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By: oakpack

oakpack — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:48:41 +0000

I had the oppertunity to visit Pearl Harbor a month ago and was overwhelmed at being there with those brave Americans. Being born in the 50s I’ve grown up watching all the news clips and movies (Tora Tora Tora my favorite) and was taken off guard of just how moving being there is. I’m not a guy that is easily swept up in emotions, buy I could not help but shed a tear or two at actually being in their presence.
If you have the chance to visit the islands, take the time to experience the incredible history of Pearl Harbor. There are even survivors that are usually there to talk to people visiting.
This was spiritual moment hard to describe.

By: Liberty or Death

Liberty or Death — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:41:51 +0000

I love how if you go to msn.com they have a link that forwards the conspiracy theory that FDR knew Pearl Harbor and did nothing.

Stay Classy, MSN. Stay classy.

watchmen on December 7, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Well according to John “Mellon-Head” it’s possible the attack on Pearl Harbor didn’t happen because he wasn’t there and therefore he cannot say if the attack did or did not occur!

I’ll never get over that interview with John Menstrual-Cramp, the ego he must have to even suggest it’s possible the attack could not have happened because he wasn’t there to witness it just goes to prove how delusional lefty celebs are!

By: Count to 10

Count to 10 — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:41:02 +0000

No, the definition of coward has nothing to do with taking an enemy by surprise or war declarations. At the very least, to be called cowards they’d have to be afraid and they were far from afraid. Same with Islamists.

Darth Executor on December 8, 2008 at 11:00 AM

After their “glorious victory,” the Japanese fleet didn’t stick around to complete their mission–to sink the US carriers. At least one officer was more afraid of loosing the honor of his effortless victory than taking the risks necessary to finish the plan.

As for the Islamists, suicide missions can be seen as cowardice: they believe it is a shortcut to paradise, where they do not have to deal with the consequences of their actions. The mindset has a way of turning our definitions on their head.

By: Count to 10

Count to 10 — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:34:46 +0000

Tora! Tora! Tora! was in color.

Oldnuke on December 7, 2008 at 5:28 PM

On this day as on many others, I f

*headslap*
…removing all doubt and all of that…
Me and my Swiss cheese memory.

By: Darth Executor

Darth Executor — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:00:00 +0000

Attacking someone you aren’t at war with, is the very definition of cowardly.

MarkTheGreat on December 8, 2008 at 8:34 AM

No, the definition of coward has nothing to do with taking an enemy by surprise or war declarations. At the very least, to be called cowards they’d have to be afraid and they were far from afraid. Same with Islamists.

By: Bogeyfre

Bogeyfre — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:12:47 +0000

Visited Pearl Harbor 10 years ago. The memorial is stunning. If you go, and any who can should, seek out and spend some time with the vets that volunteer their time there. They are survivors of the attack. My wife and I saw the movie, took the boat ride to the memorial, wandered around the museum then came upon a vet and spent the next 2 hours talking to him. I completely lost track of time and what started out as my wife and I grew to a group of 15 people standing and listening to him.

He was from Ohio and said that after he retired he had to come back to Pearl Harbor. This is where he wanted to live out his life, with the buddies he lost that day. I know it sounds like a sob story but it’s not. At 80 years old he moved slow but his mind was sharp, his eyes bright, and his voice was strong. There was no sorrow in his stories. What I heard was duty, honor and pride.

Go, talk to them, there are precious few left…..

By: J.J. Sefton

J.J. Sefton — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:29:47 +0000

J.J. Sefton on December 8, 2008 at 6:40 AM

Was the Nevada the ship they ran aground intentionally to prevent it from sinking?

forest on December 8, 2008 at 7:37 AM

Yes, that was the Nevada. It got underway and was making for open water. Japanese Kate torpedo bombers put several fish into her. The captain knew that if she sank, she’d block the harbor for weeks or months so he ran her aground. One thing that my girlfriend’s dad always said was that when they abandoned ship if you jumped on the port side you lived, starboard you died.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:29:30 +0000

Christine – I’m not so sure I’d call the attack on PH as cowardly but it certainly was a knife in the back of the US while the Japanese diplomats were in Washington negotiating peace. After all, Admiral Yamamoto, who planned the attack didnt want to go to war with the US. He said Japan would awaken a sleeping giant and come to regret it.
But, sneak attacks, ambushes, etc are part of military tactics. You’re only PC if you tell the enemy you are coming, like we tried to do in Iraq. And the Japanese soldiers and kamakazi pilots were tenacious fighters, and could be called anything but cowards.
In some respects, I see the 9/11 attacks in a similar light. Were the terrorists cowards because they killed themselves while killing innocent Americans? Misguided and lied to, certainly, but I’m not sure about cowardly. A coward would not risk his life for what he believed in, however right or wrong his cause is. We tend to attach the coward label to those whom we know are supporting an evil cause. Please understand, I’m not defending the despicable terrorists. But as one poster said, I think “coward” is overused today, much like “Nazi.”
I have a question: Could an American Marine or Army sniper be considered cowards? They are trained to kill from a long way off.
During the Kosovo battle, Coleman Carthy, a leftist, anti-America columnist for the Washington Compost, called our pilots cowards because they dropped their bomb loads from 30,000 feet and took off for home. But Coleman is the coward because he hid behind his newspaper. He dare not accuse an American pilot of cowardice to his face.
And who was the liberal who accused McCain of cowardice because he bombed Hanoi from 10,000 feet, then skedaddled back to the carrier? I dont remember his name. I think in many cases cowardice is in the eye of the accuser.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:02:20 +0000

When I was growing up in the 50’s and 60’s, there were a lot of WWII vets in our community. They were my heroes, and I had lots of questions for them, but none if them wanted to talk about it. Some would kind of just smile and look away, others just wouldnt talk. I found out one man in my community was in the Bataan Death March, spent the war in a Japanese POW camp. But he never talked about it. The only thing he ever said was he was convinced he would never get back here.

My own uncle was killed in the war, on Okinawa I think, my dad was in the army but was never sent over. Dad never talked about his brother’s death and would never answer questions about it. Today at almost 60 years old, I do not know how that brave man died.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:56:57 +0000

Has President-Elect Obama apologized for Hiroshima yet? I’m sure it’s coming any time now. Kensington on December 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM

No but his former paster Wright condemned us for it again this weekend.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:53:02 +0000

Back on Veteran’s Day weekend TMC ran one of my favorite movies – 30 Seconds Over Tokyo. This movie is about Col. Jimmie Doolittle taking the fight to the enemy homeland, having the titanium spine to bomb the war plants that were in the residential districts of the target cities.
My favorite scene from that movie is when the bombers are all spotted on the flight deck preparing for takeoff, the engines revved beyond max, the nose of the bombers pushing down on the nose-gear, straining and wanting to fly. They were ready, as were the young crews aboard, all volunteers. I shed a tear in admiration for them.
And I dont believe that today the leadership of this country, nor the people who have been deceived by the traitorous media, have the spine that the WWII leadership had to win a dirty and bloody war. America was in a fight for her life and every body knew it. We are in another fight for life today, but nobody including our leadership seems to know or care. We will fight this politically correct war, garner the love of all the nations that hate us, and we will lose in the end.
Doolittle must be spinning in his grave.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:34:02 +0000

Was Japan a fascist aggressor? Yes. Were they evil? Yes. Were they deserving of everything that happened to them afterward? Yes. But were they cowardly? No.

irishspy on December 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Attacking someone you aren’t at war with, is the very definition of cowardly. Had that attack come after a declaration of war, you comments would have had merit.

By: forest

forest — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:37:13 +0000

J.J. Sefton on December 8, 2008 at 6:40 AM

Was the Nevada the ship they ran aground intentionally to prevent it from sinking?

By: Grafted

Grafted — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:09:59 +0000

We went to war within hours of the attack. Those were the days! Our violent response made peace possible. I shudder to think how fast Obama would (or will) simply roll over and take it next time it happens.

By: J.J. Sefton

J.J. Sefton — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:40:09 +0000

My girlfriend’s dad was aboard the Nevada when the Japs attacked. He was always interviewed by local radio and newspapers on subsequent Pearl Harbor Days and although I’ve never met him (he passed away about 10 years ago) I have heard tapes of him recounting what happened that day. Sadly, my girlfriend is ultra liberal and all she understands is that war is evil, and is a moral relativist and equivocator. Oh well.

In honor and memory of him, as well as my uncle who was killed in action on Saipan 7/1/44 (K Company, 105th Inf., 27th Infantry Div.) and all of those who served, God bless you and God bless America.

By: DarkCurrent

DarkCurrent — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:30:55 +0000

My grandfather was stationed at Kaneohe Naval Air Station on the day of the attack. This was one of the first if not first targets struck by the Japanese as they came in from the north.

He survived the war and finally retired from the Navy in the mid-60s, returning to Kaneohe where he passed away in 2001 at the age of 84.

By: herself

herself — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:17:37 +0000

“If you have not read William Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, I’d recommend it for today’s reading.”

Thanks for the chuckle. It indeed a must read. But if it only takes you one day you have not done the book justice. It is long. It is detailed. And it is amazingly eye opening.
I first encountered it as a teenager in the late 50s. It took me a couple weeks to get through the whole thing cover to cover what with other pressing commitments in the way such as homework for a very demanding school. Three weekends later I’d read it. And I do not, even 45+ years later, regret in the least reading it.

And with the current election and Obama’s rhetoric I am having flashbacks to that reading.

{o.o}

By: Blake

Blake — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:32:43 +0000

And now for a completely different point of view... The comments are hilariously scornful.

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By: Kane

Kane — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:14:59 +0000

My Great Grandfather was in the theatre with me Great Grandmother at the time, it was his birthday. He was also in the army. He received word of it right there, in the theatre.

Even though I never did have the honor of meeting him I have heard much of his service. God Bless our Veterans, both living and passed.

By: Johan Klaus

Johan Klaus — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:40:54 +0000

Yes. But were they cowardly? No.

irishspy on December 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM

WRONG!

By: blatantblue

blatantblue — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:29:17 +0000

Rest in peace.

The men of that generation provide my generation with something to imitate, something to be inspired by

we arent all pot smoking myspace using drug addled spell checking morons

to some of us pearl harbor means something! this drink is to all of them!
rest in peace!

By: Bobnormal

Bobnormal — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:45:59 +0000

My grandfather,Ronald Arthur Lozonne was there on the tender Hawaii. His ship died of fright docked next to the Arizona,
Still alive. God Bless him ,
Bob