Which city should Obama choose for his speech to the Middle East?
posted at 7:15 pm on December 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Something to kick around in the comments on the slowest news day evah.
The consensus, after an entire day of reporting, is Cairo.
Why Cairo? It’s a matter of elimination. I called Ziad Asali, the president of the American Task Force on Palestine, to gauge his thoughts. “Damascus would be cool, except it would look as if he was rewarding the Syrians and it’s too soon for that,” Mr. Asali said…
My colleague, David Sanger, heard me talking about it and came over to my desk. “I think he’s going to pick Jakarta,” he said. “It would be a big homecoming-type trip.”
But Jakarta’s too easy. Mr. Asali thought so too: “Jakarta? People would yawn about that.” Sure, Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country — some 177 million Muslims live there — but the very fact that Mr. Obama once lived and went to school there would make choosing it seem like cheating…
Tehran? Too soon for that. Amman? Been there, done that. Islamabad? Too dangerous. Ankara? Too safe. Plus the Turks aren’t going to be too crazy about being used for outreach to the Muslim world when they’re trying to join the European Union.
The ballsy choice? Mumbai, although realistically there’s no way he’d antagonize Pakistan like that. Abe Greenwald notes, correctly, that Cairo’s a horrible pick unless The One means to signal we’ve come all the way back to embracing decrepit Arab dictatorships full stop. Goldfarb prefers Baghdad, but whatever message Obama meant to convey in the speech would be subsumed in the perceived symbolism of a new president speaking from the seat of American colonial power. It could work in the context of an appeal for a “fresh start” between Americans and Muslims, with the location a reminder that what’s done is done and needs to be accepted, but it’s risky in the sense that no one knows how Arabs will interpret it. Why chance it? As for Tehran, that’d be fine as a reward for them giving up their nuke program; otherwise, no. Imagine The One showing up there for a cameo, giving his kumbaya speech to formally invite Iran back into the community of nations, and then learning upon returning home that they’re going to keep their centrifuges anyway, thanks. Think Rush Limbaugh and Fox News might find any material in that?
My own preference, if this simply must be done, is Dubai. No high drama in it, but their tourist industry likes westerners and their economy’s modern by Arab standards. “Less religion, more filthy lucre” isn’t the worst message to send. Exit question: Greenwald wonders what, precisely, Obama plans to say. Won’t it just end up being a rehash of his tedious speech on race, with both sides nominally faulted for their sins followed by a pander about Arab anger being “real” and everything ultimately blamed on economic insecurity?
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WHY?
Texas Gal on December 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Oh, that’s easy. Auschwitz.
smellthecoffee on December 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
I vote for Cairo, Illinois. “Uh… Where’s the pyramids?” mutters Obama as he looks over the crowd.
NNtrancer on December 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Um, I wouldn’t do this. Didn’t some imam just call him to Islam? That’s the prerequisite to then killing him when he declines.
PattyJ on December 4, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Dubai?! Yawwwwwwn.
But I loved this comment-
So true. No way is a guy who says “Pock-E-Stahn” for no apparent reason going to take a(nother) swipe at the Muslim Freakshow.
And speaking of which – name another country that this unworldly nothing of a dork feels so compelled to pronounce in his non-native tongue. Ever hear him say “Meh-He-Co”? Why Pock-E-Stahn?
Jaibones on December 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM
And, yes…a) Why?, and b) Who cares?
Jaibones on December 4, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Tehran…he could do a join speech with IAmADinnerJacket. No scripts, no preconditions….just two guys chatting about foreign affairs after BO let’s Iran nuke Israel. Think of all the friends he would make.
David in ATL on December 4, 2008 at 9:30 PM
………..any city with birth control!
try again later on December 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Why would he do this to begin with? The most important issue to the American people is the economy, that’s the domestic American economy. Why would he want to go overseas and try to play nice with the Muslim world when the ECONOMY is the biggest problem. Hopefully if he does this the GOP will highlight the fact that Obama thinks his time best be spent overseas than here at home.
knat on December 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I think Cairo, Egypt is a great choice! He could speak from the top of the Great Pyramid or better yet, in front of the Sphinx. Or— is that only reserved for sitting (i.e., real) heads of state? Damn! I guess he’ll just have to wait at least till Jan. 21st to do the deed…..
Snuffy on December 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Inspired choice, Dude!
We got Kieth Ellison,too! And last week the StarTribune did a front pager on our “exploding” Somali population – guys going back to the homeland to be suicide bombers…
Bruno Strozek on December 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Nothing say Malkins like Mogadishu, Somalia.
AZCON on December 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
How about Tripoli? Neither HA nor the NYT even so much as give it a thought.
DaveO on December 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Manila.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9365/
Speakup on December 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
He can go overseas to reach out to the world! After all, you forget, he has already made a speech and in it he “directed” his team to “come up with a plan” to create jobs and fix the economy. He’s delegated authority to the team leaving himself free to tackle another speech on another topic. Then he can delegate that emplementation to Hillary and crew. He can them be free to tackle a speech on yet another topic. Gee, after all, how do you expect him to do all he has promised if he has to plan and implement everything himself?
Snuffy on December 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Well, with a few strategically placed styrofoam pyramids in the background, that setting could be, uh…, inspiring
Red State State of Mind on December 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
He can
themthen be freeSnuffy on December 4, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot he could just get the Hollywood guys to make him some pyramids, etc. Well, that could save us some money on a trip.
Snuffy on December 4, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Detroit. Seriously.
Y-not on December 4, 2008 at 10:00 PM
In other news…I sprayed foot deodorizer in my Reeboks this afternoon.
whitetop on December 4, 2008 at 10:10 PM
BTW, didn’t his 1st 100 days begin on Nov. 5th? Seems like it. He seems to keep forgetting we only have one President at a time.
Texas Gal on December 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I’m sure there’s a fine university in Tehran that would be willing to host him.
Then we could all sit here and sincerely hope he doesn’t get kidnapped and held hostage.
Sign of the Dollar on December 4, 2008 at 10:37 PM
He’s been in our face so long and so often I thought he had already been Pres. at least a year. Damn, it’s going to be a long 4 years!
Snuffy on December 4, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Now that’s an idea I’ll get behind!
Sign of the Dollar on December 4, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Beautiful! Once again, President-elect Obama surpasses my wildest expectations.
You people ought to pace yourselves; you’re in for a long 8 years.
benny shakar on December 4, 2008 at 10:41 PM
The deck of Achille Lauro
macncheez on December 4, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Is “That One” really concerned about his speech in the Middle East at this point? Although on page 268 of his book ( I believe) he said ” Should the winds of change shift, I will stand with the Muslims? His position has already been made clear, so is his crew merely taking a survey, or warning us of the next wave of immigrants to expect? Enquiring minds want to know….
Ladywolfnl on December 4, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Kissinger was on Greta’s show last night. She didn’t ask him this specific question, but he did discuss some of the challenges in the Middle East (and in other areas as well) right now. Kissinger’s answers on the current situation that Pakistan (with India on one side and Afghanistan on the other) make me think that maybe it would be a good idea to give the speech in the mountains on the India/Pakistan border.
meltenn on December 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
E V E R Y
D A M N
D A Y!
ABSOLUTELY!
or maybe the old Marine Barracks in Lebanon.
I have NO confidence in his understanding of the enemy much less his willingness to fight and even less in his fortitude to stay in the fight when the going gets tuff.
I wonder in his quest to find a location for his foreign policy speech in a ME country .. does he have a WHITE FLAG in his backpack?
Texas Gal on December 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Tehran, deliver one of those normal speeches and stress that Iran cannot develop nuclear weapons. He wants to make history, why not?
koolbrease on December 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Gaza City or Ramallah.
Mission accomplished!
Shy Guy on December 5, 2008 at 12:07 AM
I vote for Baghdad. He needs to see those power drills up close.
unclesmrgol on December 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Speech on what? If it’s the ridiculous proposed peace plan he thinks he can ram down Israel’s throats, then it should be in a city in range of Israeli missiles.
Blake on December 5, 2008 at 12:36 AM
What a bunch of Philasteens!
Tzetzes on December 5, 2008 at 12:48 AM
I vote for Beirut. Lebanon is an allie that is both the most diverse and cosmopolitan nation in the Middle East as well as a state, more than any other in the region, is currently engaged in the debates and conflicts that will shape the future of the Middle East: Secularism versus Theocracy, Muslims versus Christians, Sunnis versus Shia, and the Israeli-Arab conflict. Lebanon represents both the hope for a Secular Democratic Terror-Free future for the Middle East as shown by the Cedars Revolution as well as the potential for a dark bleak future as shown by the prominence of Hezbollah and the Syrian-Iranian axis in Lebanon.
I can not think of a more appropriate place for Barack Obama to tell his vision for the future to the peoples of the Middle East than in Beirut.
irish_infidel on December 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM
That’s easy…………………….. Chicago.
Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Hussain does not need a white flag. With Farrakhan, Khalidi , Dohrn and Ayers by his side , the white flag is fluttering high up there
macncheez on December 5, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Perfect.
hillbillyjim on December 5, 2008 at 3:16 AM
ditto.
Phoenician on December 5, 2008 at 4:05 AM
Mecca would be the high,
Let the Hinnie go.
MirCat on December 5, 2008 at 4:43 AM
Mr. Netanyahu…tear down that fence!
captconrad on December 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM
Amen, Mojo. Does he have to come back?
SKYFOX on December 5, 2008 at 5:08 AM
symbolic nonsense, this guy really thinks his speeches can change real facts and political reality. On the bright side as people see that speeches don’t change facts it will be a first step in undermining his feet of clay. By the way, Baghdad is the only choice that means anything, although I suppose Ankara might be a nice spot.
rob verdi on December 5, 2008 at 6:19 AM
He probably wants to go apologize for Bush’s imperialism, let them know that now that he is president a new day is a adawning…oh yes.
Terrye on December 5, 2008 at 6:23 AM
The big sissy.
Terrye on December 5, 2008 at 6:24 AM
London, Paris, or Frankfurt will do just fine. He can give his speech from one of the mega mosques.
winemkr on December 5, 2008 at 6:32 AM
Memo to Obama’s speechwriter/plagiarist:
Do not go to an “Islamic country” and declare, “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”.
Buy Danish on December 5, 2008 at 7:26 AM
In which city should he give his little speech? Who gives a $#!7?
mr.blacksheep on December 5, 2008 at 7:56 AM
Lots of cities in Europe that could qualify as mini-Islamic states…
But he would choose someplace like Dubai, Qatar or a small “progressive” (read: has lots of money invested in the U.S.) Muslim country.
albill on December 5, 2008 at 8:15 AM
How about Beirut?
rbj on December 5, 2008 at 8:27 AM
Reform should start at home. He should go to Havana first and kiss Castro’s butt and apologize for the fascists who preceded him in the White House. Maybe offer the Cuban mafia a financial stimulus package. And maybe The Messiah could get Castro to send some of his educators to staff American schools and help us get the next generation on track. After that he could beging to work the Islamic angle.
JonRoss on December 5, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Perhaps he should make his speech in one of our domestically located foreign cities that are sufficiently anti-American.
The water walker can then demonstrate his eeek-o-nommm-ick sensitivity by spending our dimes & nickels judiciously during the current eeek-o-nommm-ick downturn.
Detroit, New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Francisco\Oakland, hell even Washington DC are all available.
jaaakemm on December 5, 2008 at 9:26 AM
I seem to remember an Iraq/Afghanistan trip during the campaign, but I don’t think he had time to see much during his whirlwind tour. Couldn’t find much time to spend with troops, either, as I recall. Anyway, I don’t think he wants/needs to return there at this point.
I think Jakarta is looking the most likely, actually.
cs89 on December 5, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Heh, heh. Oh man does Mr. Wet-behind-his-ample-ears have some edjamacation coming. Think of it as “The Browning of Obama.” (his underwear)
smellthecoffee on December 5, 2008 at 9:44 AM
The best choice?
Mecca
I mean, duh. Hello?
I R A Darth Aggie on December 5, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Londonistan
Alden Pyle on December 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM
The best choice:
New York City
You’re a *&^$ing American, Obama, and you will be President of America. Drop this “World Citizen” garbage already.
BKennedy on December 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Other less serious American alternatives:
Crawford, TX
Unity, NH
Death Valley, AZ
Mt. McKinley, AK
Mt. St. Helens, WA
BKennedy on December 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
I would have figured Jerusalem, the planned new capital of Palestine.
Vashta.Nerada on December 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
How about Tuzla? He could fake dodging a few fake siper rounds, and he and Hillarity can then reminisce in future years about how dangerous their jobs where.
What the heck, it’s all about showmanship! (Showomanship?)
karl9000 on December 5, 2008 at 10:22 AM
How about Manama, Bahrain?
The US Navy has had a small base there for years.
And during the Gulf War, I had many a pint there along with a few Gulf Air stewardesses.
War is hell.
NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I say Togo, whose population is 21% Muslim. Then SCTV newsmen Floyd Robertson and Earl Camembert can finally report from the country of their dreams.
Del Dolemonte on December 5, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Does Obama have a teleprompter that speaks Arabic?
The Disciples better get cracking, time’s a ticking.
NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM
How about Baghdad, Mr. Pretend President?
james23 on December 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM
First choice: Nairobi, Kenya–he can be the homecoming king with his buddy Raila Odinga, Kenyan proponent of Sharia law, for whom he campaigned in 2006.
Second choice: Dearbornistan, Michigstan, as the champion of the auto-industry bailout.
Steve Z on December 5, 2008 at 11:11 AM
From the heart of Muslim Jerusalem, which is all of it. (ask any Muslim)
What could Obama possibly have to offer that he thinks would sooth the savage breast of incandescently splendorous Islam? There is only one thing and that is Israel. Israel back to the ‘49 borders and with “right to return” for 2 billion sacred Palestinians that have been panhandling in refugee camps for 60 years.
Sounds like a plan. And this is where you might not understand (as uncle Joe warned you weeks ago). Your going to occupy and protect all the land that Israel stole from the Palestinians and protect them from Zionist attack. That will please some in Islam momentarily.
What else has he to offer? Raise the tribute you are paying Islam now even higher? What, and then borrow that from the Saudi’s? All that’s left is to stand up to Islam and no one will do that.
BL@KBIRD on December 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM
He was too busy shooting hoops to meet with Petraeus or the wounded veterans.
How about a speech at Aden, Yemen, and let Obama walk through the hole in the Cole, and wave to all the recreational speedboaters on the Red Sea. He might go out with a bang.
Steve Z on December 5, 2008 at 11:17 AM
How about Beirut?
He could explain why he and Samantha Powers agree with the Lahore Convention:
Beagle on December 5, 2008 at 11:21 AM
as mentioned by others above–Detroit first
What a presumptive, arrogant premise anyway.
vinman on December 5, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Sanaa, Yemen. He could spend a couple weeks there, visit the family.
Akzed on December 5, 2008 at 11:29 AM
“… to arm the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) with the intent to destroy the Christian community…..”
That’s OK, those Christians probably voted for Proposition 8 anyway.
NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Why is this man making a speech to Muslims in an Islamic nation in his first 100 days? To announce to the world that he is Muslim and we’ve been screwed?
I can’t recall any president making a foreign speech, much less to a religion, in his first year let alone the first 100 days.
He is just trying to prove to us that he doesn’t give a sh*t what we Americans think.
johnsteele on December 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM
BDU-33 on December 5, 2008 at 11:37 AM
–NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Good one. I should add, both political parties seem to agree with the Lahore Convention. That’s why every terrorist in the West Bank is toting the M-16 these days.
Beagle on December 5, 2008 at 11:40 AM
“Why is this man making a speech to Muslims in an Islamic nation in his first 100 days?”
I as an American couldn’t care less about what he has to say, maybe they’ll listen.
The good news is that he’s leaving the country and I sincerely wish he would take the rest of his absolutely worthless Democrat Party with him.
The bad news is that eventually, he’ll come back.
NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 11:41 AM
This is a really stupid idea now that I think about it. His big claim is that he will unite the world and that people will love America again (like they ever did). But if he goes to the Middle East and starts trying to act tough on terror the Muslims will turn on him and probably the Euros. But unlike W Obama doesn’t have the toughness to be that guy. I’d love to see him prove all of us wrong but I’m not looking for it to happen.
lavell12 on December 5, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Mecca wouldn’t work. The roadsigns on the way in have the exits to Mecca labeled “muslims only” and the exits away from Mecca labelled “All unbelievers must take this way”. So, Mohammed Obama woudld not be able to go to mecc…. oops I see where I’m wrong.. Never mind, Mecca would work for him.
bullseye on December 5, 2008 at 11:45 AM
So it looks like it will be in Indonesia. I don’t even consider that a middle eastern country.
He better remind them of how we helped save their asses after that hurricane?
lavell12 on December 5, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Oh, me too baby!!! I’ve never seen such breathtaking naivete from someone so old. He’s certainly surpassing my expections in his pure stupidity!!
And FYI, elections DO take place ever four years so I think you’re dreaming a teeny tiny bit that Jindal or Palin won’t take him to the woodshed in four years.
On topic: I vote for Bethlehem or Jericho. They’re both crapholes since the glorious Palestinians have taken control…
mjk on December 5, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I seriously doubt he’s going to talk tough on anything.
My guess is that this will be an apology-fest that would make Bill Clinton blush.
Intellectual poseurs like Obama are ashamed of being American and endlessly apologize for it when overseas.
Never realizing that it doesn’t ingratiate the apologizer with the foreigners, they merely look upon him with disgust and contempt.
NoDonkey on December 5, 2008 at 11:54 AM
He is in search of his birth certificate!
lavell12 on December 5, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Minneapolis/St. Paul MN
PappaMac on December 5, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Chicago naturally, and he should throw a dinner with Ayers and Khalidi and invite the Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe to perform.
chunderroad on December 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Why give this speech in the ME? Because everything Obama does is staged for maximum showtime.
If Obama has anything of merit to say, broadcast it from home, here in the USA (the place that he’s supposed to represent).
Let’s cut the unnecessary expense and security manpower demanded by this Obama-theater.
onlineanalyst on December 5, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Whichever one Obama turns out to be born in.
Chuck Schick on December 5, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Jakarta. Complete the circle.
coldwarrior on December 5, 2008 at 12:39 PM
So Urkel’s first big idea he came up with as President is to GIVE A SPEECH.
No wonder even Barney Frank is complaining that Obama does more than pose:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94S8I600&show_article=1
Chuck Schick on December 5, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Berlin. At the Brandenburg Gate. Ich ben ein Whatever.
manwithblackhat on December 5, 2008 at 12:54 PM
At least this time he won’t be using his Indonesian passport….
MrScribbler on December 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Dearborn. Seriously.
cheeflo on December 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM
London, England
Jamson64 on December 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Jamson64 on December 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM
zing!
29Victor on December 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Might I suggest Chicago?
The press is dubbing Chicago “Beirut by the Lake.”
RalphyBoy on December 6, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Might I suggest Bethlehem.
Ernest on December 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Its gotta be Dearborn. He’ll fit right in and the locals love him!
Rick554 on December 7, 2008 at 5:29 AM
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