Right, 20% of the voting age American citizens don’t have a photo ID?

I can’t possibly see how anybody can function in this world today without a photo ID.

Anyway your point is pointless as this has already been through the courts and your side lost.

High court lets states force voters to present photo ID
David G. Savage, Los Angeles Times
Tuesday, April 29, 2008

The 6-3 decision upheld Indiana’s voter ID law, the nation’s strictest, against a challenge from those who predicted it would deter thousands of poor, disabled and elderly people from voting.

But the plaintiffs failed to show that even a single voter had been blocked from exercising his or her rights in Indiana because of the 2005 law. That lapse probably doomed the legal challenge

Alternative ID
Many states with voter ID laws make it easier for people to comply by allowing them to furnish alternative forms of identification – such as a Social Security card, a utility bill or a student ID. But voting-rights advocates say the mere existence of such laws could cause
many eligible voters to stay home if they do not have an up-to-date driver’s license, a passport or another government-issued ID card.

Stevens said that number appeared to be quite small, because an estimated 99 percent of Indiana’s population had the necessary ID cards, according to the judge who tried the case.

Heh, rvastar, the laws are just for the conservatives.

While I know that you’re being facetious, Entelechy, what you say is actually the truth.

In his book, Rules for Radicals, commie Saul Alinsky – hero to Hillary and Obama – wrote:

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules.

Meanwhile, Dems never have to. Why? Because information that the US news media would use to excoriate any Republican candidate is simply ignored or actively suppressed when it’s a Democrat.

why not have a literacy test to vote?

Because neither the 15th Amendment, nor the National Voting Rights Act, includes a requirement for literacy. What they do require, is that the person voting be a “citizen of the United States”…as such, it is completely legal for the govt to require that someone showing up to vote be able to prove that they are, indeed, a citizen of this country.

I’m sorry, but I don’t just see the amendment or clause that states that voting is open to “whoever can make it to a polling station and vote Democratic”.

Update: Once again, just to clarify, John’s point isn’t that Obama voters are stupid.

Uh, well if it isn’t Ed, it Should Be…aaand in all 57 states, uh, “with one left to go” too.

Nice grammar Barky. Pick that one up at Harvard, did you?

“Most of the smears”

Your claiming the questions are smears, that are untrue or not news worthy.

So tell us which smears are true and newsworthy?

“You’re main problem is that you’re operating under the assumption that most of the smears”

“Most of the smears”

Your claiming the questions are smears, that are untrue or not news worthy.

So tell us which smears are true and newsworthy?

crr6 on December 3, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Well, on second thought, I guess they could receive help at the voting booth as a blind person can. However, that would also apply to your arguement as well about taking the bus…with a net change of zero to the weakness of your argument.

You need to read to take the right bus, find a street, read a menu, and get nearly any job, why not have a literacy test to vote?

crr6 on December 3, 2008 at 3:03 PM

This make sense to you? They have to read the candidate’s name on the ballot.

You need an id to buy ciggies, liquor, and cold medication.

conservativegrandma on December 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Outstanding.

Anything to say about these or the other points posted above conservativegrandma’s crr6?

I think that there is a good argument to be made that the threee I pasted above are more frequently encountered by these poor voters who don’t have a car or ID, than a voting booth.

Face it. ID is not a hiderance to the poor voting. Unless they have no desire to get a buzz in the bar or pick up a 40 at 7-11.

You need an id to buy ciggies, liquor, and cold medication. You need an id to cash a check, some places ask for id when you use debit/credit card.
You need an id to rent a stroller at the mall.
Voting should require prior registration with proof of citizenship and residence, then proof of id on day of voting.

conservativegrandma on December 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM

You need to read to take the right bus, find a street, read a menu, and get nearly any job, why not have a literacy test to vote?

However, the question that remains is will it pass normally or will it be like passing a kidney stone?

Marine_Bio on December 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Only time will tell but best to prepare for the stones! Remember : Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

Newsworthy is a good point, and one that the Zogby poll address, namely

93.8% of the Obama voters knew Palin’s daughter was pregnant.

Newsworthy? Yes, No.

86.3% of the Obama voters knew the RNC had bought Palin clothes.

Newsworthy? Yes, No

This season is no different and shall pass.

thomasaur on December 3, 2008 at 2:34 PM

However, the question that remains is will it pass normally or will it be like passing a kidney stone?