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Appellate court upholds warrantless searches abroad

posted at 9:18 am on November 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Second Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the convictions of three terrorists convicted prior to 9/11 of working with al-Qaeda to attack American interests.  The three-judge panel ruled that the requirement for warrants and Miranda warnings do not apply to American citizens living abroad, which may surprise privacy advocates.  The ruling will almost certainly pique the curiosity of the Supreme Court in this session:

The authorities may lawfully conduct searches and electronic surveillance against United States citizens in foreign countries without a warrant, a federal appeals court panel said on Monday, bolstering the government’s power to investigate terrorism by ruling that a key constitutional protection afforded to Americans does not apply overseas.

The unanimous decision by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in Manhattan, came in the case of three Al Qaeda terrorists convicted a few months before 9/11 in a conspiracy that involved the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in East Africa. …

While noting that Mr. el-Hage “suffered, while abroad, a significant invasion of privacy by virtue of the government’s yearlong surveillance of his telephonic communications,” the panel offered a detailed analysis of why the search was reasonable under the Constitution, given the “self-evident need to investigate threats to national security” that foreign terrorist organizations presented.

The panel said the electronic surveillance was justified — and reasonable — for a number of reasons, including that “sustained and intense monitoring” was necessary to understand a “complex, wide-ranging and decentralized” organization like Al Qaeda; and that members of covert terrorist organizations often communicated in code.

The decision did not involve the warrantless surveillance of communications between US and foreign locations, but it may have done enough to undermine any challenge to that NSA program and even the prevoius Gitmo decisions by the Supreme Court.  In this case, the court ruled that the Constitutional limits on the executive at war do not apply to areas outside of American sovereignty, even when involving American citizens.  In Boumediene, the Supreme Court strongly implied the opposite, even with non-citizens.

That may be enough for the Supreme Court to quickly grant certiorari for this case.  The obvious tension between Boumediene and el-Hage will have to be resolved, one way or the other.  Either the Constitution’s reach ends at the waters’ edges, or it reaches everywhere and applies to all living human beings.

Apart from that conflict with recent precedent, this ruling gives welcome clarity to the role of the federal judiciary in the fight against international terrorism.  The Second Circuit gives great latitude to the executive branch to fight this new kind of war properly, with only common-sense involvement by the judiciary.  The ruling also blocks defendants from accessing classified data critical to national security, although their attorneys can view it if cleared for access.  That will protect the intelligence gatherers and make it safe for us to process detainees.

As the Times notes, that will also make it easier to claim that we can process foreign terrorists through the federal judiciary.  That argument can be made, but the better argument is that foreign terrorists captured by our military or intelligence agencies don’t belong in federal court in the first place.  Just as in every other war we’ve fought, unlawful combatants should get military tribunals and swift justice.  The Hamdan sentencing showed just as clearly that these detainees don’t need the federal courts to get a fair hearing.

Update: Saneworks disagrees that tension exists.  It seems to me that this decision allows warrantless searches, including surveillance, on American citizens abroad that would not pass muster within the US, which is where that tension exists.  They rely on a “reasonableness” standard, but specific to the intel need and the location of the subject outside the sovereignty of the US.


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Man that Borat guy just can’t catch a break!

Neo on November 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Mark one up for the good guys, for the time being…

Mark Garnett on November 25, 2008 at 9:29 AM

A little bit of sunshine on a bleak day. Thanks Ed.

Dee2008 on November 25, 2008 at 9:32 AM

It’ll get overturned…. as soone as the Supremes can take it.

Romeo13 on November 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Romeo13 on November 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

I don’t know if it will be overturned. It is outside the scope of US law if overseas. Try telling that to the Supremes…

kanda on November 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM

I really disagree with you Ed. This is a horrible decision. The court basically said you rights as an American end when you leave US soil. Our rights as citizens should be with us regardless of where we travel.

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM

I have long held that National Security interests trump all other concerns, including civil rights. You cannot try them in a criminal court for information obtained from unconstitutional surveillance, but you can sure as heck send the Marines to “neutralize” a threat to the peaceful existence of the USA as a nation, regardless of wiretap, warrant, or any other concerns.

Wino on November 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM

I’ve never understood the argument that American citizens should get the same rights if they live abroad. If I’m no longer on U.S. soil I wouldn’t expect to get the same rights as if I were. I think we should be able to wiretap any Americans if they’re overseas.

jonezee on November 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM

I’ve never understood the argument that American citizens should get the same rights if they live abroad. If I’m no longer on U.S. soil I wouldn’t expect to get the same rights as if I were. I think we should be able to wiretap any Americans if they’re overseas.

jonezee on November 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM

So you are only American when you live in America?

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Our rights as citizens should be with us regardless of where we travel.

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM

But…

search was reasonable under the Constitution, given the “self-evident need to investigate threats to national security” that foreign terrorist organizations presented

So do the authorities have to show this “self-evident need” before searching or surveilling? IDK, I tend to agree with Wino that National Security trumps, but Offroad has a point.

Dee2008 on November 25, 2008 at 10:04 AM

Either the Constitution’s reach ends at the waters’ edges, or it reaches everywhere and applies to all living human beings.

It’s hard to imagine that all twenty seven amendments would apply to all living human beings. Will muslims seek to reinstate the 18th amendment?

Zorro on November 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM

I agree with part of the decision Ed. But I also agree with Gabriel over at Aces place when he says:

Also: Lemme get it on the record; everyone is focusing on the Fourth Amendment issue here. By which I mean the Times’ article and much of the coverage on the lawblogs hasn’t even mentioned the second part of the opinion. But I think that second issue, a due process question involving secret evidence, will be more important in the long run. Defendants who never get to see the evidence against them? Whoa. Tread carefully, my friend.

broker1 on November 25, 2008 at 10:21 AM

Asked for comment, terrorists and liberals are seething with BDS.

perroviejo on November 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM

It’s hard to imagine that all twenty seven amendments would apply to all living human beings. Will muslims seek to reinstate the 18th amendment?

Zorro on November 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Framers believed that Rights came from God, and this document only enumerated them… given that outlook its pretty clear (because they believed that God made the world) that American Rights did not stop at the waters edge…

But it is a very murky subject… it was once common law that a countrys laws stopped at its borders, but after WWII that changed… now the US Court says it has worldwide jurisdiction… scary… and not all of the fallout from that has been adjudacated yet.

Romeo13 on November 25, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Our Rights do come from God. Our country recognises our Rights and cannot infringe upon them legally that is. Once you step foot into someone elses country though, though you may still have God given Rights, those same said Rights may not be fully recognised by the entity or government of the soil on which you stand.

Example: Freedom of Religion.

Go to Saudi Arabia, and open up a Christian book store and within about 10 minutes or maybe less, your store will be burnt down, you will be arrested and incarcerated.

But you still can worship GOD inside your head while you wait to be deported or beheaded or both.

44Magnum on November 25, 2008 at 10:38 AM

perroviejo on November 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM

It said the case was pre-9/11, I wonder when the surveillance took place. We wouldn’t want to suffer from BDS when it might be that a former president deserves blame/kudos.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Why anybody even pretends that the Constitution actually matters any more is what really puzzles me.

How weak does a case have to be to not be able to get a warrant? Every judge I’ve known would sign one just to avoid being late for his tee time.

Let’s just trash the whole thing. The search and seizure concessions are a good trade off the the first and second amendments.

angelat0763 on November 25, 2008 at 11:17 AM

So you are only American when you live in America?

Right. I have no delusions that other nations should be forced to uphold our rights when we are in their countries. But our own government arguing, sucessfully, for the right to ignore the restraints of the Constitution scares me a lot more than the terrorist boogeyman.

I suppose I am a minority, but I’d rather die free and proud.

angelat0763 on November 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM

This is a pretty bad decison on 2 counts:

1) The extraterritoriality of it all. If the Constitution really does stop at the waters edge then it stops period. I regardless of citizenship would then be subject to rules and punishments of whatever territory I am standing in. That same thought process could be applied to tax law as well, which the govt ignores with regularity.

2) Don’t think for one moment that such rulings won’t be applied against us in the future. For the same reason we scream at UN and foreign interventions on our territory, should we not apply the same standards as we apply them to others?

Dr. Dog on November 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM

I really disagree with you Ed. This is a horrible decision. The court basically said you rights as an American end when you leave US soil. Our rights as citizens should be with us regardless of where we travel.

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM

No, it means the US constitution does not extend outside of US territories. Nor should it.

Darth Executor on November 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM

1) The extraterritoriality of it all. If the Constitution really does stop at the waters edge then it stops period. I regardless of citizenship would then be subject to rules and punishments of whatever territory I am standing in.

Unless the US has an agreement with that particular country, you already are and should be.

Darth Executor on November 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM

At least it is a temporary check against those bad people that want to hurt us….

DL13 on November 25, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Back in my former career, I found at least once a week some American in some backwater country ran afoul of the local law…and demanded “I’m an American citizen. I demand my Rights!!” Much to the amusement of the local gendarmes…

As an American abroad, you are basically “entitled” to whatever the local government wishes to allow. The US Consulate can provide local legal assistance, but cannot “represent” you. Past the 12-mile limit…you are truly limited.

Somewhat different for US military members, under a SOFA agreement or other understanding with the local government.

coldwarrior on November 25, 2008 at 12:51 PM

No, it means the US constitution does not extend outside of US territories. Nor should it.

Darth Executor on November 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I have no problem with local laws being enforced by the local government. What I have a problem with is the US government ignoring the constitutional rights of a US citizen living over seas.

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I have no problem with local laws being enforced by the local government. What I have a problem with is the US government ignoring the constitutional rights of a US citizen living over seas.

offroadaz on November 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Then petition to have it codified in US law so that US officials have to respect the rights of countrymen regardless of where they are. As it stands you can’t apply US law in a place where the US has no jurisdiction. It’s absurd. And until this happens US citizens have no constitutional rights overseas.

Darth Executor on November 25, 2008 at 3:11 PM

A very pleasing surprise indeed. The last thing we need are more ROEs overseas.

Wilberforce_chick on November 25, 2008 at 11:02 PM

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