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posted at 12:40 pm on December 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Can’t say I’m terribly sad to see that a California judge has issued an injunction against the makers of the Bratz doll line to stop selling their product and pull them off the shelves.  MGA lost a nine-figure verdict in a copyright and breach-of-contract case with Mattel, the maker of Barbie, for essentially stealing designs created when the Bratz originator worked for Mattel.  The dolls will stay on the shelves only through Christmas, but no more will be manufactured and all stock after that must get repurchased by MGA:

The rowdy Bratz dolls have been evicted. Barbie has regained control of the dollhouse.

Toy giant Mattel Inc., after a four-year legal dispute with MGA Entertainment Inc., touted its win in the case Wednesday after a federal judge banned MGA from making and selling its pouty-lipped and hugely popular Bratz dolls.

“It’s a pretty sweeping victory,” Mattel attorney Michael Zeller said. “They have no right to use Bratz for any goods or services at all.”

U.S. District Judge Stephen Larson rocked the toy industry with his order that MGA must immediately stop manufacturing Bratz. He allowed MGA to wait until the holiday season ends to remove the toys from store shelves.

The decision was a stunning defeat for MGA, which exploded onto the tween scene in 2001 with the edgy dolls and made hundreds of millions in profits, giving Mattel’s more classic doll-diva Barbie a run for her money.

Sarah Vine can’t contain her relief in the Times of London:

Overtly sexualised, fashion and fame-obsessed, the principal Bratz pursuits are dressing up, going out, parading about in front of a microphone and doing their make-up. They come pre-daubed in garish eyeshadow and mascara, with glossy,collagen-enhanced lips and distinctly minxy, come-hither expressions. They make Barbie look like a Sunday school teacher.

Infuriatingly, little girls love them – in much the same way as little girls used to love Barbie. I remember my own mother banning Barbie on grounds of good taste and feminism; I have done the same to my own daughter with Bratz. Every time she is given one it goes straight to the top of the wardrobe. Of the two evils, Barbie is definitely the lesser.

Our family already has a Bratz ban for the Little Admiral, and thankfully she’s been more interested in My Little Pony and Disney princesses than the street-slut Bratz gang.  In fact, she disapproves of Jasmine in Aladdin when she kisses him on their date; she tells me, “They’re not supposed to kiss, they’re not married.”  I plan on correcting her about kissing boys … shortly after she gets her doctorate.

I have always been appalled by the Bratz dolls and wondered why the originators wanted to create these tramps as role models for little girls.  As it turns out, the originators were tramps of another kind, which explains it, I guess.  Projection.

The unfortunate effect of this ruling — if it stands, which it may not — will be to make the current stock collectables.  Think Cabbage Patch Dolls in the mid-80s if the company had suddenly gone belly-up.  With any luck, though, that will mean adults will buy most of them for themselves and then lock them away to protect their value.  That will be a deliciously ironic end for the trashy toys.


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Put your money into Bratz! You’ll triple it in 5 years! It is literally the only stable market solution!

jimmy the notable on December 6, 2008 at 12:46 PM

I have never let my ‘tween have a Bratz. In fact, she snubs her nose at peers who have them and even calls the dolls trashy.
I’ve taught her well. :)

pullingmyhairout on December 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM

oh NO!! I like em mean, high maintenance, dangerous, and b**chy!!

oh wait this is supposed to be about dolls….sorry!

right4life on December 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM

These dolls, as far as I know, are the only ones that comes with a G-string painted on them. This is a sad day for American sluttery.

Andrew D on December 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM

The rowdy Bratz dolls have been evicted. Barbie has regained control of the dollhouse.

Geez, even TOY women are catty!

I’d never let my daughter have one these little ho’s.

Good job, Pulling!

Tony737 on December 6, 2008 at 12:55 PM

How in God’s good name are the tweeners going to know what fashions are hot and how to dress for JH School?

hawkdriver on December 6, 2008 at 12:57 PM

I predict a bailout request from MGA by the end of next week. Our whole economy is at stake,..think ripples in a pond or a snowball rolling downhill. This can’t wait!!

a capella on December 6, 2008 at 12:58 PM

I wouldn’t even let my girls play with Barbie, who now does seem like a Sunday School teacher.

:)

Bob's Kid on December 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Don’t worry, there are plenty of other toys out there to help teach our children to be little sluts…..

DL13 on December 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM

As a father of a 9 year-old girl, I’m thrilled to see that these perverted “hooker dolls” are off the shelf.

And those Bratz baby dolls, with Hooker Babies? The designers of those things should be put to sleep..

TexasJew on December 6, 2008 at 1:02 PM

That’s the best news I’ve heard in weeks.

Now if only they’d outlaw shorts with words on the butt.

Meryl Yourish on December 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Hm, one would think that will make their value go up.

Spirit of 1776 on December 6, 2008 at 1:07 PM

I plan on correcting her about kissing boys … shortly after she gets her doctorate.

That is such a cool line. A good giggle with my morning coffee. I don’t blame you at all. Those dolls are not a good positive doll for any child. Is awful how society is trying to push poison on our children. My grand children are small. I worry all the time. They seem to talk like grown ups more and more. Let children be children as long as one can. They won’t be small for long.

sheebe on December 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM

and then lock them away to protect their value. That will be a deliciously ironic end for the trashy toys.

hahahaha +10
Priceless.

inviolet on December 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM

The unfortunate effect of this ruling — if it stands, which it may not — will be to make the current stock collectables. Think Cabbage Patch Dolls in the mid-80s if the company had suddenly gone belly-up. With any luck, though, that will mean adults will buy most of them for themselves and then lock them away to protect their value. That will be a deliciously ironic end for the trashy toys.

Is that irony, or poetic justice?

Count to 10 on December 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Anyway, a recession is when the economy takes out the trash. The timing seems appropriate.

Count to 10 on December 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Heh.

Serr8d on December 6, 2008 at 1:20 PM

How about Sunday school teachers with minxy, come-hither expressions…hmmm?

whitetop on December 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Barbie was super patriotic. She joined the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, and the Marines:

The Mattel Corporation’s Barbie® doll experienced negative press of a different sort. Criticized for excessive emphasis on clothing, exaggerated physical attributes and empty-headedness, Barbie® has, nonetheless, served as a leader in career paths for young women. She has held at least 80 jobs since her debut in 1959, was the first woman astronaut in 1965, and ran for president in 2000.

My sister owned a Barbie in the 1960’s. We were too poor to buy clothes for her Barbie, so I made them out of unmatched socks. The top of the sock made a good pillbox hat. She got accessories (like glasses, shoes, etc.) for Christmas.

Barbie was, in my mind, good clean fun for my sister.

I have no idea how the Bratz dolls were marketed. I saw them in the store, and, while Barbie has a “distant” sexuality, the Bratz dolls were overt.

In the end, though, they are a child’s plaything (as Woody would say), and they are used as the child’s mind sees fit.

unclesmrgol on December 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM

The fact that these are basically plastic trailer-whores aside…

It kinda sucks that Mattel can own your ideas. Yeah, yeah, he signed a contract, and not knowing the details of the case, there may be something in there where the guy was using Mattel’s facilities to create it or something, but I don’t know. It just seems kinda lame.

I hope the guy became astonishingly rich and managed his money well while the gravy train was running.

Lehosh on December 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM

My wife and I have always thought these dolls were disgusting. My wife is a pseudo-feminist so it really chapped her cheeks to see these dolls selling promiscuity as glamorous to young girls.

Also this is skating on the edge of taste as well. Everytime we pass the one in the mall near our house I have flashbacks of JonBenét Ramsey

Sugarbuzz on December 6, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Great post Ed. I’m happy to see them leave the shelves as well.

To invest in such a garbage filled item to sell them later and make money off of them, shows what that kind of individual who does is.

Garbage in = Garbage out.

AlreadyKnownAs on December 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM

for essentially stealing designs

Huh? They are little dolls. Look at ‘em. How does one “steal” that?

toliver on December 6, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Also this is skating on the edge of taste as well. Everytime we pass the one in the mall near our house I have flashbacks of JonBenét Ramsey

Sugarbuzz on December 6, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Fortunately Sugar, I found this on one of their pages. I was sorry to read that it was Saks that was behind this idea.

November 5, 2008

Dear Club Libby Lu Parents,

It is with a heavy heart that we announce Saks Incorporated’s plan to discontinue operations of Club Libby Lu and its 98 locations by early January 2009. Although the decision to discontinue the operations of Club Libby Lu was a difficult one, Saks Incorporated’s desire today is to focus 100 percent of its time and resources on its core Saks Fifth Avenue business.

We hope that you will celebrate our last Holiday Season with us and enjoy all of our great deals! Thank you for making Club Libby Lu great for 8 wonderful years.

Thanks again for your loyalty and support.

Sincerely,
Club Libby Lu®

IrishGirl17 on December 6, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Why, those dolls are nothing but shameless hussies, I tell you!

I blame the culture!

/Laura Ingraham

It's Vintage, Duh on December 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM

It they’re collectibles, then little girls won’t be playing with them. Put the Bratz dolls in safety deposit boxes.

rbj on December 6, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Think Cabbage Patch Dolls Garbage Pale Kids in the mid-80s if when the company had suddenly gone belly-up. people thought they would be collectable… but they were not, they were still trash.

Kaptain Amerika on December 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM

About time. I never could understand why ANY parent would buy that doll for a child.
The cheapest looking doll of them all…: o )

christene on December 6, 2008 at 2:13 PM

It kinda sucks that Mattel can own your ideas. Yeah, yeah, he signed a contract, and not knowing the details of the case, there may be something in there where the guy was using Mattel’s facilities to create it or something, but I don’t know. It just seems kinda lame.

Lehosh on December 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Mattel hired the man to develop creative toys for Mattel. The man conceived of Bratz while he was with Mattel. Then, he went out on his own and produced the Bratz line.

Mattel wasn’t hiring him to compete with Mattel.

I draft a heck of a lot of contracts that say, basically, “If you develop the idea while you are working under our roof, and getting a paycheck from us, it’s ours.”

That is what is called a “work made for hire” clause. If I pay you to paint a portrait, or to write a biography, or to invent something, or to engineer something, it doesn’t belong to you: it belongs to me. I hired you to make it for me.

This is VERY standard in the industry.
__________

RJGatorEsq. on December 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM

The unfortunate effect of this ruling — if it stands, which it may not — will be to make the current stock collectables.

They would be as good an investment as Beanie Babies were in the 90s. If they become collectables it will just be proving P.T. Barnum right once again.

Buford on December 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

In our home, if my daughter was behaving badly, I’d actually threaten to buy her a Bratz doll. She’d immediately straighten up and fly right.

CurtZHP on December 6, 2008 at 2:36 PM

I plan on correcting her about kissing boys … shortly after she gets her doctorate.

My husband might well do something different here.

Since he will soon become the father of two girls, he will probably have to have a good collection of guns and ammo. And when the boys start showing up, he may well do a good show of cleaning the weapons in full view…

newton on December 6, 2008 at 2:54 PM

In our house, we call those dolls Slutz…

newton on December 6, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I just passed by one of these on the shelf at Wal-Mart a while ago and thought, what is this…Streetwalker Barbie? It was dressed highly inappropriately for something a little girl should be playing with.

CP on December 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM

The wretched excess goes by the wayside, and the culture corrects itsel.

Shocking little slutty dolls can’t last forever, they are sooooo early- and mid-Aughts!

thebrokenrattle on December 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Hopefully Miley Cyrus will be right behind them.

Glynn on December 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM

There are plenty of toys out there that are wholesome and age appropriate if the parents would only care enough about their child to teach them properly. Even
this stirs a child’s creativity and imagination and can provide hours of fun. A child doesn’t need a doll to learn how to dress and act like a hooker. All she has to do is have her parents drive her through a college and she’ll see plenty of bad role models she can copy.

Larry L. Sharp on December 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Flaw…. if Mattel owns the IP, Mattel can use the IP to sell the product…

If the product line is profitable, and obviously it has a proven track record as such, expect to see them back on the shelves in short order.

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM

(snip)

IrishGirl17 on December 6, 2008 at 1:50 PM

What an awesome day. Thanks for finding that.

Now maybe the weezing pedophiles hanging around outside the store will go elsewhere.

Sugarbuzz on December 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Yes, stock up they will be collector’s items once they’re forced off the shelves. While Mattel is in the right legally, they should have a more creative remedy that will keep these items supplied to desiring kids but not offend the contractual obligations of Mattel. This is just mindlessly punitive for goodness sake.

eaglewingz08 on December 6, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Don’t plan to make your fortune with these – Mattel might take the tooling and put them out themselves when the dust settles from this case.

Just business.

Wander on December 6, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Man. Time to cancel production on my similarly-themed boy dolls called Pimpz.

TexasDan on December 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM

There is a God.

Gina on December 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM

The Chinese knock-off is waiting in the wings… SLUTZ.

Bigger lips, smaller craniums, huger profits.

profitsbeard on December 6, 2008 at 5:58 PM

There are Democrat dolls available too. There called TWITZ.

Mojave Mark on December 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM

In our house, we call those dolls Slutz

Same here.

vcferlita on December 6, 2008 at 8:50 PM

There are Democrat dolls available too. There called TWITZ.

Mojave Mark on December 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM

The first one is named Alex and is an DNCBC anchor. She comes with a rainbows and Unicorns news set.

Nahanni on December 6, 2008 at 8:52 PM

I plan on correcting her about kissing boys … shortly after she gets her doctorate.

My husband might well do something different here.

Since he will soon become the father of two girls, he will probably have to have a good collection of guns and ammo. And when the boys start showing up, he may well do a good show of cleaning the weapons in full view…

newton on December 6, 2008 at 2:54 PM

See, Ed. There’s another use for guns. :-)

Seriously, wait until after she gets her BA/BS.

steveegg on December 6, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Collectibles are only worth what the market will bear… and the type of low-life’s who purchase those trashy slut role-models for toddler girls and angsty teens already emulating their parents parent mother environment will not bear much for them.

Welfare, petty dope dealing profits, and fraud proceeds only go so far. They gotta eat, make that used Cadillac Escalade payment, and pay that Section-8/HUD rent first.

They won’t be worth much more than spit in 5 years, or 20, or even 50.

FlatFoot on December 6, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Thank goodness they’re getting the yank! As the mom of 2 young girls, I’ve always cringed when I saw one of those and every Christmas and birthday hoped and prayed they wouldn’t get one. Horrible dolls, I won’t miss them at all!

4shoes on December 6, 2008 at 10:48 PM

I managed to raise a daughter who is now 11 and never wanted one of those dolls. She was interested in Barbie for about a month. Now she’s all about the Breyer horses. At least they haven’t figured out a way to make a slutty mare!

rockmom on December 6, 2008 at 11:18 PM

I hope Mattel doesn’t just take over making them. It wouldn’t surprise me.

sandgal on December 7, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Barbie was super patriotic. She joined the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, and the Marines:

The Mattel Corporation’s Barbie® doll experienced negative press of a different sort. Criticized for excessive emphasis on clothing, exaggerated physical attributes and empty-headedness, Barbie® has, nonetheless, served as a leader in career paths for young women. She has held at least 80 jobs since her debut in 1959, was the first woman astronaut in 1965, and ran for president in 2000.
My sister owned a Barbie in the 1960’s. We were too poor to buy clothes for her Barbie, so I made them out of unmatched socks. The top of the sock made a good pillbox hat. She got accessories (like glasses, shoes, etc.) for Christmas.

Barbie was, in my mind, good clean fun for my sister.

I have no idea how the Bratz dolls were marketed. I saw them in the store, and, while Barbie has a “distant” sexuality, the Bratz dolls were overt.

In the end, though, they are a child’s plaything (as Woody would say), and they are used as the child’s mind sees fit.

ITA…the only Bratz thingy I have is the head that you play with her hair and create hairstyles. She looks like Angelina Jolie!! My 4-year old is very much aware that she is NOT allowed to have Bratz dolls because she is not OLD enough to play with them-”that is not for you, that is for bigger girls”-then she goes and whines to Grandma who totally supports my decision and respects it before and after I explained to her WHY. Now she knows to not purchase anything Bratz.

Will have to spread the word on Christmas time to the rest of the family. Please consider emailing your families for this as well (if you agree with this topic of course).

ProudPalinFan on December 7, 2008 at 1:57 AM

There are plenty of toys out there that are wholesome and age appropriate if the parents would only care enough about their child to teach them properly. Even
this stirs a child’s creativity and imagination and can provide hours of fun. A child doesn’t need a doll to learn how to dress and act like a hooker. All she has to do is have her parents drive her through a college and she’ll see plenty of bad role models she can copy.

Larry L. Sharp on December 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM

My kids’ great grandma is a serious rock collector and arrowheads as well. I found a meteorite here in Erie and I gave it to her. She still keeps it in the jewelry box I gave it to her and she proudly showed it to a my husband’s cousin’s boyfriend couple of weeks ago. She said in her will she will make sure I get it back.

She used to find them I dunno how, all perfectly round, different sizes, and original arrowheads just walking near her property. Not anymore of course; she cannot walk that far now, but she did it I guess until a year ago! In her 80s! We are not talking about a dozen of them, we are talking a small barn packed full and her favs (some rocks, the meteorite, geode and a huge amethyst stone) inside her house!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did show her a rock cat I have, made in PR with a bowtie on its head, painted blue eyes and on its mouth, a wooden heart, painted with red with my name written cursive in white with grass and a tulip. I tell you each rock is not polished at all, the tail is a rock, every body part is a rock just all glued together. She absolutely loved it!

Underneath there is the label of the people who made it along with the phone number. in case anybody is interested.

E. & R. Rivera, phone number 787-834-2329; handmade in Puerto Rico.

ProudPalinFan on December 7, 2008 at 2:21 AM

In my opinion, this has nothing to do with slutty dolls and everything to do with IDEAS! Don’t have an idea and create something while you work for another company! They will claim it for themselves later! Doesn’t anyone realize what they are ruling here? We wouldn’t have Dodge or Chrysler if this sort of thing had happened in the past! This is scary!

Javiel20 on December 7, 2008 at 2:41 AM

j00s.

Reaps on December 7, 2008 at 2:55 AM

Tonight on Fox, American Skank.

Coronagold on December 7, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Not sure if anybody brought this up, but how long before Mattel starts putting out Bratz under thier label? Bratz makes billions and Mattel will want that for themselves.

Don Carne on December 7, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I may have to go out and buy a few of these little tramp dolls and hang onto them a few years….then Ebay Baby!

Sorry, culture war aside, no reason I can’t make a buck on it.

conservnut on December 7, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Thank goodness they’re getting the yank! As the mom of 2 young girls, I’ve always cringed when I saw one of those and every Christmas and birthday hoped and prayed they wouldn’t get one. Horrible dolls, I won’t miss them at all!

4shoes on December 6, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Heh, my family hates me sometimes, I swear. I banned these dolls years ago when they first came out, but the family insisted on trying to sneak them in. Every time my daughter got one for any occassion I would simply send it back with a note such as: ‘Thank you for the effort; unfortunately, my child is not allowed to play with this doll. I have taken the liberty of replacing your gift with a lovely book which she will no doubt adore! Please get yourmoney back.’

LindsayK on December 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM

I’m still bitter over these toys gettin’ yanked off the shelves

Black Adam on December 7, 2008 at 11:28 AM

ProudPalinFan on December 7, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Does she count the rocks in your head as part of her collection?

The Race Card on December 7, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Fear not, something else will come along to sluterize our 8-year-olds.

Grafted on December 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Well, Bratz may be taking a hike, but you can be assured a new replacement, more sluttier and skankier than ever, is not far behind. No pun intended. How about “Pimp Family Dolls”, which include “Da Pimp” complete with remote control, bar equipped Escalade and Penny Pole Dancer(comes with her own Dancin’ Pole and stripper attire and removable Bootay)! I am not kidding, these parents will buy anything.

bloggless on December 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM

ProudPalinFan on December 7, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Does she count the rocks in your head as part of her collection?

The Race Card on December 7, 2008 at 11:49 AM

No, I call myself a certified nut.

ProudPalinFan on December 7, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Every time my daughter got one for any occassion I would simply send it back with a note such as: ‘Thank you for the effort; unfortunately, my child is not allowed to play with this doll. I have taken the liberty of replacing your gift with a lovely book which she will no doubt adore! Please get yourmoney back.’

I was always taught that the only appropriate response the any gift was an enthusiastic “Thank you!” Even underwear at Christmas. I guess manners have changed?

angelat0763 on December 7, 2008 at 11:22 PM

We just generally referred to them as “Slutz.”

Pretty much what they were and our girls, all three, never received any as gifts.

MT

Mistahtibbs on December 7, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Never liked these little whores, slutz is right. Even their “baby” fashions were slutty; super-minis, loads of make-up, mid-rift showing tops, high heels with every outfit…

The worst part is that my mother-in-law has power issues and buys the girls this shit against my wishes, and my wife doesn’t agree with me that it has any affect on them (they’re “just dolls” in her words). Well, when we got a message from our youngest’s (6 years old, btw) teacher saying her clothing was inappropriate, that finally got the message through to my wife. After that, I was able to tell the teacher that that wouldn’t be happening ever again.

We started dumping the Bratz dolls and paraphenalia into boxes out in the garage and we’ll be either giving them to Goodwill next week or selling them in the next garage sale (I’ll give the money to the girls for giving them up), although I do fill guilty that I’m pawning this crap off onto someone’s kids.

To me, this isn’t an “uptight” issue, its a matter of giving our kids a poor self image (Barbie too). It also emphasizes being “hot” to be popular and equates “saucy” (read; sassy/mouthy to your parents & teachers) with being individualistic. When my six year old starts snapping her fingers and wagging her head side-to-side while telling me I can’t make her do “anything”, that’s the end for me. I need to raise my kids to be strong, but not disrespectful and rude.

Good riddance.

Geministorm on December 8, 2008 at 8:50 AM

I plan on correcting her about kissing boys … shortly after she gets her doctorate.

Ed Morrissey

No need to rush-it Ed.

Maxx on December 8, 2008 at 9:51 AM

I never let my daughter play with these. Nor was she allowed to go to a Bratz-themed birthday party.

Now if only we can ban the daisy dukes, belly shirts, and hoochie heels for tweeners. Seeing little 10 year old girls totter around in short shorts and heels makes my stomach queasy.

Redhead Infidel on December 8, 2008 at 10:03 AM

I have never let my ‘tween have a Bratz. In fact, she snubs her nose at peers who have them and even calls the dolls trashy.
I’ve taught her well. :)

pullingmyhairout on December 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM

You’ve taught her well? Snubbing her nose at them? Does she snub her nose at everyone not like her or anyone that doesn’t follow what she has been indoctrinated to approve?

grdred944 on December 8, 2008 at 11:17 AM

am i the only one that thinks they’re kinda hot?

Drunk Report on December 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM

am i the only one that thinks they’re kinda hot?

Drunk Report on December 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Yew so nayasteh.

Har.

I bet the tarty club-hos really siphon away your paycheck every weekend.

Is your real name Mark?

Get it Mark? Har har!

Oh… so that wasn’t really funny. Whatevs.

Mephistefales on December 8, 2008 at 10:09 PM

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