Perino: Conditions in Iraq now amount to victory
posted at 9:29 pm on November 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Or, to be more precise, “the victory that we’ve had so far.” Much depends on those last two words, needless to say. I appreciate the spirit of the blogburst Zombie’s organizing for Saturday, and lord knows he/she has plenty of credible milblogger opinion to support the argument, but five years of having to wear the “Mission Accomplished” albatross around our necks is enough to make me blanch forevermore at declarations of victory, especially when Petraeus himself has vowed never to use the word. How about, in lieu of Victory in Iraq Day, we celebrate Tremendous Progress in Iraq that Almost No One Thought Possible, Least of All Our Modern-Day Lincoln Day instead?
Speaking of Lincoln, the relentlessly anti-war McClatchy is dumping all over the new security pact but read this WaPo story from yesterday to see how much easier it makes things for The One. He gets his timetable after all — with Bush’s name on the dotted line and, just maybe, Bush’s defense secretary to see it through. Click the image to watch.
Update: Did I neglect to mention that the pact still needs to be approved by the Iraqi parliament? Gulp.
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Good for America. Good for Obama. Bad for Republicans.
D0WNT0WN on November 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Time to drag out the “Mission Accomplished” banner yet?
benny shakar on November 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM
So, Messiah Obama won the war that the evil Booooosh started.
stonemeister on November 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM
How about….
Who’s Next Day
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Afghanistan will now be our sole source of war porn.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on November 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM
The Bush “Mission Accomplished” banner is better than the Obama White Flag.
RBMN on November 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM
O All-Peaceful Bestower of Peace, when does Perino get to the part about how Bush spent 700 billion dollars and 4000 lives so that the Iraqis could write shari’a law into their constitution and create a defacto Islamic state?
Is that the “victory” of which you speak?
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM
… we’ve been able to have tremendous successes on the security front, both because of the bravery of our soldiers and the work that they’ve done …
Cool, now let’s get more troops to Afghanistan and pray that Barry doesn’t screw it up.
19 Nov – V.I. Day!
Tony737 on November 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Oh and zombie is a grrl.
We are old frenemies.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Uh. Huh. The reason that we have progress in Iraq is because of Bush and the SURGE.
If we would have listened to the messiah’s plan, we would be under attack in our own country, with the government having to take over our financial and uh, well, we would have fallen into socialism…uh, Nevermind.
The reason we are winning in Iraq is because of our soldiers, not because of that asshat Obama.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Good. Now the rest of the Middle East can follow Iraq’s beacon of hope and freedom. The OPEC oil cartel is broken. We have an ally which will make peace with Israel and hopefully invade Iran and Syria without us having to do it.
lexhamfox on November 19, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Better than dragging out your rainbow flag, benny.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Yeah, that’s the fun thing about freedom and democracy. People are free to do it their own way, and tell us to shove it.
RBMN on November 19, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I would hit Dana Perino so hard that whoever could pull me out would be named King of England.
Blacksheep on November 19, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Bad, blacksheep, bad.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM
AP: did you mention that the Iraqis who do not approve of the pact, want the US military to stay?
Vince on November 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM
I would hit Dana Perino so hard that whoever could pull me out would be named King of England. – Blacksheep
HAHA! Please put your Excaliber back in the sheath! You could put somebody’s eye out with that thing!
Tony737 on November 19, 2008 at 9:44 PM
RBMN
I am sure that is a great comfort to the families of the four thousand.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:44 PM
There was NO draft, Ms. Sheehan.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:45 PM
You’re right. It is.
RBMN on November 19, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Its a good day, I will say this for McCain, with warts and all and when the chips were down he used his clout to bring about victory in Iraq. He was the one of the most influential Commanders and Chief who never held the job.
rob verdi on November 19, 2008 at 9:46 PM
4,200 dead American soldiers.
Roughly 300 “coalition” deaths.
Victory? Hardly!
dk on November 19, 2008 at 9:46 PM
***spits on sidewalk****
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Well let’s get ready for four years of this……….
Monday morning quarterback…………….., twenty-twenty hindsight…………….., argument based on being a political hack……………….., rooting for the defeat of the United States and our Coalition troops at every turn…………………., handing propaganda gold to our enemies……………………., and can anyone tell me what the hell he was talking about?
…….. and don’t forget, now he is your Commander in Cheif.
………………… Happy?
Seven Percent Solution on November 19, 2008 at 9:49 PM
I think I would’ve said blench, though I like the allusion to Coleridge.
Tzetzes on November 19, 2008 at 9:49 PM
And amazingly, a democratic Islamic state in Iraq is what would have happened eventually without our meddling.
Alas, the Grand Misadventure of the Manifest Destiny of Judeoxian Democracy in MENA turns out to be an Epic Fail, and the debt GW incurred with the chicoms, charged onto our childrens VISA cards.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Read “America’s Victories: Why the U.S. Wins Wars and Will Win the War on Terror” by Larry Schweikart.
“America’s armed services are under attack. From college campuses to the floor of the Senate, the Iraq war is portrayed as a quagmire, the Army is described as “broken,” and our men and women in uniform are maligned as torturers. Hollywood keeps producing anti-war films, and the media celebrates liberal anti-military activists such as Cindy Sheehan.
“These critics fail to understand the real nature of the American military. By seeing everything through the distorted lens of Vietnam — a war shrouded in harmful myths —they have lost sight of our country’s real military record, and the factors that have enabled us to win with remarkable consistency, in situations even more dire than Iraq.
“In America’s Victories, Professor Larry Schweikart restores the truth about our amazing military heritage. Just as he did in his acclaimed previous book, A Patriot’s History of the United States, Professor Schweikart cuts through the distortions passed along by academia and the media.”
Mr_Magoo on November 19, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Make that 4,201 (and 4,062 since “Mission Accomplished).
Oh… and 30,000 wounded.
benny shakar on November 19, 2008 at 9:50 PM
You forgot “apologizing for the evils of the United States to the world citizens”.
I say we take our food, money, troops and go home. Let the world see a “Year Without the Americans Saving the Day.”
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Wanna see liberal heads explode? Please President Bush, declare victory in Iraq now!!!!!
gringo69 on November 19, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Except for Cindy She-Hag, probably so….How do you think the families of the 58 Thousand felt after libtards like you helped lose South Vietnam? Or don’t you and the Dhimmicrats take credit for one of your biggest successes, to date?
BTW What’s it like, having your interests line up perfectly with Al-Quaeda’s?
dmh0667 on November 19, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Hey benny, Keith Olbermann called. He wants his boytoy back.
HornetSting on November 19, 2008 at 9:52 PM
In fact, it is.
That’s why the 2004 election was so important.
mylegsareswollen on November 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM
A democratic Islamic state just…. like….. Our Wonderful Friend Pakistan is a democratic Islamic state.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Wow, you really ran the gamut with that rant. Well done. Please shut up now.
Allahpundit…how dare you bring up a positive subject? Didn’t you know that would bring out the trolls?
jimmy the notable on November 19, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I am sure that is a great comfort to the families of the four thousand.
matoko_chan on November 19, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Make that 4,201 (and 4,062 since “Mission Accomplished).
Oh… and 30,000 wounded.
benny shakar on November 19, 2008 at 9:50 PM
you are both total bottom feeders in the worst sense.
Your callous disregard is noted.
Ever consider how many lives may have been spared without your parties reckless criticisms that many times fanned the fires of muslim rage?
I hope you get hit by cars…
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 9:55 PM
50,000,000 people died in WWII.
jimmy the notable on November 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Not for you, it’s not.
Jim Treacher on November 19, 2008 at 10:00 PM
If it wasn’t for people like Murtha, Kennedy, Reid, Polosi,Durbin, Emmanuel, Hoyer, benny shakar, matoko_chan, (whatever that is) and all of the other scum who used the Iraq war and the sacrifices of our men and women warriors to divide this nation so that they could achieve power, we would have had a lot less deaths and the conflict would have ended a lot sooner.
That blood is on democrat hands.
Vince on November 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Declare victory before Obama can surrender and rob the U.S. Military of a righteous victory. Only 4 provinces left to hand over, will take two years to retrograde anyways.
Yep, that should send the hippies over the deep end. I like it!
Hog Wild on November 19, 2008 at 10:08 PM
matoko_chan was probably a beneficiary of the Saddam/UN oil for food ass raping.
Heh, the invasion of Iraq raped the UN’s major buzz.
mylegsareswollen on November 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM
JimmyT, each responsive whine from you serves as my Mission Accomplished banner.
benny shakar on November 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM
The war ended before the anti-war folks could end it. Poor dears, whatever will they do now?
Christien on November 19, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Treach,
+
Christien on November 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
According to the left, I mean the progressives, I mean the democrats, I mean the commies, I mean the matako’s of the world or whatever they call themselves; WWII never happened (at least not the atrocities).
They never do.
nolapol on November 19, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Off topic but.. anyone else see the assault weapons ban reauthorization bill
Alden Pyle on November 19, 2008 at 10:14 PM
November 22=VICTORY IN IRAQ DAY!
Congrats to The U.S.Armed Forces,the Coalition Forces, and to the New Iraqi Forces. Job well done and God Bless you all.
Make this call very loudly across the U.S. So that all will know this victory occured before Obama’s administration took power.
canditaylor68 on November 19, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Of course, sweetie.
Jim Treacher on November 19, 2008 at 10:15 PM
BTW it’s authoed by Republicans! WTF?
Sponsor:
Rep. Mark Kirk [R-IL]
Cosponsors [as of 2008-11-07]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Ferguson [R-NJ]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Alden Pyle on November 19, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Lie and pretend they were the ones who ended it.
Its the same thing the Global Warming zealots will do when the current cooling trend continues into an ice age. They’ll say there efforts were successful and should become permanent.
jimmy the notable on November 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Day late, buck short.
The haplessness of this administration in communicating critical information on Iraq (and the GWOT in general) to the American people has been of full sorry display for the entire second term.
No excuses, period.
Bruno Strozek on November 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
The difference between matako_chan and those 4000…..
Take a Stand
Custer’s Soldiers
***spits on sidewalk***
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Jim Treacher, a real man…
benny shaker, a wimp, or any of a group of weakly interacting elementary particles…or an HA hemorrhoid…
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM
jimmy,
I like it!
Christien on November 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM
And had the Sissy Mary liberals running the US in the 90’s actually fought back against the Islamists instead of putting up walls between our various intelligence agencies, scorning the military, and out-and-out just trying to get laid, perhaps 3000+ Americans would not have died in Sept. 2001. Take a hike you little cowards.
Patrick S on November 19, 2008 at 10:21 PM
………………. I like it!
Seven Percent Solution on November 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Patrick S, reality is that any of the 4,201 would have defended these two scums, and their ilk.
Limerick, you keep spitting!
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Sheesh Matoko, your vile comments at other blogs really makes you the definition of troll. Your contempt for conservatism and especially Sarah Palin is dispicable. Love the comments you made about Powell endorsing Obama, that he is the intellectual side of the conservative movement. Were you saying the same thing while he was at the UN making the case for the Iraq war?
And you reference Salon and TNR on your comments as “proof”. Please, take your faux intellectualism, back to the Atlantic with Andrew Sullivan and write again about how you know that Palin lost us the election.
You know nothing about our party, you know nothing about Palin and you know nothing except your own divine prowess of the election of “The One”.
Disaster awaits the next 4 years, and I will say it now, Im not a racist so dont try.
broker1 on November 19, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Day late, buck short.
The haplessness of this administration in communicating critical information on Iraq (and the GWOT in general) to the American people has been of full sorry display for the entire second term.
No excuses, period.
Bruno Strozek on November 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
some truth to that, but consider the lefts dispersal of erroneous and at times out right lies of the efforts involved.
The commies last thing they want to see is any middle east reform.
Not only will the liberty of the nation of Iraq be a threat to the totalitarians of the middle east because the economic disparity between the two will educate all.
The introduction of law will make it so much harder to grift from these places.
The left are nothing more than ” global ghetto builders”.
They derive power from such by riling the masses when the leadership ” hah ” dont get their way.
The commonality is that the left has no real welfare in mind for anybody but themselves.
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Congrats to the Coalition of the Willing and the Iraqis who recognized the opportunity afforded them!
dmann on November 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM
I feel such gratitude to our troops, to General Petraeus and to President Bush. We will never know the darkness that they’ve seen, but the light is shining at the end of the tunnel. I pray that history will be kind to them all.
conservative_in_texas on November 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM
True, but…
It takes no space cadet to understand this is a setup. Shortly after the Obama inauguration, or maybe even before, the Iraq war will be re-opened, mainly by Iranian aggression. What’s uncertain is the strength of Obama’s response.
The Iraq war has been won, but the victory won’t be sustained if we decline to stabilize the peace for at least the next several years. I want to think Obama will act decisively and responsively, but it’s too soon even to guess.
petefrt on November 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Ill add, though it will never be said out loud,
obambi will be very happy that he has the assets in place to thwart or detect or most importantly, respond to terrorist activity.
Thank you GWB
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Thanks
and thanks for the positive words.
nolapol on November 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
The sheep don’t deserve other than to be exploited. Anything short of that s/b immoral. Their intelligent and rich overlords have moved their money out of this country already. Fools deserve to be punished.
Schadenfreude on November 19, 2008 at 10:33 PM
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Dennis: Oh, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Just saying
F15Mech on November 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM
The next big battle for Iraq will not being tempted by big government douche bags.
Its so tempting thinking that one person may have all the answers, but it just doesnt work out that way.
There is nothing more valuable to a nation than its human capital.
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Once again- to those parroting the ‘mission accomplished’ meme- that was referring to the US armed forces in general, and that ship in particular- seizing control away from Saddam. This is a standard exclamation of success in the US military. Bush’s speech on the deck of that ship clearly stated that the effort in Iraq was not complete and that there was much more work to do. So stop referring to that event as something it wasn’t.
Boomslang on November 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
That’s nothing compared to the Iraqis who starved to death during the Clinton sanctions. Shame on America for deposing a tyrant and stepping on OPEC’s toes!
chunderroad on November 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Don’t waste your time feeding the troll
F15Mech on November 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
……… Spot on!
And yet the trolls, or anyone forget, the MSM and leftist Democrats have used this war for “political fodder” since day one, without any regard for the millions freed from ruthless totalitarian rule, rape rooms, and mass graves to our fallen and still fighting brave soldiers.
How many intelligence weapons were “leaked” to the press, how many speeches by Democrats that our soldiers were Nazis to the war was lost, how many recruiting tools and propaganda did they actually provide our enemy to draw out this war?
All you have to look at apart from the 24/7 onslaught on President Bush is how they went after “Joe the Plumber”, but especially Gov. Sarah Palin. Mix that with the love fest for Mr. Barak Obama, President Elect, the Office of… and we come to following conclusion.
How, with the MSM being totally in the bag for the Democrats can we actually know what is or has been going on in the War Against Terror, current campaign, Iraq?
It’s because they stopped reporting the dead count, day in day out, every ten minutes, drumming down the American resolve, as we started to turn the corner and actually begin down the road to Victory.
They want to change the story line to Mr. Obama, President Elect, the Office of…… but those of us that have supported the troops, the mission, and know the dangers in this world that still exist will never let this story fade away.
………………. NEVER!
Victory in Iraq?…………. day by day, one FREE thought at a time.
Seven Percent Solution on November 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
The left has you rolled on the Mission Accomplished banner. The mission, which was major combat operations, was over. Saddam’s army was defeated. The last five years has been the war against the Sunni/Shia militias, AQI and Iran.
Just like we won the war in Germany and then stayed for the Cold War afterwords. Two separate wars, and we won them both.
thuljunior on November 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
boomslang: I didn’t know that, just like many Americans still think that Sarah Palin said: “I can see Russia from my house.” Boy the GOP are sure lousy at optics and comeback.
technopeasant on November 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
My sentiments exactly!!! However, I have a bad feeling that history will not be kind to any of the three that you mentioned. Conservative_in_Colorado
danjrussell on November 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Ignore those butt-sniffing trolls and keep your eyes on the prize.
Dana Perino is absolute magic. Just…wow.
Can you believe that America is taking the drop from this jewel down to grinning nitwit Baghdad Bob Gibbs? What a disaster.
Jaibones on November 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
You need to realize that useful idiots like Benny prefer lies to truth.
Jamson64 on November 19, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Nah….who gets better press, Caesar or Cicero? Anthony or Brutus? Cromwell or Charles? History likes to call weaklings weaklings. That’s what makes weaklings like metakeo_crap so damn loud.
Limerick on November 19, 2008 at 10:58 PM
After 9/11 President Bush understood that the cause was the absolute disregard for decency and law fostered by the tyrants of the middle east.
Catching obl in itself would have changed nothing in the dynamics, thats why the commies were OK with only the Afghanistan part.
And thats why president Bush invaded Iraq.
He didnt want revenge, he wanted real change and that will only come with proactive measures that rid the middle east and elsewhere from tyranny.
He could have started with syria or iran, but iraq da the strongest case.
What is occurring now is that a coubtry named Iraq, with hard fought liberty and free of international sanctions will now dismantle the status quo of the middle east.
Economic disparities will be amplified and exacercerbate due to the reckless and innefficient management, and thats being kind, of the despots.
The only way we can fail is by cowardice in the face of evil.
There can be no more common ground to fight on than right and wrong and despite what the left opines, we have been right.
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I get the first part of your statement, but the above part I don’t get?
danjrussell on November 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM
That’s been a given since the 2002 midterms. I’ve given up on these guys.
If “the victory that we’ve had so far” is as good as we can get from the Bushies I’ll take it.
But that’s damned old comfort.
Bruno Strozek on November 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM
OK, so President Bush comes right out and says that he intends to start the process of middle east reformation of its criminal leadership.
How would the commies have played that hand?
You must consider how treacherous some in positions of power are.
And yes, if your intent is to hack out the legs of our leadership during a time of war you are treacherous.
Sonosam on November 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
I hope the Iraqi people will be ok. I hope that Bush declares Victory soon. I can see a few vile and despicable trolls in here. Is ok, the sheep will pay. We will know who they are. We will make them miserable. Because they are miserable. They hate themselves for the cowards that they are. They couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. They don’t know the truth. They only know their own lies. I can’t wait to hear them whence when The Dictator f***s up. And when he doesn’t keep his promises to the sheep. He lied to get their stupidity. As I can see by what they wrote. They are just plain stupid.
sheebe on November 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Jim Treacher on November 19, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Jim…
Perfect, just perfect.
swami on November 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I think General P deserves a few streets and avenues to bear his name.
But knowing libs, they’ll probably be in Iraq.
swami on November 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Sure, it’s a calculated risk- but once in awhile I’ll feed 10 trolls on the outside chance of educating one…
Boomslang on November 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Bush wins war before Obama can surrender
Left declares something and sucks pink thumb.
profitsbeard on November 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Benny (or any other liberals walking by), who is responsible for the deaths of these brave volunteer American soldiers? Bush or terrorists?
faraway on November 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
For Benny the Butt-Boy and his friends:
I wonder why we didn’t have Nightline keeping a running total of murders in U.S. cities with Democrat mayors for the last 8 years? Chicago alone is ahead of the entire country of Iraq year-to-date.
That would be the Chicago of Rich Squeaky Daley, Rahm the Ballerina Emanuel, Jesse The Lesser Jackson Jr., and Barry The One Obambi.
Jaibones on November 20, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Anyone?
Jaibones on November 20, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Boomslang on November 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
technopeasant on November 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
“To some, it said, well, ‘Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over,’ when I didn’t think that. It conveyed the wrong message.”
-GWB, 11.12.2008
“They are our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska”
-Klondike Barbie, 9.2008
My friends, please keep listening to Rush, Fox, and of course your fellow bloggers, you’ve become real political insiders.
benny shakar on November 20, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Please tell us who you listen to, honey.
Jim Treacher on November 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM
But the real enemy on our streets is Winchester, Colt, Sig, Mossberg, Remington, HK, Savage, Bushmaster, and the evil gun shop owners who supply all the criminals with their weapons. Thank goodness they will all soon be in Chap 13 and we can get back to planting daisies in inner city parks and turn all those guns into basketball hoops.
Limerick on November 20, 2008 at 12:25 AM
benny, I shouldnt be able to tell from the text ,
but I cant help to have this vision of a peter lorry type character.
Not taking anything from Mr Lorry, he was acting
Sonosam on November 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
thanks benny- you made my point for me- and I don’t listen to Rush, or Hannity- just the network that both Hillary and Obama said covered the prez election the most fairly.
Boomslang on November 20, 2008 at 12:50 AM
If you think GWB finally admitting and apologizing for his boneheaded move somehow makes your “point,” you’re worse off than I had feared. Not that I’m surprised.
benny shakar on November 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM
I don’t understand the people that go crazy over the mission accomplished sign. The mission of removing the brutal regime and defeating the standing military WAS accomplished. The commander in chief was going to pat the soldiers who risked their lives on the back…for heaven’s sake, what did the detractors expect? No banner? Maybe a banner that said, “good job on that tiny task, much more ahead you lousy bstards.” ?? Or maybe “mission sorta accomplished partly halfway!” ??
People neglect the fact that the military victory in so quickly removing the despot and his regime and the military defending that regime was brilliant as far as military campaigns go.
I just never understood the outrage over the banner.
TheBlueSite on November 20, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Yeah, it’s called Military Vision
BDU-33 on November 20, 2008 at 1:21 AM
“They are our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska”
-Klondike Barbie, 9.2008″
I’m sorry, but does ANY rational person really think Palin was trying to use this as a claim of foreign policy experience?
Besides- this quote is cut off. It continues with “–from an island in Alaska.” Now, she didn’t name the island, and she didn’t seem to know what the island’s name was. So, we can assume she’s probably never been to the island. So, we can sssume that she’s not touting this as foreign policy experience by saying that humans, (but not her personally) can see Russia from an island in Alaska, the name of which she doesn’t even know.
This is the entire part of that interview:
Now, this probably didn’t come out as well as she wanted, but from that statement alone, her attackers think that this is somehow indicates she believes this counts as foreign policy experience by being in close proximity to Russia? They’re not even talking about foreign policy experience…so those who claim she was touting this as such experience are spouting nonsense.
TheBlueSite on November 20, 2008 at 1:25 AM
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