Quote of the day
posted at 10:40 pm on November 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
“‘When it gets rough out there, a lot of business leaders get out of the car and say, ‘We’re OK with minor reform.’ I’m challenging you today, we’re going to have to do big, serious things,’ Rahm Emanuel said, speaking to The Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council, a conference convened to elicit corporate opinion on the challenges facing the new president…
He said business leaders should help find solutions to the middle-class squeeze or face a revolt. ‘We need a strategy as a country to make sure they have an opportunity to move up that ladder,’ he said…
He stressed that the new administration would ‘throw long and deep,’ taking advantage of the economic crisis to push wholesale changes in health care, taxes, financial re-regulation and energy. ‘The American people in two successive elections have voted for change, and change cannot be allowed to die on the doorsteps of Washington,’ Mr. Emanuel said.”
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Eff ewe shortie.
ex-Democrat on November 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I smell overreach in the air already.
ddrintn on November 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Why do we have to be nice about this man? My psychic antennae tell me he’s a wankstain……..I fear for the future :(
Fortunata on November 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Strap yourselves in boys and girls, its gonna be a loooong eight to ten years.
sharrukin on November 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Perhaps he doesn’t realize that too much change could bring revolution also.
Ya feel lucky, punk? Well, do ya?
OneEyedJack on November 19, 2008 at 10:47 PM
It’s 1976!!
Theworldisnotenough on November 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Akshully, we need Obama to throw long and deep…so he can expose himself and have millions of blinders fall off around the country.
hippie_chucker on November 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Oh this what Nancy Pelosi meant when she the Dems were going to govern from the center.
terryannonline on November 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Great. So the administration starts out with a Hail Mary pass. Nothing from this administration will surprise me. I will remember the 2008-2012 period as the Twilight Zone administration.
portlandon on November 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I think they just can’t help themselves.
“Go with it private sector, you know you want it… get ready, here it comes.”
Theworldisnotenough on November 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Bailouts, amnesty, gun control, global warming, high taxes, universal health care, etc. We are in for a very tough and long fight. The operators in congress and the senate better be prepared for incoming calls to the kazoo.
jencab on November 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Keep talking like this and the stock market will make 1929 look like a cakewalk.
Starlink on November 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
like Larry Sinclair’s throat. Limousine liberals!
chunderroad on November 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
The thing is we know that those who voted for change apparently didn’t even know exactly who or what they were voting for. I think change was a legend in their own mind.
INC on November 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Why do the libs always believe that voting out irresponsible repubs automatically means wholesale acceptance of every whackjob democrat plan ever devised?
Guess what, Rahm, 2000 and 2004 also saw two consecutive elections where the people “voted for change”, yet you and the rest of the left cried foul.
The libs ALWAYS make this mistake, this time it will cost us plenty before they are done.
Bend over, here it comes.
Bishop on November 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Go@@am# mandatory sentencing!
Beto Ochoa on November 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
LOL, I hate laughing about this, but these guys are totally going to drop the ball.
El_Terrible on November 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM
If I hear one more person say “wait ’til he’s been in office a while before you judge him, I’m gonna smack that individual right in the mouth.
If by now, you cannot discern HOW Obama will govern from his past actions,and statements, then ya gotta have the sentience of a fence post.
irongrampa on November 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Oh yeah, they’re going to fix the economy with big serious things like
This ranks right up there with controlling fuel prices by checking our tire pressure.
Dee2008 on November 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I hope they don’t drop the ball. I honestly don’t.
terryannonline on November 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
How long will it be before pundits like Jon Meacham of Newsweek stop their ridiculous predictions that Barry plans to govern from the center?
Buy Danish on November 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Fixed.
Dee2008 on November 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Is this why Mark Cuban is mad when he saw that BHO has no entreprenuers on his economic advisory team???
danjrussell on November 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I presume he means 2006 and 2008. Well, in 2006 the change was Pelosi and Reid and the majority of the American people do not exactly seem overjoyed about that change. Will they be with Obama change? We shall see, but not likely if he follows the Pelosi/Reid model.
MB4 on November 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
As long as they keep giving handouts to the lazy, they will win. That is the country we live in today. There are more of them then there are of us. The only thing that could change that would be, well, something undemocratic, and the folks on our side are too nice to try it.
AdrianG on November 19, 2008 at 11:05 PM
um, than.
AdrianG on November 19, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Hold me closer, tiny dancer…
D2Boston on November 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Maybe that’s the plan. By January 20, 2009 it will be so low that it can only go up from there.
MB4 on November 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
He evades answering about Union cards.
That leaves the only specific thing mentioned comes in the form of a “major economic stimulus” Dee mentioned above and she’s right.
That’s exactly what I thought of when I read that.
INC on November 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
…………….. and yet, it alread has.
Seven Percent Solution on November 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
How long before the Tribune editors who endorsed the first Democrat in Tribune history realize that it was one Democrat too many?
Jaibones on November 19, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Here’s the Obama quote–it was worst than I remembered:
I’m so tired of the politicians going after the global warming boondoggle without trying to do some serious adult thinking about some real energy solutions now.
INC on November 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Let them go for it. If they don’t they could possibly keep the Congress in 2 years. Worse yet the Presidency in 4 years. Let them take as much rope as they need to hang themselves.
watson007 on November 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM
There is no middle class in a socialist system.
Only the corrupt elites and the welfare class to cook their food and wash their cars.
Baxter Greene on November 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM
There will be no long and deep. These guys are typical politicians and won’t do anything major the 1st 4 years. The only thing they want is power and the trappings of power.
That’s not to say that they might not try to slip a thing or two past just to test the waters but people like this are typically cowards. They don’t do things on principle, they do things for themselves.
Vince on November 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Change died Mr.Emanuel, the second Obama chose you to be in his administration. Change was buried when he continued to bring in the past rehacks from Clinton’s administration.
canditaylor68 on November 19, 2008 at 11:25 PM
If you were talking about Hillary, I’d agree. I see Barry as a dreamer first, and a politician second. Time will tell.
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
taking advantage of the economic crisis to push wholesale changes in health care, taxes, financial re-regulation and energy.
What, you fools couldn’t get these things passed without the economy in crisis? You need fear to move people to you?
If only the plan consisted of more than hope and change.
Bishop on November 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
The things Emanuel lists would provide neither a major economic stimulus nor are they a comprehensive energy program. They sound like something a city council (am I allowed to say community organizer) would come up with.
INC on November 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
No, I was being cynical, as usual. I meant all politicians. We have no leaders on either side. The only one willing to face ridicule and damnation for all sides was, and I stress was, President Bush.
Vince on November 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM
This is not the socialist agenda you are looking for.
csdeven on November 19, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Yep. Love him, or hate him, George knows he puts his pants on one leg at a time.
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Here is a strategy for you…get out of he way.
F15Mech on November 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I believe you’re right MB4. They already created the crisis, why wouldn’t they just keep going? A few more well placed speeches like Chucky Schumer’s should bring down the house.
R D on November 19, 2008 at 11:36 PM
And just what are you going to say when it all falls apart?
“It’s all George Bush’s fault”?
What is striking is how smug and clever these people sound right now.
Come January, we’ll see how they face reality when it comes up and kicks ‘em right in the nuts.
GarandFan on November 19, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Quote from Union boy Rahm:
Really??
I am the middle class and I have watched Rahm’s Union democratic activist arm gut the car,airline,steel,and many other industries, destroying the backbone of this country and crippling America’s working class.
I wonder if Rahm found the time to explain how this:
Allows America to stay competitive in the world market and produce jobs here at home.Their words have certainly not matched the facts on the ground.
Baxter Greene on November 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
In nine years my income went from roughly 18k to over 130k.
All without any college degree or any government handout.
I am climbing the “ladder” and it is really was not that difficult.
F15Mech on November 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM
What Obama has failed to understand in his utopic visions of Stalinist America is that no country in history has ever been overrun peacefully by marxists that had a second amendment. Nor has a country been overrun that had a deeply engrained understanding of the ultimate freedom like the US, ever. We will have a revolution and this country will not go down as easily as his fruadulent election went down.
katy on November 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM
It truly is learn as you go at the expense of the American people.
Hope, change & some jumping jacks!
christene on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Why are so many people blaming the Democrats for doing what they were voted into office to do?
It’s not like everyone doesn’t know that the Democrats are socialists. The problem isn’t with them. We should be asking why Americans have chosen socialism over individual freedom.
JohnJ on November 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM
The problem with our economy is too much debt: individual, corporate, government and unfunded entitlements.
Their solution to this problem is more debt by the government, by individuals buying more of what they can’t pay for and by ignoring or adding to our unfunded liabilities.
For those who want to go “long and deep”, may I suggest… lottery tickets. Who else is feeling lucky?
Laurence on November 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Obama Hears a Giant Sucking Sound
His legacy is spent before he gets his hands on it.
Mr. Obama’s one deeply false note during the campaign was his harping on “deregulation” as if that were the source of current troubles. His real problem is the crack-up of the world FDR built.
Fannie Mae was a New Deal creation, subsidizing the securitization of mortgage debt. FDR’s successors piled on the subsidies for housing debt and incentives directed at low-income borrowers. Kaboom.
Mr. Obama must be looking around and beginning to suspect he will be pouring his political capital, along with considerable taxpayer capital, down bottomless holes for the next four years. He won’t be building a legacy as the new FDR, but cleaning up after the last one.
Mr. Obama envisioned himself extending FDR’s work. He may end up finishing George Bush’s.
MB4 on November 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Good point.
I have been thinking that they will get away with blaming Bush for the next 8 months to a year(with help from the press) and then take credit when the inevitable up swing starts to happen.(I think it will take 2.5 years for a real upswing to start to happen).
Rahm is constantly talking about “using a crises” to push
their agenda through(like they did Iraq).
This will blow up in their face if they don’t get things turned around and we also face serious international crises(like another terrorist attack on our soil or major problem from Iran/Pakistan/Somalia/Russia)while they are whinnying on about “Global Warming”,raising the hell out of taxes,spending like mad,and getting busted for their corruption and payouts on K street.
Baxter Greene on November 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Oh, Man. This is gona’ hurt.
Troy Rasmussen on November 19, 2008 at 11:56 PM
And then what? Another election where Obama redux gets elected by promising welfare socialist policies?
A JohnJ alluded to, the corruption of the electorate is the real elephant in the room.
sharrukin on November 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Riiiiiight. Good luck with that.
juanito on November 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Translation:
Short the Equity Index Contracts of the Stock Market as soon as possible….
Take solace that you can make 100% plus returns over the next 12 months…
Obama is a short sellers dream….
Carson Wales
Hole in the Wall Gang
CarsonWales on November 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
The ignorance of the electorate is a close second.
Mojave Mark on November 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Over reach anyone? Please?
Dritanian on November 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Sounds pretty much how Chicago,NY,San Francisco,LA,and DC have been run by the democrats for decades.
They have high crime,terrible schools,high taxes,and are basically broke.
But remember,they are the “intelligent upper graduate elites”.
But Obama is already laying his plans to counter the fact that he can’t back up all his “hope and change” bull$hit:
Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory
Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters’ expectations on concerns their hopes of ‘change’ are unrealistic, a senior aide says
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/
Friday, 2008-31-305
By Tim Reid, The Times of London
Baxter Greene on November 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM
B-HO already threw long and deep to get elected. A Hail Mary rarely works twice.
R D on November 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM
I wonder how many Obama voters will tolerate higher gas prices, discomfort from lower thermostats, less choice in health care, less choice in transportation, and probably other things.
I see some here talking about overreach, but Maybe Rahm and Obama know the people in this country better than we on the right do. With the media on his side, and since Obama is an effective communicator, enough people may be persuaded by fear – fear of global warming, fear of losing their jobs, homes, etc. to just go along with all this.
I’ve been saying for the past week that Obama has to do or say something to inspire confidence so the market will stop dropping. I finally understand, now, that he wants the market to keep dropping. The more economic distress, the better for them in implementing their policies.
We certainly know from the “how obama won” post how ignorant all these people are. I’m old enough to have been around when Jimmy Carter was defeated by Reagan, and it seems like we have an entirely different electorate from then – less informed, more dependent, more demanding of entitlements.
chris999 on November 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Unfortunately for Obama, he is throwing deep to the likes of Reid, Pelosi, Daschiel, Murtha, ad absurdum.
A Party of dropsies.
profitsbeard on November 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
I’m with you on the old enough part. But just wait ’til the “youngsters” can’t afford the next great i-whatever, or bluetooth-ray-pod thingy. Sh!t will hit the fan then!
R D on November 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
I am prepared to throw up long and deep.
Captain America on November 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
The ones who say that, say that because, unlike most of us, they actually have no idea at all what he is going to do.
They look at it all as a sort of surprise, like opening a present on Christmas morning.
If they did a bit of homework, they might “judge” as well. They don’t know they’re getting ashes for Christmas.
Alana on November 20, 2008 at 12:45 AM
The Good news from this is it’ll only last 4 years.
Obama = Carter on steroids
Romney = Reagan (not even close yet, but he will symbolize a return to free market principles and conservative gov.)
joncoltonis on November 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM
So here’s an interesting question.
Obama promised a tax cut, a load of effective new government services, and free health care to everyone, and the media backed him on it. This seems to have swayed a large number of independents.
No matter how hard the media tries, I don’t they will be able to dissuade these gullible individuals that the tax increases, incompetent/useless government services, and lower quality health care they get will be what they were promised.
I see a lot of speculation this will lead to a people finally seeing the real Obama, but what effect will this have on peoples’ view of the media? Especially the “Palin said she can see Russia from her house” people who bought the media narrative hook, line, and sinker?
18-1 on November 20, 2008 at 1:07 AM
In fairness, we don’t know exactly how Obama will govern. He could be the second coming of any of Carter, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, or Hugo Chavez.
Of course, it says a lot that Carter V2.0 is about the best we can hope for.
18-1 on November 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Ol’ Rahm looks a lot like the Michael Corleone from Godfather III. I’m not sure if that is significant or not.
john1schn on November 20, 2008 at 1:11 AM
LOL…they say during a full moon you can still see Fredo fishing on Lake Tahoe.
Limerick on November 20, 2008 at 1:30 AM
“The Godfather” is Obama’s favorite movie.
Alana on November 20, 2008 at 1:35 AM
Govmint through threats and intimidation. n Reminds me of a Monty Python skit.
Act 1
You’ve … you’ve got a nice business here, friend.
It would be a shame if anything should happen to it..
Know what I mean,
Obama and I have got a little proposition for you.
I mean, It wouldn’t be good for business would it, not to comply?
We want to look after you.
Act II
This is change we can count on to be the Soviet Union 2.0
Kini on November 20, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Go to youtube search for Peter Schiff. Frightening and enlightening.
Theworldisnotenough on November 20, 2008 at 2:09 AM
Newspaper and Dead Fish.
Kini on November 20, 2008 at 2:11 AM
Why did they choose socialism
1. Our k-mba education system has been invaded by leftists. Look at the ‘distinguished educator’ William Ayers. At a quaker school our son WAS attending, the history teacher had the room full of Hillary and Obama literature. I called him over to ask if there wasn’t some guy named Jack or John or something also running. He gave a half-A$$ed blubebring ‘answer’ that it was because there was no contest on the R side.. So I said “Great, you have a Marxist on one side of the room and a hard core Socialist on the other and you couln’t have ONE poster for the liberal?
2. The news media was totally in the tank for obama and not enough people take the time to check out the alternative media
3. Election fraud.. Acorn.. it’s nuts isn’t it
4. Election Fraud – Hundreds of millions in illegal donations to obama…
5. Fear and intimidation – Obmamalaywers threatening stations that dared to air NRA ads, The St. Louis Thugocracy threatening people who dissed THE ONE.
6. Not turning Palin Loose. When someone can get on a roll, stand back and let them rock. Too bad there were too many euneuchs on the McCain team.
So, in short, I don’t think that most of the american voters knew exactly what they were voting in. They went in and pulled the big D or O. They fell for the hopey-changey BS. Look at the Zeigler info coming out.
bullseye on November 20, 2008 at 2:14 AM
How they gonna do this without an economy to sustain it? I’m no math genius, as my father was fond of telling me, but even I can figure this out.
TinMan13 on November 20, 2008 at 2:16 AM
Suddenly Emanuel grabbed his steak knife and, as those who were there remember it, shouted out the name of another enemy, lifted the knife, then brought it down with full force into the table.
”Dead!” he screamed.
The group immediately joined in the cathartic release: ”Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!”
Michael Corleone is just about right!
sharrukin on November 20, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Browncoatone on November 20, 2008 at 2:28 AM
“We need a strategy…”.
Emanuel sounds like Obama. “I’m clueless, think of something, and then I’ll tell you if it’s a good idea except that I’ll pretend it’s mine because you know, I wrote this letter…”
Seriously guys, 2010, start getting out there for 2010.
saint on November 20, 2008 at 2:34 AM
wtf is that idiot babbling about?
Metro on November 20, 2008 at 3:00 AM
CP on November 20, 2008 at 3:23 AM
Al Capone.
Jim Treacher on November 20, 2008 at 3:25 AM
Freaking scary and unfortunately,starting to look true if we let it.
Baxter Greene on November 20, 2008 at 3:28 AM
Too late. It’s already begun
Kini on November 20, 2008 at 3:57 AM
I don’t know if I would call 2006 a change election. It was more of a Republicans sitting home and pouting election. And look at what we got, Pelosi and Reid and the most unpopular Congress in history. I doubt that putting more of the same in there in 2008 will change that. The truth is most of the people who have been up for reelection have been Republicans. I wonder what will happen when it is the Democrats’ turn to protect a lot of seats.
I don’t know a lot of people who voted for Obama around here, but the ones I know that voted for him tend to fall in two categories: life long Democrat and someone looking for a check in the mail because Obama promised them money. If that check does not materialize, those votes will not be there come 2008.
I don’t know who you blame for the current crisis. Its roots go way back and it is global in nature. All you have to do is look at countries like Iceland and Belgium and Britain to know that this is not all about us.
I think that there was too many zero down loans everywhere, but I also think that high energy prices put additional stress on economies and might have been the final straw. With gas prices down, there might be some hope…however, I would not be surprised if Obama did not try to pass a gas tax hike. That would kill all that warm and glowy feeling out there.
Terrye on November 20, 2008 at 4:34 AM
You always say that…
FloatingRock on November 20, 2008 at 4:42 AM
If they go too far.
boomer on November 20, 2008 at 5:28 AM
Idiots. All of them.
SueM on November 20, 2008 at 5:29 AM
Sure. Now that all those Washington insiders and lobbyists are gone – Pritzker, Daschle, Axelrod, Emmanuel, etc. etc. – big change is in the air.
And it smells like foxes in the henhouse.
PaddyJ on November 20, 2008 at 5:38 AM
they have no idea what there plans are, but they telling the business community you are with us or against us.
rob verdi on November 20, 2008 at 6:12 AM
their, not there
rob verdi on November 20, 2008 at 6:12 AM
…and then he drew out his steak knife and stabbed it in the air toward the audience, exclaiming, “dead, dead, dead, you’re all dead if you don’t get out of the car and reeform!”
S on November 20, 2008 at 6:45 AM
If you aren’t ready to deal with bad news, just watch Crissy Matthews for your news in 2009, he’ll make sure everything is reported as sunshine and rainbows during the Obama admin.
Hog Wild on November 20, 2008 at 7:37 AM
The revolution is coming.
ctmom on November 20, 2008 at 7:38 AM
Like several others here, I envisioned Tiny Dancer stabbing the table with a steak knife while he spoke before this group. (Yes, B2Boston, Tiny Dancer is my nickname for thet ambitious little pr#ck, too.)
What is most ironic is what the Obamao supporters and the rest of the “progressives” harped on throughout the Bush presidency: that Bush and the Republicans played a “politics of fear” to maintain power. Project much, Dems?
The economic crisis was bound to occur because the Central Planning policies of the New Deal and the Great Society were recipes for failure.
Former Czech President Vaclev Havel warned that climate change legislation and diktats are just another means of eroding freedom and ceding control to the State. The pontifications and policy postions of the Dems confirm that seizure of political power will come through their control of energy legislation and executive orders.
How many economic sectors does the Obamao triumvirate (the presidency and both houses of Congress) of power intend to seize?
The middle class, like the government, has lived beyond its means for decades. The Dems’ answer to the debt, personal and national, is to limit economic freedom and facing the consequences of profligate living.
The best solution is to divest our government of agencies that bleed the taxpayer into dependence and poverty.
onlineanalyst on November 20, 2008 at 7:41 AM
“CHANGE” my hairy butt!?!
BHO has brought in all the OLD farts from the past for Carter / Clinton part 2!!! No one in the MSM, or really even in so called Conservative blogs are “calling the Messiah out on his BLATENT lies to the fools in America that voted for “CHANGE”! Why can’t people just start mentioning all the SAME OLD NAMES and ask THE ONE about his cliams, his lies of “CHANGE”? Because we have no one as the Conservative voice that has the “nads” to hammer this point home… We should be repeating “THIS IS NOT CHANGE” over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over…. on every news show, every interview, every post, every blog, every artical, EVERYWHERE!!! Fools fell for the BS “CHANGE” moto because it was message from day 1 with the Messiah, are we TOO STUPID to learn? Repeating something at every turn sticks with the electorate. We need them to start asking WHAT CHANGE all around the Nation…
We are too stupid, as a party, to learn how to play this game. We could be already building the “seeds” of doubt about this empty suit RIGHT NOW… Otherwise, we lose!
Mark Garnett on November 20, 2008 at 7:42 AM
AMEN, my fellow blogger. We must at the first sign of “overreach” is march to DC and start our protest!
Mercy4Me on November 20, 2008 at 7:42 AM
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