New Hillary twist: She can’t make up her mind on State; Update: Yes, finally
posted at 3:00 pm on November 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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All the more reason to demand her appointment. With the sole exception of the ‘Cuda, she’s the only inexhaustible supply of blogworthy drama on the political landscape. Four years of Hot Air content hang in the balance. She must accept.
And if you believe Politico and WaPo, that’s exactly what she’ll do. Why? For that, we turn to the NYT:
One friend said Mrs. Clinton decided late Wednesday to say no, reasoning that she would have more freedom in the Senate. By midday Thursday, the friend said, she was “back in the indecisive column again.” By the end of the day, another associate said she could accept by Friday…
[D]riving her consideration, friends said, is a sense of disenchantment with the Senate, where despite her stature she remains low in the ranks of seniority that governs the body. She was particularly upset, they said, at the reception she felt she received when she returned from the campaign after collecting 18 million votes and almost becoming the first woman nominated for president by a major party.
“Her experience in the Senate with some of her colleagues has not been the easiest time for her,” said one longtime friend who insisted on anonymity in exchange for sharing Mrs. Clinton’s sentiments. “She’s still a very junior senator. She doesn’t have a committee. And she’s had some disappointing times with her colleagues.”
In particular, the friend said, Mrs. Clinton was upset when the leadership rejected the possibility of her heading a special new task force with a staff and a mandate to develop legislation expanding health care coverage.
Yeah, I think this is the grand hole in the conventional wisdom that the Senate has more to offer her than does carrying water for The One. Because she’s such an outsized national figure, we tend to assume that that translates into outsized influence legislatively. Tain’t so. If it was, they wouldn’t be straining to come up with symbolic honors for her that carry little real power. If she got to play quarterback on the health-care bill she’d probably stay, but Teddy’s decided he’s going to play quarterback. In which case, whom would you rather take a handoff from — Kennedy, as just one member of a larger team, or the president, to command the entire country’s foreign policy? In fact, I wonder if there’s not something deliberate going on in freezing her out from more influential Senate positions. All the same concerns about her overshadowing Obama or otherwise complicating his job in the cabinet are also true vis-a-vis Senators more senior to her. If you’re a committee chairman with her on the bench, why not stave her off and hope that it makes her more inclined to get vacuumed up into the cabinet? She’s Obama’s problem now, not Teddy’s.
The real question is what she does once she leaves State, which she’ll inevitably do before The One’s time in office ends. Run for governor of New York? Replace Billy Jeff as chairman of the Clinton Global Initiative? Accept formal investiture as feminist pope?
Update: The drama ends — for the time being. No shady Guardian scoop this time; the Times claims she’ll accept. Good luck, Barry.
“She’s ready,” said the confidant. Mrs. Clinton was reassured after talking again with Mr. Obama because their first meeting in Chicago last week “was so general,” the confidant said. The purpose of the follow-up talk, he added, was not to extract particular concessions but “just getting comfortable” with the idea of working together.
A second Clinton associate confirmed that her camp believes they have a done deal. Senior Obama advisers said Friday morning that the offer had not been formally accepted and no announcement will be made until after Thanksgiving. But they said they were convinced that the nascent alliance was now ready to be sealed.
What does “just getting comfortable” mean?
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Apparently it boils down to whether she could still wear pantsuits or if she’d have to reveal her calves, the envy of stevedores everywhere.
AubieJon on November 21, 2008 at 3:03 PM
MUHAHAHAHAHA
conservative blogs and talk radio salivate at the prospect of 4years of infighting as the US economy collapses around us
lodge on November 21, 2008 at 3:03 PM
the fillet knives must be sharp
lorien1973 on November 21, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Advantage, Hillary.
R
williars on November 21, 2008 at 3:05 PM
the real question is: how many senators does it take to run the executive branch?
lorien1973 on November 21, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Thing is, by accepting that position, she kills her chances of ever running for President again.
JetBoy on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Operation Chaos lives.
CP on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
It will look good on her resume.
Please tell me why I’m wrong for feeling almost “relieved” that she’ll be Secretary of State. I’m serious. Now if McCain had won, of course I’d be having a heart attack if she got the nod, but you know… since we’re stuck with the DEMS.
Why am I wrong?
Oink on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
But the Sec. of State is such a great stepping stone to teh Oval Office! Oh, wait…
jacrews on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Half of my is glad Obama won. This is going to be a lot more fun than fighting McCain on amnesty, and global warming, and ‘wall street greed’, and…
BadgerHawk on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Oh! Excellent point.
Oink on November 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Alert White House secruity,all sharp and pointy things
to be removed in every room,and nail down all chairs!
Ashtrays and lamps are to be issued on a need basis
and accompanied by a trained body reading,secruity
guard in the case Hilrod throws a temper tantrum!!
(Sarc.)haha.
canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM
From the NYT quotes, it certainly appears that way.
I would guess there’s been a lot of jealousy simmering with the egos in the Senate ever since she was elected in 2000 and immediately jumped into the spotlight. There’s probably been machinations.
INC on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
How long is it going to take him to say, “You know Hillary, she likes to engage in rhetorical flourishes”.
And which country will he have to apologize to first?
sherry on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
I’m not sure if the timing is right for Gov. of NY, although I agree that life in the Senate doesn’t seem like something she’d want to endure much longer. The next election for NY Governor is 2012… but I think she might challenge Obama then.
Isn’t Hillary getting a bit long in the tooth? Hillary would be 69 in 2016. If she runs again for POTUS, I think it would be in 2012… assuming Obama has presided over a weak economy and increasingly unpopular social changes during which time he manages to alienate both his left-wing “base” and turned off the “moderates” who voted for him this time.
Y-not on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
This won’t matter that much in terms of soap opera until the first foreign policy crisis, where both the Clinton and Obama camps will either be running to grab the credit first for taking action, or working like the dickens to be the first to point the blame at the other side if things really go wrong.
jon1979 on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Best comment of the day.
txsurveyor on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
China dollars following China dollars.
Limerick on November 21, 2008 at 3:09 PM
So has she forgiven him for flipping her off?
Harpoon on November 21, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Now you’re catching on, young man.
“…keep your enemies closer…”
kingsjester on November 21, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Hannity is playing Helen Reddings,’I Am Women’,
on Hillarys acceptance of Secretary of State!haha:)
canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 3:10 PM
LOL! Go Rush!
I am giddy because Hillary is away from my neighbor state NY and Hopefully Giuliani will run!
This will be a comical administration: Bill & Hillary versus Obama!
jencab on November 21, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Whose going to replace her in the Senate? I actually like this idea. Considering how awful the last 3 Secretaries have actually been in practice, she couldn’t be any worse. It probably will be rather entertaining, and I can’t wait for the photo ops with her sipping wine with Mahmoud and Kim Jong-Il.
Sultry Beauty on November 21, 2008 at 3:11 PM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Wasn’t she the one that said she would serve the term that the people elected her to???????
Typ Clinton BullS—.
All for them screw us.
Rick007 on November 21, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Obama is about to know what it’s like to swallow razor blades now.
faraway on November 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM
The Repubes better tear Billy Jeff’s foreign donators out into the light.
Gawd, Repubes are p**sies.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Why is it inevitable that she’ll leave the Sec. of State post before the One’s time in office ends, Allah?
MedSchoolCatholic on November 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM
So when does Bill Clinton arrive in the countries the new Secretary of State will visit? Before or After?
Look for the Clinton net worth to easily double by the end of Obama’s administration.
danking70 on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
If hillary is Sec of State, how many people does she have to murder, I mean, commit suicide, in order to become president?
HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
HMMMM
Hillary and the first Negro first lady. LOL let the fur fly.
After all Bill was the first Black Pres.
Rick007 on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
What now, Senator Andrew “Evil Eyes” Cuomo?
JammieWearingFool on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Well here it is…… the tail wagging the dog!!!!
grapeknutz on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Since Hillary has exactly zero foreign affairs experience how long ’til the media goes Palin on her?
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Obama 2010 – “That’s not the Hillary I knew”
Firebird on November 21, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Fox News just said Bill Richardson will be Commerce Secretary.
SoulGlo on November 21, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Rush said earlier on his program that this is a perfect spot for Hillary to undermine the little squirrel. Just like they did to Bush from that same department.
Mercy4Me on November 21, 2008 at 3:15 PM
She’s as unqualified to be Secretary of State as she was to be a presidential candidate. She’s a two-faced lawyer from Arkansas who married an adulterer to get ahead in life. She spent eight years in the White House pretending her man was behaving himself, then acted surprised when everyone in the world told her he was playing hide the cigar with Monica.
In other words, she’s what all Democrats admire, respect and hope to be someday.
fogw on November 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Dear Barack Obama:
Watch your back.
Sincerely,
~Vince Foster
BKennedy on November 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Cankles will be fun to watch during the senate confirmation.Obama is more of an idiot than I thought. Good, the whole S.S. LIB will sink with all of them on it.
texaninfidel on November 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM
CHANGE!
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Now if they can just get Bill elected to Secretary General of the U.N……………..
Limerick on November 21, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Geez, take the fricking job already you bloated, old hag…
Play fetch for the “empty suit”, and STFU!
America is screwed either way, but she IS better then Kerry.
Mark Garnett on November 21, 2008 at 3:17 PM
I see why Obama wants her there. She would fight him in the Senate. She will be invisible as SecState.
But, I don’t see any advantage for Hillary. Someone help me out here.
faraway on November 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Cigars and Monica’s for all!
Kini on November 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I bet Dinnerjacket is freaking out over this
new developement!!
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On a side note:
Its Friday,and typical Clinton News release!
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!
canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Well, per the order of succession, four people would have to have some sort of “accident” or “inability to serve” (Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Byrd). Although, if she talks Joe Biden and The Big O into thinking she really would be a better VP than him, then it’d be down to one.
CP on November 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Breaking…
Obama to name Bill Clinton President-Elect to finish off process
joey24007 on November 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Great.
Now, can we send the inexperienced (no, Shrillary has still accomplished nothing in her career, and certainly nothing related to carrying US foreign policy) loser to Somalia to start negotiating with … whomever?
progressoverpeace on November 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM
BREAKING: GEITHNER FOR TREASURY!
lodge on November 21, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I am a little relieved, she is no dove when it comes to foreign policy. Its going to come to pass the her and Obama lock horns on issues such as Iran or Israel.
I cannot see her accepting being sent to Tehran to kneel at the feet of the mullahs without some Clintonistas leaking things to the press.
broker1 on November 21, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Pelosi is pissed that she’s not the only obnoxious broad on the political scene.
marklmail on November 21, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Please! Would you get rid of that Hillary Clinton picture. Whatever you do…don’t scratch and sniff!!! (UGH) God Help us all
DJ from MA on November 21, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I hope the State Department is taking a decent inventory of the Secretary’s official residence. It might come in handy in four years, or so.
Limerick on November 21, 2008 at 3:21 PM
What happened to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
faraway on November 21, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Absolutely! Advantage Barry
Longhorn Six on November 21, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I think the advantage is Obama’s. He can fire her at will and get rid of her in both his cabinet and the senate. She’s a fool for trusting the man that issues statements and promises with expiration dates stamped on them.
Sue on November 21, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Must say, I’m underwhelmed by her decisiveness.
Dee2008 on November 21, 2008 at 3:22 PM
And the Democrats string of appointing unattractive women to be Sec’y of State remains in tact.
Just A Grunt on November 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Cigars and Monica for all!
Kini on Nov 21,2008 at 3:19PM.
Kini: Thanks alot Kini,I’m eating Cheerios cereal!
Now I’ll clean my key board,—again!
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And,in the words of Rev.Wright,your riding NASTY on that
comment,hahahaha:):)
canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Hey, moveon.org… sit the f*ck down. Thanks.
Shark Sandwich on November 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Hail Hail, the gang’s all here.
Be prepared to be overrun by illegals, have the IQ of a box of rocks, and poor….uh, wait. At least 52 million have already heeded Bloated Bill’s call.
HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM
**** They were warned !!!
Mark Garnett on November 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM
It is a big plus for The One. Now when Billary gets on his nerves, it will be time for a 2 week trip to visit some tiny African
countryvillage for a diplomatic visit. Problem solved.Mo_mac on November 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Riding dirty, with a cigar in my “mouth”. Hells bells, I’ll NEVER look at my husband’s humidor the same way again.
HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Obama is such a newbie.
FireBlogger on November 21, 2008 at 3:26 PM
There’s no way Hillary is the Dem nominee in 2012. If Obama is THAT big of a disaster as President, then who in their right mind would wanna take his place on the ballot? The GOP could run “Lizard People” and win that election.
I do agree that she’ll be too old by 2016. 68 years old isn’t ancient mind you(Reagan entered his first term at age 69), but fairly or unfairly, there’s a different standard for women. And no one will want a female senior citizen as President.
Her chances at the Oval Office ended when Obama took(or stole if you’re a PUMA) the nomination from her. A prominent position in his cabinet is the best she’ll get at this point.
Doughboy on November 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Maybe that’s why Obama is having everyone fill out the paranoid questionnaire. Hide the guns and rat poison. Obama is going to need an official “taster”.
HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM
So I wonder what Hillary will do to Nancy if she decides to go to Syria and visit her ophthalmologist without permission?
This will be fun for about 6 months, but when Obama/Hillary start going back on all of the agreements hammered out by Bush/Rice it is going to make for a lot of upset leaders in other countries.
Just A Grunt on November 21, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Yep. As soon as Hillary gets her itinerary for foriegn trips, Bill will have that little black book out setting up dates.
kingsjester on November 21, 2008 at 3:29 PM
CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forget the hype about McCain continuing Bush’s policies,
because,Hopey and the MSM have just extended the Clinton
Administration!
This should be called for what it really is,A CLINTON
PRESIDENTCY,PERIOD!
ALL HAIL HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Despite her stature?
Her stature as Mrs Bill Clinton ?
I guess if BHO turns serial horndog Hillary can help him with the Mrs….
DeweyWins on November 21, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I am in the minority – I think Hillary may be a good pick.
She’s a bitch – and after Sec. Rice (who is way too nice) we need a bitch.
No offense intended – I mean to use that word as a verb of personal strength. Like “he’s a bastard”.
No one is going to walk over Hillary – I don’t think.
jake-the-goose on November 21, 2008 at 3:30 PM
This just in: Bill Ayers to head Homeland Security.
Film at 11.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Yeah, so after all that infighting amongst the Democrats…and the emergence of the PUMA’s…And chants of hopeandchange…They nominate, and the country elects, Obama…who’s seemingly bringing back the Clinton administration.
Makes no sense.
JetBoy on November 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM
I guess with only a couple of years in Washington, BO did’t meet enough people to be able to assemble a cabinet of his own. So he’s picking up all the old Clinton folks and rearranging them a bit to try and fool us into thinking he’s not just copying Bubba’s picks. It’s pathetic really.
Dee2008 on November 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM
The change was a third Klinton administration??!!
Are the kos kiddies glued to their bongs??
ROFL!
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM
So much for change
Jamson64 on November 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Re: whether this is Advantage: Obama or Advantage: Hillary, keep these things in mind….the Clintons do whatever they want and are generally subordinate to no one; they will remain highly visible and influential; they are masters of manipulation; never underestimate the power of the leak and/or the preemptive press conference. Remember Hillary’s campaign spoof of The Sopranos? I didn’t consider it much of a spoof.
CP on November 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Billy Jeff just spotted with a pup tent.
Carry on.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Beating each other senseless with pugil sticks.
Tanya on November 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM
HornetSting,
Does that mean you can get a new Gov.?
thomasaur on November 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Here … view this to get rid of mental image of Hillary
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/Joey24007/Palin.jpg
joey24007 on November 21, 2008 at 3:33 PM
First Presidential Press Conference. First Answer.
“Uuhh…I’ll have to get back to you on that.”
kingsjester on November 21, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Yes! It looks like my investment in popcorn futures will have paid off. Still, if there’s any of that bailout money lying around, well I’m not too proud.
rbj on November 21, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Odd. Odd. Odd.
The Clintons brnig with them drama, and it’s a matter of – oh -days, before we start hearing stories about conflict between Obama and Hillary forces.
I have no idea why he would want to give her that post, unless he thinks he’s going to eff up so badly, that he will face a contested nomination battle in four years.
YYZ on November 21, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Icing on the cake would be Monica submitting an intern app. Although with Barry, might need to be a Michael. NTTAWWT.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:34 PM
If it’s only the calves, I’ll rest easy.
I’m scared of the cottage cheese.
fred5678 on November 21, 2008 at 3:34 PM
PRESENT!
rofl…..let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Yes. But, there is still that idiot beacon that makes people vote for waste of air democrats. I don’t have hope that these morons can make a decent decision.
HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Is it possible the Senate dems foisted her off on OB in exchange for….something?
Dee2008 on November 21, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Hillary is not fireable. No way every. Like I read in an article, it might have been here, you never hire someone you cant fire.
The backlash would be palatable if he fired her. Hillary has more job security than Joe Biden does.
broker1 on November 21, 2008 at 3:36 PM
She’ll be what, three/four heart beats from the Oval office?
I think if I was Biden, Pelosi and/or Byrd, I’d turn down any dinner invitations!!!
E9RET on November 21, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I am surprised, but what the hell everyone else from the Clinton admin is there. So Clinton people hold the levers of power, Obama people run the pr aspect, and Obama does what exactly?
rob verdi on November 21, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I hear he talks real good.
Dee2008 on November 21, 2008 at 3:38 PM
The Parthian Shot of Operation Chaos.
Eh, as least its not Kerry.
BohicaTwentyTwo on November 21, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Obama’s Daily Things To Do List
1. Stay away from Ft Marcy Park.
2.
3.
4.
TugboatPhil on November 21, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Right! The only people he does know are from Chicago, and, well, he may have a problem with almost all of his Chicago friends. Even the NYT might object to a certain Univ. of Chicago professor heading up the Dept. of Ed.
fred5678 on November 21, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Exactly. Change indeed. At least it’s not John Kerry.
scalleywag on November 21, 2008 at 3:40 PM
The only reason it is the third Clinton administation is because most of the Carter people are dead now.
DeweyWins on November 21, 2008 at 3:41 PM
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