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		<title>By: Ayers: It wasnât terrorism, it was more like âextreme vandalismâ &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayers: It wasnât terrorism, it was more like âextreme vandalismâ &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New York Times endorses&#160;terrorism...&lt;/strong&gt;

Several weeks back, the New York Times published an op-ed piece by unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, who worked on the board of a education foundation with Barack Obama and hosted Obama&#8217;s first political event.  In that piece, Ayers attempted to...</description>
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<p>Several weeks back, the New York Times published an op-ed piece by unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, who worked on the board of a education foundation with Barack Obama and hosted Obama&#8217;s first political event.  In that piece, Ayers attempted to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The &#8220;I am too Lazy/Busy to post&#8221; Open Thread &#38; Linkspasm &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The &#8220;I am too Lazy/Busy to post&#8221; Open Thread &#38; Linkspasm &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Newspeak example: Ayers and the Weathermen were not doing terrorism, they were doing &#8220;extreme vandalism&#8221;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grafted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grafted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since Al Queda targeted Americans specifically on 9/11, they are not terrorists, you see?  Man, thinking like a liberal can be fun - none of that reality crap to limit my imagination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And since Al Queda targeted Americans specifically on 9/11, they are not terrorists, you see?  Man, thinking like a liberal can be fun &#8211; none of that reality crap to limit my imagination!</p>
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		<title>By: rocketman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Ayers and his wife did &quot;extreme vandalism&quot; against the U.S. Government and New York State and the American People I suggest that some old C.I.A. style &quot;TERMINATION WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE&quot; (aka hanging) be applied to them.
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I thought it was illegal (called TREASON) to commit acts of war against the U.S.A.--not to mention attempted (and maybe actual) premeditated first degree murder.  Can&#039;t charges still be brought against these turkeys?
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John Bibb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Ayers and his wife did &#8220;extreme vandalism&#8221; against the U.S. Government and New York State and the American People I suggest that some old C.I.A. style &#8220;TERMINATION WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE&#8221; (aka hanging) be applied to them.<br />
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I thought it was illegal (called TREASON) to commit acts of war against the U.S.A.&#8211;not to mention attempted (and maybe actual) premeditated first degree murder.  Can&#8217;t charges still be brought against these turkeys?<br />
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		<title>By: Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;extreme vandalism&quot;

Here&#039;s an idea. 

* Tie him to a chair,
* wearing some pink frilly pannies and one of those tshirts with breasts painted on it.
* As well as writing a little perferated line around his neck.
* Holding a sign that reads:
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;WHERE DA&#039; JIHADI WOMENZ AT!?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
...and dump him in the middle of a nasty area in iraq.


We can call that an &#039;extreme practical joke&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;extreme vandalism&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea. </p>
<p>* Tie him to a chair,<br />
* wearing some pink frilly pannies and one of those tshirts with breasts painted on it.<br />
* As well as writing a little perferated line around his neck.<br />
* Holding a sign that reads:<br />
<strong>&#8220;WHERE DA&#8217; JIHADI WOMENZ AT!?&#8221;</strong><br />
&#8230;and dump him in the middle of a nasty area in iraq.</p>
<p>We can call that an &#8216;extreme practical joke&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: The Irascible Chef &#187; Enemies closing in!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Irascible Chef &#187; Enemies closing in!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ayers: It wasn’t terrorism, it was more like “extreme vandalism” by Allahpundit Not the first time he’s tried to finesse the concept, although it may be the first time he’s done it in the pages of a paper whose own reporting contradicts him. Terrorists, it seems, kill people indiscriminately whereas the Weathermen never tried to kill anyone. Except cops. And soldiers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ayers: It wasn’t terrorism, it was more like “extreme vandalism” by Allahpundit Not the first time he’s tried to finesse the concept, although it may be the first time he’s done it in the pages of a paper whose own reporting contradicts him. Terrorists, it seems, kill people indiscriminately whereas the Weathermen never tried to kill anyone. Except cops. And soldiers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DSchoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSchoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NYT  “reminder” 

&lt;em&gt;“He’s (Ayers) done a lot of good in this city and nationally,”&lt;/em&gt; Mayor Richard M. Daley said in an interview this week, explaining that he has long consulted Mr. Ayers on school issues. 

Mr. Daley, whose father was Chicago’s mayor during the street violence accompanying the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the so-called Days of Rage the following year, said he saw the bombings of that time in the context of a polarized and turbulent era. 


&lt;em&gt;“This is 2008,”&lt;/em&gt; Mr. Daley said. &lt;em&gt;“People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”&lt;/em&gt;


Interesting lets input another name, a Nobel literature laureate and see if this still works, K!


&lt;em&gt;&quot;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#039;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&quot;   Nobel literature laureate Gunter Grass who was the voice of Germany&#039;s war generation.&lt;/em&gt;


Grass cranked out a series of brutal novels about the war and childhood in occupied Poland, beginning with his powerful 1959 novel The Tin Drum. Those unforgettable narratives, along with a good measure of his public hectoring and politicking.


In 1968, he claimed the U.S. was &quot;continuing war crimes in Vietnam, which, as German war crimes, had been rightly condemned at the Nuremberg Tribunal, including by American judges.&quot; 


Grass, on 911: Certainly. Immediately after the terrible attack of September 11, I pointed out that the reason for this attack lies in the anger and hate of the socalled third world toward the abundance of the first world. So long as we do not root out the causes of this righteous anger, the terror will continue.


Nobel literature laureate Gunter Grass sounds like most of the extreme left here in the USA.  I think one could easily draw parallels to Grass/Ayers with their views on the world.


Here’s another parallel, see Gunter Grass had always maintained he was a &lt;em&gt;flakhelfer&lt;/em&gt;, a youth conscript forced to work anti-aircraft batteries. The alibi placed him right in the mainstream of his peers, who came to be called the &lt;em&gt;flakhelfer generation&lt;/em&gt; — those who claimed they were unwilling participants in the war effort and especially its atrocities.


 &lt;em&gt;&quot;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#039;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&quot;  Gunter Grass&lt;/em&gt;


The problem is Gunter Grass was not a &lt;em&gt;flakhelfer&lt;/em&gt;, he was not conscript, or forced to work anti-aircraft batteries, Nope.


Gunter Grass was a volunteer, but not a &lt;em&gt;flakhelfer &lt;/em&gt;, nope he was a full fledged member in good standing with the Waffen-SS. 
   

 Waffen-SS was a group of combat units composed of volunteer troops, with its members partially having strong personal commitments to Nazi ideology and also partially selected on a racial basis.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#039;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&quot;  Gunter Grass&lt;/em&gt;


Do we forgive a Waffen-SS murder because hey he’s been a good guy since the end of the war.
Yes?  No?


Or as Mayor Daily said of Ayers &lt;em&gt;“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;em&gt;&quot;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#039;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&quot;  Gunter Grass Waffen-SS.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NYT  “reminder” </p>
<p><em>“He’s (Ayers) done a lot of good in this city and nationally,”</em> Mayor Richard M. Daley said in an interview this week, explaining that he has long consulted Mr. Ayers on school issues. </p>
<p>Mr. Daley, whose father was Chicago’s mayor during the street violence accompanying the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the so-called Days of Rage the following year, said he saw the bombings of that time in the context of a polarized and turbulent era. </p>
<p><em>“This is 2008,”</em> Mr. Daley said. <em>“People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”</em></p>
<p>Interesting lets input another name, a Nobel literature laureate and see if this still works, K!</p>
<p><em>&#8220;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#8217;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&#8221;   Nobel literature laureate Gunter Grass who was the voice of Germany&#8217;s war generation.</em></p>
<p>Grass cranked out a series of brutal novels about the war and childhood in occupied Poland, beginning with his powerful 1959 novel The Tin Drum. Those unforgettable narratives, along with a good measure of his public hectoring and politicking.</p>
<p>In 1968, he claimed the U.S. was &#8220;continuing war crimes in Vietnam, which, as German war crimes, had been rightly condemned at the Nuremberg Tribunal, including by American judges.&#8221; </p>
<p>Grass, on 911: Certainly. Immediately after the terrible attack of September 11, I pointed out that the reason for this attack lies in the anger and hate of the socalled third world toward the abundance of the first world. So long as we do not root out the causes of this righteous anger, the terror will continue.</p>
<p>Nobel literature laureate Gunter Grass sounds like most of the extreme left here in the USA.  I think one could easily draw parallels to Grass/Ayers with their views on the world.</p>
<p>Here’s another parallel, see Gunter Grass had always maintained he was a <em>flakhelfer</em>, a youth conscript forced to work anti-aircraft batteries. The alibi placed him right in the mainstream of his peers, who came to be called the <em>flakhelfer generation</em> — those who claimed they were unwilling participants in the war effort and especially its atrocities.</p>
<p> <em>&#8220;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#8217;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&#8221;  Gunter Grass</em></p>
<p>The problem is Gunter Grass was not a <em>flakhelfer</em>, he was not conscript, or forced to work anti-aircraft batteries, Nope.</p>
<p>Gunter Grass was a volunteer, but not a <em>flakhelfer </em>, nope he was a full fledged member in good standing with the Waffen-SS. </p>
<p> Waffen-SS was a group of combat units composed of volunteer troops, with its members partially having strong personal commitments to Nazi ideology and also partially selected on a racial basis.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#8217;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&#8221;  Gunter Grass</em></p>
<p>Do we forgive a Waffen-SS murder because hey he’s been a good guy since the end of the war.<br />
Yes?  No?</p>
<p>Or as Mayor Daily said of Ayers <em>“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;winning makes you dumb. The victors think they don&#8217;t have to deal with the sins of the past.&#8221;  Gunter Grass Waffen-SS.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Sonosam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonosam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the focus should be om Dorne more.

She is the real threat with the real history.

Ayers is just the numbnuts of the pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the focus should be om Dorne more.</p>
<p>She is the real threat with the real history.</p>
<p>Ayers is just the numbnuts of the pair.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan2369</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan2369</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says bad things don&#039;t happen to bad people? 
Case in point: John Jacobs and Terry Robbits, both members of the Weather Underground. Mr. Jacobs died of melanoma on the run after being charged for the &quot;Days of Rage&quot;, and Mr Robbins died in the townhouse explosion in Greenwich Village. &quot;We&#039;re against everything that&#039;s &#039;good and decent&#039; in honky America,&quot; Jacobs said in his most oft-quoted statement. &quot;We will burn and loot and destroy. We are the incubation of your mother&#039;s nightmare.&quot; Robbins: &quot;The aggressiveness, seriousness, and toughness of militant struggle will attract vast numbers of working class youth.&quot;

Rest in Peace, numbnuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says bad things don&#8217;t happen to bad people?<br />
Case in point: John Jacobs and Terry Robbits, both members of the Weather Underground. Mr. Jacobs died of melanoma on the run after being charged for the &#8220;Days of Rage&#8221;, and Mr Robbins died in the townhouse explosion in Greenwich Village. &#8220;We&#8217;re against everything that&#8217;s &#8216;good and decent&#8217; in honky America,&#8221; Jacobs said in his most oft-quoted statement. &#8220;We will burn and loot and destroy. We are the incubation of your mother&#8217;s nightmare.&#8221; Robbins: &#8220;The aggressiveness, seriousness, and toughness of militant struggle will attract vast numbers of working class youth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rest in Peace, numbnuts.</p>
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		<title>By: convative</title>
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		<dc:creator>convative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s A simple Answer After All My Friends... Have any of you realzied the mansour, ayers, obama connection and have any of you ever thought of even soviet influences... We where warned years ago... The Time Has Come...
convatively
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s A simple Answer After All My Friends&#8230; Have any of you realzied the mansour, ayers, obama connection and have any of you ever thought of even soviet influences&#8230; We where warned years ago&#8230; The Time Has Come&#8230;<br />
convatively<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s</a></p>
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		<title>By: ex-Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read every post above, but want to make sure this was covered about Ayers:

&lt;em&gt;&#039;Bill Ayers forced me to have sex&#039; with roommate&lt;/em&gt;

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;pageId=77407


I&#039;m sure NOW will be voicing its outrage anytime NOW. Not.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://images5.cafepress.com/product/331072645v45_240x240_Front.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Ayers bumper sticker&lt;/a&gt;


Let&#039;s roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read every post above, but want to make sure this was covered about Ayers:</p>
<p><em>&#8216;Bill Ayers forced me to have sex&#8217; with roommate</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&#038;pageId=77407" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&#038;pageId=77407</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure NOW will be voicing its outrage anytime NOW. Not.</p>
<p><a href="http://images5.cafepress.com/product/331072645v45_240x240_Front.jpg" rel="nofollow">My Ayers bumper sticker</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s roll.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (120808, Morning)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (120808, Morning)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Bill Ayers is still at it, and, so predictably, the Rev. Wright has returned. By all means, hang around, guys. Maybe the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mercy4Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mercy4Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I got an idea!&lt;/strong&gt;


How about someone go to Mr. Ayers house and perform some extreme vandalism on his pad?</description>
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<p>How about someone go to Mr. Ayers house and perform some extreme vandalism on his pad?</p>
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		<title>By: SKYFOX</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKYFOX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No bullets for Ayers.  Don&#039;t want to give the gun-control crowd more ammo (pun intended).  What&#039;s the effective range of a quality cross-bow?  I know a compound bow is a more effective hunting tool, but crossbows are just so wicked!
Not advocating violence, don&#039;t you know.  Just speculating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No bullets for Ayers.  Don&#8217;t want to give the gun-control crowd more ammo (pun intended).  What&#8217;s the effective range of a quality cross-bow?  I know a compound bow is a more effective hunting tool, but crossbows are just so wicked!<br />
Not advocating violence, don&#8217;t you know.  Just speculating.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperCool</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperCool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting to wonder if we really &lt;em&gt;won&lt;/em&gt; The Cold War...</description>
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		<title>By: Why A Terrorist Keeps Getting New York Times Op-ed Space &#124; Democrat=Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why A Terrorist Keeps Getting New York Times Op-ed Space &#124; Democrat=Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chunderroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chunderroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Ayers was ever an advocate of genocide according to the &quot;undercover FBI agent,&quot; does not change who Ayers really is and what the Weather Underground did in the 70s.

I was sickened by Ayers and Dohrn when I read this story:

&lt;em&gt;“The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. &lt;strong&gt;I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.
&lt;/strong&gt;
In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. &lt;strong&gt;Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. &lt;/strong&gt;(Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.

I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. &lt;strong&gt;Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside.&lt;/strong&gt; The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS.

For the next 18 months, I went to school in an unmarked police car. My mother, a schoolteacher, had plainclothes detectives waiting in the faculty lounge all day. My brother saved a few bucks because he didn’t have to rent a limo for the senior prom: the NYPD did the driving. We all made the best of the odd new life that had been thrust upon us, but for years, the sound of a fire truck’s siren made my stomach knot and my heart race. In many ways, the enormity of the attempt to kill my entire family didn’t fully hit me until years later, when, a father myself, I was tucking my own nine-year-old John Murtagh into bed.

Though no one was ever caught or tried for the attempt on my family’s life, there was never any doubt who was behind it. &lt;strong&gt;Only a few weeks after the attack, the New York contingent of the Weathermen blew themselves up making more bombs in a Greenwich Village townhouse.&lt;/strong&gt; The same cell had bombed my house, writes Ron Jacobs in The Way the Wind Blew: A History of the Weather Underground. &lt;strong&gt;And in late November that year, a letter to the Associated Press signed by Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers’s wife, promised more bombings.
&lt;/strong&gt;
 
As the association between Obama and Ayers came to light, it would have helped the senator a little if his friend had at least shown some remorse. But listen to Ayers interviewed in the New York Times on September 11, 2001, of all days: “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” Translation: “We meant to kill that judge and his family, not just damage the porch.” When asked by the Times if he would do it all again, Ayers responded: “I don’t want to discount the possibility.”&lt;/em&gt;


That is terrorism. Ayers and Dohrn were terrorists then. Neither of them ever had the courage to face justice. They are despicable human beings, and they reflect poorly on our next President, in fact, on the whole country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Ayers was ever an advocate of genocide according to the &#8220;undercover FBI agent,&#8221; does not change who Ayers really is and what the Weather Underground did in the 70s.</p>
<p>I was sickened by Ayers and Dohrn when I read this story:</p>
<p><em>“The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. <strong>I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.<br />
</strong><br />
In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. <strong>Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. </strong>(Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.</p>
<p>I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. <strong>Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside.</strong> The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS.</p>
<p>For the next 18 months, I went to school in an unmarked police car. My mother, a schoolteacher, had plainclothes detectives waiting in the faculty lounge all day. My brother saved a few bucks because he didn’t have to rent a limo for the senior prom: the NYPD did the driving. We all made the best of the odd new life that had been thrust upon us, but for years, the sound of a fire truck’s siren made my stomach knot and my heart race. In many ways, the enormity of the attempt to kill my entire family didn’t fully hit me until years later, when, a father myself, I was tucking my own nine-year-old John Murtagh into bed.</p>
<p>Though no one was ever caught or tried for the attempt on my family’s life, there was never any doubt who was behind it. <strong>Only a few weeks after the attack, the New York contingent of the Weathermen blew themselves up making more bombs in a Greenwich Village townhouse.</strong> The same cell had bombed my house, writes Ron Jacobs in The Way the Wind Blew: A History of the Weather Underground. <strong>And in late November that year, a letter to the Associated Press signed by Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers’s wife, promised more bombings.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>As the association between Obama and Ayers came to light, it would have helped the senator a little if his friend had at least shown some remorse. But listen to Ayers interviewed in the New York Times on September 11, 2001, of all days: “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” Translation: “We meant to kill that judge and his family, not just damage the porch.” When asked by the Times if he would do it all again, Ayers responded: “I don’t want to discount the possibility.”</em></p>
<p>That is terrorism. Ayers and Dohrn were terrorists then. Neither of them ever had the courage to face justice. They are despicable human beings, and they reflect poorly on our next President, in fact, on the whole country.</p>
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		<title>By: highhopes</title>
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		<dc:creator>highhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;crabtree on December 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a general statement, I think that college is the place and times for students to be exposed to all sorts of ideas.  The problem with that statement is that colleges ARE NOT balanced in how they go about this.  Not only do they get polarizing figures in the name of &quot;balance&quot; but the faculty is utterly unbalanced in their views and how they grade viewpoints that don&#039;t conform to the socialist/secular humanist/liberal dogma of &quot;educators.&quot;

IMO, the way to deal with this situation is to constantly and vocally protest whenever one of these criminals gets invited to speak.  The most effective voice, of course, is outraged alumni who make it clear that they will not contribute to the institution in protest of their guest list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>crabtree on December 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>As a general statement, I think that college is the place and times for students to be exposed to all sorts of ideas.  The problem with that statement is that colleges ARE NOT balanced in how they go about this.  Not only do they get polarizing figures in the name of &#8220;balance&#8221; but the faculty is utterly unbalanced in their views and how they grade viewpoints that don&#8217;t conform to the socialist/secular humanist/liberal dogma of &#8220;educators.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, the way to deal with this situation is to constantly and vocally protest whenever one of these criminals gets invited to speak.  The most effective voice, of course, is outraged alumni who make it clear that they will not contribute to the institution in protest of their guest list.</p>
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		<title>By: highhopes</title>
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		<dc:creator>highhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In 1970, I co-founded the Weather Underground, an organization that was created after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Okay, any terrorist who refers to his fellow terrorists as &quot;comrades&quot; loses all credibility in suggesting that the Weather Underground was nothing more than a book club run amok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In 1970, I co-founded the Weather Underground, an organization that was created after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village.</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, any terrorist who refers to his fellow terrorists as &#8220;comrades&#8221; loses all credibility in suggesting that the Weather Underground was nothing more than a book club run amok.</p>
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		<title>By: DSchoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSchoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Yes, I want to know how many cops Ayers helped kill. One “suspected” and one unproven doesn’t cut it. He wasn’t involved in the Brinks case. There’s a reason he’s not in jail.”

As a member of the WU, a founding member at that, he is as guilty as any WU members for whatever they do.

Did you read the files?
Did you read the testimony 
Seriously are you an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Yes, I want to know how many cops Ayers helped kill. One “suspected” and one unproven doesn’t cut it. He wasn’t involved in the Brinks case. There’s a reason he’s not in jail.”</p>
<p>As a member of the WU, a founding member at that, he is as guilty as any WU members for whatever they do.</p>
<p>Did you read the files?<br />
Did you read the testimony<br />
Seriously are you an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayers Op-Ed a Mixed Bag &#8212; The Opposite of Jim Bunning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayers Op-Ed a Mixed Bag &#8212; The Opposite of Jim Bunning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think most of the negative reactions, from the expected like Allahpundit to the slightly more surprisingly like Hilzoy, are really picking and choosing what they want to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: macncheez</title>
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		<dc:creator>macncheez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to apply extreme pressure to Bill Ayers&#039;s brain with a baseball bat, made of  organic recycled wood , from a ecologically  sustainable forest .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to apply extreme pressure to Bill Ayers&#8217;s brain with a baseball bat, made of  organic recycled wood , from a ecologically  sustainable forest .</p>
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		<title>By: notagool</title>
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		<dc:creator>notagool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill might have been naughty.

If he was indeed naughty, and he&#039;s not saying he was, then he would deserve to be punished. 

Since he hasn&#039;t been punished, he must not have been naughty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill might have been naughty.</p>
<p>If he was indeed naughty, and he&#8217;s not saying he was, then he would deserve to be punished. </p>
<p>Since he hasn&#8217;t been punished, he must not have been naughty.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder if Ayres had tenure. He’s been so testy lately. Is someone attempting to vandalize his reputation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh he has tenure.  He&#039;s not just a professor, he is a &lt;strong&gt;Distinguished&lt;/strong&gt; Professor of Education.  

It makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder if Ayres had tenure. He’s been so testy lately. Is someone attempting to vandalize his reputation?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh he has tenure.  He&#8217;s not just a professor, he is a <strong>Distinguished</strong> Professor of Education.  </p>
<p>It makes me sick.</p>
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