New UAW ad: You people aren’t going to put us out of work, are you?
posted at 5:28 pm on December 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A poignant message from the folks who helped steer American automotives into a ditch. Too bad they mentioned cars in the voiceover; otherwise this could be recycled as is, replete with the “not a banker” class resentment element, by any industry demanding a future bailout. I’m going to file it away for redubbing just in case blog advertising dries up. That would never happen, would it?
Geraghty wonders who’ll be buying cars next year or the year after with the economy in the toilet, but I think he’s only saying that because he loves bankers. Meanwhile, NRO claims that Congress has stalled on a comprehensive bailout but that a bridge loan to punt the issue to Obama is possible. A final deal reportedly could involve a “big role” for government in restructuring the companies with even a “car czar” appointed for oversight — which has worked out super for TARP thus far. What could go wrong?
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No, your leaders are going to – and that is just too bad.
Why should I keep you employed?
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM
What a crock of crap…
dc84123 on December 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Barney Frank – in charge of your home loan and your car. *shudders*
lorien1973 on December 5, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I’m confused. I heard music only – no voiceover.
RushBaby on December 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Consider it a blessing.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM
No you stupid greedy idiot, you will put yourself out of work when the big three go under.
Mr. Joe on December 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Yes, we are. Don’t like it? Kick us out of the Union then.
Limerick on December 5, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Labor just won the election. WTF are they whining about? If obama stiffs them, he loses their vote in 2012. They will get their money. Not to mention, we’re talking about Detroit.
JiangxiDad on December 5, 2008 at 5:38 PM
You people aren’t going to keep selling us **** are you?
Skywise on December 5, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Iowahawk, with typical genius, has tackled this issue already – the Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Get rid of the unions. Union members get what they agreed to. I am plum out of wanting to help any business at taxpayers expense.
L
letget on December 5, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Yes we can …
tarpon on December 5, 2008 at 5:39 PM
I thought they got paid as much to not work as they did to work? What’s their problem?
markytom on December 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Yeah, we DO want to put the UAW bosses and their “Dues for Democrats” out of work. Not the autoworkers.
Then the U.S. autoworkers for the Big Three can work for the same wages as they do for Toyota and Honda, and car buyers will have a choice of five makes of American-made affordable cars. That works for everybody.
Steve Z on December 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I did my part. I bought an American-made car 10 years ago. I don’t have that many complaints to be honest, but I don’t think I’ll buy another one. The craftsmanship is shoddy and shortly after I bought it, things just started breaking. My friend from Detroit calls them “GM quirks.” Like when your car door doesn’t close and you gotta give it the “GM Bump”.
Full-disclosure: I only drive a total of a few thousand miles per year. My car is going on eleven years old and it just hit 80K miles. I only live three blocks from where I teach.
My next vehicle will be a 4-Runner. And not a hybrid.
robblefarian on December 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I’d prefer an ad showing union members doing crossword puzzles at the UAW job bank and getting paid bailout money for every word they figure out.
hanzblinx on December 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Welcome to the market pal.
Harpoon on December 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM
hmmm….
This has changed my mind….NOT!
Nothing like a spot of Union-busting to get my legs tingling!
lodge on December 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM
We survived it when the aerospace industry tanked in the early ’90s. No sale, unions.
Christien on December 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Where can I get in the “Job Bank” ?
Firebird on December 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Get a cushy union job, lose a cushy union job.
malan89 on December 5, 2008 at 5:43 PM
The last time I checked the UAW hasn’t done me any favors. By my count, since I for some reason I can’t explain other than I think it helps America keep buying American made cars, and so far I’ve contributed about $10,000 to retirement benefits of UAW workers through several car purchases.
Sorry, fishing in a empty well here with the guilt trip.
Hog Wild on December 5, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Here’s an idea, Let’s just go ahead and pay these guys what they are making but shut the plants down so we wont have to be exposed to the shite they are calling cars.
win , win.
TheSitRep on December 5, 2008 at 5:43 PM
(disclaimer)
I have always and probably will always buy American made cars, I am no traitor,
TheSitRep on December 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM
UAW=United Against Working.
That having been said, I plan on incorporating myself as an automobile manufacturer and a bank so that I can get auto loan and
TARPTRAP money.dglenn on December 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Greedy is right, those idiots priced themselves right out of existence. They did it to the US steel industry, now the autos.
By the way, I’ll haven’t owned a UAW built junker since 1972. Honda and Toyota, all the way baby.
Zorro on December 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Did Studebaker get a bailout? Did Hudson get a bailout? How about Tucker? No?
My collie says:
CyberCipher on December 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM
At $75 an hour for putting nuts on bolts, these folks should have sacks of money in the attic. $75 an hour to pop light bulbs into a socket. $75 an hour and they whine.
BL@KBIRD on December 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM
The union needs to talk about dissolving themselves so the company may stay in business. When the unions go maybe the businesses can survive. Until then no you don’t get any money.
blueboat on December 5, 2008 at 5:47 PM
bu…bu…but they made huge concessions! They got rid of the Jobs Bank!
lodge on December 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Will it be a 5-year plan?
Mark1971 on December 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I want a retroactive bailout for DeLorean. Of course, you would need a time machine to do it.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I guess they should have taken the 55 a hour they go, and stuck 25 dollars in a market savings thrift fund and not thought that the Unions were going to take care of them.
Sucks to be them.
upinak on December 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM
After getting hosed by the UAW, a taxpayer would have to be stark raving mad to ever buy a union-built vehicle again.
jay12 on December 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM
If we’d bailed out the horse and buggy industry we would have never had cars.
Go to hell, UAW.
It's Vintage, Duh on December 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Sickening …
Fire them all and hire people for $35.00 an hour with the stipulation they buy their own health insurance and no unions.
darwin on December 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM
When all the “American’s buy American..” really took off, a friend of mine was pulling into the mall parking lot in his MG. Someone yelled out ‘Traitor, if you were an American, you’d have an American car!”
My friend turned, smiled, and said, “Buddy, I am an American. That means I can drive any car I want to.”
I am all for the patriotic meme, but when folks act like ticks on the company teat (such as UAW) I have very little sympathy for them. (Okay, none.)
The whole “patriot” schtick they’re pulling is just disgusting. If my place of business went under (and it is a big part of my city and my state – Congress would not be there to bail it out. Nor should it be.
Especially if it folded because of greed and mismanagement.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Cry me a river, UAW.
Boo. Friggin’. Hoo. You dug your own grave.
Let’s try to stay in reality, eh? $75 is the average total compensation, including benefits and the !@#$% jobs bank and pensions and such. Actual average hourly pay is about $28/hour.
Splashman on December 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM
OMG I can’t believe I actually agree with you.
Is the sky falling?
upinak on December 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM
This isnt a bailout, this is a buyoff for all those corps that voted for Obama.
Badbrucskie on December 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM
You’re not getting it in stereo. The music is coming over the right speaker and the voices out of the left. So your left speaker is not working or your balance adjustment is not centered.
Mark1971 on December 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Actually, I think what they did was redefine it or hide it better.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Too late.
manwithblackhat on December 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Don’t feel bad, on another thread several of us found ourselves in agreement with Dave Rywall.
Shocking to say the least.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM
For thirty years I never bought anything but American cars. Some used — four were brand new. That “tradition” finally came to an end last year. I bought a VW Jetta TDI. The simple truth is, I can no longer AFFORD to buy an American car. I MUST have something safer, more economical, with lower maintenance costs.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on December 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Please, go. Just go away. The market will fill in, with third party parts. If your method of building cars is good, then someone will step in and buy that method. With your $75 an hr wage, you should have saved some money. You have a cushion, get another job that actually creates value in the economy.
Paul-Cincy on December 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM
If a deal is done then the one has made his goal of saving 2.5 million jobs and he doesn’t have to create any. Then he can collect several millions in campaign donations by using taxpayer money to save his union pals. What a deal for him and the dems I hope the republicans will not fall for any more bail outs. Let them fail as I sit here watching my investments tank. I would rather lose it all than watch America go socialist.
blueboat on December 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Coming up to the plate begging the taxpayer for a fat slice of bailout pie after screwing up was your first mistake. Hotdogging it to DC in private corporate jets rather than with the rest of us cattle in economy class was your second. Swinging up for the cameras to the Capitol’s curb, not in your worst-rated gas guzzler, but in your green machine was Strike Three. Now, to continue driving from one ditch to the other, you blame it on the kids in the back seat? There’s the unemployment line—>
Christien on December 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I’m surprised that people are surprised – farmers have been doing this crap for decades. They even get John Cougar to do benefit concerts for them.
And Congress passes a Farm Bill Bailoutpalooza every few years. It was only a matter of time before other industries got smart about it.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Hey, I’m stuck in Detroit metro, you guys think this is bad you should read the UAW newsletter. It will make your skin crawl, it’s loaded with socialist crap and groupthink.
swami on December 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM
The fact is, if they made QUALITY cars in the first place (as they have the gall to say in their ad), most people would have continued to buy American and they wouldn’t be in the predicament they’re in now.
Making tons of money + making low quality cars = See ya!
asc85 on December 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM
I love how they lead off with a token black guy, and then proceed to have half a dozen white guys, half a dozen white women, and a latino woman thrown in. the UAW, the most non-diverse industry around.
muyoso on December 5, 2008 at 5:58 PM
yeah , let our children pay for it.
the_nile on December 5, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Can the UAW, Chester, and then we’ll talk…
TexasJew on December 5, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Your unions have priced you out of the world market pal.
Fun time is over. I guess you will have to find another job that pays non-skilled labor 75 dollars an hour.
Swing your handbag on a street corner for all I care.
DeweyWins on December 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Whoa… I am stunned!
upinak on December 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM
The latina looks like she works in the diner nearby – a victim of the collateral damage – not an actual member of the UAW.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Does it show a bunch of guys sitting around a room not working all day long and still getting paid with full benefits?? Didn’t think so.
ctmom on December 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM
My 1986 Ford Taurus MT5 Station Wagon was idled on the assembly line for six weeks due to a UAW strike against Ford. When the UAW went back to work, they finally built my vehicle — almost. The car spent over 90 days of its first year “in the shop” and was missing some of the features I ordered. About three-quarters of the stuff that was wrong with my vehicle was traceable to incorrectly installed components, and the other quarter to shoddy Ford engineering.
Both Ford and the UAW can **** my ***. I’ve ceased buying American cars, since both the manufacturer and the union have already let me down multiple times [I owned a Chevy Vega -- 'nuf said.]
And to whom did these people donate during the last election cycle? If it was to anyone, it was wrong.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
unclesmrgol on December 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Hey its a easy solution.
Be competive with the competion: have no worries. As simple as flour paste.
You do not need my money, you do not deserve my money, I will not give you my money.
You can only steal my money!!!!!
Will you take my milk money?
allrsn on December 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM
UAW should of worked with there companies instead of fighting them on everything from work rules to benefits that make no since. Let them take bankruptcy that is a bailout in itself. The unions need to jump back and take a hit and help the companies they work for.
blueboat on December 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM
kybowexar,
The diner waitress is asian. There were at least two latinos shown.
Christien on December 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Here, here!
I bought a car this spring. Test drove the Pontiac G6 convertible — it blew. Bought a VW Eos — sweet!
We’ve had three cars — a Saturn, a Toyota, and a VW. When we’ve bought a foreign car it’s been because the U.S. equivalent was not up to snuff.
I am sincerely sorry that people are losing their jobs, but a lot of us are facing those same things and we didn’t have years of coddling by the UAW to help us find our jobs or keep our jobs or negotiate our salaries. I’m really surprised they think this ad will work.
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM
If you keep your jobs, America as a whole loses, you protectionist bastards.
Long live Hyundai & Toyota!
Tzetzes on December 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Is it too late for Studebaker to get a bailout?
MB4 on December 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM
I have read the type of union “news (propaganda) letter?” in the past. Yes they make you want to vomit.
allrsn on December 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Uhm, they don’t even do any “work.” They get paid to do crossword puzzles all day.
Riposte on December 5, 2008 at 6:08 PM
What do the UAW and Democrats in Congress have in common?
Both contributed enormously to the problems in the housing and automobile market collapses, neither will admit their roll, and they want the taxpayers to bail their a$$es out.
Allah, I think you could redub the ad with a script that represented the people truly affected by this financial mess, us. Let us try out victim status for awhile.
Mallard T. Drake on December 5, 2008 at 6:10 PM
My first car was a Chevy Vega. This was in 1975. My dad was employed by GM in South Gate. It was a graduation present. The first year I had it three major things went wrong. I was stuck on the freeway once and the car had to be towed. My dad was really mad so he had it towed directly to the dealer and told them that he wanted this pile of junk fixed. My dad was an electrical foreman so he didn’t actually work on the cars. My second car I bought myself and it was a Mazda.
Rose on December 5, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Considering that GM also has significant manufacturing overseas to include both automobile and parts assembly, are they also asking for bailouts from THOSE governments?
Is a US bailout going to pay for upgrades to plants in China, Brazil, Russia, Hungary and other places? GM is a *global* corporation as are Ford and Chrysler.
crosspatch on December 5, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Let’s get rid of the automobile unions and the NEA, the teacher’s union. They are destroying our country and our children.
sinsing on December 5, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Can I still get a bailout?
- George Armstrong Custer
MB4 on December 5, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Want to buy a 1956 two-tone blue and white Commander? It has been restored to pristine like-new condition.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on December 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Lemme see….
UAW and the Big 3 agree to all the union perks, the members of the union voted to accept those contracts – the very contracts which have helped the Big 3 into this mess –
and now the workers want me to give them my money so they can keep those same bankrupting perks?
*scratches head*
What should really floor you is that we have even reached this point in our country…
catmman on December 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Living here in western PA, I seen the full effect of “union labor”. Thug Teamsters knocking each off like Godfather wanta be’s, steelworkers demanding food from entire neighborhoods while on a wildcat strike, Teamsters trying to blow up an overpass on the PA turnpike. No thanks UAW, I’ve had enough of mafia type unions. Good bye and good riddance
Zorro on December 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Too bad, UAW, that so many union-loving progressives drive Subarus, Scions, Saabs, BMWs, Mercs, Toyos, Hondogs, KIAs, Hyundais, Audis, Minis, VWs, Acuras, Infinitys, Mazdas, Lexii, Isuzus, Nissans, Land/Range Rovers.
Christien on December 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM
When will the airlines ask for a bailout? The industries seem somewhat similar in terms of the union stuff.
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM
What it’s our fault now? Muthafu…!
ronsfi on December 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM
There was more than a little bit of ‘or else’ about that commercial, wasn’t there?
James on December 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM
I wish I could buy a Studebaker Golden Hawk but I will always try to buy American. That said, no to bail out. Chapter 11 is the only way to start fresh.
Cindy Munford on December 5, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Evidently, blaming Hyundai-Scionists didn’t focus group well.
Christien on December 5, 2008 at 6:26 PM
I grew up near South Gate and completely forgot there was an auto plant there. There was also a Ford plant in Pico Rivera. It’s hard to believe now that Southern California once had an auto manufacturing industry.
Mark1971 on December 5, 2008 at 6:26 PM
How much of the bailout money is pegged for ads like these? After all, we don’t want to put camermen, lighting crews and actors out of business, do we?
andycanuck on December 5, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Mark 1971, I grew up in Lynwood. My parents are still living in the same house we lived in when he worked at GM. At that time it was a great place to live.
Rose on December 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM
The big three are already toast. Were in a recession and they expect us to buy expensive little green cars? I will never buy union made cars. I’m gonna buy a Toyota tomorrow.
gringo69 on December 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM
For only $3000 a day you CAN make a difference in the life a a poor union boss. Give from your heart.
Mojave Mark on December 5, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Damn,come on America,bail us out.I miss sleeping on my forklift for $75.00 hr.
Look in the mirror democrats,this is a problem you helped create just like Fannie/Freddie.
How can you compete on the open market with idiotic programs like this:
Jobs bank programs — 12,000 paid not to work
Big 3 and suppliers pay billions to keep downsized UAW members on payroll in decades-long deal.
By Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0510/17/A01-351179.htm
This is why listening to liberals go on and on about how dam# smart they are is hilarious.The cities they run from top to bottom like Detroit,NY,LA,DC are cesspools of crime,failing schools,and bankruptcy.
The unions have been no more than an arm of the democratic party for decades and their bottom line is proof of this.
You can’t compete on the open market with numbers like these.
Pass this crap sandwich to Obama and let the democrats be responsible for wasting the taxpayers money along with all the promises “Mr. Hope and Change” is breaking on a daily basis.
Baxter Greene on December 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Funny how blaming workers doesn’t count as “class warfare” when you’re a conservative.
Grow Fins on December 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Thank you so much! What happened is I listened using only one earbud (no speakers during business hours, and rarely use both buds)
RushBaby on December 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I was just being funny off of myuso’s comment.
Who cares about the races of these people? Personally, I don’t really.
kybowexar on December 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I just bought a new 2008 chevy and I am already regretting it from a reliability viewpoint. The sound keeps cutting out from a bad connection. I brought it in for a diagnostic, and they did nothing.
So yes, I will gladly put you out of business. It will be my pleasure. Where can I mail all the future defective parts?
keep the change on December 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM
So, are you going to buy a Ford made in Japan, or a Toyota built in Alabama?
Which one is a capital crime? I’m confused…
redshirt on December 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM
ahem..
i wonder what kind of car company i could start with..30 BILLION DOLLARS!!!. i could probably make cars that provide oral gratification while you drive!!! shit just buy them out ,(6 bil) fire the unions
and start fresh.let sombody pick up the pieces and start over, without the UAW. Lets get america working again (sorry, I mean actual work)
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on December 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Hey, let’s outsource their jobs to Mexico. That’ll teach ‘em to expect a “living wage.” Elitists!
Grow Fins on December 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Union bosses and negotiators are not workers in any sense of the word.
lorien1973 on December 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM
No, let’s write them a $34 billion check now for them to come back again in a few months for more. You know, as they pay people their hourly wage to not work producing crappy cars.
amerpundit on December 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Reminds me of the old Soviet joke: “we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.” (Except that here they really do get paid!)
Tzetzes on December 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM
These UAW workers need to get a clue. Their union bosses and union greed played a huge role in creating this problem. If the Big 3 don’t get a bailout, it won’t necessarily be the end of UAW jobs. Rather, it will be the start of another era of jobs building cars.
The good people of the USA will continue to need an auto industry. It’s possible for the big 3 to survive intact if union concessions are quick and significant. If not, look for various big 3 segments and plants (and workers) to be spun off to other auto companies and industrial efforts. These may or may not be union jobs.
If you fatten up the golden goose too much, it may die of obesity and you’ll have to start over.
droofus on December 5, 2008 at 6:45 PM
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