Peggy Noonan: The media wants to make Palin the face of the GOP

posted at 12:43 pm on November 26, 2008 by Allahpundit

It’s true, isn’t it? Palinmania’s always had a perverse “strange bedfellows” dynamic insofar as the base is convinced she’s the savior of conservatism while the left’s convinced she’s the ruin of it. Hence their mutual interest in raising her profile. (For a stark illustration of the point, hold your nose and watch the “Thank You” parody at HuffPo’s humor site.) It’s no mystery which camp Noonan’s in; what is a mystery is the extent to which each side’s simply reacting and overreacting to the other, goading each other into ratcheting up the praise and vilification in an endless backlash cycle. Douthat names that as a key omission from my post about the difference between Palin and Huck, in fact: While Huckabee’s always been chummy with the national media, notwithstanding the occasional Rolling Stone piece calling him a lunatic, she’s been derided since day one. Since there are few better gauges of conservative authenticity among the grassroots than press treatment — just ask Maverick — Huck will forever trail her in the great bona fides sweepstakes.

Long story short, the left’s laying a bet that she’ll be easy pickings down the line and the right’s laying a bet that she’s here to save the day. And the pot just keeps getting bigger and bigger. How lucky do you feel? Click the image to watch.


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Well, I’m for her if for no other reason than Noonan is against her.

It's Vintage, Duh on November 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Ah – a twofer! Parker and Noonan.

Loved the screencap!

kybowexar on November 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

That’s it, Peggy! Keep your chin up!

Oops! You don’t have one, sorry.

pseudonominus on November 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

So far, Palin is the best face on the GOP.

Too Noonan - Bite Me

Kini on November 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Better that Palin be the face of the GOP than Noonan based on that picture. She should just go away, my level of concern for opinion is about -10000000%.

echosyst on November 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Well, if Parker, Noonan and the press think that Sarah Palin should be the face of the party then who am I to argue.

Palin 2012

johnsteele on November 26, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Hey Peggy…bye.

CP on November 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Allah, you have a freakish screencap talent.

Pasalubong on November 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM

It will be interesting to see how Sarah evolves in the next year or two, regardless of the left’s Machiavellian designs. The leadership vacuum at the top of the conservative movement is hers to fill. Will she step in?

whitetop on November 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM

SarahCuda,the face of the GOP!

H#ll ya,Duh!:)

canopfor on November 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Nonnan calling Gov. Palin … Mrs. Palin is just her way of demeaning Sarah.

Hey None-an. If you could have anymore plastic surgury you would start looking like pelosi!

upinak on November 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Actually, I kind of agree with Noonan but I have a different motive for the media for building Palin up. I wouldn’t be surprised if the media does build Palin up a little before 2012. Having a woman and a African-American compete for the presidency is the left’s dream. Look how they covered Hillary vs. Obama? They couldn’t get enough.

terryannonline on November 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM

I think that right now, it’s irrelevant. It’s like trying to pick the winner of the 2012 World Series (or Superbowl). A lot of things are going to change in the next four years, just like they do every four years – or even less than that. To paraphrase PJ O’Rourke – remember when between 2000 and 2003 George H.W. Bush went from being ultra-popular to the guy who might be dropped from the Dan Quayle ticket.

My take, for what it’s worth (see above) is that Palin is solidly defined on both the hard left and the hard right, and these perceptions will be almost impossible to change. It’s how she gets defined the middle (I have no idea) that will be a true assessment of her viability. So from an electability standpoint it really doesn’t matter what we think – the choir’s sold; what about everyone else?

ErikTheRed on November 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM

I like her a lot, but unless Obama steps on his appendage big time and can’t wriggle out of it, I’m afraid she wouldn’t have a chance against him in 2012. He’s a much better politician,..which is not the same as the better candidate. Plus, the media won’t let him fail in the first 4 years. The more important question is whether the GOP is willing to cleanse itself during that period and I see no evidence of that. From where I sit, the glass isn’t even half empty, more like 7/8.

a capella on November 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM

There’s a problem with that. Palin is conservative. The current GOP is not. Therefore, it would be an inaccurate face.

However, if it pisses off RINOs and liberals alike, I’m all for it.

MadisonConservative on November 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Romney Petraeus 2012

Slam freakin’ dunk baby. Petraeus would cause the left to soil themselves instantly.

Theworldisnotenough on November 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Why does anyone have to be the face of the party?

It’s a party with great ideas. Ideas that will empower countless people to improve their own lives. Why can’t those great ideas be the face of the party.

Then, it doesn’t matter who we find to run for President. As long as people are sold on the ideas and our candidate is committed to implementing them, winning would be a walk in the park.

We’re losing because we’ve let people get dumbed down to the point where anything bigger than a soundbite is too much information. Let’s face it, liberal ideas are much easier to boil down to a sexy soundbite (“healthcare for all”, “spread the wealth”, etc) than conservative ideas.

JadeNYU on November 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM

OT, but you have to see this. Iowahawk’s take on a prospective Obama appointment:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/

Buford Gooch on November 26, 2008 at 12:57 PM

This thread is gonna be a long one.

CanadianGuy on November 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM

The MSM is out to destroy every conservative, guess that must mean they view them as a threat otherwise why bother giving them all that free publicity? I think Palin “gets it,” just like Ronnie did.

Done That on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I will not click any link that leads to Parker, Noonan, Will, Frum, Brooks or any of the other so-called “experts”…tuck fhem. Traitors who dishonor themselves with their BS.

We did what they wanted and nominated a RHINO to lead our Party and the fool lost against a clown who followed a racist preacher for 20 years, palled around with terrorists, took money from influence peddlers, was raised by communists…hell you couldn’t write a movie this implausible. And that clown McCain lost.

Those “experts” have as much ability to give thoughtful advice as my turds do.

PierreLegrand on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

OT but at PUMA PAC they are scouring BO’s fundraising and quantifying the fraud if anyone is interested…

http://pumapac.org/2008/11/26/message-to-the-base-youve-been-had/#comments

Anyone know what a next step should be with this especially seeing how the FEC is NOT going to audit?

UnderstandingisPower on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I agree all the way around. But what I don’t understand is why there needs to be a ‘face’. She is popular because she represents what a lot of Republicans believe. It isn’t as much about her as what she stands for and how she lives her life. She isn’t perfect, she isn’t a super hero. But what she is (seems to be) is a down to earth MOM with a fantastic family who believes in the freedoms God gives us as recognized by the government.

Alaskans know not to depend on too much chance. They are self reliant. They would be fine without the lower 48 because they are resilient like that. Sarah Palin represents the resilience of the Conservative movement. It’s nice to have someone be a conservative without having to take a position to ‘get more votes’. She seems to have conviction. . . but she isn’t the end all be all of conservatism. She’s popular because there are a lot of people like her and with her views and values.

ThackerAgency on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

This thread is gonna be a long one.

CanadianGuy on November 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Maybe… Happy Thankgiving btw.

upinak on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Why does anyone care what Noonan has to say?

drjohn on November 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Palin ain’t failin’ but Noonan is jejune.

horatio on November 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM

We’re losing because we’ve let people get dumbed down to the point where anything bigger than a soundbite is too much information. Let’s face it, liberal ideas are much easier to boil down to a sexy soundbite (”healthcare for all”, “spread the wealth”, etc) than conservative ideas.

JadeNYU on November 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Well, actually we’re losing because GOP leadership has refused to define a course and then behave like they believe in it. Bush has been a big part of that. I’ll be forever grateful for his leadership on national security, but he’s been willing to take a knee for the whole second half of the game, and let the donks define the national agenda.

a capella on November 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Zzzz.

Good Lt on November 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Wrong. The media wants their caricature of Palin to be the face of the GOP.

jacrews on November 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM

What does Peggy know?

She is an elitist Obama kiss-ass. And I do not believe her when she says she voted for McCain.

Stay with Parker out of the republican party and into the Obama cocktail parties with Brooks. Noonan is one of these cafeteria Catholics that think social issues are not something to regard when voting for a candidate.
Palin is driving Parker and Noonan nuts because she is a woman with a life they wish they could have.

I am a 25 yr. old woman that envies Palin’s blissful family life and her fortuitousness in politics. But it does not derange me into hating the woman or forgetting my conservative principles. On the contrary, hopefully I will be so fortunate in the future. I am proud of Palin. She represents conservative values best and is one of the best people to represent our party.

jencab on November 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Ban the NY media

faraway on November 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM

In that screencap, Noonan looks like a muppet. Too bad that she’s become one in real life.

bilups on November 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Could someone ask Noonan who exactly she sees as the face of the GOP in the future then? I certainly hope that it is neither Mittens or CHuckles due to Mittens’ obscene political pandering and CHuckles’ political vendettas/ whining against persecution. I’d be willing to concede Governor Bobby if he had more than a year of governing experience and actually did something in LA. (Passing ethic laws don’t count… IL has nice ethics laws as well, but this hasn’t deterred the Combine).

Illinidiva on November 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM

However, if it pisses off RINOs and liberals alike…

MadisonConservative on November 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM

I dare say that part of your sentence makes the case for her.

OT, but this is a burning issue for many of us.

The comment period for EPA regulation of CO2 and other greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, which has many implications including fees being placed on livestock, closes FRIDAY.

Comments can be submitted here.

Marine_Bio on November 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM

How is it that all the loony pundits eventually end up on MSNBC? (no answer necessary)

sherry on November 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM

ThackerAgency on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

+1

I love the ‘Cuda, but it’s way to early to put her in as the 2012 candidate anyway. An awful lot can happen before then on all sides. The media’s just bored because there’s not much action right now.

Love the screencap AP. I’m so tired of Peggy Noonan, et al. It must be nice to sit on your ass and solve the world’s problems. At this point I fail to see how what she does is any different from what my dad and his buddies do over coffee and cigarettes at the store every morning.

meltenn on November 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM

OT but at PUMA PAC they are scouring BO’s fundraising and quantifying the fraud if anyone is interested…

http://pumapac.org/2008/11/26/message-to-the-base-youve-been-had/#comments

Anyone know what a next step should be with this especially seeing how the FEC is NOT going to audit?

UnderstandingisPower on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I love the PUMAs. They are so self-righteous and angry in their hatred of Barry.

Illinidiva on November 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM

How many cocktails does it take to get these “journalists” to come out with this stuff?

right2bright on November 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Long story short, the left’s laying a bet that she’ll be easy pickings down the line and the right’s laying a bet that she’s here to save the day.

It’s no secret which side you’re on.

Blake on November 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Long story short, the left’s laying a bet that she’ll be easy pickings down the line and the right’s laying a bet that she’s here to save the day. And the pot just keeps getting bigger and bigger. How lucky do you feel? Click the image to watch.

I like Palin but I think her image damage is too severe for her to be a viable national candidate — at least looking at her today. But fortunately for her, and unfortunately for our “salivating media,” we aren’t selecting our 2012 candidate until… 2012.

I think all Republicans would be wise to look at Palin, Jindal and others with equal interest — and with an equally critical eye — until then. It’s a mistake to fall pray to the media’s “spell” and fixate on Palin to the exclusion of other candidates that may actually be BETTER than Palin. It’s also a mistake to write Palin off, which is what many faux Republicans would have us do.

The question I have for Palin is whether she can use the next few years to rehabilitate her image and earn some bona fides as a public intellectual and a leader. I think she has that capability, but between her own poor interview performances and the media’s outrageous hit job on her, we never got to see her as anything other than a hockey mom with cool glasses who hunts moose. That is, we never saw her in a leadership role.

Outlander on November 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM

I really love the Neville Chamberlain branch of the GOP; George Will, Christopher Buckley, David Gergen, Andrew Sullivan, Colin Powell, Scott McClellan, David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, and David Frum. They babble on about how we need to compromise and soften the message while backing a guy like McCain. When that turns out to have been a disaster of epic proportions they turn around and point the accusing finger at the same people who were screaming that McCain is a RINO and couldn’t win.

These people are the reason the GOP is a failure and will remain a failure as long as their voice is seen as anything to do with conservatism. Half of them voted for Obama rather than be seen in the same company as the “Oogedy-Boogedy” conservatives.

sharrukin on November 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Who do we see about voting peggy off the island?

Thune on November 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Last I checked, Peggy N. was a “has been”…why is she still getting any attention?

jediwebdude on November 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Peggy Noonan,via NewsBusters.

“Look,I think the headline with Mrs.Palin,Let me throw out
this idea:she will never not be with us..”
—————————————————
So,this MSM mischief that Peggy is saying,is very
enlighting,umm,where was Peggy in the last 4-6 months,
or was Peggy covering a different Presidential election
in another country!

Like I’ve said before,any Republican that has a rosy
political future must be destroyed,and it seems to
always be,that the Lefty MSM does the job of the Liberal
Democrat Party!!

canopfor on November 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Noonan lost all credibility with me in the way she trashed Palin during the elections. If she would have been more “fair and balanced” in her criticisms it might hold more weight. She is definitely a Democrat.

DL13 on November 26, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Hey, sounds good to me.

stenwin77 on November 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Well I think it is interesting that MSM is busting Palin, Alaskans, and Alaska in general.

I guess jealousy is a disease of the mind and heart.

upinak on November 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM

The subplot here is that Washington Beltway keep driving the conversation, elevating their importance and influence. And that, in a nutshell, is why the conservatives in the country won’t gain any ground. We’re on the defense right now, responding to their talking points.

We won in 1994 because we went on the offense relentlessly. The Contract with America was the national subject, and Newt did a fantastic job keeping it in focus. Ditto for the recent Drill Here, Drill Now – again driven by Newt.

What offense is Palin driving? Peggy Noonan? Kathleen Parker? John McCain? Huckabee?

Who among the GOP/conservatives currently in the spotlight is pushing a pro-liberty agenda that captures the attention of the media and drives the conversation?

It appears that we’re all sitting around spectating, waiting for some Great One to rise up and lead.

What a great time for any one of us to push the conversation with solid grassroots marketing. Hopefully, that’s afoot somewhere. And if it is, we ought to be focused on that. Because if by January 2009 such an effort isn’t well underway, Obama’s inauguration and subsequent agenda will capture the media and hold their attention for several months, while the economy steers toward Peter Schiff’s predictions and Washington spends itself into oblivion.

Why does it matter at all what Peggy Noonan has to say? Or the rest of the Washington Beltway? They’re a distraction from the real game of figuring out how to save this country…

beatcanvas on November 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Nice to see that Peggy is keeping Gilby’s gin in business. Or has she switched to Beefeater?

Percy_Peabody on November 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM

AP, you and Noonan and the rest of the new left don’t speak for conservatives and we damn sure aren’t going to let you tell us how to “save” it.

SKYFOX on November 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM

I will not click any link that leads to Parker, Noonan, Will, Frum, Brooks or any of the other so-called “experts”…tuck fhem. Traitors who dishonor themselves with their BS.
PierreLegrand on November 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM

+1

pseudonominus on November 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Those who can, write history. Those who can’t, write their speeches.

flyoverland on November 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Palin has lots of time to bone-up on a few weaknesses and get solid on a few things. It’s up to her, but if she gets lazy or complacent, she won’t be of much use.

As far as Huck being chummy with the media, so was McCain. We want the exact opposite. The real face of the GOP will call out and expose the media without seeming whiny, and with no apologies. It will put Chris Matthews, RINOs, faux conservative pundits, etc.. in their place, in their arena and outside of their arena. Palin has shown hints of being willing and able to do this.

If Palin is determined to continue doing the hostile interviews and not fight and expose the bias, and simply accept ridiculous pop quizzes (that aren’t given to the other side), then she better become a freakin’ political genius in the next few years. If not, she will be considered a joke by both sides.

The real face of the GOP will be able to educate and sell the masses on conservative principles, while quoting the greats and being well-educated/solid on history and pollitical philosophy. There are many that can do this, but they just won’t step up, or they have the wrong personality. Palin is not the one for this job.
“Drill baby drill” was the closest thing I’ve seen to anyone taking a stand in years. But as expected, it fizzled out and they really didn’t believe in it. They should be hitting this issue every day, but as usual it proved to be politically motivated without any real passion. That’s what we don’t need.

nottakingsides on November 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM

What are you trying to do to us the day before Thanksgiving Noonan on MSNBC!!

KBird on November 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM

How is this any different from after the 1976 election, when the media and Democrats wanted to make Ronald Reagan the face of the Republican Party, because they believed they could trash him as both a lightweight and a fanatic in the Barry Goldwater vein ready to blow up the world if elected president (in Palin’s case, substitute “Pat Robertson” or “James Dobson” for Goldwater, and “convert the U.S. into a fundamentalist Christian nation” for blow up the world). I’m surprised ex-Reagan speechwriter Noonan can’t see the similarities, but then there are several others who were close to Reagan in the late 70s and early 80s, like George Will, who also seem to want to maintain there’s nothing similar between a governor of California being trashed by the media and a governor of Alaska suffering the same fate.

It was up to Reagan between 1976 and 1980 to convince both Republican voters and the voting public in general not to believe the media stereotypes, and he showed his seriousness in the (failed) effort to block the Panama Canal treaty. Palin can’t just sit back over the next four years and expect the stereotype to go away — like Reagan, if she wants to run in 2012, she’s going to have to go out and show here seriousness in at least a couple of categories (energy policy being the most obvious one).

jon1979 on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

AP, you and Noonan and the rest of the new left don’t speak for conservatives and we damn sure aren’t going to let you tell us how to “save” it.

Sweet.

Allahpundit on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

KBird on November 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM

I guess ALLAHPUNDIT just wanted us to see an example of a TURKEY before we cooked one.

The Republican Party has got to move away from the Beltway Elite.

kingsjester on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Sweet.

Allahpundit on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

SNORTS!

upinak on November 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM

I’m sorry, but that “Thank you, Sarah Palin” parody with the crass joke about abortion at the end is just sickening. Culture of death indeed.

ramrocks on November 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM

America Wants to Know!
Obama REFUSES to show his ORIGINAL birth certificate. Why?

http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx

SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRESENT HIS QUALIFICATIONS.

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

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AdrianS on November 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Does this hack disappear along with Boosh on Jan 20?

Wade on November 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Me thinks,that before the GOP straightens out
the RINO’s and pretenders,

the so-called Washington Republican pundits either
speak positively about the party,or be replaced with
somebody else that has the best interest of the Party,

because during this last election,they certainly weren’t
to helpful!!

canopfor on November 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM

AdrianS on November 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM

For a second I thought you missed a topic…but I was wrong.
Could you please find it in your heart to save some electrons and just stop?

kanda on November 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM

“Wrong. The media wants their caricature of Palin to be the face of the GOP.”

Spot on.

latinchic on November 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM

The Republican Party has got to move away from the Beltway Elite.

kingsjester on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Move away?

How about throwing them off the fricken cliff and turning away without watching to see where they land?

Seven Percent Solution on November 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I still do not understand why people like Noonan and Allah don’t understand Palin. Are they really that out of touch. do they really not understand that Palin is the first politician that has walked the walk when it comes to smaller gov, fiscal responsibility, understanding it is the people’s governmnet not the government of the eiltes. I mean this isn’t rocket science. throw in her social conservatism and the only thing missing is national ssecurity which she has 4 years 2 years to learn.

unseen on November 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I’m with Peggy on this one

Baphomet on November 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM

My take, for what it’s worth (see above) is that Palin is solidly defined on both the hard left and the hard right, and these perceptions will be almost impossible to change. It’s how she gets defined the middle (I have no idea) that will be a true assessment of her viability. So from an electability standpoint it really doesn’t matter what we think – the choir’s sold; what about everyone else?

ErikTheRed on November 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM

I believe that the left can use the same strategy that have used to make Bush unpopular to make Palin unpopular. I don’t think it’s outlandish to ask the Republican Party to pick someone who seems intelligent to run for President. For instance, Giuliani and Romney are intelligent and both would have been viable candidates, if one had been nominated.

thuja on November 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM

AdrianS on November 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM

………… you know, as a joke, I was going to ask where you were with your petition.

But you beat me to it!

Serves me right……………

Seven Percent Solution on November 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM

I will not click any link that leads to Parker, Noonan, Will, Frum, Brooks or any of the other so-called “experts”…tuck fhem. Traitors who dishonor themselves with their BS.

Sure won’t. This is so lame. Can’t they find another topic to whine about? Obama won the election. FU-CK of Media…

Heh

Dritanian on November 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Oh Boy,I hope your not based in Washington,AllahPundit!
A hem!:)

canopfor on November 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Seven Percent Solution on November 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM

That would work, too. Actually, I’d like to buy them for what they’re worth and sell them for what they think they’re worth.

Wait a sec…Is Capitalism still allowed under Dear Leader?
After all, he is already President, isn’t he?

kingsjester on November 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM

3 Rules To Live By For Conservatives:

1) Be against ANYTHING Ted Kennedy is for

2) NEVER join or support anything that starts with “GANG OF ___”
3) Be FOR anyone who Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Mort Kondrake or any number of “I do not really understand Conservatives but will act like I do know nothings” say you should be against

ReaganConservative3 on November 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM

After all, he is already President, isn’t he?

kingsjester on November 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Mr. Obama, President Elect, the Office of………….

Seven Percent Solution on November 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM

And what a HOT face she has!

CynicalOptimist on November 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM

I see the same meme is being repeated over and over again. Listen, guys. If you really think the GOP lost this election because McCain was a so-called “RINO” or because the message wasn’t conservative enough, you are certifiably 100% insane. Take it from there and you will understand.

It’s not that some people, be it Peggy Noonan or Allahpundit, don’t “get” Palin. You sound like lefties when you talk like that. It’s just that they are entitled to an opinion, a judgment on politics as they see it, and they express it. OK? It’s not treason, it doesn’t make them leftists or Democrats or anything like that. Stop the crap, because otherwise we’re heading for a really craterous dive in 2012.

Baphomet on November 26, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Noonan= Beeyotch.

Wait a sec…Is Capitalism still allowed under Dear Leader?
After all, he is already President, isn’t he?

kingsjester on November 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Or King Obama?

Badger40 on November 26, 2008 at 1:47 PM

I LOVE Sarah Palin!

Gotcha on November 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Perhaps more important than who will be the face of the party in 2012 is what we are doing about 2010.

By my count, there are 36 states that will be having elections for Governor in 2010. Of those, 20 are Dems (and of those 20, 10 are retiring/term limited so it will be an open race). There are also 8 Rep Governors that are retiring/term limited, so we’ll have an open race there as well.

There are 15 Democrat Senators and 21 Republican Senators that will be up for reelection as well.

What is being done to recruit good Republicans for these races? What is being done to support good Republicans that are running for re-election? Are people working to expose the bad politicians so they won’t get re-elected ‘just because’?

I think the grass roots are good at organizing when they get fired up about something, but not so good about exposing bad politicians and getting good ones elected. That needs to change.

JadeNYU on November 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM

You don’t think Noonan’s jealous do you?

Did I mention Palin’s HOT? Noonan’s NOT.

CynicalOptimist on November 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Can someone tell Noonan she isn’t neither the face nor the voice of the conservatives or GOP.

aigle on November 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Peggy Sue Got Married.
Peggy Noonan Got Obama’d.

portlandon on November 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Can someone tell Noonan she isn’t either the face nor the voice of the conservatives or GOP.

aigle on November 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

I believe that the left can use the same strategy that have used to make Bush unpopular to make Palin unpopular. I don’t think it’s outlandish to ask the Republican Party to pick someone who seems intelligent to run for President. For instance, Giuliani and Romney are intelligent and both would have been viable candidates, if one had been nominated.

thuja on November 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM

So we let the press determine who the Republican candidate is? Ummm… didn’t they choose John McCain who was the media darling until it came time for them to anoint Obama?

Giuliani and Romney seemed intelligent because the press hadn’t gone into full attack mode on them yet. If they had made it as the GOP candidate, they too would have been painted with the same brush every Republican gets painted with. Then all the sensitive conservatives would run screaming from how stupid Giuliani was, or how out of touch Romney was.

Recipe for failure every time.

sharrukin on November 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Romney Petraeus 2012

Slam freakin’ dunk baby. Petraeus would cause the left to soil themselves instantly.

Theworldisnotenough on November 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Spot on! And if Obama’s got the economy still in a mess, Romney will have the smarts to fix it!

Romney / Petraeus 2012 !!!

Shelby on November 26, 2008 at 1:50 PM

It would be difficult for the media to not focus on her given the her incredible rise in politics over the past few months.

Thomas Sowell talks about what Democrats thought about Reagan back in the day by citing Meg Greenfield in the Washington post:

It was the wisdom of the other contenders and of most Republican Party leaders, too, not to mention of practically everyone in Democratic politics, that Reagan was: too old, too extreme, too marginal and not nearly smart enough to win the nomination. The Democrats , in fact, when they weren’t chrotling about him, were fervently hoping he would be the nominee. When he carried the convention in Detroit, people I knew in the Carter White House were ecstatic.</blockquote>

Boom Headshot.

No one is Reagan, but I’m just saying.

V15J on November 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

insofar as the base is convinced she’s the savior of conservatism while the left’s convinced she’s the ruin of it

If that is the case they would be having glowing stories about her just to promote her and let herself be her undoing in the primaries, just like they did to Mav.

They fear Gov. Palin. They dont want her anywhere near national office, look at MSNBC’s treatment of Turkeygate. They want to ruin her for the next 2 years so that even the GOP will be embarrased.

broker1 on November 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

I think Peggy is right correct.

Dash on November 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM

AP, you and Noonan and the rest of the new left don’t speak for conservatives and we damn sure aren’t going to let you tell us how to “save” it.

Sweet.

Allahpundit on November 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Request: a passed IQ test to go with the next new registrants.

baldilocks on November 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM

AdrianS on November 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Please go away crazy person… Stop ridiculous OT spamming on threads.

Illinidiva on November 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM

The media this and the media that and so forth and so on. Who died and made the media Gods? A pox on them all!

jeanie on November 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM

They’ll have to pry my Palin vote out of my cold, dead hands.

Godzilla on November 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM

I see dead people…

ronsfi on November 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM

sharrukin on November 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

That’s why it’s important for Republicans to have an effective means of disseminating information without using the MSM. We have the foundation for it with the WSJ, Fox News, and talk radio. Blogs would be an excellent addition.

That said, I think Palin was partially the architect of her own undoing. She had poor interview performances with both Gibson and ESPECIALLY with Couric. She claimed her poor performances were caused by her being “flippant” with the interviewer after feeling insulted. But grace under fire is part of the job. If Couric asks her what newspapers she reads, how hard is it to say that she reads the Alaska newspaper and the Wall Street Journal online? Articulateness (i.e., the ability to effectively communicate ideas) is an important quality in a leader and communicator. She did not do a good job of demonstrating articulateness in this campaign.

For what it’s worth, Rudy Giuliani is a bright guy, and he would never have made the same faux pas Palin did during her interviews. Giuliani’s problem, in my view, is that he had too many personal demons in order to be a viable candidate against anyone other than Hillary.

As for Romney, the guy is a giant phony. Sorry.

Outlander on November 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM

V15J on November 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Awesome post quoting Sowell on the old view of Reagan. Gee, sounds familiar doesn’t it. The best summary of the left’s reaction to the Palin nomination was that the stupid leftists were jubilant because they think she’s dumb, the smart liberals were worried because they knew that she’s not dumb. I think that assessment is still true. Most of the left is not at all worried about Palin because they genuinely think she’s an idiot. It’s the smart liberals — the ones who have actually had to run campaigns — who realize what a threat Palin is.

People have forgotten that the conservative wing of the GOP nearly split with the party at the ’76 Convention when Reagan lost to Ford. The party was torn down the middle, and everyone thought the Reagan people were nuts. In fact, I believe Noonan herself was not among the “Reagan wing” back in ’76. She was somewhat contemptuous of the “Viva Reagan” crowd.

ramrocks on November 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM

re: JadeNYU: Perhaps more important than who will be the face of the party in 2012 is what we are doing about 2010.

Hear! Hear! Obsessing about 2012 is like a football team dreaming of the Superbowl before they’ve finished the season.

adagioforstrings on November 26, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Romney Petraeus 2012

Slam freakin’ dunk baby. Petraeus would cause the left to soil themselves instantly.

Theworldisnotenough on November 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Spot on! And if Obama’s got the economy still in a mess, Romney will have the smarts to fix it!

Romney / Petraeus 2012 !!!

I third the motion! ROMNEY/PETRAEUS 2012!

I have to agree with Peggy Noonan here, who has been a consistent voice for conservatism since the Reagan administration. While I like Palin, and felt she would have been a much better President than John McCain, I couldn’t vote for her over Romney/Giuliani/Jindal/Sanford. Namely because I know too many people who voted for Obama because she was on McCain’s ticket.

I’m not saying these people are informed, but keep in mind that a recent poll done after the election showed that 73% of voters thought that it was actually Sarah Palin who cited, “I can see Russia from my house” as a foreign policy credential and not her counter part Tina Fey.

That’s a scary hurdle to overcome.

As for me, Palin lost me when she couldn’t name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with.

joncoltonis on November 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

I don’t think it’s outlandish to ask the Republican Party to pick someone who seems intelligent to run for President. For instance, Giuliani and Romney are intelligent and both would have been viable candidates, if one had been nominated.

thuja on November 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Rudy has too much baggage/too many scandals. A lot of them are manufactured by his enemies, but the press would play them around the clock.

Don’t get me started on Romney’s flip-flopping ass. His political positions flop around like a trout thrown up onto a riverbank. Look at the auto bailout flip-flops recently.

I don’t see why Noonan has any credibility on Palin after the open-mike “This is bullshit” comments when the Cuda was selected. Anyway, Sarah’s intelligence seems just fine to me, but I have taken the time to look at her writings and interviews.

Jim62sch on November 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Peggy Noonan: The media wants to make Palin the face of the GOP

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy get a grip, or a new something, somewhere. You’ve lost all sense of direction and purpose.

What’s wrong with Sarah Palin being the face of the Republican party? If it wasn’t for her, McCain’s campaign would have been an even bigger bust. Sarah Palin campaigned for just nine weeks, compared to the Messiah’s twenty one months and look what she accomplished! She gave CPR and brought back to life a battered and bruised GOP.

Peggy, besides whining, and getting your panties twisted from behind your computer, what have you done for the GOP lately?

byteshredder on November 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

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