Here are a few stories that I thought might interest you…The silence is deafening….

Atlas Shrugged comes to mind.

Yes, except this time we are watchinhg the play live on TV as the world rots. Those of us who see it for what it is may noy be able to stop it, but we can damned well make sure the loonytunes left is forced to accept ownership of it. I for one will never allow them to just whine and cry that they didn’t mean for it to happen when the millions of innocents die in the next decade because their appeasement emboldens the beast. And that includes all the various pathologies that opted to grind their particular liberal axe at the expense of reason; the militant gays, the Code Pinkos, the wacko environmentalists, and the pro-drug, anti-Christian crowd. If you voted for Obama and his leftist minions, it is you who needs to wathc closely as the beast grows in front of your very eyes. That is what you traded your soul for.

yup…let’s roll.

Unfortunatly, our side just voted for a large step in the other direction. By voting for the new incoming US administration the people of the United State have ensured that millions more people will likly die to feed the beast long before we wake up to the fact that feeding it only makes it stronger. I would however, like to point out to the radical left that is not going to get its way, when you watch those deaths around the globe occur, it is you collectivly and individually who seald those poor people’s fate. Watch and cringe and understand that this was of your design, because you wanted to prove your make-love-not-war nonsense would convert the beast. It won’t and people will die because you wanted to prove something that is not provable.

I still think we need to isolate the foundations of Islam, go to those places where it breeds and kill the breeders, grind their bones to powder; and poison the wells, and the land and make certain the cancer is completely destroyed cell by malignant cell. When there is nothing left to come back from , then we can believe it will not come back. A good place to start would be to vaporize Mecca.

yup…let’s roll.

When you are granted cultural equivalence even if you engage in dark ages practices there is no need for self-examination and without self -examination there will be no progress in Islam.

So Friedman needs to look in the mirror if he wants to get some understanding as to why Islam is so backward.

So libreals, rather than blame The Great Liberator for the excesses of Islam put the blame where it really belongs- Muslims and those without the courage or the wisdom to confront the excesses of Islam.

When will Islam joim the civilized world?

When will liberals get a clue?

Subsunk on December 4, 2008 at 12:03 AM

I couldn’t agree more, Subsunk, as the first line in my quoted paragraph attests. Where I differ is on the backbone bit. I don’t see it happening, in my lifetime, at least.

There is only one way to remove the evil of Islam, and no-one is going to do it. Our only viable chance of continued existence is separation. Physically remove them from our locales, then we would need to go into their turf to suffer their ways. That is about the best “peace” we can hope for, when dealing with an implacable enemy.

OldEnglish on December 3, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Wrong.

Islam will change when they begin to see extreme consequences to horrible actions on their part, and because of their inaction and deference to evil people. Civilized conduct has rules. When they ignore those rules, they need to collectively reap the punishment. They have had more than ample chance to remove this cancer from their midst. All excuses are gone now. When wholesale slaughter is wrought in revenge of attacks just such as 9-11, Madrid, London, Bombay, and especially as seen in Iraq, then moderates will wake up because they will see they will be exterminated along with the bad if they don’t do something first. The Grave of the Hundred Head by Rudyard Kipling exemplifies what happens all too well when you have the backbone to exact punishment (not unfocused murder, but retribution against innocent and evil alike simply because the innocents tolerate the evil in their midst.)

Muslims will stop killing others when those they oppress strike back each and every time that we are struck.

It worked all through civilized history so. And it would work today as well. Those who deny it are fooling themselves. It isn’t coincidence that the Bible and the Koran are both based on an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. Once many of us are blind and toothless, our children will be able to live in Peace. But not before one of us is victorious and the other is vanquished. I intend to see Freedom be Victorious.

Subsunk

Brian, are ya hanging out in a bar in the PI?

…violent street protests against Danish cartoons that had satirized the Prophet Muhammad Mohammed ben-Abdullah.

Some of us don’t think he was a prophet.

Tom Friedman has long been considered a leading expert on foreign affairs, especially in the post-9/11 world. Liberals consider him one of their own, always seeking ways to use his ‘well-considered’ positions to leverage their cynical isola…

MikeA on December 3, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Actually, Mike, I think that the genetic angle existed prior to the advent of Islam. Historical and Biblical writings seem to bear out that fact. Naturally, that made it easier for them to formulate the Koran in its mantra of violence to non-believers. I believe that the Koran was edited and modified over several centuries, reflecting an ever hardening of stance. You’re right, of course, elimination is the only permanent solution, if they cannot turn themselves around.

Why would this surprise Friedman, given the history?

For the same reason the attacks themselves surprised the airhead MSNBC anchor last week, and why Michael Moore couldn’t believe the Sept. 11 terrorists attacked two cities that voted for Al Gore in 2000 — Tom thinks the terrorist see the world through the eyes of a partisan Democrat, and can’t believe they don’t understand that America elected Obama last month, and it’s time to stop the rage against the West.

Friedman’s actually ahead of the curve here compared to other big media print and TV pundits and reporters. Expect others to start realizing that Muslim fundamentalists have no idea and don’t care what the 2008 Red State/Blue State map looks like over the next year or so.

OldEnglish on December 3, 2008 at 7:32 PM

OK, I see that in there. You just tried to nuance it and I said it outright. The only solution is to kill them off.

No one seems to be willing to discuss the hard realities involved with a culture that is hundreds of generations old in which every aspect of the populations existance favors the individuals who are the most unstable, violent and prone to doing evil things for unimaginable reasons. The reason they can’t be changed for their path is because their culture has deeply affected their genetics to the point that they are what they are for the same reasons a pitbull is what it is. It would take another 1,000 years to reverse that breeding.

MikeA on December 3, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Agreed. That’s what I stated in my second paragraph.

With all this talk of bombing Muslims into submission, I think that people are missing the point. It is possible to bomb a state into submission, but not the ideology itself.

I think you are missing the point. No one I know has ever talked seriously about bombing them into submission. They are not capable of submission in the sense it would take to stop this lunacy. The bombing would be to end their existence, not their beliefs. We in the West have failed over and over again to grasp that these barbarians are not something to talk out of their centuries old rage. We always stop short of doing what needs to be done, because we think we can scare them into stopping their evil against us. That has not happened in the past 1500 years and it won’t in the next 1500 either. They will need to be killed until at least their numbers are reduced enough to be manageable by the idiots among us that want to try one more time to save them from the consequences of their own inability to coexist with humans.

There is only one way to remove the evil of Islam, and no-one is going to do it. Our only viable chance of continued existence is separation. Physically remove them from our locales, then we would need to go into their turf to suffer their ways. That is about the best “peace” we can hope for, when dealing with an implacable enemy.

Would the names of moderate muslims mean anything to you? We have 2 muslim congressmen, a whole bunch of state legislators, judges and what not, and this is in the US alone…

Great Sage on December 3, 2008 at 3:49 PM

The only reason they appear to be “moderate” is because they have not reached critical mass yet. I ask you oh great sage where in the world with a sizable Muslim majority or minority is there not violence if Islam is not the State or where sharia has not been demanded.

Just to keep it simple as you search, where is there not violence of the most beastly kind wherever there are Muslims in great numbers. Where?

They are active cancer cells. Their religion, a totalitarian political movement, demands it.