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Liberal messiah sending his daughters to ritzy private school

posted at 8:32 pm on November 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Michelle believes very strongly in the value of public education, mind you. Just not for her kids.

Lelyveld said that while public schools were considered, the Obamas felt that a private school was in the best interest of their children. The two girls currently attend the private University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, where Michelle Obama is on the board.

Michelle Obama went to public schools on Chicago’s South Side, and undestands the importance of strong public schools, Lelyveld said, and the administration plans to work hard on that issue…

The quality of the school and its extra security make Sidwell Friends a good choice, said Letitia Baldrige, who was Jackie Kennedy’s social secretary and chief of staff during the Kennedy administration. Caroline Kennedy attended first grade in a makeshift third-floor classroom inside the White House.

I’d say something snarky but I’ve been informed by my betters that it’s wrong to criticize The One for hypocrisy on this point because, and I quote, “none of us knows what it’s like to be a president of the United States of America or a president-elect.” There’s video at the link; do bear it in mind the next time you get the urge to object to anything he says or does.

Chelsea Clinton went to this same school, incidentally, which is perfectly in keeping with the blueprint Obama’s followed thus far. Here’s an actual e-card I sent to our favorite liberal a few days ago. Share it with a Democrat you love.


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No worries.

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM

No worries.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM

What’s that they say about great minds…?

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM

No worries. I knew you’d come around, knowing how tough you fight, and how savvy you are. We’re with you, Tzetzes, self, and so many others. These are treacherous times. We know whom you were “stinging” ahead of the election. Sting on. Lots of plankton in the other bank. It dilutes our children, and as such our country.

p.s. if you play the violin, I admire you. I had no opportunity to play any instruments, but regret it.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Just a bit trigger happy. That’s all. As far as the violin, gave it up. Thought it was torture…regret it, just like my parents said I would. But, I can play a mean clarinet and march in a straight line…
Guess the marching will come in handy when dear leader starts requiring the dancing monkey routine like Kim Jong Ill.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Just remember Tzetzes that poor minds go under together; just look at our political adversaries. They’ll destroy us all. We must rebuild before it’s too late for the children.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM

I’m shocked! The DC schools have always been run by Dems and union teachers, so they should be much better than a capitalist, republican, clinging religious school?

What am I missing?

And the security argument is bogus: again, DC has been run by Dems forever so it must be secure. As the illustrious DC Mayor Marion (”the Bitch Set me Up”) Barry said, the crime rate in DC isn’t bad if you discount the murders.

Where is the CHANGE????????????????

Dingbat63 on November 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM

No worries.

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM
No worries.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM
What’s that they say about great minds…?

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Alright now, don’t ask, don’t tell is on the OTHER thread.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Hornet, clarinet is just as good. Any instrument is good, really. I hope you never have to march for the One.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Did anyone seriously think that they would attend public school in D.C.? Even Obama isn’t that stupid. Anyone would do the same if they were in his position. As much as I enjoy slamming Obama, this is a non-issue.

ConservativePenguin on November 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM

You’ve got it partially right; people really didn’t think he would send his kids to the public school system. Thanks to the policies of his party and their NEA supporters, the D.C. public school system has gotten much worse than when Amy Carter attended.

However (comma) what we do find abhorrent and a real issue here is his policy position that others should not enjoy the same choice through the use of vouchers or other mechanisms such as tax relief to allow *their* children to opt out of a failing public school system. The issue is not so much that his kids are going to private schools but that his policies will make it more difficult for others to do so.

This ripples through to his other policy ideas as well. In all cases, he supports more state control and less personal choice [for us]. As a thought exercise, apply the same reasoning that is being applied to his childrens’ educational choice as he is wanting to apply to nationalized health care.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Aside from DC, how do states decide if they will have Voucher programs? Is it on a state by state basis, or does each school district have that choice? My guess, is that it is by state; does anyone know?

Red State State of Mind on November 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM

I believe it’s state by state. Some folks in Utah tried to get a voucher program initiative passed in 2007 (PDF), the teacher’s unions poured millions into Utah and got it defeated.

The program wouldn’t have cost the government schools a penny. The voucher money would have come from the general budget, not the education budget.

In fact, the government schools that the voucher kids transfered out of would still have gotten money (not all, but some) for the kid for five years after the kid left. They would have been being paid for kids who didn’t even attend their schools!

The #1 argument voucher-haters have is that vouchers take money from government schools, but this would have actually increased the amount of money the schools would have gotten per pupil.

The Government Schools cannot be allowed to have competition. It really doesn’t matter how many kids get hurt.

29Victor on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Tzetzes:
So what?
Jayne Mansfield, Eli Wallach and Farah Fawcett all went to MY alma mater!

TexasJew on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

The issue is not so much that his kids are going to private schools but that his policies will make it more difficult for others to do so.

This ripples through to his other policy ideas as well. In all cases, he supports more state control and less personal choice [for us]. As a thought exercise, apply the same reasoning that is being applied to his childrens’ educational choice as he is wanting to apply to nationalized health care.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

That’s the Left for you.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Welcome back. It’s safe to go in the water again.

So what’s it been ….. busy, meditating or in therapy?

fogw on November 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Hornet, Hornet, yer stingers are heading in the wrong direction, again. Tzetzes can tell you a thing, or two about his gorgeous European girlfriend/maybe wife by now.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Hornet, clarinet is just as good. Any instrument is good, really. I hope you never have to march for the One.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I only march AGAINST the one. With pitchfork and torch.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Hornet, Hornet, yer stingers are heading in the wrong direction, again. Tzetzes can tell you a thing, or two about his gorgeous European girlfriend/maybe wife by now.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM

lol.
You should always “buy” American.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

So what’s it been ….. busy, meditating or in therapy?

fogw on November 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM

E and O are not compatible.

p.s. missed you too.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Well! I’ve often seen a hypocrite who wasn’t a politician, but a politician who wasn’t a hypocrite. It would be the most curious thing I ever saw in my life.

Cheshire Cat on November 21, 2008 at 9:48 PM

He has deplored school vouchers that would allow families to use the education taxes they pay to choose the schools their children will attend yet advocates raising taxes that will make it harder for those families to pay both education taxes for schools they will not use and still pay for private school.

This point needs to be hammered home. These taxes are OUR money, not the government’s. We should have the option to send our kids to a school of our choice.

Red State State of Mind on November 21, 2008 at 9:49 PM

p.s. missed you too.

Entelechy on nov 21,2008 at 9:47PM.

Entelechy: Good evening Entelechy,missed you as well!:)

canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 9:50 PM

canopfor, you are still our nice friend from Canada. Don’t give up, yet. The foundation cracked, but it didn’t crumble, yet.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Nobody blames them for wanting to send their children to a private school. What they are blamed for is keeping everyone of less means from doing the same. It is not just hypocritical. It is downright nasty to stand in the way of educational freedom and force people to accept what the Public school system offers.

America1st on November 21, 2008 at 9:52 PM

What is that guy?

Spirit of 1776 on Nov.21,2008 at 8:45PM.

Spirit of 1776: Maybe it’s Sweeney Todd!Haha:)

canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Most homeschool moms do all that stuff on their own and teach.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Yep. Yep. Yep.

Sorry your comments offended Chewy the Lab. It’s amazing what happens to some conservatives when you suggest that they give up their government-sponsored babysitter.

In a previous comment she confessed that she was better at teaching her kid than the government schools, but she sent him back because him getting a bad education is apparently not as bad as her having to spend the day with him. (I know this sounds brutal and harsh, but it’s what she said on November 21, 2008 at 9:17 PM).

And I’m afraid that too many Americans feel the same as Chewy the Lab

29Victor on November 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM

E and O are not compatible.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

The battle wages. We need all the troops we can muster and incompatibility is our battle cry.

Join the fun, The One’s becoming an ever so easy target.

fogw on November 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM

You should always “buy” American.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Love is truly universal, and shouldn’t be “bought”.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM

Jayne Mansfield, Eli Wallach and Farah Fawcett all went to MY alma mater!

TexasJew on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Ha, not bad, esp. the two babes!

By the way, TJ, I have a friend at UT-Austin doing Classics, where they have quite a renowned department (apparently one of the best places after Cambridge for doing Linear B). I should point out that my disastrous experience with the UT system was UT-Arlington, which (I came to figure out) is something of the Danny DeVito to UT-Austin’s Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ve still never been to your great state and I didn’t realize it when I signed up for the classes.

But let that awful Arlington department live in shame!

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Join the fun, The One’s becoming an ever so easy target.

fogw on November 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM

Once a cipher, always a cipher.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

America1st on November 21, 2008 at 9:52 PM

That’s it. Stated perfectly.

29Victor on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Jayne Mansfield, Eli Wallach and Farah Fawcett all went to MY alma mater!

TexasJew on November 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM

So? Jessie James, Billy the Kid, Frank Canton and Texas John Slaughter all went to mine.

Tuco on November 21, 2008 at 9:58 PM

What’s that they say about great minds…?

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Smallest packages, right?

OneGyT on November 21, 2008 at 10:01 PM

I don’t know why the Obama kids need to go to school, at all. Their parents are total idiots without any skills or knowledge and that hasn’t stopped them from getting affirmative action positions all over the place – all the way to the top. Why even bother with the charade of “education”?

progressoverpeace on November 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Tzetzes can tell you a thing, or two about his gorgeous European girlfriend/maybe wife by now.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM

You should always “buy” American.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Wife! Married in Leyden in May. Super-sexy Dutch girl. Two inches taller, eight years younger, much more intelligent and far better looking. (Who knew I had such mojo?)

I buy American when it and the foreign item are equal in price and quality, but I’m hardly a protectionist when I see a… um… superior product.

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM

The thing is that in the White House Michelle will have chefs, housekeeping staff, laundry service, etc., etc.

Most homeschool moms do all that stuff on their own and teach.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM

This kind of arguement is why we are losing the whole philisophical battle. It is a black/white (I don’t mean race)right/wrong/no grey area philosophyThere are plenty of real arguements agains Obamas politically,but do not, do not go after them because you disagree with the way they choose to educate their daughters.
When you address this issue, you sound petty,small, and frankly, exactly the stereotypical redneck model the left wants to paint you (us)as.
Gravitate to your principles, say, “Ya know, if it were me, I wouldn’t want my kids going to those crappy schools either. I’ll work like a dog to make them better, but I’m sending the girls elsewhere.”
Who can blame the Obama’s for that.
Get a grip!

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Join the fun, The One’s becoming an ever so easy target.

fogw on November 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM

Once a cipher, always a cipher.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Why, what on earth can you two possibly be talking about? David Brooks has messed himself, he’s so excited about the way the Age of Obama is going.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Once a cipher, always a cipher.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

A little ciphering here, a little ciphering there, pretty soon we are talking about some pretty heavy duty ciphering. And always remember, behind every little ciphering there’s a larger ciphering waiting for the little ciphering to get out of the way.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Well as I live and breathe. It’s the lovely Ms. E!

baldilocks on November 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM

There are plenty of real arguements agains Obamas politically,but do not, do not go after them because you disagree with the way they choose to educate their daughters.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM

This is a very real argument, as the Hussein family wants to not only force everyone else to go to public school, but wants us all to have to go to public health care and public everything else.

The way BHO treats his kids versus the way he wants to force everyone else to treat theirs is as real an argument as it gets.

progressoverpeace on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Don’t give up,yet.

Entelechy on Nov21,2008 at 9:51PM.

Entelechy: On America,or the political process,NEVER!

It just means,four years of fighting the
political good fight, of coniving trickery,
of the New Socialist Liberal Democratic Party!
:):):):)

canopfor on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

… I should point out that my disastrous experience with the UT system was UT-Arlington, which (I came to figure out) is something of the Danny DeVito to UT-Austin’s Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ve still never been to your great state and I didn’t realize it when I signed up for the classes.

But let that awful Arlington department live in shame!

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Hey now, I got my Masters in EE through UTA — the engineering department had a number of good people. One of my profs was responsible for development of one of the compression algorithms used for fax machines (Discrete Cosine Transform). So it’s not the whole school (or at least that was the case a number of years ago).

One interesting fact, when I took the GRE, the statistics given for scores by major had education majors dead last. Art majors scored higher. /no offense meant to art majors

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

One interesting fact, when I took the GRE, the statistics given for scores by major had education majors dead last. Art majors scored higher. /no offense meant to art majors

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

It’s been that way for many, many, many years. Intended education grad students are so awful (as a group) that their math scores are even lower than English graduates.

progressoverpeace on November 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM

David Brooks has messed himself, he’s so excited about the way the Age of Obama is going.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM

He must suffer the same steely feeling in his pants, without relief in sight, that Chris Matthews does.

baldi, I’m glad the world has you in it. I’d give up if it didn’t.

Entelechy on November 21, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Man, I wish I didn’t use my “Clinton’s Amerika” t-shirt as my paint shirt these last 8 years. All of those protest items at the time are probably worth something now.

nemo239 on November 21, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Hey now, I got my Masters in EE through UTA — the engineering department had a number of good people. One of my profs was responsible for development of one of the compression algorithms used for fax machines (Discrete Cosine Transform). So it’s not the whole school (or at least that was the case a number of years ago).

One interesting fact, when I took the GRE, the statistics given for scores by major had education majors dead last. Art majors scored higher. /no offense meant to art majors

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Well, perhaps it was just the awful, awful, awful Education Department. (Did you know they infomed us that it was against policy for us to speak ill of the program? Typical educationist attitude!) I’m sorry if I’ve been wrong about the university and that it’s just the idiots in Ed that reflect so poorly on it.

Perhaps if the public schools had fewer education majors teaching and more engineering grads…

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 10:13 PM

… There are plenty of real arguements agains Obamas politically,but do not, do not go after them because you disagree with the way they choose to educate their daughters.

Gravitate to your principles, say, “Ya know, if it were me, I wouldn’t want my kids going to those crappy schools either. I’ll work like a dog to make them better, but I’m sending the girls elsewhere.”
Who can blame the Obama’s for that.
Get a grip!

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Take that emphasized thought one step further and you get to the real point here. “I wouldn’t want my kids going to those crappy schools either, so why do the Obamas want to implement policies that will make it even harder for me to make the same choice they are making for their daughters?”

i.e., it’s not the choice, it’s the hypocrisy that they exhibit by working like a dog to deny *me* the same kind of choice that is so offensive

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Filthy hypocrisy… or a beginning to true school choice, one can only hope for change.

HotAirJosef on November 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Duh. No one in their right mind would send their bright kids to the public schools in Chicago or Washington, D.C., where liberal Democrats run the city, the police forces, the school system, the teachers unions, the maintenance workers unions.

It’s a recipe for how to mess up a kid’s future, or get them killed (correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that Chicago and D.C. have the nation’s worst murder rates, right?).

Nope; I don’t blame the (hypocrite liar) Obamas one little bit.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Well as I live and breathe. It’s the lovely Ms. E!

baldilocks on November 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Ain’t it?

Btw, anyone talk to Manly Rash? He’s got a new gig.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Wife! Married in Leyden in May. Super-sexy Dutch girl. Two inches taller, eight years younger, much more intelligent and far better looking. (Who knew I had such mojo?)

I buy American when it and the foreign item are equal in price and quality, but I’m hardly a protectionist when I see a… um… superior product.

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Oh, my American heart…congratulations.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Ain’t it?

Btw, anyone talk to Manly Rash? He’s got a new gig.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM

He should get his gig back here. Roger Waters got his keister kicked on election night. That is the “tool” that has robbed us of the ‘Rash.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Politics aside, remember that there are millions of people in the world that would be celebrating and throwing candy to kids if some splodeydope succeeded in killing those two kids.

I wouldn’t want them anywhere near Washington if I was President.
That said, yes, everyone should be able to make the same choice for their kids. His opposition to vouchers is contradictory.

redshirt on November 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Perhaps if the public schools had fewer education majors teaching and more engineering grads…

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 10:13 PM

… and history grads and math grads and english grads …

Not wanting to offend teachers or education grads, but it seems to me that a more rational system would have teachers with a major is some specific subject and a minor (or some minimum level of credits) in educational theory. As it is, it seems the emphasis is placed upon the process and not the background.
[I'm open to rebuttal and, ahem, education on this one]

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Man, I wish I didn’t use my “Clinton’s Amerika” t-shirt as my paint shirt these last 8 years. All of those protest items at the time are probably worth something now.

nemo239 on November 21, 2008 at 10:12 PM

I have a t-shirt with Bill and Hillary in a reversed role in “American Gothic”.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 10:25 PM

…it seems to me that a more rational system would have teachers with a major is some specific subject and a minor (or some minimum level of credits) in educational theory. As it is, it seems the emphasis is placed upon the process and not the background.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Amen! Amen! And Amen!

Tzetzes on November 21, 2008 at 10:28 PM

With the amount of money that DC public schools spends per student they should be able to afford a private bodyguard for every student.

btw, I spent 5 years in DC public schools. A complete cluster.

Let’s roll.

ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 10:30 PM

As it is, it seems the emphasis is placed upon the process and not the background.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Such is it with Insider Old Boy’s Networks “Modern Education”.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Is Chewy the Lab really Juan McCain? Loves attacking his own LOL.

Let’s roll.

ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 10:34 PM

One interesting fact, when I took the GRE, the statistics given for scores by major had education majors dead last. Art majors scored higher. /no offense meant to art majors

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Sadly, not surprised.

Spirit of 1776 on November 21, 2008 at 10:34 PM

The thing is that in the White House Michelle will have chefs, housekeeping staff, laundry service, etc., etc.

Most homeschool moms do all that stuff on their own and teach.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM

So, you are saying that if you were the president, and you had two young daughters, you’d send them to D.C. public schools?? I think (hope) not.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Btw, anyone talk to Manly Rash? He’s got a new gig.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Get your keisters signed up now.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 10:48 PM

i.e., it’s not the choice, it’s the hypocrisy that they exhibit by working like a dog to deny *me* the same kind of choice that is so offensive

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM

O.K., I get that part, I’m just saying you’re being very hypocritical in saying the public school system sucks and we need vouchers (agree with you btw), and then saying that the Obamas shouldn’t have the right to send their kids to private schools and PAY FOR THAT!! It’s not like we’re paying for those girls to go to Sidwell! Come’on, you’re speaking out of both sides of your mouth here.

I’m very lucky, am in an area with excellent public schools, and both my kids are out of high school and in college, but, dang it, if I believe that every parent has a right to chose where their kids go to school, and they can afford to send them to the private school of their choice, so be it.
As much as I abhor Obama’s policy as a whole, I don’t recall him ever saying you should send your kids to public schools even if you don’t want to. Nor do I find it inconsistant for Michelle to work for the public school system or the NEA while sending her kids to private schools. In fact, quite the contrary. And I will, will will work with all my might to make sure this administration is a single-termer.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 10:35 PM

That’s not what I was saying. You’ve misinterpreted me a couple of times. Go back and read my comments.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 10:51 PM

…it seems to me that a more rational system would have teachers with a major is some specific subject and a minor (or some minimum level of credits) in educational theory. As it is, it seems the emphasis is placed upon the process and not the background.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I’ve often thought this should be a requirement of journalists. There should only be a journalism minor, not a major.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 10:53 PM

The Rash has some good stuff going on… I received some info….And Hornet Sting, you are da bomb, and I agree Manly ought to at least make some cameo appearances back at this site…My wife and I have homeschooled my 3 daughters 25, 23, 20, for their entire grade school and high school. My 13 year old son continues to be homeschooled. We do it on a fraction of what government schools spend. Its typical BHO to be an elitist snob while paying lip service to government education in worst school district in the country.

CreationistConservativeWarrior on November 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Why is this even a story? It was breaking news here on WMAL. Like they were going to go anywhere else. He is lying through his teeth (again) when he said they considered a public school. Yeah right. Which one?

Dubn8tr on November 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Privatization FTW. See Stossel’s piece on this a few years ago.

malan89 on November 21, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Btw, anyone talk to Manly Rash? He’s got a new gig.

Jaibones on November 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Get your keisters signed up now.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 10:48 PM

I’m not sure if I want the Rash knowing my real name and email address, but I signed up. Hope I don’t get a rash.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 10:58 PM

He is lying through his teeth (again) when he said they considered a public school. Yeah right. Which one?

Dubn8tr on November 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM

They were considering the public school right next to the coach plane seats that the 3 Detroit CEO’s were considering.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2008 at 10:59 PM

He is lying through his teeth (again) when he said they considered a public school. Yeah right. Which one?

Dubn8tr on November 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM

William Ayer’s School of Victimization.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Hornet Sting,

That is what I am talking about….great line! Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the ONE!

CreationistConservativeWarrior on November 21, 2008 at 11:04 PM

I have to purge my stomach so I read The One’s campaign stuff. I am told that if you run over six or eight hours of reading it you can have a psychotic episode.

The One has promised a ‘world class’ education for every child. And a reasonably priced college education.

I have been attacked by libtards for sending my kids to private schools. Rotten remarks.

Is their any hope that they will turn on him?

IlikedAUH2O on November 21, 2008 at 11:07 PM

The Rash has some good stuff going on… I received some info….And Hornet Sting, you are da bomb, and I agree Manly ought to at least make some cameo appearances back at this site…My wife and I have homeschooled my 3 daughters 25, 23, 20, for their entire grade school and high school. My 13 year old son continues to be homeschooled. We do it on a fraction of what government schools spend. Its typical BHO to be an elitist snob while paying lip service to government education in worst school district in the country.

CreationistConservativeWarrior on November 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM

So, the Rash is going to be a competitor to HA. At least we will be able to obtain his wisdom from somewhere. Something has been missing since he abandoned his buddies at HA. I hope he gets that site running soon. We need it now that Fox is going the way of MSNBC, I’m afraid.
You are very brave to homeschool your children. I had two friends that were homeschooled after the 7th grade. They made it about 2 months before their mother gave up. They didn’t go back to school. They just stayed home. They both have geds, the girl is a baby factory, but the boy has made good. You sound like you made a go of it and succeeded so, congratulations.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:08 PM

That’s not what I was saying. You’ve misinterpreted me a couple of times. Go back and read my comments.

INC on November 21, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Thanks, I did, but what you seemed to be saying…and I know you weren’t, was that Michelle should be home schooling her kids, vaccuuming the West Wing, cooking up up a pot of the presidential dinner dejour, working on her pet project, writing her memoirs, etc, etc. Y’all gotta get a grip. We may disagree with them ideologically, in fact emphatically, but please, please don’t go over the edge and make them out to be evil incarnate….ok, evil, but not evil incarnate.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Ok, last sentence, their is there.

I am sorry.

Private schools helped The One be what he is. Why look at his prep transcripts, college transcripts, test scores…

Hey where are they? Don’t we have them?

IlikedAUH2O on November 21, 2008 at 11:11 PM

I’m not sure if I want the Rash knowing my real name and email address, but I signed up. Hope I don’t get a rash.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 10:58 PM

The rumour is the Man with the Rash is Cornish
A Rouge who’s now playing peek-a-boo
Were I to sign up, I’d feel rather skittish
That I might get a rash too
And as his purpose one can only guess
I would not care for him to know my identity nor my address

PercyB on November 21, 2008 at 11:12 PM

William Ayer’s School of Victimization.
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HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:02 PM

I had friends and family (and even my own parents) come through DC schools. Heck, I had a cousin who ran all the way home from one, and ended up living with us so he could go to a Maryland school. I wouldn’t wish that environment on anybody, but don’t pretend that was actually an option.

The Obamas are just the biggest insult to any sane person’s intelligence.

Dubn8tr on November 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM

The rumour is the Man with the Rash is Cornish
A Rouge who’s now playing peek-a-boo
Were I to sign up, I’d feel rather skittish
That I might get a rash too
And as his purpose one can only guess
I would not care for him to know my identity nor my address

PercyB on November 21, 2008 at 11:12 PM

Well, I signed up with real name and email address.
We’ll see what happens. If I wake up speckled and itching tomorrow, I’m gonna be really annoyed.
So, you think he is lurking around HA?

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Is Chewy the Lab really Juan McCain? Loves attacking his own LOL.

Let’s roll.

ex-Democrat on November 21, 2008 at 10:34 PM

You’ve either not been paying attention, or this is the first thread you’ve paid attention to in a while.
My intuition is to always, always step up and be positive, especially when my fellow conservatives get down in the dumps, but I also believe in being fair. I’ll support y’all 100% when you are right, but I believe bashing the Obamas for sending their kids to private schools is totally sour grapes. Sorry.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM

I too, signed up on the link to Manly’s new site. Can’t wait!

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I too, signed up on the link to Manly’s new site. Can’t wait!

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM

You too have been rashed.
Damn thing itches. Gotta get that 14 ingredient recipe for Manly’s medicated ointment.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Dearest Chewey,

I have spent time with people like The One and his lovely wife. Evil? No.

Worse, they are delusional and hateful. They don’t like this country much but they dislike people like us more. They think the power structure has attacked Vietnam and Iraq for nefarious reasons and they need to take property from the successful (esp.whites) and hand it out all over the world. They consider the courts overthrowing capitalism and similar moonbat dreams.

They will change this country eventually. He presently is clueless and knows it. Ergo, Clinton appointments.

Give them time, they will wreck what is still good in this country.

IlikedAUH2O on November 21, 2008 at 11:22 PM

So, you think he is lurking around HA?

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM

A lurking man with a rash, maybe mopping sweat upon his brow
Might it be this man with the rash of yours stands before you now?
It could be him!
It could be you!
Odd’s fish, it could be me!
That rashy scalawag could be most any sod

PercyB on November 21, 2008 at 11:30 PM

but I believe bashing the Obamas for sending their kids to private schools is totally sour grapes. Sorry.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM

They’re not being “bashed” for sending their kids to private schools; they’re being “bashed” for being such hypocrits.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 11:32 PM

O.K., I get that part, I’m just saying you’re being very hypocritical in saying the public school system sucks and we need vouchers (agree with you btw), and then saying that the Obamas shouldn’t have the right to send their kids to private schools and PAY FOR THAT!! It’s not like we’re paying for those girls to go to Sidwell! Come’on, you’re speaking out of both sides of your mouth here.

Nowhere did I say that they should not send their kids to private schools. What I did say was that the attitude of “private school for me and not for thee” is hypocritical to the extreme, in particular because the policies they have advocated and that The One himself supported and implemented both in his work with Ayers and as a legislator served to further worsen public schools. Those are real, legitimate issues and his decision to use a very pricey, elite private school further rubs the public’s nose in that fact. [BTW, Sidwell Friends, from what was reported during the Clinton years, is a *very* liberal school -- it churns out some pretty well indoctrinated leftist graduates]. There are lower priced private schools that could provide the same benefits (Lutheran parochial schools, Catholic parochial schools and others are quite reasonably priced and provide a very solid education). He could have taken the middle road and chosen a private school that wouldn’t have come across as so elitist.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 11:32 PM

So, you think he is lurking around HA?

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM
A lurking man with a rash, maybe mopping sweat upon his brow
Might it be this man with the rash of yours stands before you now?
It could be him!
It could be you!
Odd’s fish, it could be me!
That rashy scalawag could be most any sod

PercyB on November 21, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Alas, I think not.
You aren’t talking dirty to all of us conservative women.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Sorry your comments offended Chewy the Lab. It’s amazing what happens to some conservatives when you suggest that they give up their government-sponsored babysitter.

In a previous comment she confessed that she was better at teaching her kid than the government schools, but she sent him back because him getting a bad education is apparently not as bad as her having to spend the day with him. (I know this sounds brutal and harsh, but it’s what she said on November 21, 2008 at 9:17 PM).

And I’m afraid that too many Americans feel the same as Chewy the Lab

29Victor on November 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM

Boy oh boy, either I miscommunicated or you misunderstood. I’ll choose the former, and assume I did not articulate my point.
In my son’s senior year in high school, he was in a critical accident that, after a very long hospitalization and much reconstuctive surgery kept him in a wheelchair and housebound. This kid was bitter and angry about his situation and though the public school system we were in offered “some” help, it wasn’t anywhere up to my knowledge. (Learned a great deal about homeschool parents, it’s not something you just decide to do overnight, takes lots of homework/training). During the day, I helped him in and out of his wheelchair, tended to his hygenic and other needs, dealt with emotional outbursts, teenaged tantrums, etc. At night, I studied. I re-learned algebra, re-visited Shakespeare, learned for the first time stuff I’d never learned abaout European history, and became a lay teacher (no, you’re wrong in saying I said I did it better then they did, I said I think my kid learned more than he would have in the classroom, but so did I). I had to proctor tests, make him do assignments, yada yada…I am not whining. But my son, who was a C student before his accident ended up with a 3.5 that quarter (3 weeks missed) so I think I did a pretty good job.
No, I wasn’t “happy” as you say to hand him back to the school when he was able to go back, but I was relieved. They are the professionals, I got thrown into the frying pan.
I have nothing but respect for teachers, so your comments are very offensive to me, but I will take the responsibility that perhaps my wording of them made you misunderstand.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:37 PM

You aren’t talking dirty to all of us conservative women.

HornetSting on November 21, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Am I vulgarian or sleek?
Authoritarian or meek?
Some say I’m steely as you please
Others say I’m really Japanese
I may be shrewd, I may be lewd
Ah well, it’s hard to tell

PercyB on November 21, 2008 at 11:39 PM

He could have taken the middle road and chosen a private school that wouldn’t have come across as so elitist.

AZfederalist on November 21, 2008 at 11:32 PM
But, but, but…you’re all for vouchers, right?? (So am I btw). I’m just saying you’re really, really being hypocritical because they didn’t choose the school you think would have been the best choice. Let them educate their own kids. You wouldn’t want them chosing your kids schools, ok? Peace? Love? Hugs?

They’re not being “bashed” for sending their kids to private schools; they’re being “bashed” for being such hypocrits.

And, I really truly think your arguement is–in itself–hypocritical. Jeez, listen to yourself. Dang it, there’s plenty to argue with the Obamanation on merit. We don’t have to stoop to criticizing the way they chose to educate their kids.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Chewy, it’s this simple:

they can choose to educate their as/where they please, so long as they will not interfere where anyone else’s get their education. Alas, this is not what they said during the run, and not what they will do. It was no different with the Clintons.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 11:59 PM

Well as long as Obama doesn’t ask his daughters about nuclear weapons policy, let them go where they want. The more hypocrisy the better (hypocrisy is the bow that vice pays to virtue).

eaglewingz08 on November 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2008 at 11:59 PM

Agreed. But then you can’t be critical about where they send their kids, now can you?

Chewy the Lab on November 22, 2008 at 12:07 AM

And, I really truly think your arguement is–in itself–hypocritical. Jeez, listen to yourself. Dang it, there’s plenty to argue with the Obamanation on merit. We don’t have to stoop to criticizing the way they chose to educate their kids.

Chewy the Lab on November 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM

This is frustrating, I am listening to myself, you’re either not listening to me or I’m not articulating why this is a legitimate criticism. I’m not criticizing the choice the Obamas made regarding the education of their children. They are free to spend their money anyway they choose to do so. What I am criticizing is the fact that they have exercised a choice that they are working hard to deny to others.

AZfederalist on November 22, 2008 at 12:09 AM

AZfederalist on November 22, 2008 at 12:09 AM

+1 Can’t get any clearer than this. Any further comment will be ignored. Density is indignant.

Schadenfreude on November 22, 2008 at 12:17 AM

This is frustrating, I am listening to myself, you’re either not listening to me or I’m not articulating why this is a legitimate criticism.

AZfederalist on November 22, 2008 at 12:09 AM

I cannot see how any man of any discernible degree of perception can fail to understand your point unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind and keep them shut by force.

semloh on November 22, 2008 at 12:18 AM

The One’s girls going to private schools?

Imagine President Bush sending his daughters to Cuba for health care, cigars and better liquor.

Forget the last two. The One means one leader, many peasants.

IlikedAUH2O on November 22, 2008 at 12:19 AM

I don’t care where Obama sends his brats…as long as I don’t have to hear about them. I’m happy.

HornetSting on November 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM

I am picking up many subtle indications that the Berg case is bothering The One. Why hasn’t he answered? December 1st is the deadline.

IlikedAUH2O on November 22, 2008 at 12:21 AM

IlikedAUH2O on November 22, 2008 at 12:21 AM

The even better case is in CA, the Keyes case. The judges won’t be able to ignore that one.

Schadenfreude on November 22, 2008 at 12:27 AM

HornetSting on November 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM

Wishful thinking.

Just wait til they get the dog.

Dubn8tr on November 22, 2008 at 12:27 AM

HornetSting on November 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Wishful thinking.

Just wait til they get the dog.

Dubn8tr on November 22, 2008 at 12:27 AM

Don’t EVEN get me started on that one. The last big dog case I heard about was Michael Vick….is it racist to correlate the two?

HornetSting on November 22, 2008 at 12:29 AM

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