John McCain is/was one of those politicians who like Joe Lieberman had a unique point of view and wanted to be fair to all as well as more freedom, not less. Sadly sometimes that means some of us end up being wrong.

HotAirJosef on November 27, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Fair to all? Clearly not fair to the ‘bigots and nativists’ he held in so much contempt. What fairness is involved to those who spend years obeying the laws of immigration only to have amnesty passed instead? What about being fair to the people who voted for him based on his word regarding border security and immigration?

He has now talked with Obama about co-operating on breaking everything he promised to the people who sent him money, campaigned for him, and voted for him. What about his ‘fairness’ to Sarah Palin who come at his request to campaign for him, bringing huge numbers of conservatives on board who otherwise wouldn’t have peed on John McCain if he was on fire? Where was his fairness when she was attacked by HIS campaign staff? From him nothing but silence. It would seem that much vaunted fairness is solely reserved for leftists like Obama who he defended because someone dared to use his middle name.

Your definition of fairness strikes me as rather bizarre.

sharrukin on November 27, 2008 at 10:03 PM

I heard that on the radio about McCain. I wrote him a email on that. I am pretty upset with that. The illegals have been a big cause in this financial crisis. Here in Ca. There are almost 4 million homes in foreclosure. Most were bought from Illegals. Not kidding either. He did promise to secure the borders, and take care of the illegals. I was astounded when I heard that on the news.

sheebe on November 27, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Sadly he isn’t a man to be trusted. Certainly not by a conservative. He does tend to keep his word to leftists though… so there is that.

Securing the border with a fence would be 8-10 months work. Pass a law that allows illegals to sue their employer for ten times their wages and lost benefits if they had been legal, and you would see employers suddenly checking to see if someone was legal or not.

sharrukin on November 27, 2008 at 10:17 PM

How many of these public security/rebuilding forces will be recruited from non-citizens? Is that acceptable to you lefties? I really want to know. Is an official arm of the Federal government going to be made up of foreign mercenaries?

Limerick on November 28, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Sadly we are in some already doing so with PMC’s. I never liked the widespread development of these companies, but Bush was trustworthy if mistaken in using them. What scares the bejeepers out of me is Obama and the lefties who just know they are right and want the rest of us to fall in line having access to foreign personnel like that. The use of Blackwater personnel during Katrina was not something that struck me as a good development. In the pay of the wrong people, things could go very wrong.

This is what I have been saying for a while. This is the scariest part of this Creature. No one is taking my guns. I will shoot and probably go to prison. I don’t care anymore. I do care, but not when it comes to being treated like a child. Mercenaries is a very real and frightful indeed.

sheebe on November 28, 2008 at 12:18 AM

“THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FREE: THE GERMANS, 1933-45″
by Milton Mayer
The University of Chicago Press
From the chapter, “But then it was too late” pages 169 to 172, 1966 edition.

“You see,” my colleague went on, “one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.”
“Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’
“And you ARE an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh- pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.”
“But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.”

This is the real danger. When do we know and when do we act? It will happen by dribs and drabs, not all at once.

sharrukin on November 28, 2008 at 12:36 AM