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		<title>By: Consensus dissipating on global warming? &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</title>
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		<title>By: PFB Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Little Evidence, Please</title>
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		<title>By: Fool me once &#8230; &#124; Biofuels Brazil</title>
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		<title>By: EckerNet.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Deep Thoughts With Kevin</title>
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		<description>[...] to their crackpot global warming theories&#8230;.unproven theories that are rapidly losing both scientific and public [...]</description>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1679205</link>
		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in “Man-Made” Global Warming
Poptech on November 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Garbage In, Garbage Out&quot; doesn&#039;t even BEGIN to describe the cluster-f*ck of an excuse for scientific theory that Global Warming has become.

I once cornered a Global Warming &quot;researcher&quot; back in college - asking him how in the heck he could possibly know how much C02 the biosphere was capable of absorbing.  And he jabbered something about how there wasn&#039;t enough selenium in the ocean to support the kinds of organisms that absorb CO2.

Selenium?  So this (take my word for it) scatter-brained feeb had input THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH into his computer model, and it spit out this result:  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Not enough selinium in oceans; ergo, world will end in 20-200 years.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I didn&#039;t bother following that up any further, because I knew that within a month the model will be scrapped again and replaced by another -- no doubt tweaked until it shows that that some other obscure elemental shortage is going to doom us all.

And, somehow, they all have the exact same &quot;20-200 year&quot; time range that every doomsayer worth his salt has always used to cover his tracks:  a minimum long enough so that no one will ever remember what I said, let alone be able to prove me wrong; and a maximum short enough that you can still kind of picture the ancestors you&#039;ll be murdering if you don&#039;t pay me money RIGHT NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in “Man-Made” Global Warming<br />
Poptech on November 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Garbage In, Garbage Out&#8221; doesn&#8217;t even BEGIN to describe the cluster-f*ck of an excuse for scientific theory that Global Warming has become.</p>
<p>I once cornered a Global Warming &#8220;researcher&#8221; back in college &#8211; asking him how in the heck he could possibly know how much C02 the biosphere was capable of absorbing.  And he jabbered something about how there wasn&#8217;t enough selenium in the ocean to support the kinds of organisms that absorb CO2.</p>
<p>Selenium?  So this (take my word for it) scatter-brained feeb had input THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH into his computer model, and it spit out this result:  <em>&#8220;Not enough selinium in oceans; ergo, world will end in 20-200 years.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t bother following that up any further, because I knew that within a month the model will be scrapped again and replaced by another &#8212; no doubt tweaked until it shows that that some other obscure elemental shortage is going to doom us all.</p>
<p>And, somehow, they all have the exact same &#8220;20-200 year&#8221; time range that every doomsayer worth his salt has always used to cover his tracks:  a minimum long enough so that no one will ever remember what I said, let alone be able to prove me wrong; and a maximum short enough that you can still kind of picture the ancestors you&#8217;ll be murdering if you don&#8217;t pay me money RIGHT NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Poptech</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1678817</link>
		<dc:creator>Poptech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I keep wondering, why are the computer models for the Earth’s climate, decades into the future, taken seriously by anyone when I don’t think any of the major econometric models predicted anything close to the current financial crisis?

It is all a big joke.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/11/fact-only-computer-illiterates-believe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in &quot;Man-Made&quot; Global Warming&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I keep wondering, why are the computer models for the Earth’s climate, decades into the future, taken seriously by anyone when I don’t think any of the major econometric models predicted anything close to the current financial crisis?</p>
<p>It is all a big joke.</p>
<p>progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/11/fact-only-computer-illiterates-believe.html" rel="nofollow">FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in &#8220;Man-Made&#8221; Global Warming</a></p>
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		<title>By: Poptech</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1678805</link>
		<dc:creator>Poptech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.populartechnology.net/2007/10/no-consensus-on-global-warming.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NO &#039;Consensus&#039; on &quot;Man-Made&quot; Global Warming&lt;/a&gt;

Get your kids to watch these movies instead of Gore&#039;s propaganda:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/01/censored-global-warming-videos.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Censored Global Warming Videos&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.populartechnology.net/2007/10/no-consensus-on-global-warming.html" rel="nofollow">NO &#8216;Consensus&#8217; on &#8220;Man-Made&#8221; Global Warming</a></p>
<p>Get your kids to watch these movies instead of Gore&#8217;s propaganda:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/01/censored-global-warming-videos.html" rel="nofollow">Censored Global Warming Videos</a></p>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1678565</link>
		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing. 
Noocyte on November 26, 2008 at 2:32 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the way junk science works:  they can&#039;t PROVE their theory prospectively, they can only RATIONALIZE it after the fact.

You give me a big pile of data (and a bigger pile of money) and I&#039;ll show you a vaguely chicken-shaped hole in the Ozone Layer above Toledo, Ohio.  And what&#039;s more, I&#039;ll show you how it&#039;s insidiously becoming ever more chicken-shaped over time. 

What I can&#039;t do is make a PREDICTION about the future, or specify a testable hypothesis that someone else can use to prove OR DISPROVE my theory using a different data set, or even just a different set of interval cut-off points.  &#039;Cause if I tried that, my little “Global Chickening Theory” would fall apart faster than a Teflon-coated house of cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing.<br />
Noocyte on November 26, 2008 at 2:32 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the way junk science works:  they can&#8217;t PROVE their theory prospectively, they can only RATIONALIZE it after the fact.</p>
<p>You give me a big pile of data (and a bigger pile of money) and I&#8217;ll show you a vaguely chicken-shaped hole in the Ozone Layer above Toledo, Ohio.  And what&#8217;s more, I&#8217;ll show you how it&#8217;s insidiously becoming ever more chicken-shaped over time. </p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t do is make a PREDICTION about the future, or specify a testable hypothesis that someone else can use to prove OR DISPROVE my theory using a different data set, or even just a different set of interval cut-off points.  &#8216;Cause if I tried that, my little “Global Chickening Theory” would fall apart faster than a Teflon-coated house of cards.</p>
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		<title>By: KillerKane</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillerKane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noocyte: no, it&#039;s back that way since the Sun (Obama) has come to power.  Now he will revolve around the earth bringing light, peace and justice to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noocyte: no, it&#8217;s back that way since the Sun (Obama) has come to power.  Now he will revolve around the earth bringing light, peace and justice to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Noocyte</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1677687</link>
		<dc:creator>Noocyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The theologically derived consensus that the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Earth &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;revolved around the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sun&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Noocyte on November 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gah!

Strike that. Reverse it.

Teach me to comment in the wee hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The theologically derived consensus that the <em><strong>Earth </strong></em>revolved around the <em><strong>Sun</strong></em></p>
<p>Noocyte on November 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Gah!</p>
<p>Strike that. Reverse it.</p>
<p>Teach me to comment in the wee hours.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkCurrent</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1677535</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkCurrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Red State State of Mind on November 25, 2008 at 8:41 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean the Catoctin &lt;em&gt;Islands&lt;/em&gt; don&#039;t you Red?

I hope that mountain property isn&#039;t more than about 20 feet above current sea level, since that&#039;s about the maximum worst-case prediction over the next hundred years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Red State State of Mind on November 25, 2008 at 8:41 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the Catoctin <em>Islands</em> don&#8217;t you Red?</p>
<p>I hope that mountain property isn&#8217;t more than about 20 feet above current sea level, since that&#8217;s about the maximum worst-case prediction over the next hundred years.</p>
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		<title>By: brobin</title>
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		<dc:creator>brobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use kidtv as a yardstick to measure this, and the consensus has definitely collapsed.  Disney and Nickelodean(sp?) have been preaching &quot;greenness&quot; at my 14 year old daughter since she was a tot.  Sometime in the last year or so, though, the greenery has become a regular target for mocking jokes along these lines:

&quot;Who cares? It&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;polar bear&lt;/em&gt;!  I&#039;ve survived this long without seeing one.  That&#039;s what cameras are for.  Just don&#039;t make me drive that electric car.&quot;

Lame, but not as lame as the preaching!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use kidtv as a yardstick to measure this, and the consensus has definitely collapsed.  Disney and Nickelodean(sp?) have been preaching &#8220;greenness&#8221; at my 14 year old daughter since she was a tot.  Sometime in the last year or so, though, the greenery has become a regular target for mocking jokes along these lines:</p>
<p>&#8220;Who cares? It&#8217;s a <em>polar bear</em>!  I&#8217;ve survived this long without seeing one.  That&#8217;s what cameras are for.  Just don&#8217;t make me drive that electric car.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lame, but not as lame as the preaching!</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ice Age is coming! I think global warming has also been used by anti globalists who are looking for a way to promote pristine poverty for the third world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ice Age is coming! I think global warming has also been used by anti globalists who are looking for a way to promote pristine poverty for the third world.</p>
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		<title>By: Feedie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1677273</link>
		<dc:creator>Feedie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GE/NBC&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/21/weather-channel-nixes-forecast-earth-possibly-cullen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;firing&lt;/a&gt; of The Weather Channel Environ-mental Unit is good news for honest science and the blood pressure of the remaining sane.  Politicizing The Weather Channel was a new low in the annals of skankdom.

Besides occurring during NBC&#039;s Green Week, ICECAP &lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/op_ed_comentary_from_a_television_meteorologist_with_a_broadcast_seal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;notices&lt;/a&gt; some interesting speculation into why:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The dismantling of The Weather Channel Environmental team is as much a public relations statement as it is a material policy shift exacted by General Electric...
By the public execution of the environmental unit GE was tacitly communicating to worldwide investors that they “Get It”. It is also notable that &lt;strong&gt;during the same week that this action occurred, The French Company responsible for constructing GE wind turbines, business model failed and to the degree that GE was enmeshed in financing the operation, they failed as well&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

More on NBC&#039;s plight and &lt;a href=&quot;http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/11/weather-channel-forecast-earth-nuked.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bonus&lt;/a&gt;:  Mann&#039;s Hockey Stick Zombie, revivified for 2008, had its mouth filled with salt and lips sewed shut again.

The sunspot cycle is two years later than predicted and hasn&#039;t ramped up yet.  The Sun&#039;s magnetic field is reduced.  Sol sends Al Gore a chill pill.

Any warming by CO2 is limited and &lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSENMARSCHALLENGE.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;past the point&lt;/a&gt; where any further increase will make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GE/NBC&#8217;s <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/21/weather-channel-nixes-forecast-earth-possibly-cullen/" rel="nofollow">firing</a> of The Weather Channel Environ-mental Unit is good news for honest science and the blood pressure of the remaining sane.  Politicizing The Weather Channel was a new low in the annals of skankdom.</p>
<p>Besides occurring during NBC&#8217;s Green Week, ICECAP <a href="http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/op_ed_comentary_from_a_television_meteorologist_with_a_broadcast_seal/" rel="nofollow">notices</a> some interesting speculation into why:</p>
<blockquote><p>The dismantling of The Weather Channel Environmental team is as much a public relations statement as it is a material policy shift exacted by General Electric&#8230;<br />
By the public execution of the environmental unit GE was tacitly communicating to worldwide investors that they “Get It”. It is also notable that <strong>during the same week that this action occurred, The French Company responsible for constructing GE wind turbines, business model failed and to the degree that GE was enmeshed in financing the operation, they failed as well</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>More on NBC&#8217;s plight and <a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/11/weather-channel-forecast-earth-nuked.html" rel="nofollow">bonus</a>:  Mann&#8217;s Hockey Stick Zombie, revivified for 2008, had its mouth filled with salt and lips sewed shut again.</p>
<p>The sunspot cycle is two years later than predicted and hasn&#8217;t ramped up yet.  The Sun&#8217;s magnetic field is reduced.  Sol sends Al Gore a chill pill.</p>
<p>Any warming by CO2 is limited and <a href="http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSENMARSCHALLENGE.pdf" rel="nofollow">past the point</a> where any further increase will make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Noocyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noocyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing. So, we should not be lulled into a false sense of security if the entire climate didn&#039;t proceed most ricky-tick into the crapper, for crapperward it would surely resume in due course.

Before the aforementioned heliocentric view of the &#039;verse (embarrassingly belatedly) took hold, a &#039;theory&#039; emerged to explain the apparent retrograde movement of heavenly bodies (i.e., planets) by making reference to &quot;epicycles.&quot; These were posited as circular loops which these bodies executed in their circular journey around the earth (it was important that they be perfect circles, as they were expressions of the perfect Divine creation).

We must be very careful that reason not be similarly co-opted in the service of dogma with regard to Mother Earth&#039;s intemperate cycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing. So, we should not be lulled into a false sense of security if the entire climate didn&#8217;t proceed most ricky-tick into the crapper, for crapperward it would surely resume in due course.</p>
<p>Before the aforementioned heliocentric view of the &#8216;verse (embarrassingly belatedly) took hold, a &#8216;theory&#8217; emerged to explain the apparent retrograde movement of heavenly bodies (i.e., planets) by making reference to &#8220;epicycles.&#8221; These were posited as circular loops which these bodies executed in their circular journey around the earth (it was important that they be perfect circles, as they were expressions of the perfect Divine creation).</p>
<p>We must be very careful that reason not be similarly co-opted in the service of dogma with regard to Mother Earth&#8217;s intemperate cycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Achilles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achilles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  And, to think, I actually started buying into that theory.  I should have known something was screwy when I read that article saying everywhere else in the world is warming EXCEPT in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  And, to think, I actually started buying into that theory.  I should have known something was screwy when I read that article saying everywhere else in the world is warming EXCEPT in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: smellthecoffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>smellthecoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The only problem is that the next generation is still watching Al Gore’s movie in the classroom.

That translates to million of Enviromarxists 10 years from now.

Sorry to be Debbie the Downer.

Dadvocate on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In ten years the &quot;Inconvenient Truth&quot; movie will be the Reefer Madness of its time.  

Now is the time to get some redistribution of wealth going.  Bet a liberal $10k that it will be cooler in five years than it is today.  How can they say no?  If enough people do it. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The only problem is that the next generation is still watching Al Gore’s movie in the classroom.</p>
<p>That translates to million of Enviromarxists 10 years from now.</p>
<p>Sorry to be Debbie the Downer.</p>
<p>Dadvocate on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>In ten years the &#8220;Inconvenient Truth&#8221; movie will be the Reefer Madness of its time.  </p>
<p>Now is the time to get some redistribution of wealth going.  Bet a liberal $10k that it will be cooler in five years than it is today.  How can they say no?  If enough people do it. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Nozzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nozzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The earth&#039;s surface is covered by two-thirds water called the oceans.  The heat content of water is orders of magnitude greater than air.  Meaning that is takes many times the energy to change the temperature of a water sample as compared to the same size air sample  CO2 makes up around three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere.  Only a fool would believe that a gas making up three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere could counter-act the amazing stabilization effects of the oceans on global temperatures.  Junk science at its worst...Thank GW for keeping us out of Kyoto and just maybe holding the line against the lunatic fringe long enough for the world to discover that Al Gore is a fraud...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The earth&#8217;s surface is covered by two-thirds water called the oceans.  The heat content of water is orders of magnitude greater than air.  Meaning that is takes many times the energy to change the temperature of a water sample as compared to the same size air sample  CO2 makes up around three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere.  Only a fool would believe that a gas making up three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere could counter-act the amazing stabilization effects of the oceans on global temperatures.  Junk science at its worst&#8230;Thank GW for keeping us out of Kyoto and just maybe holding the line against the lunatic fringe long enough for the world to discover that Al Gore is a fraud&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: r keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>r keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope that the optimists are right and that science will overwhelm politics....but I&#039;m not so sure.  

There&#039;s a whole lot of people, industries, institutions, pols etc. that have bet their careers on this.

And they see their time has come.  Time for the green revolution.

The damage enviros have done is already huge.  Where would this country be if we have more oil, more nuke?  

You can&#039;t reason someone out of an opinion that they didn&#039;t reason themselves into.  They will fight tooth and nail against reason, using smears, name-calling, lies and anything else that will get them their goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope that the optimists are right and that science will overwhelm politics&#8230;.but I&#8217;m not so sure.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a whole lot of people, industries, institutions, pols etc. that have bet their careers on this.</p>
<p>And they see their time has come.  Time for the green revolution.</p>
<p>The damage enviros have done is already huge.  Where would this country be if we have more oil, more nuke?  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t reason someone out of an opinion that they didn&#8217;t reason themselves into.  They will fight tooth and nail against reason, using smears, name-calling, lies and anything else that will get them their goal.</p>
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		<title>By: There's My Two Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>There's My Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More Than The Temperature Is Falling...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s a new story about the rapidly bursting bubble that is the man-made global warming schtick....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More Than The Temperature Is Falling&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a new story about the rapidly bursting bubble that is the man-made global warming schtick&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Noocyte</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/25/consensus-dissipating-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-1676882</link>
		<dc:creator>Noocyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

“Consensus” is not how science works.

One correct scientist represents a consensus!

rock the casbah on November 25, 2008 at 8:58 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

+1!

The late, deeply lamented Michael Crichton wrote most eloquently on this matter (cf &lt;a href=&quot;http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Crichton2003.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;[.pdf]).

Appeals to consensus are rhetorical/political phenomena, and as such have NO PLACE in any inquiry that purports to  be scientific in nature. 

The theologically derived consensus that the Earth revolved around the Sun constituted no more accurate an answer to the questions which observers put to the universe than does the economic determinism which undergirds the &quot;science&quot; on the matter of global warming. 

For those who don&#039;t toss this down the same memory hole as Global Cooling, this will be remembered as a pathetically silly moment in the history of human scientific thought.</description>
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<p>“Consensus” is not how science works.</p>
<p>One correct scientist represents a consensus!</p>
<p>rock the casbah on November 25, 2008 at 8:58 PM
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<p>+1!</p>
<p>The late, deeply lamented Michael Crichton wrote most eloquently on this matter (cf <a href="http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Crichton2003.pdf" rel="nofollow">here </a>[.pdf]).</p>
<p>Appeals to consensus are rhetorical/political phenomena, and as such have NO PLACE in any inquiry that purports to  be scientific in nature. </p>
<p>The theologically derived consensus that the Earth revolved around the Sun constituted no more accurate an answer to the questions which observers put to the universe than does the economic determinism which undergirds the &#8220;science&#8221; on the matter of global warming. </p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t toss this down the same memory hole as Global Cooling, this will be remembered as a pathetically silly moment in the history of human scientific thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Global-Warming Skeptics: Heads Finally Off the Chopping Block? &#171; Jane Q. Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global-Warming Skeptics: Heads Finally Off the Chopping Block? &#171; Jane Q. Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global-Warming Skeptics: Heads Finally Off the Chopping&#160;Block?  Jump to Comments From Ed Morrissey at HotAir: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jgapinoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgapinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon, Joetox Biden&#039;s insistence during the debate that global warming is REAL &amp; it&#039;s TOTALLY man-made will be added to the list of his &lt;a href=&quot;http://jgapinoy.blogspot.com/2008/10/were-just-biden-our-time-until-next.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gaffes&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon, Joetox Biden&#8217;s insistence during the debate that global warming is REAL &amp; it&#8217;s TOTALLY man-made will be added to the list of his <a href="http://jgapinoy.blogspot.com/2008/10/were-just-biden-our-time-until-next.html" rel="nofollow">gaffes</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazingly, it took a bit over a decade for so many scientists to realize what I knew right away.  Makes me feel pretty superior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazingly, it took a bit over a decade for so many scientists to realize what I knew right away.  Makes me feel pretty superior.</p>
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		<title>By: right4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>right4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of what passes for &#039;science&#039; these days is nothing more than a secular religion.  the cult of global warming...and the cult of evolution are two prominent examples where facts don&#039;t matter.

and any deviation from the &#039;consensus&#039; is heresy, and the heretics must be purged and silenced from &#039;science&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of what passes for &#8216;science&#8217; these days is nothing more than a secular religion.  the cult of global warming&#8230;and the cult of evolution are two prominent examples where facts don&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>and any deviation from the &#8216;consensus&#8217; is heresy, and the heretics must be purged and silenced from &#8216;science&#8217;</p>
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