He was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the 80’s(when he said it nobody said it was a threat.)

He said that who would of believed that the Soviet Union would end. Even Saddam ,who would of thought he would be taken down.
There is a difference between zionism and Jewish people.

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=wipe+israel+off+the+map&search_type=&aq=0&oq=wipe+israe
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NnA75S6M4Nk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pFfHjNximGg

Zionism as an ideology and their action’s will pass.The way to do this is by giving Palestinians a free referendum to be able to have self determination.

What ever they decide will be abide by,democracy.
Ernst the Iranian people are one of the most pro America/West in the region.
70% under 40,and 70% literate,they want change in their country but it has to be from the ground up.

Persian are proud people with a historical presence and influence.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pFfHjNximGg
Please watch the clips,i genuinely want to know your thoughts.

Please explain oh Guru.

“the regime occupying Jerusalem will disappear from the pages of time” sure sounds like a threat to me or am I just not appreciative of some cheap poetry?

Firstly any cooperation for Israel to use Iraqi airspace to attack Iran should be made by the Iraqi government and people,you know that democracy you keep telling me about.

Iranian,30 years of terrorism? You can not ignore US interference in that country.

Overthrowing the popular democratic leader of Iran because he wanted to nationalise THEIR oil.

Reinstalled the Shah a brutal dictator,trained their brutal police.

During this time there wasn’t any democracy.Lavishly spent the countries money on his own.

This led to the uprising,the hostages were taken in case the U.S tried to bring the Shah back because that had happened before.

Your country funded and supported Saddam to invade ,which prevented Iran growing economically.
Chemical weapons under U.S approval were used against civilian population.
You shot down a civilian plane killing hundreds including 66 children,the seventh worse aviation incident.

On 9/11 The Iranians held candlelit vigils ,and marches saying death to terrorists.

It was condemned by the religious leaders, even dropped the ‘death to America’ chants at Friday prays,which sounds daft but it was a huge shift in policy towards the U.S.

They cooperated in Afghanistan,it was them that persuaded the northern alliance to cooperate,encouraged voting and helped Karzai.If U.S soldiers were shot down and landed in Iran they would be returned.

Look up The Grand Bargain that was nearly done with the Reform Party.

When Bush called them an axis of evil, he humiliated these reformers,this led to Ahmadinejad being voted leader.

U.S backed terrorist group MEK has killed many including their president and prime minister.

If you want all Iranians annihilated the least you can do is get the facts.

Ahmadinejad did not threaten to ‘wipe Israel off the map’,

He said the regime occupying Jerusalem will disappear from the pages of time.
Zionism,when we wanted to get rid of communism in USSR it didn’t mean that we wanted to kill all Russians. It’s the ideology.

Apartheid in the South Africa has vanished from the page of time.

What the Holocaust denial people are saying,is let there be more research,why is it against the law to question the numbers that were killed or anything about what happened.

Some Americans want another inquiry into 9/11.Don’t they believe the CIA and George Bush did it?

Who killed JFK ? I am in the U.K and the next person who tells me,Prince Philip had Princess Diana killed because she was pregnant with a Muslims’ baby i will hit.

Also, the holocaust is used to condone any actions by Israel.
They say that if it did happen as told,then what did the Palestinian people have to do with it?

Why do they have to be thrown out of their homes for something carried out Europe.

The AIEA, to whom Iran is a member(unlike Israel that has hundreds of fourth and fifth generation nukes undeclared)
has been calling on Israel/U.S to share the information with them that shows Iran has nukes.

Israel has violated more U.N resolutions than any other country with impunity.It is still on occupied land.It has bombed Syria and Lebanon in the last couple years.

Who is the aggressor?

Annoyingly, every time I try to post this as a link it goes into nowhere and my post is gone.
http://www.cria-online.org/5_2.html

Marine_Bio on December 4, 2008 at 2:01 PM

That was an interesting read….thanks

The weak spot in the Iranian atomic program are a dearth of trained techs and physicists.

Killing them is a shotgun job.

Replacing them takes half a generation of time.

US forces will not shoot down Israeli fighters … codes or not…
HondaV65 on December 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM

The problem is that, without the codes, how would air defense operators know the aircraft are Israeli? What if they were Syrian? That determination that the unresponsive bogeys in question weren’t a threat would have to take place at a very high level, and without at least giving substantial forewarning (enough so that word would have time to trickle far enough down from the Pentagon to affect rules of engagement in the field), the Israeli pilots would run a very serious risk of being presumed hostile and finding themselves on the receiving end of some Patriots and AMRAAMs. And that’s obviously a scenario I expect everyone involved would seriously wish to avoid.

Israel would have a difficult but not impossible task in hitting enough sites in Iran to make a difference. The most direct route would take then through Iraqi air space, which would also require the IFF codes to avoid getting attacked by US forces.

Diffcult, Yes. Impossible, No. General public ignorance of military control and targeting capability might lead one to think it impossible. US forces would never fire on Israeli forces, except purely by mistake or if fired upon first. Last minute command/control contact would occur that would hinder this type of mistake. Plus, Israel pretty much already knows our capabilities and would take steps to exploit them thereby giving the US an excuse for not being getting involved and/or responsible in the initial phases of operations.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32080_Egyptian_Cleric_to_Obama-_Convert_to_Islam/comments/#ctop

he obviously didn’t get the email about the election of The One and all humanity becoming one big Woodstock!

We need to get some sh!t sorted.

Would all of that be worth ridding the world of Iranian nukes? You bet it would — but only if it could completely destroy the Iranian nuclear program. That’s a long shot on the order of hitting the lottery, even with US cooperation.

Ed,
The exception would be if the US used precision, penetrator, bunker-busting nuclear weapons. I admit that their use is a longshot, but if they were the mission would not be one…

Or, how about using neutron bombs in those warheads..? None of the fallout or radiation signature of conventional nukes, but it does kill all of the people…And makes it hard to point fingers…

If we wanted to take out Iran’s nukie program as much as O! wanted to win-by whatever means necessary-then rest assured that we could do so…

The question really is; could we live with the oil price shock that would follow afterward..?

I’ll go.

Might as well help Israel level Iran if they are going to attack them. the US will get the blame anyway. If Israel/US attacks Iran we might as well destroy them. Make sure they are never a problem again.

lavell12 on December 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM

I don’t think turning Iran into glass is necessary, though it is not impossible that Israel may see a targeted atomic attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities as the only option. Even with tactical nukes, the damage and loss of life would be very high.

But if we can speculate about it, so can the Israelis. They are such a tiny nation that this might ultimately be their only chance (three nuclear strikes from Iran would effectively destroy Israel), but my guess is that they would use it only in extremis.

What happens to Iran will depend to a large extent on the Iranian people: how much longer will they tolerate the autocratic rule of the mullahs? Is there a viable alternative developing? Is there an underground? Faint hope, I know, in the short run. But if so, we want to encourage it, and help make its emergence possible.

That said, the polical repercussions would obviously be enormous. I don’t know if there’s any realistic chance the Israelis would take such a gamble, especially as it’s most likely Iran’s Israel-oriented nuclear rhetorical is likely just that, and in reality the Mullahs would use their nuclear arsenal much as other nations have–to threaten for strategic effect (which would still be bad news for us). However, I suspect it is something within Israel’s capability and probably shouldn’t be discounted out-of-hand.