Murkowski warns Palin: If you want my seat, prepare for war
posted at 2:58 pm on December 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Two young pols, one with presidential ambitions, the other the daughter of the man her rival beat to become governor, vying to inflict a career-ruining defeat upon her rival. It’s not a primary race; it’s a Lifetime movie of the week.
If it happens, I shall demand to be transferred to Hot Air’s Alaska bureau, that I might taste the drama firsthand.
Murkowski, up for reelection in 2010, is nervously awaiting word on whether John McCain’s former running mate will run against her in the GOP primary. But she says Palin is the one who should be nervous.
“I can guarantee it would be a very tough election,” Murkowski said in an interview…
That argument is not lost on Murkowski, who points to her rising seniority in the Senate and her ascension to the top Republican spot on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, replacing retiring Sen. Pete V. Domenici (R-N.M.).
“One thing that Alaskans clearly appreciate is seniority,” said Murkowski, who was appointed to the Senate in 2002 by her father, who had just won the governor’s race. “If she were to kind of move me over, if you will, to run for national office again at the expense at this seniority that’s been built, I don’t know if Alaskans would look too favorably on that.
Are Alaskans that attuned to the vagaries of committee assignments? Sufficiently so that they’d rather have seniority on the energy panel than send to the Senate the most famous proponent of drilling in America, who can drive the issue simply by leveraging the media’s obsession with her? If yes, they’re not crazy: Remember, it was Hillary’s inability to convert her celebrity into meaningful power that supposedly drove her to accept the State position. If Palin tries this, though, it almost certainly means she’s going to pass on 2012 and concentrate on 2016. Otherwise, what’s the point? She’ll endure one death match in 2010 to knock off Murkowski — only to turn around immediately and face another in the GOP primaries? Granted, Obama went almost directly from a Senate campaign to a presidential campaign, but (a) he had two years in between to build some very nominal national experience and (b) he desperately needed to raise his media profile before taking a crack at the Democratic nomination. Palin wouldn’t have time for (a) and doesn’t have to worry about (b). If she’s serious about challenging The One, her best bet is running again for governor. If not, bring on the drama.
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Man, I bet it’s beautiful up there. Greta was interviewing Sarah at her house and the view of the landscape was great.
She definately needs to remain as Governor and build her credentials. Stay away from the Beltway Elite.
kingsjester on December 2, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I love the idea of the Whitehouse Press Corp going to Alaska in the Winter time following POTUS Palin
jp on December 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM
That background was on the Talkeetna range.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM
upinak, are you allowed to hunt Musk Ox? I thought they were being reintroduced (There’s that whole compound in Palmer, no? Is it still there, where they toss that pipeline pig around like a beach ball?). Or are they being raised as food animals as well?
Caribou marinade (try on tenderloins):
1/2 cup soy sauce
2 tablespoons Shiraz (drink the rest)
2 cloves garlic, crushed
1 tablespoon honey
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1/2 teaspoon fresh grated ginger
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon (pref. McCormick Saigon cinnamon)
Mix well, marinate overnight, cook as you please.
DrSteve on December 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM
And this b**ch Lisa Murkowski claims she is Catholic?
F**k her to Hell. It seems to be her choice.
I don’t think Sarah should run against Lisa because it will hurt her chances at the POTUS I think. Plus, it is an old boys club and will drive her nuts. keep the outsider image and take Washington from the outside.
However, if Sarah ran against Lisa, Sarah would cream her due to all the past corruption that Lisa is connected to.
Murkowski was also one of those Senate GOP that blocked Frist’s efforts to end the use of the filibuster for court appointments.
Lisa is a RINO, and corrupt. Although I would like Sarah to take her down, it would be an unnecessary distraction from her POTUS ambitions.
Sapwolf on December 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM
You have to apply for a Permit. You can hunt them up towards Delta Junction.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Sarah, stay teh hell away from the US Senate, a worthless hellhole populated by lowlifes. There are better things in store for you.
btw, who the f* is Lisa Murkowski?
james23 on December 2, 2008 at 5:05 PM
upinak:
Caribou = Reindeer, correct?
jp on December 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM
yes reindeer is the “domesticated” caribou. Yummy!
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:07 PM
how does it compare to Deer meat? I like Buffalo, not really Deer.
jp on December 2, 2008 at 5:08 PM
No, just insight from someone who’s actually, you know, on the scene.
ddrintn on December 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I don’t know. While I’d prefer her to run for re-election and stay in Alaska, I think adding some first hand Washington experience to her resume might make her more well rounded.
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I think her decision has to be dictated by the first two years of Obama. If his presidency is believed to be successful (I don’t know how it could be as a mirror of the Clinton cabinet), she should run for the Senate seat, take four years there and run in 2016. It would be difficult to unseat “The One” under that scenario. If he’s floundering in foreign policy dilemmas and economic difficulties, run for governer again and take him in 2012.
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I’d love to see a Palin/Romney ticket. I just don’t know if he would go for it. But he has the economic expertise to handle what’s going on. Obama, nor the Clinton disciples have a clue.
stacman on December 2, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Ok Moose is close to elk but not as gamey. Elk and deer are simular, but elk eat more trees (up here) and the small deer eat more weeds. From what I have noticed and berries tso it is kind of sweet, compared to the deer in Wyoming which is kind of lemony tasting. No clue why.
Caribou is just different all the way around. It isn’t gamey but it is no where near Buffalo (which is a favorite of mine when I can get it). It is very lean but when you eat just the meat.. it is very un-flavorful. that is why many people make beef sticks or sausage out of it. It takes the flavors of the spices better then any other game.
Think about it.. Caribou eat.. this really dry moss, enormous amounts. This moss has no taste.. so the meat would have the same type of “flavor” so to speak. If anything the moss taste like sage-ish grass. But not heavy. It isn’t bad. I would go for reindeer/caribou sausage … I am sure you will like it.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:14 PM
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:14 PM
thanks, sounds good anyway. Our sausage/bacon/hotdogs are mostly Pig guts in the south, although Turkey bacon is getting more popular.
what made me think of this was Palin on Greta, fixing Caribou Dogs and Moose Stew.
jp on December 2, 2008 at 5:20 PM
I like Buffalo too. My family has it mixed at the butcher to make Beefalo. The Buffalo is so lean, we have a cow butchered and when you mix it with beef, it makes great Burgers. God I love meat.
I like Elk too, but haven’t been hunting in years. My brother went this year, he still had his tag valid so he tried but failed.
portlandon on December 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM
upinak: You add lots of spice and savvy to threads about Alaska. I appreciate your imput.
What does Sarah Palin want from Obama when she, as part of the 40 governors sharing brotherly love, meets THE ONE in Philadelphia to discuss the economy? Cutting through federal agency bureaucracy to make that gas pipe line a reality in order to have energy independence/economic boost and ensure national security is tops on the list.
Check out this freeper post since one of the later commenters lists the stranglehold of regulations that the energy business must meet. The original article comes from a blog called MenforPalin. (You have to love it!)
onlineanalyst on December 2, 2008 at 5:38 PM
My friends, I’m just doing my best to provide an alternate perspective on AK than that conveyed by my neighbor upinak.
One small example: when the conversation at our Thanksgiving dinner table inevitably turned to our crazy sarah, we learned that three (of eight) had sent their entire pfd check to the Obama campaign. Two of those three had voted for her.
And I wasn’t even one of the three… I always send my pfd to the ACLU.
benny shakar on December 2, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Sarah please don’t do it. Work on the Gas pipeline and finish up becoming an excellent governor. Also take Red States advice! Get a teacher and make yourself well verse on worldly matters.
With Obama attempting “stimulus” side economics that has NEVER EVER WORKED (EVER!!!) I believe the oppurtunity is right there for him to be had in 4 years (Unless the media gets even more pathetic then they are now and the public just doesn’t care what the hell he does…yikes!). FDR try this crap (Lots of excellent books recently destroying the Crap Deal) as well as LBJ and that idiot Jimmy Carter. They all pretty much failed. This has never worked in reviving the economy.
Greg Minikew had an excellent post about Government Deficit spending and how it’s surprisingly (to him at least) weakly stimulates the economy compares to the Private sector. (The answer is easy for any supply sider)
Dritanian on December 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
wow oneline… that IS interesting.
But the fact remains that the Gas Pipeline IS a State of Alaska not Federal. The only Federal regulations is when it goes through Federal land. Now that is the problem. And no one I saw had that listed.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Every human in Alsaka don’t like Sarah? Shocker…
Dritanian on December 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM
benny you ARE the alternative of Alaska. That is the problem. You (more like your little group) is the reason for the Environmental junkies we have up here, stopping ANWR, Ooogruk, North Cook Inlet and the famed Evergreen Gas Project. Not to mention the multiple operations concerning Mining and other Natural Resource items like the Sutton Coal Mine.
Why is it that I, compared to you.. seem to know more about Alaska? I was raised up here. With many of the Democrats, Republicans and in some cases their children. It is interesting how you say one thing and I can counter what you have said Evry damn time. Such as:
You know that isn’t true…. so why bother saying it.
It is people like you whom live in MY State (if you actually do live here I have yet to see anything of substance) That give Alaskans a bad name.
How about you just slither off … you are good at doing that. Don’t let the 9 degrees of balmy heat, frost bite that tail now.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM
I think the only group of people who might consider a tour in the Senate an impressive credential to add to her resume are the handful of RINOs inside the Beltway and other elitist strongholds. The average American doesn’t care about the alleged pedigree, which is why we so infrequently elect them. That and the fact that, at least in the last 100 years, with a possible exception or two, most have proven mediocre, ineffectual, or both (I expect Obama to go to the head of the class in that respect).
I think she is much better off staying where she is, running for governor again in 2010 and throwing her hat in the ring for 2012. As others have mentioned, she can get the pipeline built (or at least well on its way) in that time, and it will give her opportunity to bone up on some topics so the next time Katie Couric or Charlie Gibson springs a pop quiz on her, she will be more than prepared for their inane, hair-splitting questions.
She’s already a celebrity of sorts and provided the RINOs and party leadership will get out of the way, there is plenty of opportunity for her to shine in the national spotlight over the next four years, particularly on energy matters. And if she were in the Senate she would, like Hillary, be constantly frustrated at having no authority or power due to her junior status, so there wouldn’t be much opportunity to really make a mark of any significance. We’re well past the days of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Between that and the relentless corruption she’d have to deal with, she might go out of her mind.
NoLeftTurn on December 2, 2008 at 6:10 PM
I love how folks like upinak (and crazy sarah) think they can identify “real Americans” and “real Alaskans.” Of course this archaic thinking is what led the GOP to two huge defeats in the 2004 and 2008 elections.
Oh, and just because you don’t realize sarah hasn’t been in Juneau since the election doesn’t mean its untrue. In fact, I bet this happens to you all the time.
benny shakar on December 2, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Stay in Alaska, refuse bailouts, run a fiscally sound budget, improve the life of Alaskan’s, visit the troops deployed abroad into harms way (if she goes once she will go more than the next President). And most of all just be yourself. Don’t forget to swing by Chicago and slap Oprah around her own stage while your at it.
Hog Wild on December 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Would you like to call the Gov. Office? Juneau or Anchorage or the Fairbanks office (yep she has one of those too).
I guess it comes to a surprise to you that she actually went to Fairbanks quite a bit before the election to see her son, which wasn’t in the papers. Or down to Kenai to do town halls there, on her own dime (via her and her husbands airplane) the day before they went commercial fishing which wasn’t in the papers either.
Benny do you have her little schedule on hand? Hmmmmmmmmmm
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Sarah Palin is not running for the Senate. That is a fool’s move and she is no fool.
Jdripper on December 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM
‘Outsiders’? I’ll have you know that I can rattle off the Capitals of all 57 states in 30 seconds.
What a complete Toilet Bug.
BigWyo on December 2, 2008 at 6:24 PM
I still don’t agree with any attempt to shove Palin permanently onto the national stage at this point. Joining the McCain ticket is excuseable. That was a once-in-the lifetime opportunity that was not likely to repeat itself. But now that she is a national figure, she needs to check some of that ambition and successfully govern Alaska. There is still plenty of time down the road if she really wants to take a crack at national office, but now is not the time.
Sign of the Dollar on December 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM
yes of course, that huge defeat in 2004 where President Bush was re-elected to a 2nd term and the GOP added 4 seats in the Senate
big time loss for the GOP there
joey24007 on December 2, 2008 at 6:48 PM
I think Gov. Palin is better off as a governor for now.
Long Live Sarah ‘cuda!
Zorro on December 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Upinak:
Benny is a flea…not even troll status. Ignore.
Chewy the Lab on December 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Sign of the Dollar: Why should Sarah check some of that ambition-I think she can govern Alaska and still have national ambition. It’s like saying a baseball player can’t be both a good hitter and good fielder. Our gal can walk and chew gum at the same time. Sarah is a raw talent, a prodigy, a diamond in the rough. Sure she needs to nurture her abilities, refine her speeches and be better prepared when granting interviews. But she has 4 years to get better and as I have said in an earlier post superstars rarely regress-they just get better and better over time. That simply is a fundamental law of nature–the strong get stronger and the weak get weaker (without of course any artificial intervention like government regulation).
technopeasant on December 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM
yes, it is tough to lose
joey24007 on December 2, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Murkowski is the greatest example out there…OF NEPOTISM! The Country Club Commie Lite better watch her back if The ‘Cuda One wants to take her on.
BobAnthony on December 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Do you have a link? I guess I’ll see it at about the same time I see your explication of Obama’s scholarly achievements.
ddrintn on December 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Now that is a fascinating statement. Why would you and like-minded others sit around and discuss Sarah Palin? Genuine question there. Is Obama that boring?
ddrintn on December 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Wow! Two Alaskans in a deathmatch here on a HA thread?
I gotta say, I didn’t see that coming.
;)
wccawa on December 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM
well their thanksgiving prayer was to Obama so …
Obama giveth our welfare and food stamps
in the name of the liberalism, big government and Barack Obama
joey24007 on December 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM
I will win.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Well, to be honest, I put my money on you from the start. :)
wccawa on December 2, 2008 at 7:41 PM
This Murkowski woman sounds like a paranoid shrew with delusions of entitlement. She should maybe concentrate on her freakin job and worry about whomever she’ll face in the primary when the time comes.
CantCureStupid on December 2, 2008 at 7:47 PM
she saw what happened to her kingpin dad after he got in the Cuda’s way
joey24007 on December 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM
If she’s worried about a challenge from a conservative, maybe she should, I don’t know, become more conservative herself to consolidate her position and minimize the challenge?
But I’m no political genius like the Senate RINOs, so what do I know?
Jim62sch on December 2, 2008 at 7:58 PM
And it’s open for all to share. At least the Juneau house is…
ramrocks on December 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Please, Sarah, stay away from the Senate…only “good ‘ol boy” mediocrity and Ivy League mendacity reside within those marbled halls…You can only be stained by its proximity…Keep Alaska the great State it is, work on that pipeline, and stay in the national spotlight with ANWAR promotion…A state budget in the black, one of only 9 states, is one hell of a resume enhancer and trumps any possible senate strategy….Good luck, Gal…You’ll have my vote, again….
b4lucy on December 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Allahpundit, you’ve been asked nicely. Please use another picture of Sarah Palin. This picture is insulting and it’s getting old.
Don’t be boring. Get a new, decent picture.
pabarge on December 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Its not as though Murkowski were doing anything with the seat!
Lonetown on December 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM
I agree that for most governors looking at the presidency it would be better to stay as a governor.
But for Palin there will always be questions, valid or not, about the small population in Alaska. “Yes she was governor, but Alaska only has a 700,000 or so people.”
kcewa on December 2, 2008 at 8:29 PM
I don’t want Gov. Palin in the Senate. She can do much, much more as a governor.
SouthernGent on December 2, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Memo to Murkowski: Worked pretty good for the guy who’ll be taking office in January…
That being said, if ‘Cudda wanted it, it would be her’s. I don’t think she wants it though. Americans are going to be looking for executive experience to replace the Epic Fail.
Murkowski’s threat of “battle” are laughable at best. Palin survived the most vicious onslaught ever launched against a political candidate in the history of this country by the political equivilant of La Cosa Nostra.
The “battle” would be remanicent of Canae.
Guess who gets to be Rome, Senator?
SuperCool on December 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Sarah should be reelected as governor. Screw the Senate – it is filled with refuse! Harry Reid is holding the garbage bag. How can Nevada elect this piece of garbage?
Neocon Peg on December 2, 2008 at 9:03 PM
and not even bother taking off the overcoat too..
DaveC on December 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Its great fun seeing all the opinions about a hypothetical race between a politician most of you hadn’t heard of 3 months ago challenging one you hadn’t heard of three hours ago!
benny shakar on December 2, 2008 at 9:23 PM
This coming from an elitist liberal. Give me a break.. not all of the people inhere are as dumb as you think they are.
upinak on December 2, 2008 at 9:27 PM
For the love of God, man! Enough with the Palin Wink photo! Is there no other picture of the woman?
Pilgrimsarbour on December 2, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Yeah, well, we have a President-elect that apparently no one had heard of before 4 years ago, except for some loopy groups in Chicago.
ddrintn on December 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Her “little” state is the largest in the nation and one of our leading (or perhaps the leading) supplier of domestic oil.
ramrocks on December 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I agree the Senate is Not a positive career move, Presidential ambitions or not.
Good point actually, hmmmm, a short stop in the Senate on the way to Presidential aspirations. Yep, been there, dont that. Don’t want to revisit there.
RuffledRaven on December 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Murkowski is small fish, like bait. The Cuda is after bigger prey.
Geochelone on December 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM
You are trying to appeal with reason to Allahpundit? He is using the same photo on purpose. It is just another sleezeball tactic of his. Like distorting headlines for attention.
Geochelone on December 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I read somewhere that it’s impossible to buy moose meat because it’s illegal to sell wild game. Some swanky restaurant in D.C. or NYC was trying to purchase moose for a special election menu and they couldn’t. I think the closes they could get was elk purchased for Canada or some place other than Alaska.
ramrocks on December 2, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Now, now people- I would not be so hasty in dismissing Benny here. Benny could be right.
It sure does sound like she, as in Lisa Murkowski, may very well be trying to stay relevant in her own state.
After all, Lisa was the top female elected official in the state of Alaska until Sarah Palin. After what happened to her father and Governor Palin’s explosion in popularity, good ole’ Lisa may be feeling a little neglected in her own state.
It was, after all, Lisa Murkowski, who took a jab at Sarah, not the other way around.
So Benny could actually be correct here. Poor ole’ Lisa Murkowski may just be trying to stay relevant and have the final say on all things Alaskan.
Yes- I am being sarcastic.
kcarpenter on December 2, 2008 at 11:44 PM
This is a political soap opera, like most threads based on a politico story. Admittedly, I don’t read the politico, but most of the stories out of there seem to be yellow journalism. I, for one, am exhausted by hype.
Give me sources, or give me silence.
anti-boomer on December 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM
I think Murkowski is talking about Piper Palin.
Mr. Wednesday Night on December 3, 2008 at 2:35 AM
Seems like Murkowski is the second runner-up sniping at the prom queen. Petty and ineffective.
SKYFOX on December 3, 2008 at 5:01 AM
Good to know about this, Sapwolf. It doesn’t look healthy in the long term to have someone like Murkowski in power who has a motive to undermine Palin, on multiple levels.
Perhaps Palin should support a strong non-RINO candidate to run against Murkowski in the primary, someone loyal to Palin, so that there’s a 2-for-1 payoff?
It would require a viable candidate and the right circumstances, otherwise it might end up hurting. I don’t know if there’s anyone remotely qualified or available, but IMHO it would be better for the country if the governor of the most energy-producing state and the ranking senator on Energy were able to work together as [natural] partners / allies.
RD on December 3, 2008 at 6:59 AM
Aha , that explains the more seniority part.
the_nile on December 3, 2008 at 7:30 AM
I’m starting to think you’re a fake. You’re a condescending prick for sure.
DrSteve on December 3, 2008 at 8:14 AM
I am an Alsakan resident and if Gov Palin chooses that route, I would vote for her. She is going to do well in whatever capacity she seeks. She is the real deal, not someone who is in it for themselves.
Sven on December 3, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Benny Shaker is a lousy debater, for instance on anohter thread Shaker refused to answer what Kerry’s plan for Iraq was in 2004. The thread was about GWB’s presidency and Shaker couldn’t figure out how Kerry lost. After repeated attempts to try and figure out Kerrys plan was I gave up and Benny knows that Kerry lost because of his unability to answer questions about Iraq if he was president. Here, Benny probably has no idea how to pump up the economy either. His Brezhnev ideas have proven in the old USSR doesn’t work either.
garydt on December 3, 2008 at 10:01 AM
RD on December 3, 2008 at 6:59 AM
Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell.
gippergal1984 on December 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM
No, you can buy it. But the moose (or whatever) has to be processed. You can’t buy game that is not.
Do you think Sean Parnell will go after Lisa’s seat?
That would be ideal in my opinion.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM
I think Sean came darned close to edging out Young in the primary, no?
gippergal1984 on December 3, 2008 at 12:03 PM
upinak, stick to your guns, here I sit in MY native state of Colorado that has been run blue by the left and east coast enviro-whackos moving in. Sucks, but all we can do is continue to pray and tell the truth that the godless media refuses to tell.
kirkill on December 3, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Palin fanboy joey in the house gushing over “his Sarah”. What a jackass.
dakine on December 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM
yep 250 votes shy.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM
aww crap I have to buy more guns?!
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I have written to Michelle Malkin to complain about Allahpundit’s tactics with the Sarah Palin winking picture. I suggest that more of us email her and ask her to do something about Allahpundit’s rude behavior and insults to Sarah. You can write Michelle here: writemailkin@gmail.com.
pabarge on December 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I read somewhere that he didn’t exactly run the best campaign he could have. What were your impressions upinak? If true, he’ll probably have to up his game if he decides to run against Murkowski.
meltenn on December 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Umm as much as Allah and I don’t get along. How does his “tactics” differ from the MSM or Fox concerning their headlines.
Grow Up.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Sean did a pretty good campaign. He didn’t give Young crap (kept it clean I should say) concerning the Veco items and other things. But this was the primary.
Young on the other hand, at the end, started smearing everyone for the Primary. But the worst was this guy from Florida who moved up here and smeared EVERYONE. He got about 8% of the vote… and I think he left State because he was so hated for his nasty commericals.
Sean could run against Lisa. He and he both have served on the Alaska Senate… they know each other pretty well.
I think anyone (Republican) who ran against Lisa would probably win.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Is that you, Andrew?
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM
That wouldn’t surprise me. Andrew is such a freaking maggot.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM
He seems to have very little self respect. I can’t imagine a more pathetic end to a defeated candidate than to spend all day writing sniping nonsense about the person who cleaned your clock.
I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed watching any other out-of-side CSPAN aired political debate as much as that gubernatorial debate between Palin, Knowles, and Halcro. I’m a California, so I can’t claim to understand the minutia of local political issues being debated, but the overall tone was clear and I could tell who won. Halcro came across as the smarmiest snottiest SOB I’ve ever heard. Knowles came across as some sort of weird mixture of Mr. Rogers meets Jimmy Bakker (with that creepy smile and odd accent) and Palin came across as everybody’s friend, sister, wife or daughter talking common sense with a killer smile. My first impression of her was that she reminds me of my sister-in-law (whom she actually resembles) and if anyone could clean up dysfunctional organizations and get things done it would be my sister-in-law. I’ve said it before — Sarah Palin reminds me of that movie “Dave”. My favorite scene in it is when the Charles Grodin character balances the national budget by using common sense like any small business owner.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Oops. That was supposed to be “out-of-state”.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 1:09 PM
The guy is the Alaska CEO of Budget Rental. Need I say more?
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 1:15 PM
That debate was great! The best part was the ‘Cuda’s zing about what positions she would hire Halcro and Knowles for in her administration.
meltenn on December 3, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I’ve always preferred Hertz and Enterprise. This is just another reason why.
But seriously, it’s almost comical to watch how deranged this guy is about Palin. It’s embarrassing. Part of you just wants to take him aside and say, “please, just get over it already. You lost.”
It’s also kind of amusing to see liberals fit perfectly with their stereotype.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM
I loved that one! That lie about hiring Halcro as a statistician just killed! You could practically hear everyone at home watching guffaw at that one.
Actually, for sheer enjoyment, you should also take a look at her primary debate between Murkowski and a guy named Binkley. At one point, the two guys just descended into bickering like schoolboys and Sarah finally said, “enough, Alaskans deserve better.” I think that was the moment when she won the primary election. (Am I right, upinak?)
At another point, she compared Murkowski’s strong arm tactics to those of a used car salesman and recalled that the last time she purchased a truck she had to demand to speak with the salesman’s boss. Then without missing a beat, she said that she wanted to speak with the boss now and asked where Murkowski’s wife was. Hilarious! And Murkowski laughed with her. It was great.
At the final kicker in that debate was when the candidates were asked if they would support in the general election whichever of their rivals won the primary. Murkowski and Binkley both dutifully agreed, but Palin’s answer was “I hope to be able to support” whoever wins. The guys then started whining about this as if they were hurt by her rejection. Binkley said, “Come on, Sarah, I’d support you.” It was so absurd it was comical.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM
He kept popping up in stories during the campaign to provide negative quotes too (and made numerous appearances around the debate so that he could be snide and condescending on a bigger stage). I noticed that there was a lot of that during the campaign. The same people were quoted in stories about Palin over and over, and lo and behold, they were all political rivals. The ADN editorial page is pretty liberal, but even they took the AP to task when they quoted only people who were opposed to pipeline bill that passed.
meltenn on December 3, 2008 at 1:43 PM
You can watch it here.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Thanks I’ll check it out. Hey, upinak what’s the deal with Lyda? What started the bad blood between them?
meltenn on December 3, 2008 at 1:51 PM
No, Murkowski lost WAY before the debate. The beginning of the Gas Pipeline was the start. Frank kept everything closed doored to everyone. The Public more or less had had enough of the BS. He kept everyone on their toes that worked for the State concerning the “project” and negotiations. Including hiring someone by the name of Pedro Van Muer, whom the State of Alaska (public) were paying him 1 MILLION a year for his “expertise” in something he had NO clue about. And the Oil and Gas Companies whom were going to make it big… were BP, Exxon and ConocoPhillips (in which Conoco pulled out because most of the workers were not brought up to work but actual Alaskans). It was a huge MESS Murkowski put us in and dragging feet of State workers helped quite a bit to shed light.
Mark Myers was the Div. of Oil and Gas Director, Tom Irwin (Commissioner) and Marty Rutherford (deputy Commissioner) who all worked for the Dept of Natural Resources (including 4 other Directors from the Natural Resources all QUIT due to Frank Murkowski not listening to them, who was working FOR the Public. Being that Alaska has a small population, evenyone knew what had happened. Murkowski tried to be re-elected, yet forgot about the Magnificent 7 that quit due to him… and that is where Murkowski lost the vote.
Sarah won over Tony Knowles, because Alaska didn’t like what he did the last time he was Gov. and he sucked. The only props I give Tony was for helping with Veterans.. as he is also a Veteran.
Alaska is to small to screw people over. Sarah realizes that.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Lyda is a jealous wench who has from the beginning said Sarah is just a beauty queen.
Lyda went and called Sarah a B1tch once on paper. I can’t stand her… I also think she is linked to a lot of Veco issues and no one is able to bring her down… yet.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM
BTW I know many of these people personally.. via work or other means.
I DO know what is going on in my State. I am not going to lie about it.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I think that is only a question of whether Palin wants to be in the senate or wants another term as governor. She should be able to win either. If she keeps a high profile the governors gig should be better for her prospects.
duff65 on December 3, 2008 at 1:58 PM
That’s why we like hearing what you have to say! It’s difficult to get a sense of what people up there think just by reading the comments posted at the ADN website because it seems as if out of state lefties are flooding the comment boards. And the paper in general seems like a liberal rag.
I’ve never visited Alaska myself, but I’ve often wanted to. It has a sort of fantastic quality about it for the rest of us. My brother spent a lot of time there on business a few years ago and fell in love with it.
I’m still amazed by the fact that there are over ten times as many people in LA county as in your entire state! Boggles the mind. I can imagine that it’s easy for everyone to know someone who knows someone who works for the governor, etc.
ramrocks on December 3, 2008 at 2:21 PM
ADN is owned by the California tycoon papers. I think you know of which I talk about. So of course they are going to link ADN to the lefties paper in Cali.
need I say more?
As for the Gov., I have spoken with Sarah on Many occations. I know Frank personally as well as Tony and I was raised around the Hickels. This States has the samll town feel more then anyone knows. And it doesn’t matter where they live either.
upinak on December 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM
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