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By: House GOP caucus still likes their pork « Top Daily Digest Reading

House GOP caucus still likes their pork « Top Daily Digest Reading — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:25:27 +0000

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By: EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Deep Thoughts With Kevin

EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Deep Thoughts With Kevin — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:29:40 +0000

[...] I’m not sure what it’s gonna take for the GOP to realize that conservatives hate pork, but clearly the results of 2006 and 2008 haven’t gotten through. [...]

By: F3 Coalition - [Faith. Family. Freedom.] » Blog Archive » Podcast: Obama’s Gun Grabbing Attorney General

Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:44:55 +0000

[...] Doomed to repeat it: House GOP rejects earmark moratorium. (Hat Tip: Hot Air.) [...]

By: Obama’s Gun Grabbing Attorney General

Obama’s Gun Grabbing Attorney General — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:42:15 +0000

[...] Doomed to repeat it: House GOP rejects earmark moratorium. (Hat Tip: Hot Air.) [...]

By: gwallensky

gwallensky — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:18:51 +0000

Ed, please grow a new pair. I happen to agree with Obama on this: if pork is the base's biggest quandary, then we have a major problem with priorities. Granted, this is a setback, but if pork is really a 'symbolic' issue as opposed to a pressing one, what has more impact: abolishing pork to start the next two years of leadership, or abolishing pork as the cherry-on-top after two years of strong leadership?

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:46:37 +0000

“Though this can be true, a cadidate can also win an election touting fiscal responsibility. If an Incumbent turns away pork or at least limits it to a minimum, he can run as one of the more fiscually responsible congressman in the house.”

Sounds great in theory but do you have any evidence that a Congressman has ever actively voted against millions of dollars of federal spending that was to go to their district and got re-elected?

By: TMK

TMK — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:54:36 +0000

The Voice is right. He was exactly what the pundits keep telling us that the GOP needs to be: fiscally conservative

Yeah, like when McCain supported the bank bailout. Oh, wait…

By: JM Hanes

JM Hanes — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:19:02 +0000

Ed:

“It’s hypocrisy. That’s why it’s a much bigger problem for supposedly small-government Republicans.”

Well, it doesn’t seem to be a problem for the guys who voted against the moratorium, since they obviously got re-elected. There’s a lesson in that too, which you seem to be ignoring.

“Supposedly” is probably the key word here. I’m on the smaller government side of the fence, but unless you can produce some stats confirming that Republicans were voted out of office during the last two elections because they expanded federal government, I’m not sure how you support the unlearned lessons argument,

By: concernedsenior

concernedsenior — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:14:31 +0000

RushBaby
Thank you for your imput, I will wait till after the holidays but that gives me some good places to start. Its either that or join the Minutemen at the border. I sure don’t know what the answers are it seems like most Reps. in power are just complacent or scared. NEED SOMEONE WHO WILL BUCK THE SYSTEM.

By: Amazing Grace

Amazing Grace — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:53:06 +0000

All this purging business sounds good, but how do you do it? Some of these so called congressman have no one running against them, and when they do the party supports the one in office. Remember Arlene Specter. And how many members, despite their faults, got reelected? Everyone wants to change the mess up there but it never gets done. What we need is a group of men and women who take a pledge to run on the same platform nationwide. We need to try and run a conservative in every single statewide election. Sure it will be tough, but it’s the only way we’re going to make headway. We also have to get out for these people. Here in the 24th district of NY, we ran a very good candidate against Arcurri, a Dem. toady, but Hanna had little national party support until it looked like he might win. He lost by the slimmest margin of any race in the US. Oh, maybe it’s all pie in the sky anyway. Even the best of them change when they get there so maybe, rethinking, we should all just stand fast and refuse to pay the bills. How many of us can they throw in jail at one time? A million, two. You go first and if it works, I’ll follow.

By: Daemonocracy

Daemonocracy — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:04:05 +0000

Uhm, pork is what keeps you in office, not what gets you thrown out. Murtha is the porkiest politician in the world and his district loves him for it. Everyone hates everyone else’s pork but they love it when a politician brings some of that federal spending to their home district.

Pork never got anyone voted out of Congressional office.

Though this can be true, a cadidate can also win an election touting fiscal responsibility. If an Incumbent turns away pork or at least limits it to a minimum, he can run as one of the more fiscually responsible congressman in the house. In these tough economic times full of unpopular bailouts and runaway spending, that message is just as powerful as using pork as a bribe for votes.

By: Daemonocracy

Daemonocracy — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:59:54 +0000

Solution is simple, ignore the Democrats, let them govern with their majority and target the RINOS in our own party. Cantor has to get aggressive here, as does Boehner. Outside voices such as Gingrich and RNC hopeful Michael Steele need to join them. Name names, kick ass. The only way to reform the Democrats and ultimately washington, is to first reform our own party from within.

By: Ganryu

Ganryu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:22:58 +0000

Its unfortunate to say, but Tiahart is supposed to be my congressman. I havent’t always agreed with him, however I voted to keep him based on his no votes on the bailout. Guess I’m going to have to rethink that.

Time for another strongly worded letter and a phone call.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:54:05 +0000

“How many elections do they have to lose”

Uhm, pork is what keeps you in office, not what gets you thrown out. Murtha is the porkiest politician in the world and his district loves him for it. Everyone hates everyone else’s pork but they love it when a politician brings some of that federal spending to their home district.

Pork never got anyone voted out of Congressional office.

By: RushBaby

RushBaby — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:39:24 +0000

Any advice?

concernedsenior on November 21, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Get with your local elected officials, particularly R’s who just won their elections or reelections. The help they needed, or need, is fresh in their minds.

These people also know tons of other people, so they are a natural starting place to get in the local network.

By: jacobnyc

jacobnyc — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:24:16 +0000

Does FRUSTRATION come with the package when you’re a Conservative, or is it just me? I feel like smacking each one of these morons with a spike paddle. I think we might have to vote Democrat so we can boot out every non-Conservative and reelect Conservatives to take charge.

By: rhodeymark

rhodeymark — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:19:09 +0000

Sigh… That whole building needs a good purging.

BadgerHawk on November 21, 2008 at 8:47 AM
A good plunger

An enema…

By: Sugarbuzz

Sugarbuzz — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:08:20 +0000

Romeo13 on November 21, 2008 at 12:34 PM

People have those preconceptions for a reason, because Repubs/conservatives have been utterly dismal in getting the message out there that some of us care, and are not selfish pigs that choose to prioritize our personal comfort level over the quality of the environment.

By: House GOP Caucus: Pork, It’s Still What’s For Dinner « Jane Q. Republican

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:39:38 +0000

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By: entagor

entagor — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:24:06 +0000

Sigh… That whole building needs a good purging.

BadgerHawk on November 21, 2008 at 8:47 AM

A good plunger

By: Romeo13

Romeo13 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:12:31 +0000

sayabule1 on November 21, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Did you bother reading their platform?

2nd amendment right out the window as Localities can regulate guns anyway they want.

Fed Gov to give State Govs Fed taxes back??? Uh, why not just lower the Fed tax burden in the first place, and let states decide on their tax rate?

What they call “common sense” is nothing more than a mishmash of single issue positions, with no underlieing philosophy.

By: sabbott

sabbott — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:51:01 +0000

Every one remember this the next time Rush, Laura, and Hannity are hyperventelating about how you MUST vote for the GOP! Remember that they are as bad as the rats!

By: sayabule1

sayabule1 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:45:22 +0000

What we need is the Modern Whig Party. Check it out: http://www.modernwhig.org/index.html#action

By: Badger40

Badger40 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:44:28 +0000

McCain might have fought the earmarks, but he was a RINO in other ways.
I used to think Newt was OK, but now that he’s conceded some on APGW, he’s toast in my mind.
Who’s left? When will a leader with some balls stand up & fight for what’s right? Give it to the voters straight up?
Nobody does that. They all double-speak. They’re all full of $hit.
So we try & try & keep trying.
Libertarian is sounding better all the time.

By: The Opinionator

The Opinionator — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:40:33 +0000

You are blaming the wrong people. WE want our pork. WE as a people demand things from our representatives. WE want OUR roads, bridges, museums, farmers, crops, schools etc, etc, etc, to be funded. WE are all represented by some type of lobbyist. WE hate congress as a whole but reelect the majority of our individual congress members.

WE are to blame. Members of congress are responding to our requests. They are judged, in most cases, by how much they bring home. Ask Elizabeth Dole here in NC. She was rated as the 93rd most effective Senator, in part because she did not bring enough $$$$$ home. And that cost her the election.