Not dangerous? He might not kill anybody anymore. But if he shows no remorse, I wonder if he won’t become active again in the leftist movement and inspire the next generation. An ex-terrorist who turns to teaching isn’t very far fetched…

Bill Ayers comes to mind.

Hey sistah, didz ya see, dem crazy Germans lets another one of dem prisoners go.

I knowz, now if i coulds only gets mah new president to lets mah brutha outs of prison, I would beez a happy gurl! He only killed 5 peeps, and it was all in self defense.

I knowz, sistah! I only hopz dem whiteys don’t cap him befo we gets out redistubification money, you knowz!

Word, my brotha!

Overheard at at another blog

As a European, I must say I agree with the importance of the rule of the law. What I don’t get is why ‘life sentences’, which replaced ‘death penalty’, have become 26 years sentences. This is where the law got broken in the first place.
Not dangerous? He might not kill anybody anymore. But if he shows no remorse, I wonder if he won’t become active again in the leftist movement and inspire the next generation. An ex-terrorist who turns to teaching isn’t very far fetched… And only a government organization which doesn’t discriminate would be likely to hire such a guy…

The German government claim that they can’t find a good reason to keep Christian Klar behind bars,

Really? I can think of a couple of good reasons to keep his sorry a$$ in prison for the rest of his worthless life: (1) punishment, and (2) deterrence.

AZCoyote on November 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

I really don’t think that deterrence comes into play with guys like this. Same for most Capital punishment candidates. But punishment should be reason enough.

They attack the foundations of democracy itself by attempting to impose policy on the vast majority of citizens who reject it.

Doesn’t sound AT ALL like what’s going on against Prop 8 in California…….

/sarcasm

dpierson on November 24, 2008 at 1:26 PM

I hear ya. My dad was CID and spent some time chasing these folks. I don’t know if he specifically chased Klar, but I do know he did chase the Bader-Meinhof gang.

The last face nine people saw gets to see daylight again.

Last thing before death is a mullet? [shivvvvvver]

The weak, feeble, flabby European countries have replaced mercy with justice, forgetting that mercy only exists in relation to justice. It has been spreading here as well.

I think you’re confusing cause and effect here. The reason why in Britain for instance there are no police patrolling the streets, super-light sentences and the brief consideration of letting the serial killer Myra Hindley out of jail is not because the ex-Trotskyists in government are weak or spineless but rather because presiding over a semi-lawless state suits their political purposes. It is much the same all over the EU. Of course they can always find the time and resources to arrest anyone who objects to the power of the state.

I do want to point out that even though the German penal system is a lot less harsh than ours, they have significantly less crime. So when their judges say that 26 years in prison is enough for mass murder, I’m willing to give those judges the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they are not totally stupid. What if their rules actually make sense?

factoid on November 24, 2008 at 3:53 PM,

Klar is a terrorist who kills people for fun, profit, and politics. He is just a German William Ayers, and both of them should have been executed for treason long ago.

The just punishment for murder is death. The just punishment for treason is death. Ayers and Klar committed both. Neither of these laws “make sense” because they are inherently unjust.

The weak, feeble, flabby European countries have replaced mercy with justice, forgetting that mercy only exists in relation to justice. It has been spreading here as well.

And I know what the rate is. The point is “we have 4 times the murder rate of Germany” is fairly pointless when we’re talking ten thousandths of a percent. It’s like the pro-choice whining that birth is 3 times more dangerous than an abortion, despite infant mortality from birth being virtually zero this days.

that the crime rate of blacks (esp. violent crime) is hugely disproportionally higher ( in all or nearly all countries) . Give Germany the same proportion of blacks and then report. I think you’ll find the Caucasian and East Asian crime rate is relatively low everywhere.
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This truncated prison sentence for this killer rat Klar sends the message that if you murder one or two you may as well slaughter as many as you can for the less than life sentence you’ll get if convicted is about the same in any case. This is just stupid – you’d think the German’s never heard of punishment for deterrence.

…is serving five life terms…
The court in Stuttgart said there were no grounds to keep him in custody.

Proverbs 29:2 “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: But when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.”

So you’re saying if I line up

1,000,000 people in America,
0,000,043 of them will be murdered at some point.

Yes, truly America is a backwards, violent nation that no reasonable person would want to go to, and we could learn from our European betters.

BKennedy on November 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM

No. That’s not what I’m saying. What the 43/million murder rate means is that if you randomly pick a million Americans, then on average 43 of them will be killed this year, and another 43 next year and so on.

Notice that I didn’t say anything about the Europeans being better in any way. I wouldn’t even say Europe in general is less violent than the US. For example Albania, Bulgaria and parts of Italy are much worse than the US average.

Generally there is no need for you to tell me what I am saying. When I want to say something I will say it myself. Thank you for the effort though.

I do want to point out that even though the German penal system is a lot less harsh than ours, they have significantly less crime. So when their judges say that 26 years in prison is enough for mass murder, I’m willing to give those judges the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they are not totally stupid. What if their rules actually make sense?

The German government claim that they can’t find a good reason to keep Christian Klar behind bars,

Really? I can think of a couple of good reasons to keep his sorry a$$ in prison for the rest of his worthless life: (1) punishment, and (2) deterrence.

Kaptain Amerika on November 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Well, there is this.

The US murder rate is about 43 per million; the German murder rate is about 11 per million. 43 is about four times as much as 11. Does that answer your question?

factoid on November 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM

So you’re saying if I line up

1,000,000 people in America,
0,000,043 of them will be murdered at some point.

Yes, truly America is a backwards, violent nation that no reasonable person would want to go to, and we could learn from our European betters.

Exit Question: How many of these murders are caused by loose immigration policy?

Looks like Hans Gruber finally won.

MadisonConservative on November 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

From the movie:

Hans Gruber: The following people are to be released from their captors: In Northern Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Sri Lanka, the nine members of the Asian Dawn movement…
John McClane: [listening on the radio] What the ****?
Karl: [mouthing silently] Asian Dawn?
Hans: [covers the radio] I read about them in Time magazine.

“we weren’t involved in the planning or execution of the Waco operation in any way, shape, form or fashion

Please read his quote closely as well…

Not involved in the planning or execution of the Waco operation…

My friend was NOT in on the planning… and was not in on the Raid (and in fact, his story is they really tried to tell them NOT to do it… but were of course overruled by the Civys, as the whole thing was not under their jurisdiction…). According to him they were there as “Observers”, and “Advisors”, somthing that was the Green Beret mission back then…