Finally: Guy who wrote in “Lizard People” on Coleman-Franken ballot comes forward

posted at 7:15 pm on November 24, 2008 by Allahpundit

Prepare to have your stereotypes shattered: He’s a young white male with a goatee who’s been alienated from politics by George Bush.

On the U.S. Senate section of the ballot, the oval for Al Franken was filled in. But at the bottom was a write-in for Lizard People. Lucas Davenport says it was meant as a joke.

“I don’t know if you’ve heard the conspiracy theory about the Lizard Men,” said Davenport. “A friend of mine, we didn’t like the candidates, so we were at first going to write in revolution, because we thought that was good and to the point. And then, we thought the Lizard People would be even funnier, and there was kind of a running inside gag between some friends and I.”…

“I mean, it was on ‘Hardball,’ and there was serious discussion about it, it’s ridiculous. If Lizard People, in plural, is written in on the ballot, I don’t think it should be taken seriously, whatsover, and this animosity is just wonderful,” said Davenport.

His ballot was tossed, which makes it me 1, Patterico 0. Good news from Politico, though: The recount melodrama could drag on for another month, with Franken favored to eke out a victory thanks to the fact that so many Democratic voters are “free-spirited,” i.e. stupid.


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His ballot was tossed,

Good. Going by the rules it was an overvote. Both for Franken and for Lizard people.

And now he claims it’s a “joke”? I think that’s an attack on lizard people. Hate crime!

rbj on November 24, 2008 at 7:19 PM

Hmmm Alan Colmes looking for a job and Lizard People on the ballot….does Colmes have a future in politics?

Jamson64 on November 24, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I’m sure the Lizard People are insulted that Davenport voted for them AND Franken. I have known Lizard People, and Franken, you are no Lizard Person.

Dee2008 on November 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM

He’s a young white male douche bag with a goatee who’s been alienated from by politics by George Bush getting kicked out his mom’s basement.

Seems more plausible….

BigWyo on November 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM

It had to be a liberal…what else?

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Prepare to have your stereotypes shattered

…. r-i-g-h-t

Harpoon on November 24, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Hmmmmmm….. I still haven’t figured it out, is this guy starting a third party, or what? “Let the Lizard Revolution begin” kind of has a nice ring to it….

DL13 on November 24, 2008 at 7:27 PM

He is the future of the country…….we be in trouble!!!

grapeknutz on November 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Why does it not bother anyone that Al Franken is stealing this election?? Why is there no Republican group sueing to prevent this travesty? Must we gather together and march on Washington (peacefully) to take back our country from these thieves?

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on November 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM

He is right about one thing, as foolish as it sounds…it is his vote and he can do what he wants with it. In this case he threw it away, otherwise it would have gone to Franken.
Thanks be to the Lizard People, praise to the lizard people…

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM

I assumed it was a seventy five-year-old survivalist grandma who was preempting an alliance with the subterranean lizard people against the mutant remnants of the human race following a nuclear holocaust induced by The One. I guess I should learn to be less imaginative.

Tacitus_SGL on November 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Tossed for what? Franken’s bubble is filled in.

SoulGlo on November 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Why does it not bother anyone that Al Franken is stealing this election?? Why is there no Republican group sueing to prevent this travesty? Must we gather together and march on Washington (peacefully) to take back our country from these thieves?

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on November 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Don’t you read the papers, or HotAir?
Republicans have, along with the dems, a person looking over every shoulder.
There can be no lawsuit, the election was so close that it triggered a recount, a legal recount. So that is what they are having.
So far Republicans (last I heard) have objected to more ballots then the dems.

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Prepare to have your stereotypes shattered: He’s a young white male with a goatee who’s been alienated from by politics by George Bush.

Actually that’s exactly the type of person I imagined being so stupid. Though I didn’t see the part where he’s still living in the parent’s basement.

highhopes on November 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Tossed for what? Franken’s bubble is filled in.

SoulGlo on November 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Because any write in gets the prority, however if there is a candidate selected and the form is defaces with a write in, the ballot is void.
It is written on the bottom of the ballot as plain as day. You can only make a mark for the person you are voting for.
Doesn’t anyone read anymore???

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:34 PM

Prepare to have your stereotypes shattered: He’s a young white male with a goatee who’s been alienated from by politics by George Bush.

Gee, I suspected a 40 year old Republican businessmen in a suit and tie who wrote in Lizard People…I’m stunned.

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Doesn’t anyone read anymore???

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:34 PM

You’re assuming they can read….

BigWyo on November 24, 2008 at 7:43 PM

So,let me get this straight,from what I gather from this
‘Liberal’,it sounds like the Liberal Democrat Party has
stooped so low, that they went into Lizard County, and
signed up Lizards in a voter registration drive!

It never ends,what did ACORN promise the ‘lizard people’
for voting for the ‘ONE,frogs and snakes? (Snark!)Haha.

canopfor on November 24, 2008 at 7:43 PM

I just wanted to know if Lizard People was plural, or a potential Senator People, first name Lizard. I thought I’d never know, but he says it’s plural. I feel good.

exception on November 24, 2008 at 7:46 PM

12 monkeys

44Magnum on November 24, 2008 at 7:46 PM

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: These recounts are a waste of time and money, When an elections close enough to require a recount, we should just flip a coin with all due ceremony, and be civilized about the result. Why do we sacralize the difference of a handful of votes in a million vote election?

CK MacLeod on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Hey, it could have been Franken by a landslide. I’ll take the Lizard People any day.

manwithblackhat on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Any relation to Crab People?

Mayhem on November 24, 2008 at 7:49 PM

I was imagining the comic book sales-dude from the Simpsons. A few more pounds and glasses and…viola! Not too far off.

robblefarian on November 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM

we should just flip a coin with all due ceremony, and be civilized about the result.

I wish we could. But I don’t think people who threaten riots if their candidate doesn’t win are willing to do that.

snaggletoothie on November 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM

I’m not so sure Franken can steal this election. Checking the latest recount statistics by county given by the Star-Tribune,

http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenco.html

the latest recount has Coleman up 202 votes. His original lead prior to the recount was 215 votes, and it had dwindled to 130 votes at one point, but is now back up.

In the big counties, Hennepin Co. (Minneapolis) is 74% recounted and Coleman netted 3 votes; St. Louis Co. (Duluth) is completely recounted and Coleman netted 57 votes, Dakota Co. is 55% recounted and Franken netted 14 votes, and Ramsey Co. (St Paul) is 43% recounted and Franken netted 35 votes, but Franken had netted 39 votes when Ramsey was only 30% counted.

These adjustments are mostly due to both candidates LOSING votes based on challenges or previously counted ballots being thrown out, NOT undervotes being counted for a candidate.

There are still a few moderately populous counties remaining to be counted:

Scott Co. C 33,827 F 20,687
Wright Co. C 32,989 F 18,663
Sherburne Co. C 22,886 F 13,399
Blue Earth Co. C 13,665 F 14,481
Winona Co. C 11,317 F 12,755

Three of these counties strongly favor Coleman, the other two slightly favor Franken. The other remaining counties are fairly low population, and shouldn’t produce major shifts. The major unknown is the remaining 57% of Ramsey County, which Franken won by 142,069 to 92,816.

The Coleman campaign has challenged more ballots (1,285) than the Franken campaign (1,138). Unless the Coleman challenges are shown to be more frivolous than the Franken challenges, and each candidate wins an equal percentage of the challenges, Coleman has a decent chance of maintaining his lead. The challenged ballots will probably decide the election, but Franken can only win is the Canvassing Board upholds a significantly higher percentage of his challenges than those of Coleman.

The fact that the “Lizard People” ballot was tossed is a good sign–if Lizardman had not played his practical joke, Franken would have had an extra vote. Are there other practical jokers out there that joked themselves out of voting for the Joker himself (Franken)? If so, the joke is on them, and we’ll have Norm(al) Coleman in the Senate.

Steve Z on November 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM

PS: I would appreciate a post by Ed Morrissey on the recount–since he’s from Minnesota, he probably knows better!

Steve Z on November 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM

Why do we sacralize the difference of a handful of votes in a million vote election?

CK MacLeod on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Because we traditionally follow the rule that every vote counts (unless the moron voter opts to vote a lizard party ticket). We DON’T shrug our shoulders and say “close enough” when the race comes down to a handful of votes. Shame on you sir!

highhopes on November 24, 2008 at 8:03 PM

You can only make a mark for the person you are voting for.
Doesn’t anyone read anymore???

right2bright on November 24, 2008 at 7:34 PM

Probably they read but the attitude is “you were serious about that?” when the vote gets tossed as an overvote.

highhopes on November 24, 2008 at 8:06 PM

Who is interested in starting the process of “think-tanking” how to reform the elections process? No matter who comes out the winner, the problem of legitimacy remains. The voters have learned to accept that elections are not run ethically, logically or fairly, but accepting that only leads to a sense of abject apathy and alienation.

The erosion of legitimacy is one of those issues that will never spontaneously ignite the populace into action. It will be the job of people who care to move forward, beyond just identifying what is wrong. We must move on to thinking about how to fix it.

Unequal Time

bryanmyrick on November 24, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Breaking News from BendOver Backward News (BBN).

Stop the press’s;

In an about face,the Lizard Lobbyists are hissing and
hopping mad at the betrayel of the Hopey/Changey Admin
istration over the deal of snakes and frogs for votes!

In a carefully prepared written statement,the Lizard
coaltion are threatening court action over the delivery
of frogs and snakes!

According to a spokesman for Hopey,it was PETA who threat
en a law suit if the frogs and snakes were to be delivered,
and PETA has threatened to have a nude human shield surroun
ding Lizard County!

And in the latest update,Pelosi is demanding a special
prosecutor,dubbed “LizardGate”! (Snark!)haha.

canopfor on November 24, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Steve Z on November 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM

I’ve been hearing generalizations on the radio today..nothing specific other than 2/3 of the recount was completed…Colman still had the lead….

You, and your post, ROCK!!

BigWyo on November 24, 2008 at 8:09 PM

These recounts are a waste of time and money, When an elections close enough to require a recount, we should just flip a coin with all due ceremony, and be civilized about the result. Why do we sacralize the difference of a handful of votes in a million vote election?

If you could weight it by the imbalance relative to the margin of error, I might support it. Say 100 balls, red and black red and blue, representing the difference as a fraction of the threshold. Equal size, equal weight, same surface treatment, in a clear drum. Each candidate gets to spin it as much as he likes, clockwise. Then a mechanism spins it, slows it, and reverses the spin, and the first ball to pop out of a canted opening determines the winner.

But in this case, how can you think of using random chance when it might select someone like Al Franken? I’d rather have a delusional, temper-tantrum prone four-year-old in Congress than Franken. Franken is slick enough to convince others of his fantasies/lies/call-them-what-you-will, with hideous effect. (His affect is pretty spooky, too.)

njcommuter on November 24, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Looks like I called this one correctly the other day. What are the odds this character ever thought he’d be ‘famous’ (or at least, what passes for fame these days)?

RD on November 24, 2008 at 8:18 PM

franken is a lizard, we might have to count that vote for him.

rob verdi on November 24, 2008 at 8:23 PM

I just wanted to know if Lizard People was plural, or a potential Senator People, first name Lizard. I thought I’d never know, but he says it’s plural. I feel good.

Hahahahaha!

Alana on November 24, 2008 at 8:24 PM

I must be in the distinct minority in this thread. As an election judge supervisor… I want the punk fined. People die to give everyone a privilege to vote and his “joke” isn’t appreciated at all.

MNDavenotPC on November 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Prepare to have my stereotypes shattered? I pictured a white guy with goatee in my freshman English class, with a tee shirt that said “throw away your television.” I wasn’t that far off.

Oh, I get it…that IS the stereotype. Meh.

fireweednectar on November 24, 2008 at 8:31 PM

I want the punk fined. People die to give everyone a privilege to vote and his “joke” isn’t appreciated at all.

Yeah, no kidding. The self-centered troll was probably hoping they’d talk about it on the news.

fireweednectar on November 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Finally: Guy who wrote in “Lizard People” on Coleman-Franken ballot comes forward

How many lizards does it take to make one Al Franken???

byteshredder on November 24, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Was it tossed prior to his coming forward? I would think the very fact that he’s come forward as the “Lizard People” voter turns “Lizard People” into a distinguishing mark, invalidating the whole ballot.

DaveO on November 24, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Good news from Politico, though: The recount melodrama could drag on for another month, with Franken favored to eke out a victory thanks to the fact that so many Democratic voters are “free-spirited,” i.e. stupid.

C’mon, it takes time to steal an election. /sarc

You steal 1,000 votes all at once and someone might notice. You steal a couple hundred here and there, and after a few weeks, you’re going to Washington.

91Veteran on November 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM

It never ends,what did ACORN promise the ‘lizard people’
for voting for the ‘ONE,frogs and snakes? (Snark!)Haha.

canopfor on November 24, 2008 at 7:43 PM

Government subsidized tanning beds to help warm up in the morning like coffee for us humans.

Sapwolf on November 24, 2008 at 9:37 PM

I must be in the distinct minority in this thread. As an election judge supervisor… I want the punk fined. People die to give everyone a privilege to vote and his “joke” isn’t appreciated at all.

MNDavenotPC on November 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM

A vote for Franken is even stupider than a vote for Lizard People. Should we fine everyone who voted the Democratic ticket?

hicsuget on November 24, 2008 at 9:41 PM

When an elections close enough to require a recount, we should just flip a coin with all due ceremony, and be civilized about the result. Why do we sacralize the difference of a handful of votes in a million vote election?

CK MacLeod on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM

I prefer pistols at 20 paces.

91Veteran on November 24, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Prepare to have your stereotypes shattered

Shattered? No. Confirmed? Yes.

I figured it was a Maynard G. Krebs type.

Helloyawl on November 24, 2008 at 9:51 PM

I want the punk fined. People die to give everyone a privilege to vote and his “joke” isn’t appreciated at all.

MNDavenotPC on November 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Fined and Community service, teaching a 1 hour class every day for a week to High Schoolers on why voting is such a privilege and so important.

…as if anyone needs that lesson after 2000.

91Veteran on November 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Why does it not bother anyone that Al Franken is stealing this election??

Like who? John “Obama is a wonderful person” McCain? The GOP is dead.

angryed on November 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM

hicsuget

you wouldn’t get an argument from me. I am totally astounded at the stupidity of those who voted for Franken. Is BDS so pervasive?… Good Lord!

MNDavenotPC on November 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM

It would have been better if he did it in such a way that the change looked like it was perpetrated by the Lizard People.

MirCat on November 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

All this stuff counts because, as John Kenneth Galbraith said in response to von Bismarck’s “Politics is the art of the possible”, “Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable.”

What that means, in simple terms, is that anybody who didn’t vote for McCain and Coleman voted for 0bama and Franken. End of story. The endless hairsplitting ignores the simple reality that this time the choice was between the unpalatable and the disastrous. The self-indulgence of the navel-gazers allowed gangsters to steal our Presidency.

Other threads on this site are still nattering about how “unfair the media coverage was”, and how “we’ll never listen to them again.” Difficult as it is to accept, those smirky little snots with the “Kill Your Television” t-shirts are right. If you even waste the breath to complain about the crap that is, and has always been, on television, you’re just playing with yourself.

The election’s over. We lost, and the thugs that won don’t care that we’re indignant about it. Everybody better just pay attention to the fact that we’re in a war here. Feeling like you won something because Allan Colmes quit is the act of a child, and plays right into the hands of the hard left.

warbaby on November 24, 2008 at 10:32 PM

When an elections close enough to require a recount, we should just flip a coin with all due ceremony, and be civilized about the result. Why do we sacralize the difference of a handful of votes in a million vote election?

CK MacLeod on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM

I prefer pistols at 20 paces.

91Veteran on November 24, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Well – what if we institute my coin flip suggestion – but also bring back dueling?

Deal?

As for the other criticisms:

1) “every vote counts shame on me” (highhopes)

As far as anyone knows in my scenario, every vote WAS counted. Plus we’ve already seen that some ballots aren’t as equal as others, and don’t get counted for any range of reasons, good and bad and arguable. And anyway, would a Coleman victory mean that the Franken votes didn’t “count”?

2) “alternative complicated whole bunch of balls procedure” njcommuter

Nyah – keep it simple. A coin flip. And not one of those funky Obama coins. An Indian Head nickel maybe, or a Liberty Silver Half-Dollar.

http://www.luckyfinder1.com/image/walk06_1.jpg

We could give it to the loser along with other parting gifts and our sincere thanks.

As for putting Franken in, is he really so much more embarassing than Barbara Boxer or Robert Byrd, among others? The whole thing’s going to Hades. Having Franken up there would be a standing reminder that they’re a bunch of comedians, and that it’s past time (and getting even further past time) to get serious about the unfinished part of the Reagan Revolution, the part about shrinking the federal government down and getting it out of our lives.

CK MacLeod on November 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Wait a minute. How do we know this guy isn’t one of the lizard people? They’re trying to cover it up!

- The Cat

MirCat on November 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM

See? This is a side of conservatism that the libs and the MSM never get to see. There’s comedy-gold on this thread!

By the way, I went to the LP website and their platform is simple, straightforward, and can be summed-up in two words:

“warm rocks…”

CaptFlood on November 24, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Well, he’s pretty much exactly the kind who I thought would write in Lizard People.

Grafted on November 24, 2008 at 11:10 PM

I dunno if I want to take this at face value….

Anybody else read detective fiction? The “Prey” series by John Sandford? Set in the Twin Cities? With a main character named LUCAS DAVENPORT?

Just sayin’….

Lurking Vet on November 24, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Y’mean Dave Robicheaux didn’t really donate to 0′s campaign?

warbaby on November 24, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Y’mean Dave Robicheaux didn’t really donate to 0’s campaign?

No, and neither did Harry Bosch.

Lurking Vet on November 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Thank you, Lurking vet. I was going to say the same thing.

mikeyboss on November 25, 2008 at 12:00 AM

Hot Damn. And Jack Reacher don’t even write checks…

warbaby on November 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM

re: “The recount melodrama could drag on for another month, with Franken favored to eke out a victory thanks to the fact that so many Democratic voters are ‘free-spirited,’ i.e. stupid.”

.
Apparently, that is not a paraphrase, but a direct quote from an attorney :

“Democrats are [thought to be] more creative, free-spirited, so the idea is they’re more likely to make a mistake that the optical scan won’t pick up,” explains Hentges. “But when they recount the hard copy, those votes will be counted for Franken. If you talk to Republicans, they say it will be Franken’s advantage, because Democrats are stupid and will screw up ballots more often.”

adagioforstrings on November 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM

adagio

I bet they all believe that,too, y’know? It doesn’t take too much of a leap to believing different “cultures” shouldn’t be expected to obey the law, either. Jesus.

And you know what? Sadly, I imagine Samuel Barber was a liberal, too. But damn,that is the most stunning chord resolution.

warbaby on November 25, 2008 at 12:15 AM

Hmmm

“Lucas Davenport”

Are we sure that is this guys name??

“Lucas Davenport” is the name of John Sandford’s hero cop, based in Minnesota, in about 10-13 best selling novels (the “Prey” series)

strange coincidence if the guy is on the level

Son of Sam Kinison on November 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM

scratch that should of read all the way at bottom

still what a coinky dink

Son of Sam Kinison on November 25, 2008 at 12:47 AM

It never ends,what did ACORN promise the ‘lizard people’
for voting for the ‘ONE,frogs and snakes? (Snark!)Haha.

canopfor on November 24, 2008 at 7:43 PM

A cure for reptile disfunction!

Christian Conservative on November 25, 2008 at 12:58 AM

Lurking Vet on November 24, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Son of Sam Kinison on November 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Yeah, I picked up on that. If this guy thinks its funny to write in goofy names, why not take an alias for himself?

cjs1943 on November 25, 2008 at 1:56 AM

What’s wrong with wanting Minnesota to be represented in the US Senate by LGF members?

Bartrams Garden on November 25, 2008 at 4:05 AM

Got a way to go before you reach the Jedi phenonmenon.

saint on November 25, 2008 at 6:09 AM

Got a way to go before you reach the Jedi phenonmenon.

saint on November 25, 2008 at 6:09 AM

I never knew…unbelievable…I can imagine the pastor in a Jedi robe, with a plastic light saber by his side.
P: May the force be with you
C: And also with you

right2bright on November 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM

It would have been better if he did it in such a way that the change looked like it was perpetrated by the Lizard People.

MirCat on November 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Heh, you’re right MirCat…Jim Morrison is the LIZARD KING of the LIZARD PEOPLE!!

Long live the Lizard King!

Liberty or Death on November 25, 2008 at 9:54 AM

Moon… bat!

BKennedy on November 25, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Does anyone know FOR CERTAIN (I’ve seen implications in both directions) whether the “challenged ballots” are counted but over-turnable, or will only be counted after the challenge is adjudicated?

If they are counted, but have the potential to be overturned, I see an advantage for the team that has challenged the most; if they are not counted until challenges decided, there would be an advantage for the team that has challenged the least.

So, anybody know FOR SURE?

RegularJoe on November 25, 2008 at 10:39 AM