that will insure he never goes to paradise.
This is a simple but effective deterent.
The British used a similar tactic in India in the 1800s, to good effect.
ksm on December 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Oh God, think I just did a Lewinsky in my pants!
ThePrez on December 8, 2008 at 6:16 PM
I’m tired of hearing about the “taint of torture.” I don’t give a damn if we have to skin these people alive as long we get the information we need out of them.
jonezee on December 8, 2008 at 6:25 PM
With CAIR , and other political fronts for muslim terrorists celebrating the coronation of the(ir) One , this comes just in time
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/obama-asked-to-inquire-into-prohindu-group…/395732/
macncheez on December 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Exactly what I was thinking when I read that liberal drivel.
This is another example of the ignorance of liberals when it comes to who the enemy really is:
Remembering Pearl Harbor
(via little green footballs)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32104_Remembering_Pearl_Harbor
You can imagine this guy standing there while his wife(or husband,not that there’s anything wrong with that)is being raped and apologizing to the perpetrator for Bush’s tax cuts
keeping him from making enough money to afford hookers.
Liberals are scary stupid.
Baxter Greene on December 8, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Let them plead guilty in military court, and shoot them before January 20th.
profitsbeard on December 8, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Bingo. People seem to over-think the easy questions sometimes.
holygoat on December 8, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Hang ‘em!
GarandFan on December 8, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Why even entertain thoughts of paying to keep these killers alive, well fed, and with full access to any and all medical treatment?…Let them confess, accept the confession, and then hand a machette to Berg’s family.
Gohawgs on December 8, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Just make sure they get a goodbye kiss from this person before they meet their 72 virgins
http://calebgo.com/graphics/Rosie_Osama.bmp
macncheez on December 8, 2008 at 8:35 PM
macncheez on December 8, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I could go for paying to keep them alive IF she was their rotating bunkmate…
Gohawgs on December 8, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Stick a cattle prod up his bung and slowly increase the voltage until his intestines slow roast like a brat, then chop him into soylent green and feed his carcass to the swine. Allah Akbar indeed, bottom feeder.
GlocknRoll on December 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM
That will be too easy on the tough guy.
For KSM, here is what I suggest:
Have him do this in a similar outfit, make a DVD and sell it outside mosques all over USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eidpOdDX8Qg
macncheez on December 9, 2008 at 1:13 AM
He’s ready to plead guilty to what they’re charging him with after ONLY 7 YEARS of torture?
A confession from a tortured man means nothing.
It is barbaric to torture human beings.
As for the maryrdom…..only if he is INNOCENT is he a martyr…if he is guilty he is not a martyr but a murderer.
SaintOlaf on December 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM
macncheez on December 9, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Can’t get enuf of Beyonce…
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7 years of torture, is that like “7 years of college down the drain”?
He was reportedly ‘water boarded’ after his capture. For most of the intervening time, he has been eating lemon chicken and playing soccer in the Caribbean under the watchful eye of the Red Cross and the U.S. Military.
BARBARIC is slowly cutting a man’s head off with a large knife while video taping same.
Gohawgs on December 9, 2008 at 6:37 PM
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