Comments on: Congress to Big Three: Call us when you’ve done your homework

By: sethstorm

sethstorm — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:33:30 +0000

I am amazed that GM, Ford and Chrysler is the sum total of the auto industry in many people’s minds. There are several other auto manufacturers that build and sell lots of cars in the US. Aren’t they part of the auto industry, or are they the bastard step-child of Detroit?

They’re transplants that can’t combine any bit of reliability with the affordable muscle of Detroit designs.

This whole sordid affair almost wants to make me never buy an American car again…

It’s also a reason to buy one even out of spite – to cancel you out. Besides, at least with a Cadillac, Chevy, or any of the Ford 6/8cyl makes, I don’t have to drop $40,000 to get jaw-dropping performance for less than a transplant.

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By: SPIFF1669

SPIFF1669 — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:25:29 +0000

Nothing new here, same democrats, same plan using our money to secure their jobs/votes.

By: Amendment X

Amendment X — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:29:31 +0000

Let me see if I've got this straight: Nancy Pelosi is asking the Big 3 to send her a business plan that Congress will review and approve? Is that correct? Congress... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Congress knowing a workable business plan...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! OK, come on now, what's the real story?

By: ic1redeye

ic1redeye — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:40:12 +0000

Congress needs to tell the Big 3 and the UAW one thing, ” No reforms, No money.”
The UAW needs to be disbanded and all Big 3 salaries etc should be scaled back to the same as what the foreign car makers pay their employees. Then if things don’t turn around for them maybe we might help them out, —-or not!

By: byteshredder

byteshredder — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:56:52 +0000

Congress to Big Three: Call us when you’ve done your homework

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, millions of sub-primers, Detroit Big Three, United Auto Workers Union…all being subsidized by taxpayer dollars for democrat votes. Am I missing something here???

By: There's My Two Cents

There's My Two Cents — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:29:59 +0000

Quick Big 3 Bailout Update…

From Hot Air:

Despite a couple of reported agreements on bailout packages for Detroit’s three automakers, Congress has sent their CEOs with homework assignments instead….

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By: Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:36:19 +0000

Well, Reid and Pelosi are right to make the automakers come back with a proposal, but they should have included the union heads too.

One of the key factors causing the problem is the large legacy benefit cost to retirees and ex-union employees, a second is the union’s total compensation and a third is the ridiculuous union work rules None of these can be resolved without the union.

Last, I doubt whether Reid, Pelosi and the Democrats will require concessions from the unions, so anything the automakers come up with, will likely not resolve the problem long term.

By: LifeTrek

LifeTrek — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:33:54 +0000

I could back it if Congress voided the union and upper management contracts in the process — but unfortunately it will probably end up being a ‘Union Bailout’ that gives the big 3 money in a ‘jobs for the sake of jobs’ work program. The new WPA making cars people don’t want.
David

By: UltimateBob

UltimateBob — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:33:14 +0000

[sorry, accidentally submitted comment before it was complete]

WOW. I actually agree with Nancy Pelosi on something. Never thought I would see that day.

sharrukin on November 21, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Not so fast…. She never actuially said anything about being a GOOD plan, or a FEASIBLE plan. Just any old plan will do.

Pelosi (or pretty much any Democrat) wouldn’t know a good plan if it jumped up and bit her on the nose.

By: UltimateBob

UltimateBob — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:31:03 +0000

WOW. I actually agree with Nancy Pelosi on something. Never thought I would see that day.

sharrukin on November 21, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Not so fast…. She never actuially said anything about being a GOOD plan, or a FEASIBLE

By: droofus

droofus — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:15:14 +0000

Congress should give em just enough money for them to post some big ‘FOR SALE’ signs at their various plants…

By: ex-Democrat

ex-Democrat — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:34:39 +0000

If the UAW was truly interested in saving the auto industry, they could loan the auto industry the $25B as an investment for the union retirement fund.

I wonder if our onion-less Repubes will bring up this idea?

I think it’s great….let’s roll.

By: ex-Democrat

ex-Democrat — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:32:57 +0000

I can remember the Carter years and the auto industry crying …. the union workers made more money on average than most anyone and I can remember telling people: “hey, auto workers, YOU go buy your crappy cars with your big salaries.”

Not much different today. Auto manufacturers in right-to-work states are doing fine. Michigan is a cluster eff, socialist, sharia-bound, sh*tehole.

Stay away from MY money and clean up your own marxist mess.

Let’s roll.

By: L.N. Smithee

L.N. Smithee — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:03:50 +0000

PS – who is this douchenozzle in the trackback ping? A UAW piglet? Eat corn off the ground, piglet!

rhodeymark on November 21, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Wow, your trackbacker has a problem. I hope he can get help.

Sinner on November 21, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Whoa! “Ed ‘The Tool’ Morrissey”? Since when did they start calling you that?

Andrew Sullivan must be so jealous!

By: Richard Romano

Richard Romano — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:01:27 +0000

In a news conference in Detroit, Ron Gettelfinger, president of the United Auto Workers, said the Big Three CEOs should consider resigning if that would help win backing for a bailout.

What a cowardly crap-weasel!! **** you UAW!!

By: belad

belad — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:57:29 +0000

I am amazed that GM, Ford and Chrysler is the sum total of the auto industry in many people's minds. There are several other auto manufacturers that build and sell lots of cars in the US. Aren't they part of the auto industry, or are they the bastard step-child of Detroit? If the UAW was truly interested in saving the auto industry, they could loan the auto industry the $25B as an investment for the union retirement fund. That way the auto industry and the UAW would have ownership in making the auto industry a success. When everyone has a dog in the hunt, then its always in everyone's best interest to make sure that the end results are successfully achieved.

By: Sinner

Sinner — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:50:30 +0000

Wow, your trackbacker has a problem. I hope he can get help.

By: try again later

try again later — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:42:19 +0000

Congressional efforts to rescue Detroit’s auto makers?

Perhaps they should rescue Detroit first?

By: rhodeymark

rhodeymark — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:28:55 +0000

PS – who is this douchenozzle in the trackback ping? A UAW piglet? Eat corn off the ground, piglet!

By: rhodeymark

rhodeymark — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:26:38 +0000

It was refreshing to see the interviews on the Nightly News with the Hyundai workers down in Alabama. They were UAW free and happy as clams. Business is good, they are compensated fairly, and they don’t want anyone messing with their good thing. I have a feeling Card Check would have a problem down there.

By: Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:22:32 +0000

Not just a business plan, Pelosi (well, actually the general public) should demand a detailed cost-accounting on the previous 25 billions they just spent.