The sad thing is, you just know Obama is going to get credit for the success in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of Bush. I can see it now, a few months after Obama is sworn in, there will be regular media reports on how few casualties there have been in Iraq and Afghanistan since Obama was elected.

xblade on December 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM

History will be good to Bush on Iraq. If Obama gets credit in both wars so be it. That would mean WE win.

Jamson64 on December 5, 2008 at 7:49 PM

And remember to tell your kids and grandkids the real story of 911 and of Bush’s ballsy push to make us secure. Also, include the back stabbing that the Dems pulled in the name of party and politics. This current Dem party is more than despicable. Let’s make keep that part of the historical record too.

xblade on December 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM

History will be good to Bush on Iraq. If Obama gets credit in both wars so be it. That would mean WE win.

It wasn’t a question of the rhetoric being inconsistent; the question was whether he was on the level or whether, as many leftists doubtless assumed, he was saying what he had to say to get elected.

Not saying that isn’t so, but it presents a puzzling picture. Obama lies to win the votes of leftists who know he’s lying in order to get votes. We’re becoming one bizarre country.

*thud*

Guardian on December 4, 2008 at 6:48 PM

Your link. I just watched three people get killed, didn’t I?

I especially like the comment in the article that “his view is evolving.”

Not that he lying to his supporters; not that he was wrong – just “evolving”.

kcewa on December 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM

“Evolving” = liberal cluelessness adjusting to reality.

ewells45 on December 4, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Watch this one for a laugh. These always give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

As far as Iraq and bases go, the libtards would go nuts if they knew we will never leave Iraq. I’m not sure about any of the other bases but I was told in 2006 when I was in Tikrit that Camp Speicher is a permanent US base. It was being built up when I left. Every briefing I went to emphasized that all planning and construction was with permanent occupancy in mind.

There is no way we will ever pull completely put of Iraq. It is way too good of a strategic location in the middle east to just walk away from. It would be stupid to leave.

We’re staying in Iraq just like we stayed in Germany and Japan.

It brought tears to my eyes.

Pentagon planners say that it is possible that Mr. Obama’s goal could be accomplished at least in part by relabeling some units, so that those currently counted as combat troops could be “re-missioned,” their efforts redefined as training and support for the Iraqis

Does this mean loss of combat pay?

I especially like the comment in the article that “his view is evolving.”

Not that he lying to his supporters; not that he was wrong – just “evolving”.

kcewa on December 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM

That’s always been the case. Liberals arent’ expected to be consistent. Only Conservatives, we judgemental, narrow-minded, self-righteous lot, are called to task for revision our positions based on new information. The label that’s generally given to us is “hypocrite”. Libs can do what they want, because a)they seldom talk about honesty or morals, and b) whatever they do is “well-intentioned”.

Not that he lying to his supporters; not that he was wrong – just “evolving”.

I wonder why it is that the liberal participants at this site won’t comment much (if at all) on this subject? Is slamming Sarah Palin the only thing they can do?

ddrintn on December 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM

Yep, they gravitate for the conservative-on-conservative death matches and the social conservative threads. They don’t have the chops for this type of thread.

We truly live in Bizarro-world.

notagool on December 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Yes. And Barney Frank is the bizarro-Newman: “Farkus”

Even the stupidist “journalist” in the world, the NY Slimes, have now figured it out.

Middle Schoolers could run this country better then the left and the media. Yet they are in charge. We truly live in Bizarro-world.

Bush did follow the War Powers Resolution with both Afghanistan and Iraq…..and these same idiots have shifted their criticism on that front to “Its an Unconstitutional War”.

Nice and convenient for Bush, Gates, and Petraeus (on McCain’s advice) to win the war before Obama had to make any decisions about the troops. Obama might just keep Gates on board to reward him for his good work…under Bush.

On still another thread, we find out that Israel might attack Iran’s nuclear facilities without U.S. support. A quick glance at a map shows that the biggest country between Iran and Israel is…Iraq. Ya know, those American troops in Iraq (combat or otherwise) might come in handy when Iran launches its retaliation. They are perfectly placed, right where they need to be!

Now what’s a leftist pacifist appeaser like Obama to DO? I HOPE he CHANGEs his mind!