Consensus dissipating on global warming?

posted at 5:10 pm on November 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Global-warming skepticism has apparently gone mainstream enough to get the attention of Politico.  On the cusp of getting the most progressive Congressional leadership in history, the science used to argue for central control of energy production may disappear along with the warming that by all accounts stopped ten years ago:

Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation.

While the new Obama administration promises aggressive, forward-thinking environmental policies, Weather Channel co-founder Joseph D’Aleo and other scientists are organizing lobbying efforts to take aim at the cap-and-trade bill that Democrats plan to unveil in January. ….

The National Academy of Sciences and most major scientific bodies agree that global warming is caused by man-made carbon emissions. But a small, growing number of scientists, including D’Aleo, are questioning how quickly the warming is happening and whether humans are actually the leading cause.

Armed with statistics from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climate Data Center, D’Aleo reported in the 2009 Old Farmer’s Almanac that the U.S. annual mean temperature has fluctuated for decades and has only risen 0.21 degrees since 1930 — which he says is caused by fluctuating solar activity levels and ocean temperatures, not carbon emissions.

Data from the same source shows that during five of the past seven decades, including this one, average U.S. temperatures have gone down. And the almanac predicted that the next year will see a period of cooling.

The global-warming movement exists to provide cover for statists who demand central control over energy production.  That’s an inconvenient truth that has begun to emerge as global temperatures fail to meet expectations of increase.  Rather than admit that more research is needed, global-warming activists have increased the hysterical tone of their efforts, demanding immediate action and giving dire predictions of catastrophe without it.

Their cause did not get helped by the Goddard Institute’s mishandling of data.  Not only did they mistakenly use the wrong month’s data, they failed to catch the error before publication.  In the controversy that erupted, Goddard — the primary source for the most hysterical global-warming advocates — admitted that they don’t do any independent verification of the data they receive, making their conclusions all but worthless.

Over 31,000 scientists have now signed onto the Global Warming Petition Project, demanding more skepticism and a return to scientific inquiry into climate change rather than political propaganda.  They face an uphill battle in convincing the beneficiaries of research dollars from Washington to risk their funding by acting like scientists.


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The only problem is that the next generation is still watching Al Gore’s movie in the classroom.

That translates to million of Enviromarxists 10 years from now.

Sorry to be Debbie the Downer.

Dadvocate on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM

well well well. common sense may prevail this one time.

stunning.

lorien1973 on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Yes!

DL13 on November 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM

They already have this covered.

It’s CLIMATE CHANGE, not global warming. And it’s all our fault too (mostly Amerikans).

Riposte on November 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM

FOLLOW THE MONEY FOR THIS GLOBAL HOAX. Gore is a crook and a criminal.

marklmail on November 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM

But… but… Leonardo is just so positive about this one!

(No, not that Leonardo.)

Tzetzes on November 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Good. Does that mean Waxman goes away?

JoeAvg on November 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM

There will still be a big, final push by the enviro-whackjobs. After all, we elected a new President who said that he would bankrupt the coal industry. All it takes is one hot day, or one bad storm, to get the whackos rolling again – like a gambleholic who hits a $2,000 jackpot after losing $500,000 … all the previous losses fade into the mist. That’s the problem in dealing with people who have no memory.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:17 PM

lorien1973 on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM

ummm yeah. I dare you to tell that to the california berkley idiots and tree huggers across the country!

I bet your arm gets bit off.

upinak on November 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM

I keep wondering, why are the computer models for the Earth’s climate, decades into the future, taken seriously by anyone when I don’t think any of the major econometric models predicted anything close to the current financial crisis?

It is all a big joke.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM

The National Academy of Sciences and most major scientific bodies agree that global warming is caused by man-made carbon emissions.

Problematic sentence, on more than one level.
Also: D’Aleo could have picked a more impactful medium for his data than OFA. If you invented a household fusion reactor furnace, you wouldn’t advertise it on a gum wrapper.

whitetop on November 25, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Does this mean Algore should return his Nobel prize and cash?

Riiggghhtt. I thought so.

tru2tx on November 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

HOLOCAUST DENIERS!!!!!

/Some idiot lib musician or artist or self-important yahoo who’s name I can’t even think of right now.

Hawkins1701 on November 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

The reason “global warming” failed to win support was its proposed solution: wealth transfer. There’s something about raising taxes that instantly reduces support. Thank goodness that we dodged this bullet.

Get this: The former Liberal gov’t in Canada wanted to rush Kyoto through, but found it hard to explain why they gave Ontario’s auto industry an exemption while dumping all the costs on to Alberta, where Liberals are unwelcome (to say the least). That’s like asking oil producing states like Texas and Oklahoma to pay triple while excluding the rustbelt states like Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana. You can imagine how Texans would react to something like that.

KillerKane on November 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM

I guess opening that suntan lotion stand at the Iceland Beach wasn’t such a good idea. I should have kept my money in the stock market.

dirtseller on November 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM

He has blamed what he calls the misguided fight against global warming for contributing to the international financial crisis, branded Al Gore an “apostle of arrogance” for his role in that fight, and accused the European Union of acting like a Communist state.

Entelechy on November 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Global temperature records show that 1998 was an unusually warm year (but not as warm as 1934), where high sunspot activity coincided with a strong El Nino, both of which tend to cause warming. This was about the time people started peddling global-warming theories to the general public, although Al Gore (Vice President at the time) didn’t jump on the bandwagon until after he lost the 2000 Presidential election.

We haven’t had a year as warm as 1998 since then, and there was a sharp cooling between 2006 and 2008, with glaciers getting LONGER and more sea ice in the Arctic, even though CO2 levels and emissions haven’t gone down.

So carbon dioxide doesn’t heat up the planet, but scientists have discovered another interesting factoid about high CO2 levels in the atmosphere. They tend to increase plant growth rates and crop yields. If the climate is getting cooler and growing seasons shorter, putting out more CO2 for faster plant growth should be a cause all good liberals should embrace: feeding the hungry.

Steve Z on November 25, 2008 at 5:35 PM

As it continues to get colder and colder over the next 20-30 years it’s going to get harder and harder to ignore.

Hopefully these scientists can get enough support from THE PEOPLE, and therefore Congress, to save us from throwing more $$ down a rat hole. Although throwing money down rat holes seems to be in style these days.

Ordinary1 on November 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM

I rather enjoyed reading this the other day:

Europe’s $14 Billion Clean-Coal Plan Lacking Backers

By Alex Morales and Jonathan Stearns

Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) — A European proposal to spend 11 billion euros ($14 billion) testing how to pump greenhouse gases underground is itself getting buried.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a9VLEsS3aU2Q&refer=exclusive

Looks like the euroweenies need to man-up or shut up. They’ve been hysterical for years about man made climate change, but they seem to want the US to knuckle under while they fail to meet the mandates.

/would I expect anything else? lol

Cody1991 on November 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

“I’m melting… I’m melting” Ding Dong the witch is dead.

Hog Wild on November 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Pay more in taxes to gubbermint, so gubbermint scientists can pretend to control the weather. The perfect scam.

tarpon on November 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM

I keep wondering, why are the computer models for the Earth’s climate, decades into the future, taken seriously by anyone when I don’t think any of the major econometric models predicted anything close to the current financial crisis?

It is all a big joke.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM

I work at an environmental consulting firm with lots of meteorologists, who tell me that the best weather models can only accurately predict the weather about five days in advance (if current weather conditions are input to the model), and diverge sharply from reality ten days in advance. If the models can’t predict 10 DAYS from now, how can they predict 10 YEARS from now, much less 100 years?

Ask meteorologists about global warming, they all think it’s bunk. They’re the ones who should know, but nobody asks them their opinion, because it doesn’t fit the agenda.

Steve Z on November 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM

I’ve always said at cocktail parties to stir some trouble that organic farming and global warming were symptoms of white people with to much time and money on their hands.

Well the money is gone, about 38 trillion at last count. There goes the food and Kyoto.

Rather than admit that more research is needed, global-warming activists have increased the hysterical tone of their efforts, demanding immediate action and giving dire predictions of catastrophe without it.

But honestly it was never about Warming it was about controlling the means of production. What they could not achieve by popular demand they were hoping to achieve by fear and judicial means. The “reddish” menace will never die.

patrick neid on November 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM

He has blamed what he calls the misguided fight against global warming for contributing to the international financial crisis, branded Al Gore an “apostle of arrogance” for his role in that fight, and accused the European Union of acting like a Communist state.

Entelechy on November 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM

I really admire that guy. Of course, he’s spot on.

A close friend of mine who lives in TN recently told me that Fat Al, reacting to the public exposure of his energy-guzzling homestead, paid nearly $1MM to make it more energy efficient. Contractors had to sign a confidentiality clause or something swearing that no one would be told about the work. Ooopsy!!

What an idiot. Why make everyone swear to silence when the entire world knows that Al is just another liberal hypocrite? I guess that’s a question only a conservative can answer. ;)

We need to get to work on the Obama’s Hyde Park monstrosity.

Cody1991 on November 25, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Global warming IS real. The older Mrs Limerick gets the more frequent the hot flashes. Egg frying hot flashes. These asbestos PJs of mine are sure itchy.

Limerick on November 25, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Got a lot of major ego’s involved in keeping “Global Warming” a hot topic….to say nothing of it’s padding their pockets.

GarandFan on November 25, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Inquiring minds want to know:

When will Heidi Cullen be fired from the Weather Channel?

Buy Danish on November 25, 2008 at 5:55 PM

…. putting out more CO2 for faster plant growth should be a cause all good liberals should embrace: feeding the hungry.

Steve Z on November 25, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Rational people would think so but then again, look at the subject of your sentence. If the hungry are fed, there would be one less reason to be a liberal/leftist.

Harpoon on November 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM

I like turtles.

Climate Change, not Global Warming. That way, it doesn’t matter what the weather does, as long as it changes, its our fault. I’ve got a few more we can throw at the wall and see if they stick…

Tidal Change – Commercial fishing, pollution and shipping will eventually cause the tides to increase and flood our coastal states and cities.

Lunar Change – Landing on the moon or even looking at it will eventually contribute to the global Tidal Changes caused by man.

Volcanic Eruptions – Mining and pollution cause a higher frequency and power of volcanic eruptions. Eventually, the sky will be permanently blackened by a man-caused eruption of Mother Earth retaliating and striking back at man.

Gravitational Field Disruption – Pollution and mankind’s destruction of Mother Earth will cause Her to strike back and erode the magnetic fields around the earth, thus disrupting everyones’ circadian rhythms and eventually destroying man.

C’mon, you can do it too! Create your own mythical man-made catastrophe, if that dunce Al Gore can do it, you can too!

Wheeeeeee!

Geministorm on November 25, 2008 at 6:04 PM

But I thought all the world knew that man-made global warming was accepted science.

What next?

Does Manbearpig not exist?

[Would it be tacky to demand that the cash conferred with the Nobel Prize be returned?]

coldwarrior on November 25, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Climate change will continue to have its backers. Many “supporters” of global warming are already falling back to the “but shouldn’t we all want a cleaner planet” argument.

Of course, saying CO2 is a pollutant is like saying salt pollutes. It’s a natural ingredient of the atmosphere, and vital to plant life. The fact that animals are a leading contributor to greenhouse gasses should convince any reasonable person that we shouldn’t give up our cars and coal plants. I mean, cow belching is the biggest human-oriented contributor, so why don’t we start with feeding all cows garlic? Because that’s silly.

Oh – and the juicy part is, we’d have to get rid of cows, AND rice paddies, AND wetlands, AND termites in order to seriously reduce methane emissions.

hawksruleva on November 25, 2008 at 6:21 PM

But wait, I thought it was settled, and those of us that didn’t swallow it whole were just a bunch of anti-science republicans?

thirteen28 on November 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM

It’s not at all surprising that the consensus is unravelling now. The industrialized world can no longer afford to throw trillions at the specter of “Climate Change”.

Mike Honcho on November 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Does this mean Algore should return his Nobel prize and cash?
tru2tx on November 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

All of Al Gore’s “scientific findings” were completely fake, but accurate.

And if that standard is good enough for CBS News, it’s good enough for the Nobel committee.

logis on November 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM

I’m not sold on carbon trade but reducing pollution and the need to move out economy off of fossil fuels should remain top priorities for policy makers.

lexhamfox on November 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM

It’s only a matter of time before faux scientist Al Gore is exposed as one of the biggest fraud’s in modern history.

jonezee on November 25, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Now I really will buy this bumper sticker and put it on my gas guzzling, belching SUV:

“Al Gore can kiss my Carbon Footprint”

I just wish I still lived on the west coast to show it off.

tru2tx on November 25, 2008 at 6:33 PM

It is easy to argue that we must sacrifice to save the polar bears when the unemployment rate is at 4% – a bit harder when millions are losing their jobs and the industrial base is cratering. The left will use the current crisis to try to take more control of the economy, which is as predictable as it is loathsome, but there is a silver lining for the right in that it will highlight how silly the AGW argument really is.

holdfast on November 25, 2008 at 6:35 PM

patrick neid on November 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM

+1

muggedbyreality on November 25, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Global warming IS real. The older Mrs Limerick gets the more frequent the hot flashes. Egg frying hot flashes. These asbestos PJs of mine are sure itchy.

Limerick on November 25, 2008 at 5:50 PM

I feel for Mrs. Limerick. Hope she has a fan. Tell her that soaking feet in cool water before bed might help. (But not to put said soaked feet upon to Mr. Limerick’s hynie!)

Chewy the Lab on November 25, 2008 at 6:39 PM

Kyoto is a scam, like a televangelist promising salvation for a donation. Oppose it to the bitter end.

KillerKane on November 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM

If you oppose global warming, you are a bible thumper.
yet the only folks acting like ‘bible thumpers’ (i.e, overzealous, unreasonable, unrelenting) are, well, global warming partisans.

Funny how that works. . .

vinman on November 25, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I still need to design a bumper sticker that reads —-

¨Be Carbon Neutral. Stop breathing¨

Also, consider that CO2 makes up around .05 percent of the Earth´s atmosphere and artificial human emissions contribute to just 4 per cent of total carbon dioxide.

4% of .05% is two thousands of a per cent in the atmosphere. It´s hard to believe that some people are willing to drastically alter worldwide wealth distribution based on that number. No wait, with the amount of propaganda and politically driven science occurring, it´s not.

Multibucket on November 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Hopefully these scientists can get enough support from THE PEOPLE, and therefore Congress, to save us from throwing more $$ down a rat hole. Although throwing money down rat holes seems to be in style these days.

Ordinary1 on November 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Someone needs to read Ace more often for the appropriate links… this one from Onion News. :)

http://tinyurl.com/63a3q3

Swapped for TinyURL as I can never get that link right.

gekkobear on November 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM

In a possibly related news story, rumors are circulating around Wall Street that a certain well known Nobel Prize winner and creator of the Internet has been transferring millions made in rake offs from stock of companies selling carbon offsets into companies making such items as attic insulation, thermal blankets, long johns, snow parkas and extra thick mittens.

MB4 on November 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM

It’s only a matter of time before faux scientist Al Gore is exposed as one of the biggest fraud’s in modern history.

jonezee on November 25, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Al started a hoax. Which started the whole world thinking they were going to be a frying.
But what Al didn’t see was that the joke would be on he.
Oh, no, Al started to cry. Which started the whole world laughing.
Oh, if he’d only seen that the joke would be on he.

Al looked at the skies. Running his hands over his eyes.
And he fell from his throne. Hurting his head from things that he’d said.

Till Al’s power finally died. Which started the whole world living drilling.
Oh, if he’d only seen that the joke would be on he.

Oh, no, that the joke would be on he.

MB4 on November 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM

let’s face it – climate change is another in a long line of anti-capitalist dogmas. Science can be twisted to suit any agenda. I saw this documentary called “Harlan County, USA” where the mine company produced a report that said working in coal mines did not lead to black lung disease. Right. If the capitalists can do it, so can the anti-capitalists.

KillerKane on November 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM

D’Aleo reported in the 2009 Old Farmer’s Almanac that the U.S. annual mean temperature has fluctuated for decades and has only risen 0.21 degrees since 1930 —

Is this what science has become? What other peer-reviewed scientific journals are this published?

dentalque on November 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM

My collie says:

Anyone asking for a bailout should be issued all the carbon offsets that they want.

CyberCipher on November 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM

CyberCipher on November 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Brilliant! I love it.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM

let’s face it – climate change is another in a long line of anti-capitalist dogmas
KillerKane on November 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM

Now that we have been forced to embrace socialism the enviro-nazis can back off. With our economy slowing at a rapid pace they no longer have to sound the alarm bells as loudly, which is lucky for them now that their scam is crumbling around them.

thomasaur on November 25, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Great Post. Funny facts just keep bubbling up despite ideology’s best efforts to snuff them out.

Mark30339 on November 25, 2008 at 8:14 PM

We’ve been pretty much 10-20 degrees below normal here in western PA. And it is snowing to beat the band right now, we should have 6-8″ by morning.

“Global Warming” is and always has been BAD SCIENCE. Politically motivated BAD SCIENCE.

Zorro on November 25, 2008 at 8:19 PM

I have studied this a lot and the CO2 freaks are doomed. The September 23rd, 2008 paper by Mears and Wentz basically conceded the last piece of turf they were defending.

The solar model fits perfectly. Read the abstract of this:

http://www.mps.mpg.de/dokumente/publikationen/solanki/c153.pdf

and note that the final sentence has now been overturned.

Pythagoras on November 25, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Global warming IS real. The older Mrs Limerick gets the more frequent the hot flashes. Egg frying hot flashes. These asbestos PJs of mine are sure itchy.

Limerick on November 25, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Ha! My sweetie suffers from that as well!

Zorro on November 25, 2008 at 8:22 PM

It isn’t Global Warming …

It isn’t Global Cooling …

It isn’t Climate Change …

It is as it always has been. It is a phenomenon well known to be Weather.

Today’s problem is that predicting the Weather has been taken over by Whether Men.

Whether they are right today, whether they are right tomorrow, or even if it takes one hundred years, when the data is finally ‘right’ they will claim there is the proof they were right.

For 8 years the liberal media has been screaming ‘RECESSION!’. Today I listen to these same people state that this time they might be right. Such are the claims made by Whethermen.

DannoJyd on November 25, 2008 at 8:32 PM

This may have already been posted, but NBC fired the entire staff of the Weather Channel’s global warming show, and cancelled it.

Forecast Earth was hosted by former CNN anchor Natalie Allen, with contributions from climate expert Heidi Cullen. It was the sole program on TWC that focused on global climate change, which raises the question of whether the station will still report on the subject. Cullen’s future role at the network is not known.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2008/11/nbc_fires_twc_environmental_un.html

juliesa on November 25, 2008 at 8:38 PM

“Global Warming” is and always has been BAD SCIENCE. Politically motivated BAD SCIENCE.

Zorro on November 25, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Gosh, I hope not. Based on all the hysterical predictions of the oceans rising, I’ve invested in Appalachian property that I fully expect will be the new Atlantic Coast in 20 to 25 years. Anybody interested in a cabin on a few acres, with a scenic view of the Catoctin mountains….?

Red State State of Mind on November 25, 2008 at 8:41 PM

I remember the Global Cooling hysterics from years ago. An Ice Age was coming! We needed to do something! Then, it turned to Global Warming. And more hysterics. Give it a few years and we’ll be right back to the hysterics of Global Cooling. We’ll always have loony, idiotic, moronic nitwits. We just have to make sure that they don’t get reelected.

WVMark on November 25, 2008 at 8:50 PM

“Consensus” is not how science works.

One correct scientist represents a consensus!

rock the casbah on November 25, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Tell Duke Power that. They are busy advertising their new “balance your equation” crap on the radio…

Mommypundit on November 25, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

hillbillyjim on November 25, 2008 at 9:21 PM

One thing that’s going to drive me crazy is when the libs say “yah, I knew it all along. It was never REALLY about global warming. It was about PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER and taking a stand.”

*pulls a patch of hair out*

Mojave Mark on November 25, 2008 at 9:29 PM

It never was about climate, or saving the environment. As I have stated many times, it’s all about centralizing control and retarding growth, to further a Leftist/Socialist agenda.

Meanwhile watch as Euroweenies get throttled by Cap’N'Trade, which as its dirtiest little secret depends entirely upon imports of nuclear-generated electricity and oil and gas imports from Russia and the CIS. Watch as entire industry segments exit Europe, never to return, and the result of this exodus impacts upon the EU’s ability to meet its social welfare obligations.

Oh, and remind all those stupid places in Europe that depend upon tourism that it’s not a good thing to travel there, because doing so “inflicts damage to the planet”…

Wanderlust on November 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

This news is apt to send Pelosi into apoplexy. Good.

onlineanalyst on November 25, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Our crappy economy is going in the tank and they want to saddle industry and the consumer with a bunch of expensive gimicks that will effectively do nothing to affect climate change…good idea. Maybe we can all munch on our carbon footprints or perhaps burn them to keep warm this winter.

Wyznowski on November 25, 2008 at 10:08 PM

most of what passes for ‘science’ these days is nothing more than a secular religion. the cult of global warming…and the cult of evolution are two prominent examples where facts don’t matter.

and any deviation from the ‘consensus’ is heresy, and the heretics must be purged and silenced from ‘science’

right4life on November 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Amazingly, it took a bit over a decade for so many scientists to realize what I knew right away. Makes me feel pretty superior.

Vashta.Nerada on November 25, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Soon, Joetox Biden’s insistence during the debate that global warming is REAL & it’s TOTALLY man-made will be added to the list of his gaffes.

jgapinoy on November 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM

“Consensus” is not how science works.

One correct scientist represents a consensus!

rock the casbah on November 25, 2008 at 8:58 PM

+1!

The late, deeply lamented Michael Crichton wrote most eloquently on this matter (cf here [.pdf]).

Appeals to consensus are rhetorical/political phenomena, and as such have NO PLACE in any inquiry that purports to be scientific in nature.

The theologically derived consensus that the Earth revolved around the Sun constituted no more accurate an answer to the questions which observers put to the universe than does the economic determinism which undergirds the “science” on the matter of global warming.

For those who don’t toss this down the same memory hole as Global Cooling, this will be remembered as a pathetically silly moment in the history of human scientific thought.

Noocyte on November 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I do hope that the optimists are right and that science will overwhelm politics….but I’m not so sure.

There’s a whole lot of people, industries, institutions, pols etc. that have bet their careers on this.

And they see their time has come. Time for the green revolution.

The damage enviros have done is already huge. Where would this country be if we have more oil, more nuke?

You can’t reason someone out of an opinion that they didn’t reason themselves into. They will fight tooth and nail against reason, using smears, name-calling, lies and anything else that will get them their goal.

r keller on November 25, 2008 at 11:57 PM

The earth’s surface is covered by two-thirds water called the oceans. The heat content of water is orders of magnitude greater than air. Meaning that is takes many times the energy to change the temperature of a water sample as compared to the same size air sample CO2 makes up around three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere. Only a fool would believe that a gas making up three hundreths of a percent of the atmosphere could counter-act the amazing stabilization effects of the oceans on global temperatures. Junk science at its worst…Thank GW for keeping us out of Kyoto and just maybe holding the line against the lunatic fringe long enough for the world to discover that Al Gore is a fraud…

Nozzle on November 26, 2008 at 12:08 AM

The only problem is that the next generation is still watching Al Gore’s movie in the classroom.

That translates to million of Enviromarxists 10 years from now.

Sorry to be Debbie the Downer.

Dadvocate on November 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM

In ten years the “Inconvenient Truth” movie will be the Reefer Madness of its time.

Now is the time to get some redistribution of wealth going. Bet a liberal $10k that it will be cooler in five years than it is today. How can they say no? If enough people do it. . .

smellthecoffee on November 26, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Heh. And, to think, I actually started buying into that theory. I should have known something was screwy when I read that article saying everywhere else in the world is warming EXCEPT in the U.S.

Achilles on November 26, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing. So, we should not be lulled into a false sense of security if the entire climate didn’t proceed most ricky-tick into the crapper, for crapperward it would surely resume in due course.

Before the aforementioned heliocentric view of the ‘verse (embarrassingly belatedly) took hold, a ‘theory’ emerged to explain the apparent retrograde movement of heavenly bodies (i.e., planets) by making reference to “epicycles.” These were posited as circular loops which these bodies executed in their circular journey around the earth (it was important that they be perfect circles, as they were expressions of the perfect Divine creation).

We must be very careful that reason not be similarly co-opted in the service of dogma with regard to Mother Earth’s intemperate cycles.

Noocyte on November 26, 2008 at 2:32 AM

GE/NBC’s firing of The Weather Channel Environ-mental Unit is good news for honest science and the blood pressure of the remaining sane. Politicizing The Weather Channel was a new low in the annals of skankdom.

Besides occurring during NBC’s Green Week, ICECAP notices some interesting speculation into why:

The dismantling of The Weather Channel Environmental team is as much a public relations statement as it is a material policy shift exacted by General Electric…
By the public execution of the environmental unit GE was tacitly communicating to worldwide investors that they “Get It”. It is also notable that during the same week that this action occurred, The French Company responsible for constructing GE wind turbines, business model failed and to the degree that GE was enmeshed in financing the operation, they failed as well.

More on NBC’s plight and bonus: Mann’s Hockey Stick Zombie, revivified for 2008, had its mouth filled with salt and lips sewed shut again.

The sunspot cycle is two years later than predicted and hasn’t ramped up yet. The Sun’s magnetic field is reduced. Sol sends Al Gore a chill pill.

Any warming by CO2 is limited and past the point where any further increase will make a difference.

Feedie on November 26, 2008 at 3:59 AM

The Ice Age is coming! I think global warming has also been used by anti globalists who are looking for a way to promote pristine poverty for the third world.

Terrye on November 26, 2008 at 6:59 AM

I use kidtv as a yardstick to measure this, and the consensus has definitely collapsed. Disney and Nickelodean(sp?) have been preaching “greenness” at my 14 year old daughter since she was a tot. Sometime in the last year or so, though, the greenery has become a regular target for mocking jokes along these lines:

“Who cares? It’s a polar bear! I’ve survived this long without seeing one. That’s what cameras are for. Just don’t make me drive that electric car.”

Lame, but not as lame as the preaching!

brobin on November 26, 2008 at 8:16 AM

Red State State of Mind on November 25, 2008 at 8:41 PM

You mean the Catoctin Islands don’t you Red?

I hope that mountain property isn’t more than about 20 feet above current sea level, since that’s about the maximum worst-case prediction over the next hundred years.

DarkCurrent on November 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM

The theologically derived consensus that the Earth revolved around the Sun

Noocyte on November 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Gah!

Strike that. Reverse it.

Teach me to comment in the wee hours.

Noocyte on November 26, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Noocyte: no, it’s back that way since the Sun (Obama) has come to power. Now he will revolve around the earth bringing light, peace and justice to all.

KillerKane on November 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Some months ago, it came out that climate researchers had cobbled together a model which showed that there would be 10-year pause in Global Warming, due to somedamnthing.
Noocyte on November 26, 2008 at 2:32 AM

That’s the way junk science works: they can’t PROVE their theory prospectively, they can only RATIONALIZE it after the fact.

You give me a big pile of data (and a bigger pile of money) and I’ll show you a vaguely chicken-shaped hole in the Ozone Layer above Toledo, Ohio. And what’s more, I’ll show you how it’s insidiously becoming ever more chicken-shaped over time.

What I can’t do is make a PREDICTION about the future, or specify a testable hypothesis that someone else can use to prove OR DISPROVE my theory using a different data set, or even just a different set of interval cut-off points. ‘Cause if I tried that, my little “Global Chickening Theory” would fall apart faster than a Teflon-coated house of cards.

logis on November 26, 2008 at 4:10 PM

NO ‘Consensus’ on “Man-Made” Global Warming

Get your kids to watch these movies instead of Gore’s propaganda:

Censored Global Warming Videos

Poptech on November 26, 2008 at 5:07 PM

I keep wondering, why are the computer models for the Earth’s climate, decades into the future, taken seriously by anyone when I don’t think any of the major econometric models predicted anything close to the current financial crisis?

It is all a big joke.

progressoverpeace on November 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM

FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in “Man-Made” Global Warming

Poptech on November 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM

FACT: Only Computer Illiterates believe in “Man-Made” Global Warming
Poptech on November 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM

“Garbage In, Garbage Out” doesn’t even BEGIN to describe the cluster-f*ck of an excuse for scientific theory that Global Warming has become.

I once cornered a Global Warming “researcher” back in college – asking him how in the heck he could possibly know how much C02 the biosphere was capable of absorbing. And he jabbered something about how there wasn’t enough selenium in the ocean to support the kinds of organisms that absorb CO2.

Selenium? So this (take my word for it) scatter-brained feeb had input THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH into his computer model, and it spit out this result: “Not enough selinium in oceans; ergo, world will end in 20-200 years.”

I didn’t bother following that up any further, because I knew that within a month the model will be scrapped again and replaced by another — no doubt tweaked until it shows that that some other obscure elemental shortage is going to doom us all.

And, somehow, they all have the exact same “20-200 year” time range that every doomsayer worth his salt has always used to cover his tracks: a minimum long enough so that no one will ever remember what I said, let alone be able to prove me wrong; and a maximum short enough that you can still kind of picture the ancestors you’ll be murdering if you don’t pay me money RIGHT NOW.

logis on November 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM