Which city should Obama choose for his speech to the Middle East?
posted at 7:15 pm on December 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Something to kick around in the comments on the slowest news day evah.
The consensus, after an entire day of reporting, is Cairo.
Why Cairo? It’s a matter of elimination. I called Ziad Asali, the president of the American Task Force on Palestine, to gauge his thoughts. “Damascus would be cool, except it would look as if he was rewarding the Syrians and it’s too soon for that,” Mr. Asali said…
My colleague, David Sanger, heard me talking about it and came over to my desk. “I think he’s going to pick Jakarta,” he said. “It would be a big homecoming-type trip.”
But Jakarta’s too easy. Mr. Asali thought so too: “Jakarta? People would yawn about that.” Sure, Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country — some 177 million Muslims live there — but the very fact that Mr. Obama once lived and went to school there would make choosing it seem like cheating…
Tehran? Too soon for that. Amman? Been there, done that. Islamabad? Too dangerous. Ankara? Too safe. Plus the Turks aren’t going to be too crazy about being used for outreach to the Muslim world when they’re trying to join the European Union.
The ballsy choice? Mumbai, although realistically there’s no way he’d antagonize Pakistan like that. Abe Greenwald notes, correctly, that Cairo’s a horrible pick unless The One means to signal we’ve come all the way back to embracing decrepit Arab dictatorships full stop. Goldfarb prefers Baghdad, but whatever message Obama meant to convey in the speech would be subsumed in the perceived symbolism of a new president speaking from the seat of American colonial power. It could work in the context of an appeal for a “fresh start” between Americans and Muslims, with the location a reminder that what’s done is done and needs to be accepted, but it’s risky in the sense that no one knows how Arabs will interpret it. Why chance it? As for Tehran, that’d be fine as a reward for them giving up their nuke program; otherwise, no. Imagine The One showing up there for a cameo, giving his kumbaya speech to formally invite Iran back into the community of nations, and then learning upon returning home that they’re going to keep their centrifuges anyway, thanks. Think Rush Limbaugh and Fox News might find any material in that?
My own preference, if this simply must be done, is Dubai. No high drama in it, but their tourist industry likes westerners and their economy’s modern by Arab standards. “Less religion, more filthy lucre” isn’t the worst message to send. Exit question: Greenwald wonders what, precisely, Obama plans to say. Won’t it just end up being a rehash of his tedious speech on race, with both sides nominally faulted for their sins followed by a pander about Arab anger being “real” and everything ultimately blamed on economic insecurity?
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The whole thing is a terrible idea. But if he must go to a Muslim city, I choose Dearborn.
BadgerHawk on December 4, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Uranus…sorry not a city…oh well!
dmann on December 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Mecca, if he can get in. Then we’ll know if he’s a Moslem or not!
;)
Tzetzes on December 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Why not Baghdad?
darwin on December 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM
On second thought, go with Mogadishu.
BadgerHawk on December 4, 2008 at 7:21 PM
France.
Firebird on December 4, 2008 at 7:22 PM
How about the East End of undivided Jerusalem?
Tzetzes on December 4, 2008 at 7:22 PM
how could he pick baghdad when he will have pulled all our troops from there in the matter of the next few minutes? and won’t spots in iran be under attack from the israelis?
islamabad is dangerous, but if he had any guts, that’s where he would go. so therefore, that is the last place he’ll go.
kelley in virginia on December 4, 2008 at 7:23 PM
As of talking to the Islamists will do any good at all. BS move all around, unless he just comes out and says ” We give up, the USA is yours to do what you wish”
Those are the only words they want to hear.
bbz123 on December 4, 2008 at 7:23 PM
My money is on Jakarta. He is all about his own journey of self-discovery. Nothing else matters.
pedestrian on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Tehran. Maybe Joe Biden can convince him of all the good will that would engender with Arabs.
malclave on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
YES — I vote Mogadishu … Nice cross section of Muslim factions, great societal model for the world to see. While there he could talk to the pirates and ask them to stop picking on innocent ships that happen by. Two birds, so to speak.
tarpon on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
yeah, somalia would be good. i agree.
or how ‘boat aboard a pirate ship? he could lay on the hands & change their hearts!
kelley in virginia on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Somalia? He could wave his hand and turn the pirates into seaweed.
darwin on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
A few suggestions:
Baghdad – to honor our troops
Tikriti – to finally admit it was right to hang Saddam
Islamabad – because Islam is bad and perhaps he ought to help start a war with Pakistan
Mogadishu – to kill pirates
HotAirJosef on December 4, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I favor Babylon, the cradle of civilization. I’d hold a speech, and pledge money to restore the site to its shape/form, before the monster Saddam put his claws of grandour on it
A girl can dream. It’ll never happen.
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:25 PM
HE will attack the Bush administration as oppposed to confronting any issues. We will move beyond the heavy handed policies blah blah blah…
tomas on December 4, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Some village in the fabled Ungovernable Mountainous Region along the Afghan/Paki border. He promised to get bin Laden, right?
innominatus on December 4, 2008 at 7:27 PM
+1
Or any shithole in Waziristan. Either/or.
wccawa on December 4, 2008 at 7:29 PM
there are so many good ideas here. bambi should go on a mid-east tour, you know, the hopeychangey rock band tour. afghan/pocki border is another good suggestion.
kelley in virginia on December 4, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Shades of Revelation, m’lady?
wccawa on December 4, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Gets my vote, and he can iron out that pesky auto bailout thing.
thomasaur on December 4, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Istanbul would be perfect! Obama standing in front of the Blue Mosque delivering a speech and comparing Turkey to other Muslim cultures would be very effective.
Turkey is a friend of the US. I know because I lived there once.
AnthonyK on December 4, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Pretty much a given. Don’t really mean anything though.
He has no problem doing a 180 on anything he’s ever said.
My feeling is that he’s going to take ‘Poll Driven’ to new and nauseating heights…
Words…just words….
BigWyo on December 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM
wccawa, no revelation of any kind; just an objective sense of our absurd new reality. He’ll probably do it from an Arabic quarter in Jerusalem.
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Considering all we’ve invested in blood and treasure, Baghdad seems the obvious choice.
Yakko77 on December 4, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Tehran, without preconditions. LOL
Sergeant Tim on December 4, 2008 at 7:36 PM
He is not going anywhere his first hundred days. This guy will be so focused on dealing with the backstabbers in DC that he will be afraid to leave town. The Black Caesar will sense conspiracy behind every door. Every vanquished foe except for that man-whore Edwards is going to be surrounding him at every meeting. He picked Hillary to run Foggy Bottom to get her out of the country. He will not be motivated to follow her.
grdred944 on December 4, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Oh, and be glad for those slow news days. I remember a day or two before 9/11 commenting to my Dad about how slow and boring the news was.
Yakko77 on December 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM
if he goes to baghdad, he might have to salute our military. has anyone seen him do that before?
kelley in virginia on December 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Somewhere where they really, really, really hate America: Hollywood.
ErikTheRed on December 4, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Dearborn, Michigan and face Mecca.. That’s good enough
justinok on December 4, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Shouldn’t it be Bagdad? It would show the U.S. President delievering a speech from the capitol city of the country the U.S. rescued. What a powerful message. Also an incredible in your eye to Al Qaeda.
paulsur on December 4, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Minneapolis, specifically the airport where the muslim cab drivers often refuse to take people who have liquor or guide dogs.
Bishop on December 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Palestine Texas. Seems fitting considering we know why he has Samantha Power still advising him
katy on December 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM
He’ll soon be POTUS. We salute him then.
BadgerHawk on December 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM
OH! He should go to someplace in Yemen. Perhaps even a terrorist training camp so he can catch up with his dad’s side of the family. The bastard-elect embraces terrorists so why not go to the place that spawned the USS Cole attacks, helped train the 9/11/01 terrorists, and is the hotbed of piracy? These are Obama’s kind of people!
highhopes on December 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Agreed. But he’s got to travel from DC to Dearborn in a hybrid
carlimo. Air Force One stays parked at the base.EconomicNeocon on December 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Worse yet, the military will have to salute the bastard who constantly called them unrestrained killers when he was running for office.
highhopes on December 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM
nobody has mentioned the obvious, TEHRAN!!
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM
For a serious suggestion, what about Qatar?
Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Georgetown, Texas A&M, and Virginia Commonwealth all have universities there.
Margee on December 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM
What’s wrong with UHbama delivering another sleep inducing speech from the USA? Why does he have to go to one of those countries, who of course all hate each other?
Do it from Paramus, NJ for all I care.
Urban Infidel on December 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM
He should just address the Muslim world by videotape.
nitzsche on December 4, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Yes, Sergeant Tim did.
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:48 PM
You’re joshing, right? They’ve been fighting each other for centuries. Long memories and all that. If Obama really thinks he can speechify the muslim world into singing kumbayah and hailing a “fresh start” then he’s even more naive and impressed with himself than I already know he is.
Tuning Spork on December 4, 2008 at 7:48 PM
He needs to go to Bagdad and proclaim we won the war. Why couldn’t he do this
? Go thank our troops Mr. Obama. Thank our troops. Prove us all wrong about you. Be Reagan, be Lincoln, be Obama. Own a victory and you will prove us all wrong and own a legacy.
gringo69 on December 4, 2008 at 7:48 PM
nobody has mentioned the obvious, TEHRAN!!
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM
lol! You beat me to it.
Yeah, it should be Tehran. The Zero can just shuck and jive while they all chant, “Death to America!!”
Cody1991 on December 4, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Which, if he does say that, leads one to wonder, who will play the part of the “typical white person”? Would it be the Jews? Isn’t that too easy?
Weight of Glory on December 4, 2008 at 7:51 PM
He can’t “own” that legacy, because it’s not his. He hindered the outcome, not helped it.
Also, he’s no Messrs. Lincoln or Reagan. Quit that nonsense, as it is really disrespectful to the two gents, all they did and stood for. He’s a cipher who hasn’t done anything at all.
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:51 PM
My prediction he does it in Afghanistan somewhere, this way he can avoide going to Iraq and he can focus on the conflict there and call that the central front.
Either that or pussies out and goes somewhere outside of Iraq or Afghanistan somewhere were there is no conflict.
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 7:52 PM
A video shot in a cave in the Rocky Mountains.
Mark1971 on December 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Brussels.
Since he wants to be a intrusive socialist like his power-grabbing Continental models, and to continue the general misrepresentation of Islam which allows it to infiltrate the West unopposed.
(He appears to know nothing useful about the faith he was surrounded by as a child, as far as warning about its true militant, intolerant nature to his fellow non-Muslim citizens.)
profitsbeard on December 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Meca…
He can get his Haj out of the way…
/sarc… sort of….
Romeo13 on December 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
cody, read Sergeant Tim @ 7:36PM
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Why not Tripoli, Libya? The Colonel over there likes us now that he has given up his nukes.
Sweetness0726 on December 4, 2008 at 7:54 PM
So did the article, AllahPundit, as well as:
Tzetzes on December 4, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Doesn’t matter.
ddrintn on December 4, 2008 at 7:56 PM
While he’s making all kinds of satanic deals with the Russians on arms. Don’t trust him. He was just scared for a while.
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:57 PM
What’s going to be most infuriating the next 4 years is watching this man travel to all parts of the globe and masterfully degrade and denounce the US and apologize to the world for us. Sickening stuff! And the world will believe that the US is REALLY sorry and remorseful and pityful and …..we will be castrated by our own President.
katy on December 4, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Obama? Speech in a major middle east capital?
What’s he smokin’ now?
What’s he gonna say? Take a page out of the Clinton playbook and apologize for invading Iraq? Or will he ask the terrorists to just stop all the terrorist stuff?
This guy is gonna make Jimmy Carter look like a foreign policy genius.
Skandia Recluse on December 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Isn’t there some rising Islamic City in the upper midwest somewhere he could make this speech…?
Seriously, this speech does put an early stamp on what to expect during his term. While most Presidents would be at home pushing legislation thru Congress, he’s apparently heading back out on the campaign trail doing the Obama Hero World Tour gig.
I wonder if his World Tour will be available for the XBOX 360 anytime soon?
droofus on December 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Better still, I vote for no speech at all. I’m already heartily sick of hearing Osama Obama babbling on relentlessly.
He could actually stay in Washington and do something useful. No, wait. That would be too difficult for the incompetent fake.
MrScribbler on December 4, 2008 at 8:00 PM
I’d never thought I’d ever say this.
“I miss the days of Bill Clinton in the White House”
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I wonder what the translator will do to his speech.
Will the spell-casting power come through?
Tzetzes on December 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM
How about he tells them to go screw themselves from Jerusalem? No? Too soon?
If not, then I vote for Dubai, too.
CP on December 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM
cody, read Sergeant Tim @ 7:36PM
Entelechy on December 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Sorry, I missed Sergeant Tim’s earlier post. Tripoli would be good, too, for a variety of reasons as you mentioned.
The thought of BO touring the world is disheartening. He might as well take Carter and Clinton with him to bad-mouth the US. BO did a great job of doing that in front of raving Germans during the campaign. The Germans???? I still haven’t recovered from that travesty.
Cody1991 on December 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I’m guessing the 6th, 7th, or 8th level of hell due to the fact he qualifies for all of the above. Good thing about that is the MSM can still broadcast from there.
milwife88 on December 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM
How about here?
Weight of Glory on December 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM
He sure knew how to wag a finger! (…And, the dog.)
Tzetzes on December 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM
That would require him leaving Chicago and that nifty set designed to remind everybody that he won the election. Even if the Paramus Mall put up a giant billboard saying welcome President-elect Obama, the bastard doesn’t want to stray too far from his comfort zone.
My prediction- Within months Obama will be virtually unapproachable by the media. He will tape segments for broadcasting that provides the latest edicts and five-year plans passed down in the style of Stalin, Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez. By comparison, Nixon in August of 1974 will appear to have been a ” overly chatty.”
highhopes on December 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM
And I thought Pak/India are in the Far East…
Aristotle on December 4, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Hey Obama’s been a powerhouse in DC already. those “presents” didn’t vote themselves, you know!
highhopes on December 4, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Tora Bora!
ramrocks on December 4, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Whatever country has a Planned Parenthood.
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I thought it was which city he should FACE when speaking about the Middle East. You know, they have directional signs and everything.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 4, 2008 at 8:12 PM
How about the radical mosque in Boston that was SUBSIDIZED by the F’n city. Maybe he can announce the govt subsidization of a temple, let’s see how that would go over.
Alden Pyle on December 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM
How about Turkey? Saudi? Kenya? I vote Iran!
Jay on December 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Sarajevo.
hillbillyjim on December 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Dearborn! Midland! Flint! Lansing!
Coastal Paradise on December 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM
I know it isn’t in the ME or Muslim but I vote for San Francisco.
lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM
It’s not in the Middle-East, I know, but there are a number of good reasons to cast his magic spells from there, if his intent is to address Muslims.
hillbillyjim on December 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I don’t know what city, but I hear he is going to pop up out of a well for his entrance.
faraway on December 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
For what would he be “rewarding” the Syrians? Helping Al Qaida fight the US Military when the Democrats were agressivly trying to lose the war?
“Thanks for all your help undermining our military Syria, the Democrats/MSM couldn’t have done it without you” -His Holiness.
Are there other subtleties I’m missing?
rihar on December 4, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Wait… I know!
Bethlehem!
It’s so obvious.
rihar on December 4, 2008 at 8:28 PM
or here
rihar on December 4, 2008 at 8:32 PM
I know just the abandoned coal mine (we’ve spotted a cougar in close proximity lately).
thomasaur on December 4, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Heh. Good find!
Weight of Glory on December 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Am I alone in getting the creeps that the location of a speech even registers as a consideration for our next President?
Count to 10 on December 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Any democratic one would be fine.
exception on December 4, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Chicago, at his neighbor Farakhan’s house.
JiangxiDad on December 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
How’s about Birmingham in the Nation Formerly Known As Great Britain?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574694/Bishop-warns-of-no-go-zones-for-non-Muslims.html
Then the One can prove his Divinity by going to a football game and cleansing English hooligans of their need to “discuss” ethnicity….
A two-fer!
dmh0667 on December 4, 2008 at 8:53 PM
MECCA – AND HE CAN MAKE HAJJ AT THE SAME TIME!
reliapundit on December 4, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Bumfuk, Egypt
mojo on December 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM
How about Palestine, Texas (but down here, we pronounce it Palesteen)?
Or Paris, Texas (since Mein Fuhrer is a surrender monkey)?
madmonkphotog on December 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM
seriously:
what can obama say that would be BVOLD!?!?!?
bush was the 1st potus to come out for a pali state.
i think the only thing he can do is endorse the saudi plan and put more pressure on israel and offer NATO troops to replace IDF troops in the west bank.
if israel refuses obama will SUPPORT a UNSCR and stop all aid.
inserting NATO troops will be and INEFFECTIOVE as UNIFIL troops in southern lebanon – BUT WORSE!
NATO troops won;t be able to stop any attacks, but they will prevent IDF retaliation.
it’s a ein-win for the arabs, and alose BIGTIME for Israel.
all of obama’s anti-”Israel Lobby” advisors support the nato plan: jones. scowcroft, zbig, powers, rice.
they will try to do it before bibi is elected.
if they fail, then they will go ahead woth it anyhow and blame bibi.
and the JOOOOOOOOZE!
reliapundit on December 4, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Tehran,without pre-conditions,of course!(Sarc!).
canopfor on December 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM
How about Bum F*&%ed Egypt….
Hog Wild on December 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
This guy is really beginning to take on the aura of the anti-Christ.
keep the change on December 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM
It has to be Kabul. I mean Afghanistan is the good war right?
Dawnsblood on December 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM
I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be more, um, impressive.
ddrintn on December 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
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