Rice: Mumbai attacks involvement “on Pakistani soil”; Update: Indian involvement, too?
posted at 11:55 am on December 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Condoleezza Rice increased the pressure on the Yousef Gilani government in Pakistan by telling Fox News Sunday that evidence showed that the Mumbai attacks involved groups in Pakistan. The outgoing Secretary of State said no evidence showed any involvement by state organs in the terrorist rampage that killed almost 200 people, which Islamabad will welcome. Still, Rice made it clear that the US expects Pakistan to exercise control over its territory and eliminate the people responsible:
In an appearance on Fox News Sunday, Rice said “the government of Pakistan very much wants to do the right thing because they understand that even if these were non-state actors, which I believe they were, non-state actors operating on Pakistani soil, it is still Pakistan’s responsibility to respond.”
“The investigation is still ongoing,” Rice added. “Pakistan needs to cooperate transparently. They’ve said that they will. Clearly there are organizations that operatives with longstanding involvement in this kind of activity [in Pakistan].”
Rice would not comment on whether the Bush administration, with only six weeks left in office, believes Pakistan should turn over anyone suspected of involvement in the attacks to Indian authorities. Indian officials have made that request.
“I think the important thing is that Pakistan has to act and these people are brought to justice, and that any information that they may have be put to use in making sure follow-on attacks don’t happen,” Rice said. “There’s not a timetable involved here.
Rice underscored the American interest in the issue. Six of the dead were Americans, and clearly the terrorists plotted their targets to kill Westerners at the least and likely wanted to net as many Americans as they could. They also targeted a Chabad center in order to kill Jews, and Israel has also been vocal about the need for rapid enforcement on the part of Pakistan.
As far as I know, this is the first time that the US has publicly taken the position that the attacks originated in Pakistan. Rice noted that Pakistan remains our ally, but explicitly demanded action from the Gilani government. That statement puts pressure on Pakistan and makes it more difficult for them to rebut the same charges from India with denials and counterallegations.
We need to keep the pressure on Islamabad. The Gilani government has to find ways to act against the terrorists that have built havens on their territory. If they want the world to respect their sovereignty, they’d better start enforcing it themselves.
Update: Looks like India may need to do the same thing:
India was today grappling with the possibility that one of its own undercover operatives helped equip the Islamist extremists who attacked Mumbai, killing more than 170 people.
Police in Indian-controlled Kashmir today demanded the release of one of their undercover agents after he was arrested by police in Delhi for allegedly supplying a mobile SIM card used by the Mumbai gunmen.
Mukhtar Ahmed, 35, originally from Indian-controlled Kashmir, was detained on Friday in Delhi. He is being held with another man, Tauseef Rehman, 26, who was arrested in his home city of Calcutta on the same day. …
The arrests of the two men also provided the first indication that the Indian authorities, who have so far insisted that the Mumbai attacks were planned in and launched from Pakistan, believe the gunmen may have received help from inside India.
It is alleged that both men were in Calcutta in October when Mr Rehman used a dead relative’s identification to buy several SIM cards, some of which were later used by the Mumbai terrorists. Mr Rehman gave or sold the SIM cards to Mr Ahmed, police allege. Both men have been charged with fraud and criminal conspiracy.
A police spokesman in Calcutta emphasised, however, that it was not clear whether Mr Ahmed and Mr Rehman knew that the SIM cards would be used by terrorists.
Was this a failed operation by an Indian infiltrator, or was it a double-cross? Ahmed was part of a unit that uses former “militants” to penetrate terrorist networks. Either Ahmed didn’t get the memo on the attack in time to warn his superiors, or he may have been a mole sent to penetrate India’s counterterrorist efforts. Either way, it looks as though this attack had a broad support network that involved both countries, not just Pakistan.
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hillbillyjim on December 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Remember our Vets today!
December 7,2008.
God Bless America.
christene on December 7, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Terrorists hit our supply lines in Pak too.
Tony737 on December 7, 2008 at 12:13 PM
OMG NO!! It cant be :0
abobo on December 7, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Kind of thought that Pakistan was involved. They usually are involved in violence.
Any way, God Bless our Veterans! Find it strange that Fox didn’t have anything on their web site about Pearl Harbor. MSN had a tiny piece. Did some forget? God Bless our Country, and the brave Men and Women who fight to keep us safe!
sheebe on December 7, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Pakistan has already illustrated that their “sovereignty” is an amorphous thing.
hillbillyjim on December 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM
But almost no mention of the religion of the attackers. Funny how they can ignore the huge elephant in the living room.
irishspy on December 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM
The words “Muslim”, “Islam” and “Islamic” seem to be missing from those news reports.
albill on December 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Ed, the Guardian’s Pakistan correspondent, Saeed Shah, has tracked down surviving Mumbai gunman Amir Ajmal Kasab’s Pakistan village and finds it is a hotbed of LeT recruitment.
And…
Here and here.
ganeshpuri89 on December 7, 2008 at 1:07 PM
I wonder if there were any ’state-actors’ involved in this:
USA Today: PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Militants blasted their way into two transport terminals in Pakistan on Sunday and torched more than 160 vehicles destined for U.S.-led troops in Afghanistan, in the biggest assault yet on a vital military supply line, officials said.
The U.S. military said its losses in the raid near the northwestern city of Peshawar would have only a “minimal” impact on its operations against resurgent Taliban-led militants in Afghanistan.
However, the attack’s boldness will fuel concern that Taliban militants are tightening their hold around Peshawar and could choke the supply route through the famed Khyber Pass.
Up to 75% of supplies for Western forces in landlocked Afghanistan pass through Pakistan after being unloaded from ships at the Arabian sea port of Karachi. NATO is already seeking an alternative route through Central Asia.
The attack at the Portward Logistic Terminal reduced a section of the vast walled compound to a smoldering junkyard.
Tony737 on December 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Well, we wouldn’t want to OFFEND anybody, would we?
Tony737 on December 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM
The words “Muslim”, “Islam” and “Islamic” seem to be missing from those news reports.
albill on December 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Excellent observation! Political Correctness at its best. I noticed that a few months ago. Guess some are not worried or even noticed that. UK has been turning their backs on their own people to appease the Muslim, Islam and Islmaics. We should be very aware of this.
sheebe on December 7, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Israeli experts help India prepare commando raids into Pakistan
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
December 6, 2008, 4:23 PM (GMT+02:00)
New Delhi has asked Jerusalem to assist in the operational and intelligence planning of Indian commando cross-border strikes against Islamist terrorist havens in Pakistan – including al Qaeda, Indian counter-terror sources report.
The Indian government’s decision to embark on these in-and-out incursions in reprisal for the Mumbai outrage of Nov. 26-29 was first revealed in DEBKA-Net-Weekly 375 published Dec. 4 (Indian Retaliatory Raids inside Pakistan Impending).
DEBKAfile adds: Israel is willing to help the Indians carry out punitive forays into Pakistan because it has its own scores to settle for the brutal murder of six Israelis in Mumbai’s Chabad Center by the Islamist terrorists and for the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency’s hand in the atrocity.
Security sources in New Delhi disclosed Saturday, Dec. 6, that ISI officers actively trained the terrorists on military lines and selected their targets, including two big hotels and the Jewish-Israeli center.
Indian sources told DEBKAfile that Israel was asked for assistance because its special undercover forces were long seasoned in plotting and executing reprisals for terrorist attacks; above all, they were expert in getting away after covert operations without leaving a trail. New Delhi wants its commando operations in Pakistan to be stealthy and focused, and does not propose to admit responsibility.
Four Pakistani locations are targeted:
1. Pakistani Kashmir where scores if not hundreds of extremist Muslim training facilities are situated – many of them ISI-run and funded;
2. Punjab in eastern Pakistan on the border of northern India. DEBKAfile’s counter terror sources report that Lahore and Multan have attracted a cluster of Islamist terrorist centers.
3. Pakistan’s southern coast – from Karachi north to Gwadar close to the Iranian border. Indian intelligence (RAW) has evidence that this strip was where the terrorists who besieged Mumbai ten days ago were trained for their assault.
Our New Delhi sources disclose that Indian leaders showed the outline of this plan to US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice when she visited last week. She commented guardedly that the United States was strongly opposed to a full-scale war between India and Pakistan but not averse to limited counter-terror operations.
MB4 on December 7, 2008 at 2:15 PM
It doesn’t matter where the terrorists are from originally, we all know that it was the fault of Bush/Cheney and their foreign policy. CNN will be sure to trace the terrorists’ rationale all the way back to something Bush/Cheney did.
jediwebdude on December 7, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Obama won, what’s their problem?
I thought the world loved us again, and that peace would return to the globe?
The disagreements between Pakistan and India were clearly Bush-created, so they should have dissolved with Barack’s election.
Even Bush said Islam is a Religion of Peace, so it can’t have anything to do with Mohammadism.
This is all very confusing.
Rice called it the “Holy” Koran, so she must know something.
Must be a cultural thing. Or poverty.
Guess I’ll have to read the Koran again and see if it is because Obama isn’t inaugurated yet.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
profitsbeard on December 7, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Everyone patriotic American should know how deep pakistan has been in the islamic-terror business. Afterall , our taxpayers have been funding pakistani government and ISI since the days of Kissinger !
Presidents have come and presidents have gone in the US, but the policy of DC towards pakistan and specifically muslim terrorists has remained unchanged.
It was only when it became clear after the Mumbai massacre, that the terrorists in pakistan will be wiped out by India , that the US state department hit the
panic-button and flew their mascot
( Sec Rice ) to talk “peace” . Just like they send her to Isreal a few yrs ago , when the Israelis were at the verge of eliminating hezbollah et al .
Whats up with that ? Why is the state department going out of its way to keep muslim terrorism alive, both in the middle-east and pakistan?
After Hussain takes over White House and Clintons take over the State Department, islamic terrorists will have no restrictions on their activities at all, and the US government will actually defend islamic terrorism and blame the victims, as official US policy!
Isreal and India should start depending on their own resources and strategies for their survival. Everytime they interact with DC about islamic terrorists, they will be actually interacting with agents of terrorism themselves !
Any bets that the new prez and his new sec of state will do ANYTHING against islamic terrorism?
macncheez on December 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Er
Every patriotic American
macncheez on December 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM
This kind of stuff makes me wonder whether the first nuclear exchange will occur exclusively in Asia? It will definitely be between a Muslim and non-Muslim state to be sure.
Mojave Mark on December 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Great points.
thinkagain on December 8, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Breaking story Dec 8 that Pakistan has arrested the purported Mumbai planner and four associates in a ‘training camp’ in Pakistan. Stay tuned.
eaglewingz08 on December 8, 2008 at 7:19 AM
Rice is going through the failed, tired motions of this shuttle diplomacy with little more than providing lip service. Pakistan will do only what it needs to in order to not be sanctioned by the UN (by that I mean the US). I am sure there are some tribal leaders/terrorists who have not paid their due to the government. Some of them may be sacrficied as the solution to the problem but that will be the extent of it. India has the real problem here. Their internal security is a joke and their government is filled with corruption and more than likely, people in positions of power aided the terrorists in this attack as a way to bring down the Indian leadership. They may succeed as Condi decides whether to run the 49′ers or not.
grdred944 on December 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM
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