CNN 2012 poll: Huckabee 34, Palin 32 among Republicans and independents
posted at 4:20 pm on December 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Tough choice. Do we go with the blue-collar populist social con who’s soft on immigration? Or do we go with Huckabee?
Relax. It’s within the margin of error.
“It might come as a surprise to some that Palin does better than Huckabee among GOP men but that Huckabee beats Palin among Republican women,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Palin’s strength is also concentrated among older Republicans, but Huckabee may have a slight edge among conservative Republicans.”
Among voters who consider themselves born again or evangelical, Huckabee draws more support than Palin, with a 9 point edge. Meanwhile, Palin holds a 7-point advantage among non-born again or evangelical voters.
Mitt pulls 28, Gingrich 27, Giuliani(!) 23, and Jindal 19. The good news? If this is the race we end up with, come 2011 there’ll be a new Kathleen Parker “oogedy boogedy” column every week. Exit question: To the extent there’s anything newsworthy about this moronic poll, which, like all the rest thus far, shows Palin atop the field, what’s more significant? The fact that Huck seems to have a base of fanatic supporters as large as hers? (The 34/32 number comes from voters who say they’re “very likely” to support their candidate. If you include “somewhat likelies,” Palin leads by two.) Or the fact that the ‘Cuda leads significantly head to head among non-religious voters? Given her strict views on abortion and the media’s demagoguery of her beliefs, I’m reading that data less as a reflection on her than as a perception that Huckabee’s a hardline theocon.
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Noneya: like she did when she played before SRO audiences in Sioux City and Des Moines during the campaign. Be intellectually honest-it ain’t going to happen.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM
4 years is a long way but I cant for the life of me see getting in any way excited about Huckmania 2012.
The guy is a flat-out Doofus, who would get crushed by Obama regardless of how weakly The One is likely to perform in his first term. Vlad Putin has chunks of guys like Huck in his stool.
Exit Question: Does Huck excite or repel the PJ O’Rourke/South Park wing of the GOP, the types of individuals who correctly revere and worship the Late Great Ronaldus Magnus, but who also quote Mencken and HST from memory and have no trouble roaming around the Bonnaroo festival for three days wearing Tevas, sampling the local product and drinking garbage-can sized cups of beer?
Mike D. on December 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM
?
People don’t start looking different from fish until fairly far along. The embryonic state is when all chordates are most alike.
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Actually I’m a PUMA who voted for McCain last month. I think The Exorcist is your best candidate but he’s too smart to run in 2012, he knows he will be too young and the media will never give him a shot like they would if he were to wait and face Hillary in 2016.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 6:30 PM
C’mon, ramrocks, get with the program. Conservatives are stupid. Liberals are smart. Public universities = bad. Ivy league universities = good. Palin = dumb breeder. Lightworker = intelligent family man.
All glory to the Hypnotoad!
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Oh. Well go back to worrying about Hillary in ‘12 then.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Do I get some of the milk and honey if I help?
On a serious note, I agree with your post.
meltenn on December 5, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Interesting. Do you have anything in common with the Republican platform, or did you do it out of spite?
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 6:33 PM
I think the $64 question is “What happened to the PUMA vote, Noneya.?” It was supposed to take McCain to victory and you folks were supposed to be lying to pollsters to distort the polls. What happened?
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 6:34 PM
No, it’s not logical. That’s an area where Republicans have a real chance of affect policy for the better. The problem is that pro-choice Americans, even if they find abortion immoral, don’t trust Republicans to stop at curtailing the worst abuses of the procedure. A pro-choice Republican offers the best chance to fix that.
RightOFLeft on December 5, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Hypnotoad. I like it.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Yeah, I have the same handle over there. Agreed – Palin lives her life as “social con”, but she governs as libertarian. (At least so far as the Alaska constitution allows – a little problematic for some hardcore libertarians, as it defines the resources of the state as belonging to “the people”.)
Her primary concern seems to be governing according to the strict letter of the law. She’s even been known to contact still-living drafters of the Alaska state constitution to learn their intent regarding some provisions of it.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Public Universities= good
5 different Public Universities to get one sports journalism degree= stupid
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 6:36 PM
It is both. It’s only a human rights issue if you take the (religious) position that a fertilized egg (or whatever) is the same kind of being, fundamentally, as you and I – that nothing happens between the union of sperm and egg and birth that alters what kind of being it is. Unfortunately, there is scientific evidence that a baby and a fertilized egg are different kinds of beings – you can’t divide a baby and produce two identical ones – that requires religious/spiritual reasoning to oppose.
Big S on December 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM
If she had attended only one, it would have been ridiculed just as well. She got her degree, that’s what matters (for those who have a degree fetish — usually those who think their Ivy League-educated candidates don’t have much else to stand on).
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM
You have read why she had to temporarily attend her hometown community college, right? Sarah does not come from a rich family, and had some financial roadblocks thrown in her way. Didn’t let it stop her, though – she adapted and overcame. Hoorah!
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Well, whatever fits the “Stupid Sarah” template. Anything would fit.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM
former Puma member here turned conservative….I am firmly in Palin’s camp by the way..(She’s my gal)
An Era of Hate on December 5, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Look Sarah finally got her degree. You can’t knock her for her persistence. Nothing was ever handed to her.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Noneya, you do know that Elaine Lafferty, the Democratic former boss of Ms. magazine, spent time with Sarah Palin and says that she’s a “brainiac” with a photographic memory?
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM
I’m a centrist hawk and the far left’s denial about the surge, Palestinian worship and wanting to play paddy cake with Iran bothered me to no end.
There was still hope for that after the conventions, but between the economy crashing, McCain’s crazy suspension of his campaign, Palin’s interview meltdowns and the GOP decision to back the bailout, nothing could stop Barry.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM
I think that’s pretty much what they would do. As we push viability further back, we’re also learning to define how the fetus develops more precisely, which will offer a more natural threshold for when a fetus becomes a human.
Also, I agree with you answer about what kind of threshold they were setting and why. I think it was artificial in the sense that they couldn’t really answer the question of when humanity begins, so they set the bar as low as they could without actually criminalizing abortion.
RightOFLeft on December 5, 2008 at 6:45 PM
First off, it is not that uncommon for kids to go to multiple universities and community colleges. Some of the best students I had while I was a faculty member were transfer students. Actually, I seem to recall that our next POTUS was a transfer student, but I don’t hold that against him.
Second, I am more concerned with what someone accomplishes with their degree. It’s pretty impressive that a gal whose degree is in journalism accumulated enough expertise and life experiences to become Governor of Alaska.
In contrast, as far as I can tell, Lightworker accomplished nothing of note with his degree. He published no papers and as far as I know his major legal accomplishments involved work for ACORN which he seems to want to minimize… for some reason. His political success has been based on connections and Chicago-style politics. If Obama was the next SCOTUS, maybe I’d be impressed by his Harvard Law degree. As it stands, he appears to have gained very little from the educational opportunities he was afforded as an undergraduate and as a law student.
You don’t like Palin. Fine. But don’t hide behind some supposed lack of intelligence or imagined problems with her education. It really makes it hard to take any valid criticisms you might have of Governor Palin seriously.
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I am sure that she will be asked about this in the future if she decides to ever run. It will only enhance her appeal once she describes what she went through to get an education in america.
An Era of Hate on December 5, 2008 at 6:46 PM
But I’d really have to object to using that criterion. Although brain dead patients are not “viable” in that sense, they are still human.
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Most alike, but not enough alike to develop a complex medical procedure without human testing.
RightOFLeft on December 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM
She’s not even qualified to wash Hillary’s clothes, let alone take her place as the first female POTUS. Quit deluding yourself!
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM
By that I mean that they can be taken off of life support, but not killed outright (in most places… not sure about Oregon).
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM
What qualifications did the junior Senator from NY really have to be POTUS? She had a great education, practiced law, and married well.
I’m surprised a Hillary supporter would go down that line of logic.
Y-not on December 5, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Apparently you never saw any of the rallies Palin held in Iowa.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 6:51 PM
I’m not being facetious here but why did McCain take such a big hit for suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington? I was brought up with the idea that it was noble to put your own self-interest aside in order to ’sacrifice’ and devote one’s time to the common good in case of emergencies. (I fully understand why he took the hit for supporting the bailout). Please could you enlighten me where I have gone wrong in my thinking?
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Yeah, I think it’s the other way around. Hillary isn’t fit to wash Sarah Palin’s clothes. Sarah got to where she is on her own. She didn’t have to rely on slick used-car-salesman hubby.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Noneya, don’t forget Camille Paglia, the Democrat feminist social critic, writing in Salon:
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 6:53 PM
I don’t think it mattered that much. What mattered was the sense of “crisis” coupled with the fact that a Republican was in the White House. That doomed McCain.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM
That seems to be the crux of the dispute. We have one ethical standard for things that are alive, and another for things that are alive and human (and I guess another for things that are human, but not alive). Life begins at conception, but that’s only half the answer. When does humanity begin?
RightOFLeft on December 5, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I think the main hit was that he didn’t accomplish a damn thing. If he had rallied the GOP against the bailout, that would have been something else. But he ended up voting for it along with Obama.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:00 PM
I think that’s the one thing that might have saved McCain. But it would have taken someone other than McCain to do that. Sarah Palin would have. Sen. Reach-Across-The-Aisle was never going to do anything so “rash” and “partisan”.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Jim62sch: so the adverse judgment of his campaign suspension was based on future results and ramifications and not on him being perceived as erratic or showboating?
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I think the erratic/showboating thing was the attack that stuck at first, but he could have overcome that had he taken a principled stand opposite the one that Obama took.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Cnn putting THEIR candidate up ahead in the polls, just like maverick.
Heres a novel little thought. How bout we do that?
ORRRR maybe we’ll come to the table later yet again and have a default choice made FOR us.
Lame.
Lame.
LAAAAAAAAAME!
Handel on December 5, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Jim62sch, ddrintn, Noneya, et al–
More than one person has attested to Palin’s photographic memory. Her family and childhood friends say that she used to read the newspaper beginning to end and have it memorized.
Cindi Adams wrote this about Palin on the campaign trail:
I find the “Palin is stupid” argument tedious. They always use it on conservatives. They use on Bush, and for the record I never thought he was stupid. They don’t let dummies fly fighter jets. Nepotism might get you into Yale, but not into Harvard too. Nepotism might get you into the National Guard, but not into a fighter jet squad.
You can argue that Sarah was unready, but to argue that she’s stupid is…well, stupid!
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Then in retrospect if McCain had NOT suspended his campaign but still voted for the bailout are you saying the results would have been essentially the same in terms of taking a hit as perceived by the majority of voters? In other words the lead-up to the bailout vote was essentially irrelevant; he actually dug his own grave based on how he voted.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:11 PM
McCain would have done much better if he had taken a stance against the bailout. But he didn’t and he couldn’t articulate a clear financial plan. That was his downfall. The financial meltdown was the day he lost the election.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 7:14 PM
This poll is a joke .If you think Huckaboo leads Palin with consev.Remember the source CNN.
thmcbb on December 5, 2008 at 7:16 PM
You poor, poor thing. God bless your little heart. You dismiss her struggles to get a college degree and work her way up from PTA to councilwoman, to mayor to Governor. Hillary never struggled, unless you count being married to the liar in chief.
debg on December 5, 2008 at 7:17 PM
You have a good point. Essentially the problem was that he drew attention to himself “suspending his campaign” for no result whatsoever. If he had voted yes on the bailout without suspending his campaign, it was probably a neutral issue. If he had voted “no” on the bailout but it still passed (the most likely result), he would have looked ineffectual regardless of the campaign suspension thing. If he had successfully rallied opposition to the bailout (don’t forget that lots of Blue Dog Democrats voted against it), he could have boosted both his leadership and his “bipartisan” cred.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Hillary is intelligent and has a firm grasp of all the issues. Palin is a simpleton who gets by on her charm, beauty and sex appeal. Hillary went to Wellesley and Yale law. Palin went to 5 schools to get one sports journalism B.A. Hillary spent 8 years as a trusted if unofficial White House advisor, then 8 years as a senator from New York. Palin was Governor of Alaska, a state rich w/ oil money, for a year and a half and before that ran a town w/ a population the same as one NYC block. Their qualifications aren’t even close.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Bob Dole is running again?
joey24007 on December 5, 2008 at 7:21 PM
I wasn’t talking about developing the procedures. I was talking about showing that you can actually accomplish something. Cure one of these diseases that are claimed can be cured. If they actually did it in an animal, they would have a leg to stand on. Right now, though, we have unsupported speculation, and what many see as murder to proceed.
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM
ramrocks: I thought so; some of us didn’t know it at the time. Sarah just kept it respectable and the results were much closer than they should have been. Why do you think McCain voted for the bailout: 1) that he really believed Paulson that calamity would strike the world if the bailout wasn’t passed 2) that he was ignornant or ill-informed of what the plan entailed and just went along with what experts or his advisors told him to do 3) that he was playing politics and saw the vote as a political calculation-that he put his country first 4)that McCain is not an economic conservative and thus bailout fit in with his philosophy of more government control over the economy; 5) that the top brass of the party told McCain he had to support the President or risk losing the support of the party’s apparatus?
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Why? This is a guy who thinks cigarette smoking should be banned and doesn’t mind increasing sales taxes. The only thing that people use to qualify him as conservative is his religious background. So sad. Look at the Episcopal Church. Just because you’re religious doesn’t make you a fanatical right winger. Idiots!
Sultry Beauty on December 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM
+1. You could also perhaps argue that she doesn’t like delving into the minutiae of policy (Does anyone enjoy delving into health care policy? Jindal maybe?). She may not be a policy wonk by nature, but that doesn’t mean that she doesn’t work hard or understand the issues or is stupid. It just means that she looks at the issues and comes to an opinion about them; then she hires good people, sets clear objectives for them, lets them handle the detail work, and tells them when they get it wrong (see: her gas pipeline team).
meltenn on December 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I don’t remember it being the blue dogs. It was the racial caucuses that voted against it because it didn’t give them enough graft.
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Where was that photographic memory during the Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric interviews? Wasn’t the campaign cramming her w/ knowledge at the same time? I don’t buy it. She’s stupid.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Hillary is nothing without Bill
Palin made it on her own
Tell me about Clinton’s achievements as the Junior Senator from New York …
also, lets here her accomplishments as “unofficial white house adviser
and give us a scenario in which Hillary Rodham (never married to Bill) becomes a Senator from New York by way of Illinois
The first day that Palin sat in the mayor’s office in Wasilla she had more day to day responsibilities than Clinton has had in the last 8 years and more executive experience than our current “President-elect” Barry Obama
joey24007 on December 5, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Yeah, it’s so frequent that simpletons rise from nothing to become the most popular Governor in America, while being actively opposed by all the apparatchiks of their own political party. I love how you ignore the links and evidence presented by the other posters here, while parroting your Daily Kos talking points.
What’s next, Noneya? Rape kits? Tanning bed? Trig Trutherism? Let’s air out all the discredited Palin memes. Moron.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:28 PM
And she did it on her own without a husband or a father to advance her career.
When you stack up this woman’s accomplishments it’s almost kinda scary: championship athlete, beauty queen, sports caster, commercial fisherman, City Council Member, Mayor, Oil & Gas Commissioner for our largest oil producing state, Governor. And she’s only 44 years old. She runs marathons, is a crack shot, and has five kids.
She’s friggin’ Wonder Woman and these bozos are upset because blew one interview with the Perky Newswitch? Come on!
BTW, Palin got her AGIA license signed today. She just made history, and her natural gas pipeline is on the way to being built. If she were to die tomorrow, she has already accomplished so much for her state and her country in getting that natural gas pipeline underway. That pipeline will make our country safer from foreign wars.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM
AND… while I’m at it how come we have to include INDEPENDENTS in our polling? OH Yeah, because we need to tailor ourselves to those who are to stupid or lazy to study the facts and choose a Party affiliation in order to win rather than educate them on why we’re far superior to the opposition. That’s in good limp wristed squishy moderate conservative fashion.
When I vote for someone to represent my Party, I want it to Represent Republicans not Independents!
Sultry Beauty on December 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM
CNN, huh… we know who they want up front.
silverfox on December 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Noneya: what would Sarah Palin have to do to convince you she wasn’t stupid? -speak with the elocution of Bill Buckley or the measured tones of David Gergen; accept a cabinet position with the Obama administration; speak out on behalf of Al Gore while condemning global warming-what would it take?
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Spot on … a Noneya would actually be considered a simpleton because a simpleton lacks the ability to reason and develop a coherent thought and simply repeats what others have already said
Everything Noneya has stated here is a simple repeat of most troll activity … its like a tape on a loop
joey24007 on December 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM
No, a lot of the Blue Dogs stood against it as well – they’re not perfect, but they’re usually pay-go deficit hawks. I’m a South Dakotan, and my Blue Dog Rep (Stephanie Herseth Sandlin) and Senator (Tim Johnson) voted against it. My RINO porkmeister Repub Senator (John Thune) voted for it.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Both were HUGE mistakes. Obama looked more presidential by staying calm and keeping course, McCain looked crazed, desperate and overwhelmed. Then when he got to Washington, he accopmplished jack squat. Remember before the bailout vote failed the first time McCain’s campaign was taking credit for him getting the support to pass it. Egg, meet face. Finally, he took the same stand as Barry on everything bailout related. Huh? How was that supposed to help exactly? Either way the whole sequence was disastrous and it was all downhill from there.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM
CNN stirring the pot…
Kaptain Amerika on December 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Huckabee- a popcorn fried squirrel in every pot.
After Obama, all goofballs are legit.
profitsbeard on December 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Have you ever read the transcript of the Gibson interview? There was an awful lot cut out. That interview comes off a little different when you do.
As far as the Couric interview I’m not willing to write someone off because they have one bad interview. I would give the same courtesy to Obama, Hillary, or anyone else.
And if we’re going to argue this, shouldn’t Biden come into the discussion? I do not buy that he’s any more intelligent than Palin. He’s just more comfortable being glib, and he still says crazy and incorrect stuff all the time. The media just gives him a pass because they like him and they’ve been to cocktail parties with him for years.
meltenn on December 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Show a firm grasp of the issues facing this country. I’m sure she knows plenty about, say breast milk vs. formula, but obviously nothing about foreign policy or the economy.
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Noneya 7:31 PM: you might find this hard to believe but I essentially agree with your viewpoint.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Here is a suggestion. Consider how you feel about all of the reporting on the surge and about Palestinians, and consider that the rest of what the networks tell you might be equally misinforming. Then, go look things up.
I did this back when I realized that reporting on Iraq was skewed. Taxes? More money was generated by the highest brackets after the cuts. Religion? The Christians aren’t trying to force anything on anyone, they are trying to keep things from being forced on them (and especially their children).
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Ah, you are over on Ace too. I enjoyed your Grassy Knoll line.
meltenn on December 5, 2008 at 7:39 PM
BWAHHH! what decision in Wasilla did she make that was so important? Funding a sports stadium the city couldn’t afford? Picking which pothole to fill first?
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Are we talking about the one that passed, or the one that failed?
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Thanks. :)
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:42 PM
I can’t believe that people think Palin is stupid for her Couric interview, but they have no problem with Biden’s assertion in his Couric interview that FDR was president during the 1929 Stock Market Crash and that he went on television to address the nation about it!
And no one has a problem with Biden’s bizarro assertion during the vp debate that we joined the French in kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon and that he then wanted to send NATO in to secure Lebanon. I happen to know a lot about Lebanon, and when I heard him say this I laughed out loud in astonishment. I thought, “Dear Lord, the man’s either dangerously stupid or he’s delusional!” But no, he’s the smart guy, and Palin is the dope. Unfriggin’ believable. And it’s rather said that a self professed PUMA can’t see through the sexist treatment of Palin.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Please respond to the other questions asked concerning Hillay Rodham
I would like a list of accomplishments as Senator please
and while you are at it give me the scenario in which Hillary Rodham gets elected to the Senate without the name Clinton
also, tell me more about Hillary the person … the kind of person who doesn’t mind getting cheated on as long as it serves her political goals
joey24007 on December 5, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Herseth Sandlin voted against it both times in the House. The Senate only voted on it once.
If the winds blow conservative over the next couple of years, I’m hoping that some of the Blue Dogs might switch parties. (Call me Pollyanna.) In the meantime, if you’re represented by a Democrat in a historically Republican district (a lot of people are since 2006), then don’t forget to keep in touch with your Congresscritters. The Blue Dogs are more likely to resist Obama than some Republicans…for example, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jon Tester of Montana are definitely more conservative than the Maine Sisters, and probably more conservative than McCain.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM
our current VP elect thinks that Article One creates the executive branch
joey24007 on December 5, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Calling for Unilateral Disarmament of the United States like Rothbard did is Left-Wing
also, the point is they read and are influenced by the Far-Left politico operatives. With idiotic viewpoints, lies, smears, etc. pushed freely on sites like Lew Rockwell
jp on December 5, 2008 at 7:49 PM
ramrocks 7:43 PM As much as I am disgusted by how the MSM seeks to belittle, mock and trivialize Sarah 24/7 what is even more disturbing is the complete lack of fairness when it comes to comparing awkward answers, examples of misspeaking, gaffes or outright lies of Biden with Sarah. How could anybody with half a brain think Biden was smarter or more qualified to be VP than Sarah? Unfortunately per the Ziegler commissioned poll many of Obama’s supporters don’t even have 1/4 of a brain!
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 7:49 PM
here you go, read up yourself.
tell me more about the accomplishments of Sarah Palin… the kind of person who doesn’t mind having a baby with Down Syndrome as long as it serves her political future
(hey that’s no crazier than what you said!)
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Biden aka Ted Baxter of Politics is a joke and a blowhard. The media gives him a pass.
Jamson64 on December 5, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Noneya, once again, what’s your take on the opinions of Sarah Palin’s intelligence by people like Lafferty that have actually interacted with her?
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM
I don’t have a role call in front of me, be I remember hearing that the CBC voted against it because the ACORN graft was taken out.
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM
A puff piece about her time in the Senate. What’s your point?
Count to 10 on December 5, 2008 at 7:54 PM
who am I gonna believe, them or my lying eyes?
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM
That’s correct – but some of the Democrats actually voted against it because they believe in fiscal conservatism or free markets.
We need to be hammering a wedge between the Blue Dogs and the San Francisco Democrats like the MSM is trying to hammer a wedge between Social Cons and Fiscal Cons/Libertarians.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Wow! Way off base, very bad analogy and just plain wrong. Sarah had her baby because of her value for life. God woman, find a credible and eqivalent arguement and you may be more effective… sheesh!
katy on December 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Appears that your eyes only look at stuff that reinforces your preconceptions. You’re the classic definition of a troll – I’m done feeding you.
Jim62sch on December 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM
You’d be surprised at how much work goes into running a small town. I read this in the Johnson bio of Palin:
She made her city into the fastest growing area in the state. Business wanted to set up shop there, and it became the shopping center for the entire Valley. Basically, 60,000 people from all over began to shop in Wasilla and the sales tax from their purchases burgeoned the city coffers, which allowed Palin to eliminate property taxes for residents and inventory taxes for businesses. Not bad for a stupid bimbo.
BTW, this is just her work as mayor. We haven’t even covered her whistle blowing as ethics commissioner for Oil and Gas or her work as Governor in which she negotiated and today has signed the license on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline which will be the largest private infrastructure project in North American history.
Just a stupid bimbo? I think you’re the stupid bimbo, lady.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM
It’s quite possible that Huckabee is the anti-christ and not Obama.
Dec 22, 2012 – the world will end anyways.
nitzsche on December 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Allah,
I am late to the party here, but why are we wasting time giving any credence to CNN polls after they successfully gave McCain credibility when he had none.
Indeed it must be a slow day. The premise that this poll has any legitimacy is foolhardy and flawed. Secondly, the only purpose of this poll in the template of CNN and the MSM is to sow doubt regarding Palin. Call them on the carpet about it. These polls are irrelevant window dressing to drive an agenda. It is a liberal news outlet’s attempt to co-opt the Republicans coalescing around a very threatening figurehead. Why give it any credibility? It is trash journalism.
Starlink on December 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Starlink: anything that can help to further Sarah’s cause and expose the uninitiated to her views is not all bad.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Hear about the duties of the Wasilla mayor’s duties from the current mayor herself.
and only one of us “bimbos” got knocked up and had a shotgun wedding…..
Noneya on December 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I can’t take you seriously after this comment…
That comment pissed me off..HOW DARE YOU!!!
An Era of Hate on December 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Notice who was leading the CNN poll (HUckabee) and who most of us are talking about (Sarah) on the thread.
technopeasant on December 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Hillary is intelligent and has a firm grasp of all the issues. Palin is a simpleton who gets by on her charm, beauty and sex appeal. Hillary went to Wellesley and Yale law. Palin went to 5 schools to get one sports journalism B.A. Hillary spent 8 years as a trusted if unofficial White House advisor, then 8 years as a senator from New York. Palin was Governor of Alaska, a state rich w/ oil money, for a year and a half and before that ran a town w/ a population the same as one NYC block. Their qualifications aren’t even close.
Hillary Clinton had to take the bar in Arkansas because she couldn’t pass it in DC. Unlike Palin, Hillary Clinton did not attain her political success due to her own abilities, but due to he husbands. Since she isn’t capable of defending her own corruption and lies, Clinton blames a right wing conspiracy. Hillary Clinton should have been disbarred according to the man who hired her, a life long Democrat, Jerry Zeifman. Hillary’s foreign policy experience amounts to lying about executing a corkscrew landing in Bosnia.
V15J on December 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM
If you’re the voice of a typical Hillary voter, it’s no wonder Obama cleaned her clock. He’s a class act compared to her.
There! I said something nice about our President-Elect! My God, it’s a miracle. All it took was one PUMA to make me like The One.
ramrocks on December 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM
That is Huck’s biggest fear! Huck is a snoozer and we know it.
good observation!
katy on December 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Become a liberal, pro-choice Democrat. Nothing else would do.
Look, you’re arguing with a fanatic. Don’t waste any more time on it. Might as well try to get a Wahhabi to become a Jew.
ddrintn on December 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM
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